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gumby73

@sd_tom said:

I can see why Darnold didn't wanna throw. Hard when the WR timing isn't there. I've seen several miss routes, fall down, drop balls...etc.

Cam Newton damn near missed every throw at Combine & still went #1..Cam's mechcanics can't be any worse than Darnold right now.just wish Darnold would have slung it with no apparent injury not to.

TexasAg1969

@calfoxwc said:

Yeah, but he can throw it 90 yards. You miss the silly point.

I don't care how far he throws it if it is often 10 yds too far for a WR to catch up to or 10 yds over their heads on an out route. Accuracy is everything in the NFL..

miktoxic

allen CLEAR winner today and stock will rise. rosen looked like garbage. darnold not throwing. lamar too inconsistent. and a plain Shmuck you to mayfield.

for those who can't see that then they are B-L-I-N-D, but there's a lot of that going around these days. yep people can catch the ignorant pooper disease from a sneeze now.

SD_Tom

Mayfield running a 4.8 can end all the Wilson comparisons. Not even close to the athlete Wilson is.

TexasAg1969

Hands for the ball gauntlet drill went to Kirk, Washington and Wilson IMO. Very smooth for all 3. Made it look like someone was just handing them the ball.

calfoxwc

@texasag1969 said:

I don't care how far he throws it if it is often 10 yds too far for a WR to catch up to or 10 yds over their heads on an out route. Accuracy is everything in the NFL..

remember I said "eyeroll" ?

that means that throwing 90 yards is nice, but weedon could have done that, I think.

stillmotion

We could take Minkah and a QB too. I think we should stand pat instead of trading down this year. I know Schefter said we might trade down this year, but trading the #1 pick would leave me with a bad taste, especially if we don't take a QB #1 or #4.

calfoxwc

Then there is Shaquem Griffin. He's a terrific lb - has one hand. OMG, how cool - he did 20 reps bench press

with a prosthetic arm. I love to watch him play. He IS a *FOOTBALL PLAYER*

hoorta

@miktoxic said:

allen CLEAR winner today and stock will rise. rosen looked like garbage. darnold not throwing. lamar too inconsistent. and a plain Shmuck you to mayfield.

for those who can't see that then they are B-L-I-N-D, but there's a lot of that going around these days. yep people can catch the ignorant pooper disease from a sneeze now.

Welcome back Mik. Agreed on Allen and (RG IV)Jackson. I haven't watch the second group throwing drills yet- so no comment there. Allen needs to improve his accuracy and as Mayock said- anticipation. In the pros he won't be able to stand around and wait for his receiver to break open, then rifle the ball in there.

syd

@miktoxic said:

allen CLEAR winner today and stock will rise. rosen looked like garbage. darnold not throwing. lamar too inconsistent. and a plain Shmuck you to mayfield.

for those who can't see that then they are B-L-I-N-D, but there's a lot of that going around these days. yep people can catch the ignorant pooper disease from a sneeze now.

as of now i am still in the Darnold camp

long time no post man

gumby73

@miktoxic said:

and a plain Shmuck you to _________

Yo-Yoa Miktoxic!! We got plenty of time to over think this & screw it up..Meanwhile, Long time no tear jerking laughs from Toxic ..Hope things are going well for ya..Go Browns!!

darren15

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I reached out for a NFL scout's opinion of how the top QBs performed today. Here is how he ranked the Combine workouts: 1) Mayfield "accurate and quick" 2) Allen "some consistency" t-3) Rosen and Jackson "underwhelming" Just one opinion, but interesting nonetheless...

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@darren15 said:

Dane Brugler‏Verified account @dpbrugler 9m9 minutes ago

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I reached out for a NFL scout's opinion of how the top QBs performed today. Here is how he ranked the Combine workouts: 1) Mayfield "accurate and quick" 2) Allen "some consistency" t-3) Rosen and Jackson "underwhelming" Just one opinion, but interesting nonetheless...

If you can guarantee me Mayfield (or Darnold) will be there at #4, I can live with Barkley at #1.

syd

@hoorta said:

If you can guarantee me Mayfield (or Darnold) will be there at #4, I can live with Barkley at #1.

do you really take a chance on the QB that the team covets being there at 4 just to get a RB ?????? think about it

hoorta

@syd said:

do you really take a chance on the QB that the team covets being there at 4 just to get a RB ?????? think about it

Not really. None of us have any control over what will happen April 26th. I've said a bunch of times the odds of Saquon being there at #4 are way better than our preferred qb being there.

syd

@hoorta said:

Not really. None of us have any control over what will happen April 26th. I've said a bunch of times the odds of Saquon being there at #4 are way better than our preferred qb being there.

ah that's good you had me worried and that being said after we draft Darnold at #1 get Fitz at #4 even if barkley is there

hoorta

@syd said:

ah that's good you had me worried and that being said after we draft Darnold at #1 get Fitz at #4 even if barkley is there

For me Fitz or Barkley at #4 would be a tough call. If Chubb makes it that far- it's a no brainer.

syd

@hoorta said:

For me Fitz or Barkley at #4 would be a tough call. If Chubb makes it that far- it's a no brainer.

and that is what makes this draft awesome we get a QB and one of those guys will be there at #4 and please no trade downs if anything we could trade back up into the 1st if need be

Gunz41

Here is yet ANOTHER thing that will make me laugh, when somebodies pick does well at the combine, the ones for him will say "see I told you" and the ones against will say "it was just the combine, underwear olympics" and when THEIR guy doesn't do as well, it will be "Well it's just a workout, watch the TAPE or his highlights"

People will use anything for or against THEIR opinion, whether for or against. It ALL matters, and still not a guarantee.

Josh Allen had a good combine, while Rosen didn't. What happened today didn't make either one a better or worse player than what they were before. It may have changed their "stock", but they aren't a better or worse player than they were 24 hours ago.

SD_Tom

@gunz41 said:

Here is yet ANOTHER thing that will make me laugh, when somebodies pick does well at the combine, the ones for him will say "see I told you" and the ones against will say "it was just the combine, underwear olympics" and when THEIR guy doesn't do as well, it will be "Well it's just a workout, watch the TAPE or his highlights"

People will use anything for or against THEIR opinion, whether for or against. It ALL matters, and still not a guarantee.

Josh Allen had a good combine, while Rosen didn't. What happened today didn't make either one a better or worse player than what they were before. It may have changed their "stock", but they aren't a better or worse player than they were 24 hours ago.

Very true. The entire body of work still matters more than one single performance. I still thought Rosen threw the most consistent deep balls. He hit 3 beautiful ones in a row, right in stride. Judging from the game film, he throws guys open, where Allen and Mayfield tend to rifle it to open guys. I'll take the former any day. Really wish Darnold would've thrown, just to see him directly next to his peers.

Also- Rosen demonstrated he's highly underrated as an athlete. His 40, vertical, and broad jump were extremely solid.