The Combine - a few days away...
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Simmie Cobb looked very good in the Ohio state game. He's a big wr too.
He'd be a great mid round pick
He may have trouble with his speed and long strides - getting open in the NFL may make him a bust.
or, his red flags could:
While he uses his body well when running, Cobbs’ routes aren’t the sharpest, and the aforementioned speed question limits his ability to create separation. The lost season should see plenty attention on his ankle during medical checks for any long-term concerns.
Off-field red flags could also hurt him, after an arrest before the 2017 season started that nearly led to him being made to sit for the Ohio State game referenced, after an incident with police following a concert.
He may have trouble with his speed and long strides - getting open in the NFL may make him a bust.
or, his red flags could:
While he uses his body well when running, Cobbs’ routes aren’t the sharpest, and the aforementioned speed question limits his ability to create separation. The lost season should see plenty attention on his ankle during medical checks for any long-term concerns.
Off-field red flags could also hurt him, after an arrest before the 2017 season started that nearly led to him being made to sit for the Ohio State game referenced, after an incident with police following a concert.
Sweet. Late round pick then.
In all seriousness, the wrs who looked great in the Sr bowl are worth taking a long look at
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You do realize there are at least 2 other quarterbacks that could be drafted high in the first round besides Jake Allen and Rosen right? Why is it everytime someone says anything remotely negative about Allen you have to go on a diatribe about Rosen?
Its unhealthy the hate you have for someone you don't even know.
You do realize I have talked about Darnold a lot, too, right? Why is it you have to keep bitching the same bitching about Allen, and never be honest about your rosenbum? I actually completely stopped talking about him, but you, for one, wouldn't stop talking about him, so...lol, it was back on. And, you keep smarting off to me indirectly, and whatever - you get it back cause I don't care if you are a mod, you start crap, you get crap.
I'm just stubborn that way. I don't HATE rosen. I don't RESPECT him off the field, and I see glaring problems with him ON the field.
The off the field stuff - I wrote him off my list. Undraftable. Not durable, not a leader, doesn't love the game, can't handle adversity on or off the field, his accuracy goes badly when he is pressured, etc etc etcetc.
Here is the question: Why do you keep bringing Allen up negatively, when you don't want to keep hearing about him? LOL.
It seems that you want to campaign for your little fragile pipsqueak rosen, and you want the Browns to draft him, and maybe...you think that criticism of him on this board will be read by the Browns and they won't draft him? AHAHAHA.
whatever. That's just a guess. Why is it, you cannot say good things about Allen? and can't admit negatives about Rosen?
It's unhealthy to be all wet in egypt, and not know it.
You do realize I have talked about Darnold a lot, too, right? Why is it you have to keep bitching the same bitching about Allen, and never be honest about your rosenbum? I actually completely stopped talking about him, but you, for one, wouldn't stop talking about him, so...lol, it was back on. And, you keep smarting off to me indirectly, and whatever - you get it back cause I don't care if you are a mod, you start crap, you get crap.
I'm just stubborn that way. I don't HATE rosen. I don't RESPECT him off the field, and I see glaring problems with him ON the field.
The off the field stuff - I wrote him off my list. Undraftable. Not durable, not a leader, doesn't love the game, can't handle adversity on or off the field, his accuracy goes badly when he is pressured, etc etc etcetc.
Here is the question: Why do you keep bringing Allen up negatively, when you don't want to keep hearing about him? LOL.
It seems that you want to campaign for your little fragile pipsqueak rosen, and you want the Browns to draft him, and maybe...you think that criticism of him on this board will be read by the Browns and they won't draft him? AHAHAHA.
whatever. That's just a guess. Why is it, you cannot say good things about Allen? and can't admit negatives about Rosen?
It's unhealthy to be all wet in egypt, and not know it.
Cal, you're as negative about Rosen as Po is positive about Barkley. You don't need to keep spewing the same diatribe- it's really, really old.
FWIW, Mark isn't in love with Rosen- neither am I. But we say anything negative about Allen- or think he's not all that great a prospect- you get your panties all in a bunch.
