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Fitzpatrick.
He fills a big need at corner or free safety. Read an SI story on him, the Saban loves the kid. He's a perfectionist and almost like another coach on the field.
The only thing is he plays for Alabama. They usually have the most talent overall. He could easily be another Trent Richardson and no one would know or see it. I'd take Saquon Barkley. Our offence really needs this guy to improve our running game. This would allow Gordon and whomever we pick up at WR along with our TEs, to get open (quickly).
The only thing is he plays for Alabama. They usually have the most talent overall. He could easily be another Trent Richardson and no one would know or see it. I'd take Saquon Barkley. Our offence really needs this guy to improve our running game. This would allow Gordon and whomever we pick up at WR along with our TEs, to get open (quickly).
Is Fitzpatrick a CB or a Safety?
Could he be our Ed Reed/Troy Polamalu......or Darrell Revis......or could he be Dee Milliner?
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The only thing is he plays for Alabama. They usually have the most talent overall. He could easily be another Trent Richardson and no one would know or see it. I'd take Saquon Barkley. Our offence really needs this guy to improve our running game. This would allow Gordon and whomever we pick up at WR along with our TEs, to get open (quickly).
Is Fitzpatrick a CB or a Safety?
Could he be our Ed Reed/Troy Polamalu......or Darrell Revis......or could he be Dee Milliner?
Is Fitzpatrick a CB or a Safety?
Could he be our Ed Reed/Troy Polamalu......or Darrell Revis......or could he be Dee Milliner?
Justin Gilbert ?
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Is Fitzpatrick a CB or a Safety?
Could he be our Ed Reed/Troy Polamalu......or Darrell Revis......or could he be Dee Milliner?
Justin Gilbert ?
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The only thing is he plays for Alabama. They usually have the most talent overall. He could easily be another Trent Richardson and no one would know or see it. I'd take Saquon Barkley. Our offence really needs this guy to improve our running game. This would allow Gordon and whomever we pick up at WR along with our TEs, to get open (quickly).
Is Fitzpatrick a CB or a Safety?
Could he be our Ed Reed/Troy Polamalu......or Darrell Revis......or could he be Dee Milliner?
Is Fitzpatrick a CB or a Safety?
Could he be our Ed Reed/Troy Polamalu......or Darrell Revis......or could he be Dee Milliner?
He's actually both Gip. His primary position is safety, but he's supposedly fast enough to play corner. The combine 40 will tell us....
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Near impossible to pass on Chubb for a few reasons.
There is no one like or near him in the draft at his position
Browns would have something other team's only dream of: 2 huge bookends at DE that would scare any team's QB and OC..
There are a plethora of solid Ss and CBs that can be had in R2 that could be starters.
Same with RBs and WRs.
If we have gotten our qb in FA prior to draft, we could grab Chubb at 1 and then take either Barkley or Fitz at 4, one of them would be there for sure.
Having to use 1 on a QB will cost us a sure all pro starter at some position. It sure would be ideal not to have to, but great to have the opportunity if we do.
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Listening to a interview snippet today with Mikiah on NFL radio. Mikiah says "Am a true Safety at either position. I learned to play CB by watching tape of some of the greats". He thanked Sabin for trusting him at both positions..Clearly this dude loves the game. Not seeing a Rubin Foster background guy here..
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Listening to a interview snippet today with Mikiah on NFL radio. Mikiah says "Am a true Safety at either position. I learned to play CB by watching tape of some of the greats". He thanked Sabin for trusting him at both positions..Clearly this dude loves the game. Not seeing a Rubin Foster background guy here..
Listening to a interview snippet today with Mikiah on NFL radio. Mikiah says "Am a true Safety at either position. I learned to play CB by watching tape of some of the greats". He thanked Sabin for trusting him at both positions..Clearly this dude loves the game. Not seeing a Rubin Foster background guy here..
After his playing career is over I can see this guy being a coach some day. Saban trusts him that much out there. The kid from FSU may be a tad better, but his leadership out there is a major factor to take him at #4.
If we end up with McCarron, then take Cubb, Fitzgerad and move up into round 1 for Sony Michel.
