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Trump announces steel and aluminum tariffs, stock markets take a tumble

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  • Canton DawgC Canton Dawg

    @texasag1969 said:

    I was being factious. Gold is what you need for the Zombie Apocalypse. 🙄 We're getting closer though.😁

    https://www.ft.com/content/7b354ff8-1d73-11e8-aaca-4574d7dabfb6

    I remember working with a guy back in 1999, and he was concerned about the impending Y2K computer bug.

    He bought up a bunch of gold prior to New Years Day 2000.

    Guy lost a sh!tload of money, when he tried to get it exchanged for greenbacks.

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    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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    @canton-dawg said:

    I remember working with a guy back in 1999, and he was concerned about the impending Y2K computer bug.

    He bought up a bunch of gold prior to New Years Day 2000.

    Guy lost a sh!tload of money, when he tried to get it exchanged for greenbacks.

    He should have kept it until about 2010 or 2011.

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      DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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      Gold is what you need for the Zombie Apocalypse. 🙄 We're getting closer though.😁

      Image result for trump zombie meme

      "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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      • Canton DawgC Canton Dawg

        @jbluhm86 said:

        To hedge against sudden depreciation of paper currencies and the volatility of the stock market...like when the stock market drops -1100 points in 3 days due in part to a buffoon talking about trade tariffs, for example.

        And gold is a commodity, and you're trying to tell me that its price doesn't fluctuate?

        Sorry, I've made a killing on stocks & bonds over the years and to hedge your future on 1 single commodity is ludicrous.

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        jbluhm86J jbluhm86 wrote on last edited by
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        @canton-dawg said:

        And gold is a commodity, and you're trying to tell me that its price doesn't fluctuate?...

        Check my response, where did I say that it doesn't fluctuate? It does, but less so than fiat currencies, bonds, and stocks. That's why people buy it to use as a hedge during economic downturns.

        @canton-dawg said:

        Sorry, I've made a killing on stocks & bonds over the years and to hedge your future on 1 single commodity is ludicrous.

        Again, where did I say to invest in one single commodity? As for gold and precious metals, most financial experts advise to keep around 10% or less of savings and investments in gold, although some more paranoid investors bump it up all the way to 25%

        "That which can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence”. - Christopher Hitchens "The universe is under no obligation to make sense to you". - Neil deGrasse Tyson
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        • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan

          Gold is what you need for the Zombie Apocalypse. 🙄 We're getting closer though.😁

          Image result for trump zombie meme

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          jbluhm86J jbluhm86 wrote on last edited by
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          @diehardbrownsfan said:

          Image result for trump zombie meme

          Perhaps zombie trump could focus on getting a brain of his own first before trying to go after others. 😆

          "That which can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence”. - Christopher Hitchens "The universe is under no obligation to make sense to you". - Neil deGrasse Tyson
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            T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by TexasAg1969
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            PS-I bought one of those Zombuck 1 oz. silver dimes for my daughter as a Xmas gag gift because when she lived in Cal. she always told people that when the Zombie Apocalypse came, her Vietnam Vet dad would come save her.😛

            EDIT: And obviously under Trump it's closer because now she moved back here about 5 min. away.😆

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              W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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              You've got an ounce of silver? Well hell buddy you're set.

              😎

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              • jbluhm86J jbluhm86

                @canton-dawg said:

                And gold is a commodity, and you're trying to tell me that its price doesn't fluctuate?...

                Check my response, where did I say that it doesn't fluctuate? It does, but less so than fiat currencies, bonds, and stocks. That's why people buy it to use as a hedge during economic downturns.

                @canton-dawg said:

                Sorry, I've made a killing on stocks & bonds over the years and to hedge your future on 1 single commodity is ludicrous.

                Again, where did I say to invest in one single commodity? As for gold and precious metals, most financial experts advise to keep around 10% or less of savings and investments in gold, although some more paranoid investors bump it up all the way to 25%

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                Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by
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                @jbluhm86 said:

                Check my response, where did I say that it doesn't fluctuate? It does, but less so than fiat currencies, bonds, and stocks. That's why people buy it to use as a hedge during economic downturns.

                Again, where did I say to invest in one single commodity? As for gold and precious metals, most financial experts advise to keep around 10% or less of savings and investments in gold, although some more paranoid investors bump it up all the way to 25%

                I was a Registered Financial Consultant for almost 15 years, and Jeremy Siegel was one of my favorite instructors.

                Dr. Siegel is a finance professor at the Wharton School of Business at the University of Pennsylvania.

                His chart of real returns for various investment asset classes, adjusted for inflation, shows what would have happened if you had invested one dollar in 1802 and held it through Dec. 31, 2012. The results:

                One dollar invested in Treasury bills would now be worth $282. 