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yet, I've admitted Allen needs some time many times. You just don't read, you want to emotionally knee jerk like the typical
rosenbum poster licker.
To the first statement....To me, it's foolish to draft a QB that is a project and needs time at #1 overall or even #4 overall on a team that has more holes than swiss cheese. This team needs guys who can play, not a guy who needs 2 or 3 years of sitting around learning how to play. We already have that guy on the roster, why do we want to go that route again.
As for the 2nd statement...Nice to see that you've really grown up in the last week since I've spent a lot of time on the board.
To the first statement....To me, it's foolish to draft a QB that is a project and needs time at #1 overall or even #4 overall on a team that has more holes than swiss cheese. This team needs guys who can play, not a guy who needs 2 or 3 years of sitting around learning how to play. We already have that guy on the roster, why do we want to go that route again.
As for the 2nd statement...Nice to see that you've really grown up in the last week since I've spent a lot of time on the board.
Drafting a QB and throwing him out there day 1 would be a mistake.
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If it is not corrected by professional coaching.
Penn State Larry Johnson came to the Chiefs and was carrying the ball wrong. Had to be taught the correct way.
So you think the positioning for carrying a football is the same as a QB's throwing motion?
So you think the positioning for carrying a football is the same as a QB's throwing motion?
Bad mechanics.
Some of these guys have been playing football since pee wee days and are doing it wrong.
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Video shows in spades why some of us want no part of Josh.
Agreed. Incidentally, in another video, Voch Lombardi commented that people hating on Lamar Jackson need to check the tape and the stats. His passing stats are superior to Allen's, and he's the most dangerous runner we've ever seen at QB. He'll surprise some teams.
The Rosen vid should come tomorrow. He also commented that all the QB's need work on technique except Rosen.
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Anybody else notice how Allen throws off his back foot and relies too much on his arm? This vid guy basically said this in not so many words when Allen stepped up in the pocket on a TD pass Also, notice that Allens stance is not always perpendicular to the line of scrimmage. He has both feet parallel to the LOS on a lot of throws and sometimes his arm gets him by and sometimes it does not.
The guy who made this vid is good, but the pass to the other teams sideline was a throwaway. His WR had tight double coverage. Another Allen throwaway in the end zone drew PI. Then, Allen gets blamed when he lays it on the numbers and the WR drops it because the pass was too perfect. Whatever.
Allen needs a QB coach yesterday.
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Video shows in spades why some of us want no part of Josh.
Agreed. Incidentally, in another video, Voch Lombardi commented that people hating on Lamar Jackson need to check the tape and the stats. His passing stats are superior to Allen's, and he's the most dangerous runner we've ever seen at QB. He'll surprise some teams.
The Rosen vid should come tomorrow. He also commented that all the QB's need work on technique except Rosen.
Agreed. Incidentally, in another video, Voch Lombardi commented that people hating on Lamar Jackson need to check the tape and the stats. His passing stats are superior to Allen's, and he's the most dangerous runner we've ever seen at QB. He'll surprise some teams.
The Rosen vid should come tomorrow. He also commented that all the QB's need work on technique except Rosen.
Jackson would be a huge mistake.
Say hello to RG3 and Johnny Pigskin rolled into one guy. LJ4
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Inaccuracy. There it is in a nutshell on Josh Allen. We already have a big strong QB with legs and a big strong inaccurate arm. The Browns do not need two.
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Inaccuracy. There it is in a nutshell on Josh Allen. We already have a big strong QB with legs and a big strong inaccurate arm. The Browns do not need two.
Inaccuracy. There it is in a nutshell on Josh Allen. We already have a big strong QB with legs and a big strong inaccurate arm. The Browns do not need two.
But Allen is different. Don't know why but surely he is, right?
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You do realize I have talked about Darnold a lot, too, right? Why is it you have to keep bitching the same bitching about Allen, and never be honest about your rosenbum? I actually completely stopped talking about him, but you, for one, wouldn't stop talking about him, so...lol, it was back on. And, you keep smarting off to me indirectly, and whatever - you get it back cause I don't care if you are a mod, you start crap, you get crap.