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Listening to a interview snippet today with Mikiah on NFL radio. Mikiah says "Am a true Safety at either position. I learned to play CB by watching tape of some of the greats". He thanked Sabin for trusting him at both positions..Clearly this dude loves the game. Not seeing a Rubin Foster background guy here..
After his playing career is over I can see this guy being a coach some day. Saban trusts him that much out there. The kid from FSU may be a tad better, but his leadership out there is a major factor to take him at #4.
If we end up with McCarron, then take Cubb, Fitzgerad and move up into round 1 for Sony Michel.
After his playing career is over I can see this guy being a coach some day. Saban trusts him that much out there. The kid from FSU may be a tad better, but his leadership out there is a major factor to take him at #4.
If we end up with McCarron, then take Cubb, Fitzgerad and move up into round 1 for Sony Michel.
You want us to end up with the #1 and #4 overall picks and skip taking QB AGAIN because A.J. McCarron is on the roster?
It feels like some of you want the Browns to never win.
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After his playing career is over I can see this guy being a coach some day. Saban trusts him that much out there. The kid from FSU may be a tad better, but his leadership out there is a major factor to take him at #4.
If we end up with McCarron, then take Cubb, Fitzgerad and move up into round 1 for Sony Michel.
You want us to end up with the #1 and #4 overall picks and skip taking QB AGAIN because A.J. McCarron is on the roster?
It feels like some of you want the Browns to never win.
You want us to end up with the #1 and #4 overall picks and skip taking QB AGAIN because A.J. McCarron is on the roster?
It feels like some of you want the Browns to never win.
Darnold, Rosen, Mayfield, Allen ................. we know Mayfield is Manziel but which ones become Quinn and Weeden when we draft them ?
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After his playing career is over I can see this guy being a coach some day. Saban trusts him that much out there. The kid from FSU may be a tad better, but his leadership out there is a major factor to take him at #4.
If we end up with McCarron, then take Cubb, Fitzgerad and move up into round 1 for Sony Michel.
You want us to end up with the #1 and #4 overall picks and skip taking QB AGAIN because A.J. McCarron is on the roster?
It feels like some of you want the Browns to never win.
You want us to end up with the #1 and #4 overall picks and skip taking QB AGAIN because A.J. McCarron is on the roster?
It feels like some of you want the Browns to never win.
If we are taking McCarron from Cincy to play for the Browns then the only reason to do so is that you believe he really is the QB we need, not some rookie draftee. Otherwise it's a wasted deal. Let's just see how it plays out.
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I believe that, no matter WHO we sign, we will draft a QB #1 this year. Obviously, none of the QBs available in FA (save Brees, who will stay in NO) have proven to be "Franchise QBs" or they wouldn't be allowed to hit FA. One of these draft eligible guys may be a Franchise QB once developed . We've passed on those types before & I don't think we will pass on them again in 2018.
Mike
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I believe that, no matter WHO we sign, we will draft a QB #1 this year. Obviously, none of the QBs available in FA (save Brees, who will stay in NO) have proven to be "Franchise QBs" or they wouldn't be allowed to hit FA. One of these draft eligible guys may be a Franchise QB once developed . We've passed on those types before & I don't think we will pass on them again in 2018.
Mike
I believe that, no matter WHO we sign, we will draft a QB #1 this year. Obviously, none of the QBs available in FA (save Brees, who will stay in NO) have proven to be "Franchise QBs" or they wouldn't be allowed to hit FA. One of these draft eligible guys may be a Franchise QB once developed . We've passed on those types before & I don't think we will pass on them again in 2018.
Mike
Cousins is the only one who I think would prevent us from drafting a QB number 1 . The team will have too much invested in him to have then a #1 overall pick sitting behind him for 4 years. The team has too many holes for that .
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I believe that, no matter WHO we sign, we will draft a QB #1 this year. Obviously, none of the QBs available in FA (save Brees, who will stay in NO) have proven to be "Franchise QBs" or they wouldn't be allowed to hit FA. One of these draft eligible guys may be a Franchise QB once developed . We've passed on those types before & I don't think we will pass on them again in 2018.
