Trade Kizer and release Gordon ?
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https://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap000000917082/article/wideout-josh-gordon-under-browns-control-as-erfa media--everybody must be stoned..read second to last paragraph from bottom.
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https://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap000000917082/article/wideout-josh-gordon-under-browns-control-as-erfa media--everybody must be stoned..read second to last paragraph from bottom.
https://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap000000917082/article/wideout-josh-gordon-under-browns-control-as-erfa media--everybody must be stoned..read second to last paragraph from bottom.
"Due to Gordon's suspensions for violation of the league's substance-abuse policy, he's not slated to reach unrestricted free agency until after the 2020 season -- doubling the customary four-year waiting period for second-round draft picks."
Very interesting.
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Well assuming that he hasn't taken much of a beating the last few years he should be in good condition for quite a while, at least through 2020 right?
WSS
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Hey guys, first post and life long Raider fan here. I applaud the Browns for sticking with Gordon and the way he is humbly dedicated to the team. I hope he retires a Brown.
I wanted to pop in and offer my input to you guys and to be honest you are not that far of. Some things I would consider:
Sign McCarron and by all means keep Kizer, but stash as the #2 and let him settle down from 2017.
Miami just tagged Landry. Make a serious run at him ( you got cap, use it now $15 - $16 mil per annum), send Miami your #4 this year and next yrs first.You have all those second rnd picks to make up for the loss of #4. Landry on one side, Gordon on the other (drool)
Sign Gordon, I believe he would sign for a reasonable amount
Draft Barkley #1
Good luck on the season
Hey guys, first post and life long Raider fan here. I applaud the Browns for sticking with Gordon and the way he is humbly dedicated to the team. I hope he retires a Brown.
I wanted to pop in and offer my input to you guys and to be honest you are not that far of. Some things I would consider:
Sign McCarron and by all means keep Kizer, but stash as the #2 and let him settle down from 2017.
Miami just tagged Landry. Make a serious run at him ( you got cap, use it now $15 - $16 mil per annum), send Miami your #4 this year and next yrs first.You have all those second rnd picks to make up for the loss of #4. Landry on one side, Gordon on the other (drool)
Sign Gordon, I believe he would sign for a reasonable amount
Draft Barkley #1
Good luck on the season
Yeah or none of that. Especially the Landry part.
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So if I'm the Browns, I offer Josh something semi-decent, with a lot of *** on it. Plenty of incentives based on # of catches, TDs, over 1,000 yards receiving. But if you get busted again, the contract voids. If he returns to Pro Bowl form, we can always franchise him next year. That's the scary thought- because that $16 million would be guaranteed regardless.
Question, is the $16 million guaranteed if he tests positive or screws up the conditions of his substance abuse program and gets suspended again? (if he's franchised)
Question, is the $16 million guaranteed if he tests positive or screws up the conditions of his substance abuse program and gets suspended again? (if he's franchised)
Good question, and I don't thing it's ever come up before. It has to be in the fine print somewhere in the collective bargaining agreement. Looks like that money would be guaranteed regardless. So, if Josh goes on to have a stellar season this year, it would greatly behoove the Browns to work out a long term deal first- that would void the rest of the contract in the event he gets suspended again.
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Hey guys, first post and life long Raider fan here. I applaud the Browns for sticking with Gordon and the way he is humbly dedicated to the team. I hope he retires a Brown.
I wanted to pop in and offer my input to you guys and to be honest you are not that far of. Some things I would consider:
Sign McCarron and by all means keep Kizer, but stash as the #2 and let him settle down from 2017.
Miami just tagged Landry. Make a serious run at him ( you got cap, use it now $15 - $16 mil per annum), send Miami your #4 this year and next yrs first.You have all those second rnd picks to make up for the loss of #4. Landry on one side, Gordon on the other (drool)
Sign Gordon, I believe he would sign for a reasonable amount
Draft Barkley #1
Good luck on the season
Hey guys, first post and life long Raider fan here. I applaud the Browns for sticking with Gordon and the way he is humbly dedicated to the team. I hope he retires a Brown.
I wanted to pop in and offer my input to you guys and to be honest you are not that far of. Some things I would consider:
Sign McCarron and by all means keep Kizer, but stash as the #2 and let him settle down from 2017.