I'm just stubborn that way. I don't HATE rosen. I don't RESPECT him off the field, and I see glaring problems with him ON the field.
The off the field stuff - I wrote him off my list. Undraftable. Not durable, not a leader, doesn't love the game, can't handle adversity on or off the field, his accuracy goes badly when he is pressured, etc etc etcetc.
Here is the question: Why do you keep bringing Allen up negatively, when you don't want to keep hearing about him? LOL.
It seems that you want to campaign for your little fragile pipsqueak rosen, and you want the Browns to draft him, and maybe...you think that criticism of him on this board will be read by the Browns and they won't draft him? AHAHAHA.
whatever. That's just a guess. Why is it, you cannot say good things about Allen? and can't admit negatives about Rosen?
It's unhealthy to be all wet in egypt, and not know it.
Cal, you're as negative about Rosen as Po is positive about Barkley. You don't need to keep spewing the same diatribe- it's really, really old.
FWIW, Mark isn't in love with Rosen- neither am I. But we say anything negative about Allen- or think he's not all that great a prospect- you get your panties all in a bunch.
Cal, you're as negative about Rosen as Po is positive about Barkley. You don't need to keep spewing the same diatribe- it's really, really old.
FWIW, Mark isn't in love with Rosen- neither am I. But we say anything negative about Allen- or think he's not all that great a prospect- you get your panties all in a bunch.
and yet, it's fine with you regarding all the repeated and repeated and repeated exaggerations about Allen. Go figure, eh?
I ain't got panties, girlyman. I'm just sitting back wondering why all the hate toward Allen, and not one freaking positive. But I'm so negative about rosen? Mirrors have reflections. Well, unless you're a vampire...crap.
For every action, there is a reaction. I offered Markie a deal. Haven't noticed if he took it up or not. I'm responding, not initiating.
It's just a bit of poetic justice. Rosen isn't likeable. Best pure passer, yada yada yada a thousand times. The ONLY thing you few have to say about Allen is that he sucks. Well, we'll see where he gets drafted, in what order the qb's do.
Again, it's like you and Mark and a few others frantically want to convince the Browns to draft rosen, and you can't stand anything positive about a player that isn't your guy.
I'll offer you the same deal: You stop ragging on Allen, stop talking about him completely until the draft, and I won't say one peep about rosen til the draft. Have a nice day. Oh, you are correct, though, it's all been said more than a few times, nothing else to say.
I quit talking about Allen and Rosen, but you few kept at it. What goes around comes around.
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BTW, I'd have go find it, but Boo is correct - and Allen knows he needs serious work on his footwork - he admitted he's been working on it seriously. That is easier than overcoming a personality that can ruin a career before it gets going, and being fragile, and being immobile, and being a sarcastic jackwagon sombeitch. I'd take my chances with the first one. But Allen needs work. But like Elway was saying - if it works out, a qb could be one of the best with great coaching and work.
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You do realize I have talked about Darnold a lot, too, right? Why is it you have to keep bitching the same bitching about Allen, and never be honest about your rosenbum? I actually completely stopped talking about him, but you, for one, wouldn't stop talking about him, so...lol, it was back on. And, you keep smarting off to me indirectly, and whatever - you get it back cause I don't care if you are a mod, you start crap, you get crap.
I'm just stubborn that way. I don't HATE rosen. I don't RESPECT him off the field, and I see glaring problems with him ON the field.
The off the field stuff - I wrote him off my list. Undraftable. Not durable, not a leader, doesn't love the game, can't handle adversity on or off the field, his accuracy goes badly when he is pressured, etc etc etcetc.
Here is the question: Why do you keep bringing Allen up negatively, when you don't want to keep hearing about him? LOL.