                One dollar invested in long-term bonds would now be worth $1,632. 

                One dollar invested in the U.S. stock market would now be worth $706,199. 

                One dollar invested in gold would now be worth $4.50. 

                One dollar placed under a mattress would now be worth only five cents, its value eroded by inflation.

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                  @canton-dawg said:

                  I remember working with a guy back in 1999, and he was concerned about the impending Y2K computer bug.

                  He bought up a bunch of gold prior to New Years Day 2000.

                  Guy lost a sh!tload of money, when he tried to get it exchanged for greenbacks.

                  He should have kept it until about 2010 or 2011.

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                  Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by
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                  @texasag1969 said:

                  He should have kept it until about 2010 or 2011.

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                  If you bought gold in 2011, you would still be waiting to get a positive return on your investment...timing is everything.

                  Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney
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                    DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                    I bought a unit ring made of 22K gold from Thailand in 1985, It cost I think arount 169 dollars.  Now it is worth almost 2,000.

                    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                      I think the tariffs are a good idea.  You have to see the reaction from the global economy and adjust.  At some point we must begin to transition more towards producers and less from consumers.

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                        htownbrownH htownbrown wrote on last edited by htownbrown
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                        Can't say I really like this.  But it's happening, Mexico IS going to pay for that wall.

                        “It is impossible to get a man to understand something if his livelihood depends on him not understanding.”
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                          Can't say I really like this.  But it's happening, Mexico IS going to pay for that wall.

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                          @htownbrown said:

                          Can't say I really like this.  But it's happening, Mexico IS going to pay for that wall.

                          LOL! 

                          The cost for US to pay for the wall just went down.............................................if we build it out of cardboard rather than 25% more costly steel.

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                            C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by calfoxwc
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                            nah, the drug cartels would figure out a way to cut through it.

                            Make it out of steel. And in that, Mexico WILL end up paying for the wall. We told ya.

                            These countries have been taking away our companies for decades.

                            It HAD TO STOP.

                            MAGA !

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                              DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                                C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                                the dirtbag president of the AFL-CIO won't be happy.

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                                  nah, the drug cartels would figure out a way to cut through it.

                                  Make it out of steel. And in that, Mexico WILL end up paying for the wall. We told ya.

                                  These countries have been taking away our companies for decades.

                                  It HAD TO STOP.

                                  MAGA !

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                                  T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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                                  @calfoxwc said:

                                  nah, the drug cartels would figure out a way to cut through it.

                                  Make it out of steel. And in that, Mexico WILL end up paying for the wall. We told ya.

                                  These countries have been taking away our companies for decades.

                                  It HAD TO STOP.

                                  MAGA !

                                  The president of Mexico won't even talk to Trump anymore and our ambassador to Mexico just quit. So explain to me exactly in what universe will Mexico pay for the wall?

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                                    DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                                      @calfoxwc said:

                                      nah, the drug cartels would figure out a way to cut through it.

                                      Make it out of steel. And in that, Mexico WILL end up paying for the wall. We told ya.

                                      These countries have been taking away our companies for decades.

                                      It HAD TO STOP.

                                      MAGA !

                                      The president of Mexico won't even talk to Trump anymore and our ambassador to Mexico just quit. So explain to me exactly in what universe will Mexico pay for the wall?

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                                      C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by calfoxwc
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                                      @texasag1969 said:

                                      The president of Mexico won't even talk to Trump anymore and our ambassador to Mexico just quit. So explain to me exactly in what universe will Mexico pay for the wall?

                                      Tariffs, and we send back their uneducated criminals so THEY can refill their jails and give THEM welfare.

                                      the whole trade deficit was designed to help the world globally, The demcommunists decided that

                                      "we are the world".

                                      American companies like above, they come back. Guess who doesn't make money off them anymore?

                                      Oh, hell yeah. They pay bigtime for that.

                                      No, we are AMERICA. Build the Wall. Send all mexican gangs back there. Charge them 25 dollars for each one we send back,

                                      and that can help build the wall. That is about 25-50 million right there, plus the enormous cost of MEXICO paying to deal with the dregs of their own making.

                                      Oh, they are going to pay alright.

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                                        MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                        Remembers Ag, the payment is metaphorical now

                                        Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                                          Remembers Ag, the payment is metaphorical now

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                                          htownbrownH htownbrown wrote on last edited by
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                                          @mld-woody said:

                                          Remembers Ag, the payment is metaphorical now

                                          So true because I remember when Trump said, "we're going to send dumptrucks and those Mexicans are going to fill them with pesos at gunpoint."  Good catch!!

                                          You're going to make a good Chuck Schumer one day.

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