Any news on BB
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According to the OBR, Bell isn't playing with the first or second team defense. Sounds like he's on the outside looking in.
Aloysius said:
According to the OBR, Bell isn't playing with the first or second team defense. Sounds like he's on the outside looking in.Bell was working behind Jackson and was working with the first group on special teams. Knee seems to be fine. He just may be on the bubble because we have so many guys that can play multiple positions, which Mangini likes. They are going to keep just so many guys that can play ILB and it's tougher if that's your only position.
He seemed up on the defensive schemes they were running. I don't think the problem is intellegence. It's just that he is one dimensional. Might come down to him or Leon Williams.
I would guess that if he is going to make the team he is going to have to show them that he is a big time hitter once the pads go on.
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Aloysius said:
According to the OBR, Bell isn't playing with the first or second team defense. Sounds like he's on the outside looking in.Bell was working behind Jackson and was working with the first group on special teams. Knee seems to be fine. He just may be on the bubble because we have so many guys that can play multiple positions, which Mangini likes. They are going to keep just so many guys that can play ILB and it's tougher if that's your only position.
He seemed up on the defensive schemes they were running. I don't think the problem is intellegence. It's just that he is one dimensional. Might come down to him or Leon Williams.
I would guess that if he is going to make the team he is going to have to show them that he is a big time hitter once the pads go on.
Bell was working behind Jackson and was working with the first group on special teams. Knee seems to be fine. He just may be on the bubble because we have so many guys that can play multiple positions, which Mangini likes. They are going to keep just so many guys that can play ILB and it's tougher if that's your only position.
He seemed up on the defensive schemes they were running. I don't think the problem is intellegence. It's just that he is one dimensional. Might come down to him or Leon Williams.
I would guess that if he is going to make the team he is going to have to show them that he is a big time hitter once the pads go on.
I'll take him over Leon in a heartbeat, whether he sucks or not.
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@shepwrite said:
I'm not counting out Paul Hubbard. He's got the stuff you can't teach -- size, speed, natural athleticism, leaping ability -- and he seems to be learning the stuff you can teach, like running routes and catching the ball.i'd just argue that catching the ball, particularly in traffic or with a DB draped all over you, is something that's intrinsic, innate, inherent, and not a learned skill. there's a level of concentration that some guys have and some guys don't; it's what separates consistent receivers that every team wants, who always have success and who play the majority of their careers for a single team from guys who bounce around the league every two years as fourth or fifth receivers.
it's why we drafted robiskie. he doesn't have the most impressive physical tools, but he's got just enough, and he's also got great hands to compliment those tools, which will make him a dependable receiver.
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In my opinion Maiava's got Bell's number, figuratively of course.
Bell was playing ahead of Maiava, but then again the pads haven't even come on and Maiava isn't signed yet either. With Veikune and Bowens able to play inside and outside I'd have to think they aren't going to keep Maiave, Bell and Williams. I did read somewhere that Williams was going to be used as a backup OLB, pass rush specialist also. Plus, you have Bo Rudd, David Hollaway, Titus Brown and a few UDFAs.
When the pads go on someone is going to have to step up because there are too many bodies there.
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Zombo said:
Really? I see nothing at special about Bell. I thought Savage reached on him (if a fourth rounder can be a "reach"), I think he's too slow to start in the NFL and the best hope is for him to become a special teams demon.
Williams is poorly disciplined, and I wouldn't miss him .. but I think he's a better athlete than Bell.
Zombo
Hell, I'd just like to see enough of Bell to form an opinion.
I formed my opinion on Leon awhile back. The conclusion is he's stupid and sucks ass.
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Zombo said:
Really? I see nothing at special about Bell. I thought Savage reached on him (if a fourth rounder can be a "reach"), I think he's too slow to start in the NFL and the best hope is for him to become a special teams demon.
Williams is poorly disciplined, and I wouldn't miss him .. but I think he's a better athlete than Bell.
Zombo
Hell, I'd just like to see enough of Bell to form an opinion.
