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    Browns fan from Tenn since the cardiac kids days. Don’t post much but pretty pumped about moves yesterday but not sure about TT but hey that’s why I’m posting and not the GM

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      @kvoethe said:

      All I know is that we will make 5 picks before any of the ones we traded are used.

      thats freaking brilliant!!

      Yep. EDIT: If you had told me we could have Landry, Taylor and Randall without having to lose even one of those 1st and 2nd rounders I would have told you that you had lost your mind to even conceive of that idea.😮

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      @texasag1969 said:

      Yep. EDIT: If you had told me we could have Landry, Taylor and Randall without having to lose even one of those 1st and 2nd rounders I would have told you that you had lost your mind to even conceive of that idea.😮

      jarvis landry carrying a tag doesnt have value. It's fine that we picked him up(it's essentially like we signed him as a free agent that cost late round picks), but this is more a dump on the dolphins part of someone they didnt want to pay the tag(or a new deal) on......

      jarvis landry off his rookie deal was never going to 'cost' anyone much of anything

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        @texasag1969 said:

        Yep. EDIT: If you had told me we could have Landry, Taylor and Randall without having to lose even one of those 1st and 2nd rounders I would have told you that you had lost your mind to even conceive of that idea.😮

        jarvis landry carrying a tag doesnt have value. It's fine that we picked him up(it's essentially like we signed him as a free agent that cost late round picks), but this is more a dump on the dolphins part of someone they didnt want to pay the tag(or a new deal) on......

        jarvis landry off his rookie deal was never going to 'cost' anyone much of anything

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        The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by The Gipper
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        @tacosman said:

        jarvis landry carrying a tag doesnt have value. It's fine that we picked him up(it's essentially like we signed him as a free agent that cost late round picks), but this is more a dump on the dolphins part of someone they didnt want to pay the tag(or a new deal) on......

        jarvis landry off his rookie deal was never going to 'cost' anyone much of anything

        And who give a shite what the Dolphins motivations were.   The Browns have now obtained last year NFL leader in receptions.  That is all that matters.

        Are you going to yipe about the Dolphins motivations...or the money the Browns pay him.... if Landry catches 100 balls for the Browns?

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          One defeanat thought this FO is in to win.   We gained 3 starters traded away two.  Swapped 4th and fith rounders with GB.   In the end all for 3 draft picks.  And I thought it was going to be a slow off season and it hasn't officially started.   When did they start getting all this set up?  We will have a new roster next year and I am kinda excited.

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            @texasag1969 said:

            Yep. EDIT: If you had told me we could have Landry, Taylor and Randall without having to lose even one of those 1st and 2nd rounders I would have told you that you had lost your mind to even conceive of that idea.😮

            jarvis landry carrying a tag doesnt have value. It's fine that we picked him up(it's essentially like we signed him as a free agent that cost late round picks), but this is more a dump on the dolphins part of someone they didnt want to pay the tag(or a new deal) on......

            jarvis landry off his rookie deal was never going to 'cost' anyone much of anything

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            gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by gumby73
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            @tacosman said:

            jarvis landry carrying a tag doesnt have value. It's fine that we picked him up(it's essentially like we signed him as a free agent that cost late round picks), but this is more a dump on the dolphins part of someone they didnt want to pay the tag(or a new deal) on......

            jarvis landry off his rookie deal was never going to 'cost' anyone much of anything

            just simply proves ya can't pay Ndamukong Suh 6 years $114M till 2021. That's just over $19M per year at QB wages. Did they ask Suh to reduce while still trying to lock-up their best offensive weapon? can't pay them all with Suh on the books 

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              Mr. Make-BelieveM Mr. Make-Believe wrote on last edited by
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              Landry is PRECISELY what the Browns needed at WR. Dude catches balls and gets first downs... As good as any player in the NFL. He's a game-changer for this team.

              I couldn't possibly care less about the high salary. Worth every god damn penny.

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                Dorsey basically looked at the roster, looked at the $$$ we have to spend, and said "Hold my beer"

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                  Landry is PRECISELY what the Browns needed at WR. Dude catches balls and gets first downs... As good as any player in the NFL. He's a game-changer for this team.

                  I couldn't possibly care less about the high salary. Worth every god damn penny.

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                  @mr.-make-believe said:

                  Landry is PRECISELY what the Browns needed at WR. Dude catches balls and gets first downs... As good as any player in the NFL. He's a game-changer for this team.

                  I couldn't possibly care less about the high salary. Worth every god damn penny.

                  exactly

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                    @tacosman said:

                    jarvis landry carrying a tag doesnt have value. It's fine that we picked him up(it's essentially like we signed him as a free agent that cost late round picks), but this is more a dump on the dolphins part of someone they didnt want to pay the tag(or a new deal) on......

                    jarvis landry off his rookie deal was never going to 'cost' anyone much of anything

                    And who give a shite what the Dolphins motivations were.   The Browns have now obtained last year NFL leader in receptions.  That is all that matters.

                    Are you going to yipe about the Dolphins motivations...or the money the Browns pay him.... if Landry catches 100 balls for the Browns?

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                    @the-gipper said:

                    And who give a shite what the Dolphins motivations were.   The Browns have now obtained last year NFL leader in receptions.  That is all that matters.