It seems that you want to campaign for your little fragile pipsqueak rosen, and you want the Browns to draft him, and maybe...you think that criticism of him on this board will be read by the Browns and they won't draft him? AHAHAHA.
whatever. That's just a guess. Why is it, you cannot say good things about Allen? and can't admit negatives about Rosen?
It's unhealthy to be all wet in egypt, and not know it.
Cal, you're as negative about Rosen as Po is positive about Barkley. You don't need to keep spewing the same diatribe- it's really, really old.
FWIW, Mark isn't in love with Rosen- neither am I. But we say anything negative about Allen- or think he's not all that great a prospect- you get your panties all in a bunch.
Cal, you're as negative about Rosen as Po is positive about Barkley. You don't need to keep spewing the same diatribe- it's really, really old.
FWIW, Mark isn't in love with Rosen- neither am I. But we say anything negative about Allen- or think he's not all that great a prospect- you get your panties all in a bunch.
Again, it's like you and Mark and a few others frantically want to convince the Browns to draft rosen, and you can't stand anything positive about a player that isn't your guy.
And there it is...right there in plain sight for everyone to see. Cal you can't read what others are posting because you feel the need to defend your boy wonder Allen so badly. One last time and then I'm done responding to you because you've just become a waste of my time...kinda like the other prospect humper Poe has become. Rosen is not my first choice. Did you get it that time?
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BTW, I'd have go find it, but Boo is correct - and Allen knows he needs serious work on his footwork - he admitted he's been working on it seriously. That is easier than overcoming a personality that can ruin a career before it gets going, and being fragile, and being immobile, and being a sarcastic jackwagon sombeitch. I'd take my chances with the first one. But Allen needs work. But like Elway was saying - if it works out, a qb could be one of the best with great coaching and work.
BTW, I'd have go find it, but Boo is correct - and Allen knows he needs serious work on his footwork - he admitted he's been working on it seriously. That is easier than overcoming a personality that can ruin a career before it gets going, and being fragile, and being immobile, and being a sarcastic jackwagon sombeitch. I'd take my chances with the first one. But Allen needs work. But like Elway was saying - if it works out, a qb could be one of the best with great coaching and work.
Realistically, has Cleveland ever "fixed" a QB with serious flaws? I am not jumping up and down for Rosen by any means. I just think that he and Darnold require the least amount of "fixing". A top 4 pick shouldn't require a major reworking of their mechanics. Cleveland doesn't have that kind of luxury to wait around on their guy to "get it".
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BTW, I'd have go find it, but Boo is correct - and Allen knows he needs serious work on his footwork - he admitted he's been working on it seriously. That is easier than overcoming a personality that can ruin a career before it gets going, and being fragile, and being immobile, and being a sarcastic jackwagon sombeitch. I'd take my chances with the first one. But Allen needs work. But like Elway was saying - if it works out, a qb could be one of the best with great coaching and work.
Realistically, has Cleveland ever "fixed" a QB with serious flaws? I am not jumping up and down for Rosen by any means. I just think that he and Darnold require the least amount of "fixing". A top 4 pick shouldn't require a major reworking of their mechanics. Cleveland doesn't have that kind of luxury to wait around on their guy to "get it".
Realistically, has Cleveland ever "fixed" a QB with serious flaws? I am not jumping up and down for Rosen by any means. I just think that he and Darnold require the least amount of "fixing". A top 4 pick shouldn't require a major reworking of their mechanics. Cleveland doesn't have that kind of luxury to wait around on their guy to "get it".
I completely agree. A top 4 pick needs to be a star and very very quickly. Rosen's injury history scares me. Of all of them, Darnold needs the least fixing I think. I believe that the fumbles can be coached out of him, like we've seen with running backs.
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Cal, you're as negative about Rosen as Po is positive about Barkley. You don't need to keep spewing the same diatribe- it's really, really old.
FWIW, Mark isn't in love with Rosen- neither am I. But we say anything negative about Allen- or think he's not all that great a prospect- you get your panties all in a bunch.
Again, it's like you and Mark and a few others frantically want to convince the Browns to draft rosen, and you can't stand anything positive about a player that isn't your guy.