Mike
Cousins is the only one who I think would prevent us from drafting a QB number 1 . The team will have too much invested in him to have then a #1 overall pick sitting behind him for 4 years. The team has too many holes for that .
Cousins is the only one who I think would prevent us from drafting a QB number 1 . The team will have too much invested in him to have then a #1 overall pick sitting behind him for 4 years. The team has too many holes for that .
I agree Mark, but I don't consider Cousins a Franchise QB & feel he's overpriced (I don't believe he'll come here). Of course, IF we sign him, I'll support the decision & hope for the best.
Mike
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Cousins is the only one who I think would prevent us from drafting a QB number 1 . The team will have too much invested in him to have then a #1 overall pick sitting behind him for 4 years. The team has too many holes for that .
I agree Mark, but I don't consider Cousins a Franchise QB & feel he's overpriced (I don't believe he'll come here). Of course, IF we sign him, I'll support the decision & hope for the best.
Mike
I agree Mark, but I don't consider Cousins a Franchise QB & feel he's overpriced (I don't believe he'll come here). Of course, IF we sign him, I'll support the decision & hope for the best.
Mike
Hes going to be way overpriced...but that's the way the market works. He's still better than anything we've had since Bernie so I would support the decision as well. It wouldn't be my first choice of options though.
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I agree Mark, but I don't consider Cousins a Franchise QB & feel he's overpriced (I don't believe he'll come here). Of course, IF we sign him, I'll support the decision & hope for the best.
Mike
Hes going to be way overpriced...but that's the way the market works. He's still better than anything we've had since Bernie so I would support the decision as well. It wouldn't be my first choice of options though.
Hes going to be way overpriced...but that's the way the market works. He's still better than anything we've had since Bernie so I would support the decision as well. It wouldn't be my first choice of options though.
It seems we view it the same way. At least we have knowledgeable PROS in the FO making these decisions.
Mike
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Geeezzz this would be the time for the BROWNS to get two studs in R1 but if they drop out/lose out of the $150M Capt Kirk insanity derby I'd go DB, Fitzpatrick.
If they would have a second R1 pick it would be real interesting, maybe 5 or more favorite choices from this board alone, Barkley? Chubb? Other?
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I agree with others in that we're drafting a QB early unless we get Cousins, and come on....that crap ain't happening people. We'll grab a young QB, sign a veteran, and may the best man win. And don't forget about Kizer (stop laughing).
So like the original poster asked, what's next after QB? The #4 obviously greatly depends on what we do in free agency. If we somehow manage to get a free safety AND starting corner in free agency, I think that opens the door to drafting Chubb...if he's still available. What's the very best way to help your secondary? By getting to the QB WITHOUT blitzing and forcing the QB to throw it early. It's what Jacksonville and Minnesota established, and you saw how it worked for them. Chubb is listed as an outside rusher, and that's fine. Myles Garrett is quite adept at rushing from the inside position, and having depth at a premium position is never a bad thing. Of course, we can only DO THIS is we strike gold in free agency and land a corner and safety, but it can happen.
More likely, we'll draft a corner or safety at 4, and right now it's Fitzpatrick. The ONLY concern I've heard is that he's a "tweener". He's a cross between a free safety and a corner, and that somewhat scares a few people. But not many. Fitzpatrick is more likely someone who can play safety AND come up for press coverage, making him invaluable. He's the "coach on the field" type, and if we stay put at 4, I have a VERY difficult time believing we'll pass on him.
Since it's the draft and we're the Browns, people are terrified we're going to trade down, including me. We have the 1st and 4th picks, which is near unheard of draft capital. We also have a new GM. Now, do any of you guys REALLY believe our GM will be able to withstand the immense temptation to NOT trade down and show everyone just how smart he is? Because I don't. It's far too boring to just pick your QB at 1 and then pick again at 4. The most appealing trade partners are the teams who desperately need a QB, and the only one I'd partner with would be the Jets at 6. That means whoever we wanted at 4 would likely be available because we already have our QB (hopefully) at pick 1. This move is also popular because the Jets would leapfrog the Broncos at 5, who could also be needing a QB if neither they or the Jets got Cousins.
