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    The GipperT B 2 Replies

  • To think if not for him, we'd have given up a 2 and a 3 for AJ Shmucking McCarron, a soon to be free agent.

    As for 1-31, I would read through this thread of analysis via twitter as to the main reason why....

  • The 7 worst moves Sashi Brown made with the Browns

    Kenny Britt: 4 yrs, $32 million.

    "nuff said.

    "That which can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence”. - Christopher Hitchens "The universe is under no obligation to make sense to you". - Neil deGrasse Tyson
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  • https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/patriots-pick-up-second-year-option-on-kenny-britt-for-2018-season/

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  • Sashi inherited a team with a ton of cap space and extra draft picks by moves made by Joe Banner the draft before. 

    I'm glad he's not in charge of selecting all the players with his picks, but he should have a statue built in his likeness for not sending a 2nd and 3rd for McCarron.

    But he's gone LondonBrown, I suggest you move on. 

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  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven

    Sashi inherited a team with a ton of cap space and extra draft picks by moves made by Joe Banner the draft before. 

    I'm glad he's not in charge of selecting all the players with his picks, but he should have a statue built in his likeness for not sending a 2nd and 3rd for McCarron.

    But he's gone LondonBrown, I suggest you move on. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Sashi inherited a team with a ton of cap space and extra draft picks by moves made by Joe Banner the draft before. 

    I'm glad he's not in charge of selecting all the players with his picks, but he should have a statue built in his likeness for not sending a 2nd and 3rd for McCarron.

    But he's gone LondonBrown, I suggest you move on. 

    haha I have moved on most of my posts on this are done with tongue in cheek and i agree there's an argument to agree it's better he doesn't make these picks.

    Still, I thought the tweets were worth sharing as we are in draft season.

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  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven

    Sashi inherited a team with a ton of cap space and extra draft picks by moves made by Joe Banner the draft before. 

    I'm glad he's not in charge of selecting all the players with his picks, but he should have a statue built in his likeness for not sending a 2nd and 3rd for McCarron.

    But he's gone LondonBrown, I suggest you move on. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Sashi inherited a team with a ton of cap space and extra draft picks by moves made by Joe Banner the draft before. 

    I'm glad he's not in charge of selecting all the players with his picks, but he should have a statue built in his likeness for not sending a 2nd and 3rd for McCarron.

    But he's gone LondonBrown, I suggest you move on. 

    I mean all I would say is that Sashi set up this particular draft as the one to change the Browns around. He said so on many different occasions, and it is absolutely historic as noted in how many picks we own.

    I don't know if I would have trusted the dude to make the picks, but if this truly is the draft that moves the sticks for this organization he can't go thankless. It was very much his plan.

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  • Thanks Sashi.

    Thanks for giving away Carson Wentz to the Eagles for Corey Coleman and a bunch of other scrubs.

    Thanks for not drafting Watson the next year. 

    Thanks for telling guys like Mitchell Schwartz he wasn't worth spending money on but then throwing money down a hole on a worthless QB just to get a second round pick.

    Thanks for being such a prick that most FA's would even come visit the Browns

    Thanks for serving up a 1-31 sh it sandwich that we all had to sit down and enjoy.   

    Thanks for giving me most of my Sundays free to do other things other than watch the Browns

    Thanks for nothing Sashi.

    I feel like most people wouldn't have trouble acquiring the amount of picks he was able to acquire.

    Trading high draft picks when really good players that you know are on the board for lower draft picks and future draft picks that could be anywhere in the future draft is like that neighborhood kid who trades his brand new toy for 5 broken old toys and some candy.

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  • I appreciate all the times he avoided franchise changing talent to collect lottery tickets and hope for the best. Sashi also did a bang up job of painting the Browns into a corner where they are so historically bad that the only way to upgrade the roster is through the draft. The same process in which he always avoided talented players. 

    Sashi was the Roy Munson of GMs.

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    I think that there is something to be said about this:    that it is Baby Huey....and not Sashi....that screwed up this team the last couple of years.  

    Sashi is out because he could not schmooze the owners as well as Hue could....and probably because he purposely fouled up the McCarron trade...and even it that was a good move on his part...and it was.....It is seen as completely insubordinate, ergo demanding his departure.

    But...honestly....I don't really see this team getting a lot better with Hue as HC. 

    A few things may improve the team's fate:    1. they have an actual football guy making the picks...and all Hue can do is to go to him to beg for a player he wants...but Dorsey can say :  Frak off.  2.  They have a proven OC now.  A" guy that likely will not go into panic mode when the team gets in the red zone the way Hue so often did.  3. And we have Hue on a short leash.  In my opinion...if this team at any point goes say 3 games below .500...Hue is shove off a cliff.

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  • So the ridiculously young team that has gone 1-31 and is already full of the organization's draft picks gets a whole bunch more of them.......  all warm and fuzzy now. 

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  • D BoneD D Bone

    So the ridiculously young team that has gone 1-31 and is already full of the organization's draft picks gets a whole bunch more of them.......  all warm and fuzzy now. 

    @d-bone said:

    So the ridiculously young team that has gone 1-31 and is already full of the organization's draft picks gets a whole bunch more of them.......  all warm and fuzzy now. 

    Again, Sashi literally said out loud (albeit using context clues) that his plan was to suck butt for two years to get to year three and have a massive draft haul. He did what he said he was going to do and you all are acting like it's some big surprise.

    I'm not going to defend Sashi on not taking a dude like Wentz, or the "suck butt" plan went literally almost as bad as it could have gone. But he did call his shot from day 1. and IF this draft brings us a franchise guy and other cornerstone pieces, we can't sit there and act like Sashi didn't play a role in getting us to that point.