I formed my opinion on Leon awhile back. The conclusion is he's stupid and sucks ass.
Hell, I'd just like to see enough of Bell to form an opinion.
I formed my opinion on Leon awhile back. The conclusion is he's stupid and sucks ass.
The sad part is that as short as we were at corner there were some decent corners available in the 4th round and Bell probably was a big reach that got caught between the Savage vs RAC dispute. The kid never had a chance because RAC was going to show Savage that he was going to play the guys he wanted to.
RAC wanted a corner (Law especially) and Savage wouldn't spend the money on a veteran corner after Holly went down so he got him Cousins and RAC said I'll show you and wouldn't even put Bell on the field.
Really sucks for the kid, he didn't have a chance. Know, I don't know if he is even a fit with this staff. So, does he really suck ass or was it that he was injured and they knew he wouldn't get on the field last year anyway. Maybe we will never know because you haven't seen enough of him to know if he sucks ass, is dumb as a rock or just landed in the middle of a power struggle and never had a chance.
Look for him to be picked up by a pure 4-3 team as a MLB who can come in a put a hit on some guys.
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Hell, I'd just like to see enough of Bell to form an opinion.
I formed my opinion on Leon awhile back. The conclusion is he's stupid and sucks ass.
The sad part is that as short as we were at corner there were some decent corners available in the 4th round and Bell probably was a big reach that got caught between the Savage vs RAC dispute. The kid never had a chance because RAC was going to show Savage that he was going to play the guys he wanted to.
RAC wanted a corner (Law especially) and Savage wouldn't spend the money on a veteran corner after Holly went down so he got him Cousins and RAC said I'll show you and wouldn't even put Bell on the field.
Really sucks for the kid, he didn't have a chance. Know, I don't know if he is even a fit with this staff. So, does he really suck ass or was it that he was injured and they knew he wouldn't get on the field last year anyway. Maybe we will never know because you haven't seen enough of him to know if he sucks ass, is dumb as a rock or just landed in the middle of a power struggle and never had a chance.
Look for him to be picked up by a pure 4-3 team as a MLB who can come in a put a hit on some guys.
The sad part is that as short as we were at corner there were some decent corners available in the 4th round and Bell probably was a big reach that got caught between the Savage vs RAC dispute. The kid never had a chance because RAC was going to show Savage that he was going to play the guys he wanted to.
That's a very good point. I remember there being reports that the Browns had a trade deal arranged with a team holding a pick in the late 3rd in case Antwaun Molden fell, but there were a bunch of talented corners available at #104 (or #111).
Just a few names:
- Dwight Lowery: started ten games for Mangini last year, will play nickel this year
- Brandon Carr: started for the Chiefs last year, currently fighting for a starting job
- Orlando Scandrick: played some nickel for the Cowboys last year and will do so again this year
- Jonathan Wilhite: started four game for the Pats, competing for nickel job this year
- Reggie Corner: Akron product currently battling Ashton Youboty for the nickel job in Buffalo
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In my opinion Maiava's got Bell's number, figuratively of course.
Bell was playing ahead of Maiava, but then again the pads haven't even come on and Maiava isn't signed yet either. With Veikune and Bowens able to play inside and outside I'd have to think they aren't going to keep Maiave, Bell and Williams. I did read somewhere that Williams was going to be used as a backup OLB, pass rush specialist also. Plus, you have Bo Rudd, David Hollaway, Titus Brown and a few UDFAs.
When the pads go on someone is going to have to step up because there are too many bodies there.
Bell was playing ahead of Maiava, but then again the pads haven't even come on and Maiava isn't signed yet either. With Veikune and Bowens able to play inside and outside I'd have to think they aren't going to keep Maiave, Bell and Williams. I did read somewhere that Williams was going to be used as a backup OLB, pass rush specialist also. Plus, you have Bo Rudd, David Hollaway, Titus Brown and a few UDFAs.
When the pads go on someone is going to have to step up because there are too many bodies there.
re: Kaluka Kool-Aid.
Well he's signed now....one step closer. Soon come the pads.
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