Regardless, if we were to get our top rated QB AND the top rated DB in the draft, it's very difficult not to be ecstatic after day 1. Furthermore, don't be surprised if we trade back into the first round like we did last year because 1st round picks are eligible for a 5th year on their contracts, and that's extremely appealing if you're a team that needs a running back in a draft full of tantalizing RB talent. Many fans are adamant about drafting Saquon Barkley, and while he's a supremely talented player, the Browns can't afford to go offense-offense in the first round...not with so many other backs available down the road. Check out this write up on Minkah Fitzpatrick and enjoy.
http://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2018mfitzpatrick.php
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I agree with others in that we're drafting a QB early unless we get Cousins, and come on....that crap ain't happening people. We'll grab a young QB, sign a veteran, and may the best man win. And don't forget about Kizer (stop laughing).
So like the original poster asked, what's next after QB? The #4 obviously greatly depends on what we do in free agency. If we somehow manage to get a free safety AND starting corner in free agency, I think that opens the door to drafting Chubb...if he's still available. What's the very best way to help your secondary? By getting to the QB WITHOUT blitzing and forcing the QB to throw it early. It's what Jacksonville and Minnesota established, and you saw how it worked for them. Chubb is listed as an outside rusher, and that's fine. Myles Garrett is quite adept at rushing from the inside position, and having depth at a premium position is never a bad thing. Of course, we can only DO THIS is we strike gold in free agency and land a corner and safety, but it can happen.
More likely, we'll draft a corner or safety at 4, and right now it's Fitzpatrick. The ONLY concern I've heard is that he's a "tweener". He's a cross between a free safety and a corner, and that somewhat scares a few people. But not many. Fitzpatrick is more likely someone who can play safety AND come up for press coverage, making him invaluable. He's the "coach on the field" type, and if we stay put at 4, I have a VERY difficult time believing we'll pass on him.
Since it's the draft and we're the Browns, people are terrified we're going to trade down, including me. We have the 1st and 4th picks, which is near unheard of draft capital. We also have a new GM. Now, do any of you guys REALLY believe our GM will be able to withstand the immense temptation to NOT trade down and show everyone just how smart he is? Because I don't. It's far too boring to just pick your QB at 1 and then pick again at 4. The most appealing trade partners are the teams who desperately need a QB, and the only one I'd partner with would be the Jets at 6. That means whoever we wanted at 4 would likely be available because we already have our QB (hopefully) at pick 1. This move is also popular because the Jets would leapfrog the Broncos at 5, who could also be needing a QB if neither they or the Jets got Cousins.
Regardless, if we were to get our top rated QB AND the top rated DB in the draft, it's very difficult not to be ecstatic after day 1. Furthermore, don't be surprised if we trade back into the first round like we did last year because 1st round picks are eligible for a 5th year on their contracts, and that's extremely appealing if you're a team that needs a running back in a draft full of tantalizing RB talent. Many fans are adamant about drafting Saquon Barkley, and while he's a supremely talented player, the Browns can't afford to go offense-offense in the first round...not with so many other backs available down the road. Check out this write up on Minkah Fitzpatrick and enjoy.
http://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2018mfitzpatrick.php
I agree with others in that we're drafting a QB early unless we get Cousins, and come on....that crap ain't happening people. We'll grab a young QB, sign a veteran, and may the best man win. And don't forget about Kizer (stop laughing)......
Yes and as former CBS newscaster Walter Cronkite used to say "and that's the way it is".
Will the BROWNS actually get into the most over-hyped, over-rated and potentially overpriced sports person EVER derby? Well its getting "curiouser and curiouser " I must say.
And Kizer is pretty much the BROWNS' -PLAN A- in 2018 unless one of these rookie savior quarterbacks succeed when getting thrown into the fire next.
GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND! -
In a perfect world we sign a great QB and take two elite non QBs
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In a perfect world we sign a great QB and take two elite non QBs
Not a perfect world looks like two top R1 and R2 picks -unless- and not out of the possibility of trading the R2 picks and more for three top R1 picks.
Just speculation on February 24 nearly two freakin months before the draft.
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