Miami just tagged Landry. Make a serious run at him ( you got cap, use it now $15 - $16 mil per annum), send Miami your #4 this year and next yrs first.You have all those second rnd picks to make up for the loss of #4. Landry on one side, Gordon on the other (drool)
Sign Gordon, I believe he would sign for a reasonable amount
Draft Barkley #1
Good luck on the season
Our #4 and next year’s first is a steep price to pay for Landry.
I hope we get Albert Wilson from KC to play slot receiver
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Hey guys, first post and life long Raider fan here. I applaud the Browns for sticking with Gordon and the way he is humbly dedicated to the team. I hope he retires a Brown.
I wanted to pop in and offer my input to you guys and to be honest you are not that far of. Some things I would consider:
Sign McCarron and by all means keep Kizer, but stash as the #2 and let him settle down from 2017.
Miami just tagged Landry. Make a serious run at him ( you got cap, use it now $15 - $16 mil per annum), send Miami your #4 this year and next yrs first.You have all those second rnd picks to make up for the loss of #4. Landry on one side, Gordon on the other (drool)
Sign Gordon, I believe he would sign for a reasonable amount
Draft Barkley #1
Good luck on the season
Our #4 and next year’s first is a steep price to pay for Landry.
I hope we get Albert Wilson from KC to play slot receiver
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Hey guys, first post and life long Raider fan here. I applaud the Browns for sticking with Gordon and the way he is humbly dedicated to the team. I hope he retires a Brown.
I wanted to pop in and offer my input to you guys and to be honest you are not that far of. Some things I would consider:
Sign McCarron and by all means keep Kizer, but stash as the #2 and let him settle down from 2017.
Miami just tagged Landry. Make a serious run at him ( you got cap, use it now $15 - $16 mil per annum), send Miami your #4 this year and next yrs first.You have all those second rnd picks to make up for the loss of #4. Landry on one side, Gordon on the other (drool)
Sign Gordon, I believe he would sign for a reasonable amount
Draft Barkley #1
Good luck on the season
Our #4 and next year’s first is a steep price to pay for Landry.
I hope we get Albert Wilson from KC to play slot receiver
Our #4 and next year’s first is a steep price to pay for Landry.
I hope we get Albert Wilson from KC to play slot receiver
It would be easier to take Calvin Ridley @#4 or Christian Kirk by trading into the late 1st.
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Our #4 and next year’s first is a steep price to pay for Landry.
I hope we get Albert Wilson from KC to play slot receiver
It would be easier to take Calvin Ridley @#4 or Christian Kirk by trading into the late 1st.
It would be easier to take Calvin Ridley @#4 or Christian Kirk by trading into the late 1st.
Corey Coleman...go take a seat... https://www.nfl.com/labs/cfb247/christian-kirk/christian-kirk quote coming from Saban, who is Ridley's coach. this kid can ball
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A lot of posters here overstate kizer's raw talent and potential. I'm not saying he is cody kessler in terms of lack of upside if everything clicks, but his natural ability is far less than some here make it out to be. Hes not nearly as good of an athlete as some here describe him, and his arm when he isn't stepping into a throw and not right on his spot is not as great as some here describe it.
Also the comparisons to Goff are ridiculous.Goff was the #1 overall pick who despite a terrible rookie season was still going into year #2 as someone who was drafted #1 just a year earlier. Thought of in a completely different way than kizer.
But yeah, no point in really 'trading' him. It would basically be like releasing him.
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A lot of posters here overstate kizer's raw talent and potential. I'm not saying he is cody kessler in terms of lack of upside if everything clicks, but his natural ability is far less than some here make it out to be. Hes not nearly as good of an athlete as some here describe him, and his arm when he isn't stepping into a throw and not right on his spot is not as great as some here describe it.
Also the comparisons to Goff are ridiculous.Goff was the #1 overall pick who despite a terrible rookie season was still going into year #2 as someone who was drafted #1 just a year earlier. Thought of in a completely different way than kizer.
But yeah, no point in really 'trading' him. It would basically be like releasing him.
A lot of posters here overstate kizer's raw talent and potential. I'm not saying he is cody kessler in terms of lack of upside if everything clicks, but his natural ability is far less than some here make it out to be. Hes not nearly as good of an athlete as some here describe him, and his arm when he isn't stepping into a throw and not right on his spot is not as great as some here describe it.
Also the comparisons to Goff are ridiculous.Goff was the #1 overall pick who despite a terrible rookie season was still going into year #2 as someone who was drafted #1 just a year earlier. Thought of in a completely different way than kizer.
But yeah, no point in really 'trading' him. It would basically be like releasing him.
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