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  • Sashi did what he knew best - traded assets with numbers and dollar amounts attached to them.    

    This is why he was unable to pull the trigger on Wentz, Bosa, Thomas, etc etc.     His ability has its place in the NFL, but not as the man calling shots on draft day. 

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  • jrb12711J jrb12711

    @d-bone said:

    So the ridiculously young team that has gone 1-31 and is already full of the organization's draft picks gets a whole bunch more of them.......  all warm and fuzzy now. 

    Again, Sashi literally said out loud (albeit using context clues) that his plan was to suck butt for two years to get to year three and have a massive draft haul. He did what he said he was going to do and you all are acting like it's some big surprise.

    I'm not going to defend Sashi on not taking a dude like Wentz, or the "suck butt" plan went literally almost as bad as it could have gone. But he did call his shot from day 1. and IF this draft brings us a franchise guy and other cornerstone pieces, we can't sit there and act like Sashi didn't play a role in getting us to that point.

    @jrb12711 said:

    Again, Sashi literally said out loud (albeit using context clues) that his plan was to suck butt for two years........

    Mission accomplished. 

  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @londonbrown said:

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    I think that there is something to be said about this:    that it is Baby Huey....and not Sashi....that screwed up this team the last couple of years.  

    Sashi is out because he could not schmooze the owners as well as Hue could....and probably because he purposely fouled up the McCarron trade...and even it that was a good move on his part...and it was.....It is seen as completely insubordinate, ergo demanding his departure.

    But...honestly....I don't really see this team getting a lot better with Hue as HC. 

    A few things may improve the team's fate:    1. they have an actual football guy making the picks...and all Hue can do is to go to him to beg for a player he wants...but Dorsey can say :  Frak off.  2.  They have a proven OC now.  A" guy that likely will not go into panic mode when the team gets in the red zone the way Hue so often did.  3. And we have Hue on a short leash.  In my opinion...if this team at any point goes say 3 games below .500...Hue is shove off a cliff.

    @the-gipper said:

    I think that there is something to be said about this:    that it is Baby Huey....and not Sashi....that screwed up this team the last couple of years.  

    I don't think you can solely blame everything on Hue. A lot of people factored into us being bad and it started at the top with Jimmy and his "power structure" which was bound to fail. To have the GM and Coach both report to you separately is a pathetic setup. Sashi was inept at being a GM, but grade at making deals. He couldn't draft and that's not his fault, he was in over his head. He was superb at securing draft capital and I appreciate it. Now hopefully Dorsey can turn that draft capital into winning. That being said, If Hue can't win 5 games and we don't fire him I think riots will happen in Cleveland.

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    Been saying something similar. Yoo cost them wins. 

    The Browns are QB away from 7 - 9 wins. I cant place all the passing woes on the WRs when its a ;position that usually takes players getting into a rhythm like RB.

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    @the-gipper said:

    I think that there is something to be said about this:    that it is Baby Huey....and not Sashi....that screwed up this team the last couple of years.  

    I don't think you can solely blame everything on Hue. A lot of people factored into us being bad and it started at the top with Jimmy and his "power structure" which was bound to fail. To have the GM and Coach both report to you separately is a pathetic setup. Sashi was inept at being a GM, but grade at making deals. He couldn't draft and that's not his fault, he was in over his head. He was superb at securing draft capital and I appreciate it. Now hopefully Dorsey can turn that draft capital into winning. That being said, If Hue can't win 5 games and we don't fire him I think riots will happen in Cleveland.

    @stillmotion said:

    I don't think you can solely blame everything on Hue. A lot of people factored into us being bad and it started at the top with Jimmy and his "power structure" which was bound to fail. To have the GM and Coach both report to you separately is a pathetic setup. Sashi was inept at being a GM, but grade at making deals. He couldn't draft and that's not his fault, he was in over his head. He was superb at securing draft capital and I appreciate it. Now hopefully Dorsey can turn that draft capital into winning. That being said, If Hue can't win 5 games and we don't fire him I think riots will happen in Cleveland.

    Yoo said that Kizer looked good to go and then stuck with him.

    His magical play calling duties was more or less taken away. Even the Bengals would fire Yoo after 1 - 31, but he somehow has Haslam convinced its not him.

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  • stillmotionS stillmotion

    @the-gipper said:

    I think that there is something to be said about this:    that it is Baby Huey....and not Sashi....that screwed up this team the last couple of years.  

    I don't think you can solely blame everything on Hue. A lot of people factored into us being bad and it started at the top with Jimmy and his "power structure" which was bound to fail. To have the GM and Coach both report to you separately is a pathetic setup. Sashi was inept at being a GM, but grade at making deals. He couldn't draft and that's not his fault, he was in over his head. He was superb at securing draft capital and I appreciate it. Now hopefully Dorsey can turn that draft capital into winning. That being said, If Hue can't win 5 games and we don't fire him I think riots will happen in Cleveland.

    @stillmotion said:

    I don't think you can solely blame everything on Hue. A lot of people factored into us being bad and it started at the top with Jimmy and his "power structure" which was bound to fail. To have the GM and Coach both report to you separately is a pathetic setup. Sashi was inept at being a GM, but grade at making deals. He couldn't draft and that's not his fault, he was in over his head. He was superb at securing draft capital and I appreciate it. Now hopefully Dorsey can turn that draft capital into winning. That being said, If Hue can't win 5 games and we don't fire him I think riots will happen in Cleveland.

    But...the structure has not changed.   It is still the GM and the HC on equal steading...both reporting to the owner and not to each other really.

    So...if you think that was one of the big problems  (and I agree with you that it is)...then the situation has not changed one iota.

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