And there it is...right there in plain sight for everyone to see. Cal you can't read what others are posting because you feel the need to defend your boy wonder Allen so badly. One last time and then I'm done responding to you because you've just become a waste of my time...kinda like the other prospect humper Poe has become. Rosen is not my first choice. Did you get it that time?
And there it is...right there in plain sight for everyone to see. Cal you can't read what others are posting because you feel the need to defend your boy wonder Allen so badly. One last time and then I'm done responding to you because you've just become a waste of my time...kinda like the other prospect humper Poe has become. Rosen is not my first choice. Did you get it that time?
I"m not defending Allen, Markie. I'm countering the constant nonsense about how he is definitely a bust, etc etc etc etc. As far as your boy rosen...lol.... your constant false allegations about me deserve that. See, you slur me, so I nailed you with being a rosenbum.
I wish you would just STFU just once. Did you accept the deal? you stop talking about Allen and Rosen completely til the draft, or until after the draft, and I will too?
Deal? or NO DEAL ?
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BTW, I'd have go find it, but Boo is correct - and Allen knows he needs serious work on his footwork - he admitted he's been working on it seriously. That is easier than overcoming a personality that can ruin a career before it gets going, and being fragile, and being immobile, and being a sarcastic jackwagon sombeitch. I'd take my chances with the first one. But Allen needs work. But like Elway was saying - if it works out, a qb could be one of the best with great coaching and work.
Realistically, has Cleveland ever "fixed" a QB with serious flaws? I am not jumping up and down for Rosen by any means. I just think that he and Darnold require the least amount of "fixing". A top 4 pick shouldn't require a major reworking of their mechanics. Cleveland doesn't have that kind of luxury to wait around on their guy to "get it".
Realistically, has Cleveland ever "fixed" a QB with serious flaws? I am not jumping up and down for Rosen by any means. I just think that he and Darnold require the least amount of "fixing". A top 4 pick shouldn't require a major reworking of their mechanics. Cleveland doesn't have that kind of luxury to wait around on their guy to "get it".
Well, it seems that way. There isn't a qb in this draft with no significant questions. Wentz was that guy. Garroppolo sp? was that guy. There aren't many. No matter who the Browns might draft at 1 or 4, they are taking a chance with any qb. That is the tough part.
You can't coach away stupid, but if a very athletic player can adapt and fix his shortcomings, that would be great. I don't think you can coach seeing the field. Right now, I just hope they don't get the #22 pick and draft a qb, because that will make us all sick before the guy busts. Not many Garoppolos around. sp? dammit.
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Realistically, has Cleveland ever "fixed" a QB with serious flaws? I am not jumping up and down for Rosen by any means. I just think that he and Darnold require the least amount of "fixing". A top 4 pick shouldn't require a major reworking of their mechanics. Cleveland doesn't have that kind of luxury to wait around on their guy to "get it".
Well, it seems that way. There isn't a qb in this draft with no significant questions. Wentz was that guy. Garroppolo sp? was that guy. There aren't many. No matter who the Browns might draft at 1 or 4, they are taking a chance with any qb. That is the tough part.
You can't coach away stupid, but if a very athletic player can adapt and fix his shortcomings, that would be great. I don't think you can coach seeing the field. Right now, I just hope they don't get the #22 pick and draft a qb, because that will make us all sick before the guy busts. Not many Garoppolos around. sp? dammit.
Well, it seems that way. There isn't a qb in this draft with no significant questions. Wentz was that guy. Garroppolo sp? was that guy. There aren't many. No matter who the Browns might draft at 1 or 4, they are taking a chance with any qb. That is the tough part.
You can't coach away stupid, but if a very athletic player can adapt and fix his shortcomings, that would be great. I don't think you can coach seeing the field. Right now, I just hope they don't get the #22 pick and draft a qb, because that will make us all sick before the guy busts. Not many Garoppolos around. sp? dammit.
If they trade back to 22 and take a QB, I will dropkick my TV haha.
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