                    Are you going to yipe about the Dolphins motivations...or the money the Browns pay him.... if Landry catches 100 balls for the Browns?

                    sigh....

                    Jarvis Landry last year was targeted 160 times and in those 160 times gained 987 yards.   6.16 yards per target.

                    If landry catches 100 balls for the browns next year and it requires 160+ targets and he barely hits 6 ypc....yeah, I'll still probably gripe.

                    Its not that Landry is a bad player.  And he will obviously help the browns because he is a quality slot guy.  But while things like '100 catches' and 'league leader in receptions' sounds good, he's not a top level reciever in the nfl. top level recievers in the nfl dont average less than 9 yards per catch and 6 yards per target.

                    the dolphins(and most other teams) arent interested in paying a non-top level reciever who averages 6 ypt franchise tag money....and I dont blame them.

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                      @the-gipper said:

                      And who give a shite what the Dolphins motivations were.   The Browns have now obtained last year NFL leader in receptions.  That is all that matters.

                      Are you going to yipe about the Dolphins motivations...or the money the Browns pay him.... if Landry catches 100 balls for the Browns?

                      sigh....

                      Jarvis Landry last year was targeted 160 times and in those 160 times gained 987 yards.   6.16 yards per target.

                      If landry catches 100 balls for the browns next year and it requires 160+ targets and he barely hits 6 ypc....yeah, I'll still probably gripe.

                      Its not that Landry is a bad player.  And he will obviously help the browns because he is a quality slot guy.  But while things like '100 catches' and 'league leader in receptions' sounds good, he's not a top level reciever in the nfl. top level recievers in the nfl dont average less than 9 yards per catch and 6 yards per target.

                      the dolphins(and most other teams) arent interested in paying a non-top level reciever who averages 6 ypt franchise tag money....and I dont blame them.

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                      @tacosman said:

                      sigh....

                      Jarvis Landry last year was targeted 160 times and in those 160 times gained 987 yards.   6.16 yards per target.

                      If landry catches 100 balls for the browns next year and it requires 160+ targets and he barely hits 6 ypc....yeah, I'll still probably gripe.

                      Its not that Landry is a bad player.  And he will obviously help the browns because he is a quality slot guy.  But while things like '100 catches' and 'league leader in receptions' sounds good, he's not a top level reciever in the nfl. top level recievers in the nfl dont average less than 9 yards per catch and 6 yards per target.

                      the dolphins(and most other teams) arent interested in paying a non-top level reciever who averages 6 ypt franchise tag money....and I dont blame them.

                      Which is why I still want to add Kirk to the mix, another true slot guy with great hands and far more speed than Landry. The more we look like what NE throws to, the better.

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                        @tacosman said:

                        jarvis landry carrying a tag doesnt have value. It's fine that we picked him up(it's essentially like we signed him as a free agent that cost late round picks), but this is more a dump on the dolphins part of someone they didnt want to pay the tag(or a new deal) on......

                        jarvis landry off his rookie deal was never going to 'cost' anyone much of anything

                        just simply proves ya can't pay Ndamukong Suh 6 years $114M till 2021. That's just over $19M per year at QB wages. Did they ask Suh to reduce while still trying to lock-up their best offensive weapon? can't pay them all with Suh on the books 

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                        @gumby73 said:

                        just simply proves ya can't pay Ndamukong Suh 6 years $114M till 2021. That's just over $19M per year at QB wages. Did they ask Suh to reduce while still trying to lock-up their best offensive weapon? can't pay them all with Suh on the books 

                        And some guys wanted to pay an above average qb $30+ million a year? Cousins would have been a cap buster a few years down the road when guys like Garrett are coming off their rookie deals....  I'm really happy we don't need to worry about that scenario now. 🙂  

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                          @the-gipper said:

                          And who give a shite what the Dolphins motivations were.   The Browns have now obtained last year NFL leader in receptions.  That is all that matters.

                          Are you going to yipe about the Dolphins motivations...or the money the Browns pay him.... if Landry catches 100 balls for the Browns?

                          sigh....

                          Jarvis Landry last year was targeted 160 times and in those 160 times gained 987 yards.   6.16 yards per target.

                          If landry catches 100 balls for the browns next year and it requires 160+ targets and he barely hits 6 ypc....yeah, I'll still probably gripe.

                          Its not that Landry is a bad player.  And he will obviously help the browns because he is a quality slot guy.  But while things like '100 catches' and 'league leader in receptions' sounds good, he's not a top level reciever in the nfl. top level recievers in the nfl dont average less than 9 yards per catch and 6 yards per target.

                          the dolphins(and most other teams) arent interested in paying a non-top level reciever who averages 6 ypt franchise tag money....and I dont blame them.

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                          @tacosman said:

                          sigh....

                          Jarvis Landry last year was targeted 160 times and in those 160 times gained 987 yards.   6.16 yards per target.

                          If landry catches 100 balls for the browns next year and it requires 160+ targets and he barely hits 6 ypc....yeah, I'll still probably gripe.

                          Its not that Landry is a bad player.  And he will obviously help the browns because he is a quality slot guy.  But while things like '100 catches' and 'league leader in receptions' sounds good, he's not a top level reciever in the nfl. top level recievers in the nfl dont average less than 9 yards per catch and 6 yards per target.

                          the dolphins(and most other teams) arent interested in paying a non-top level reciever who averages 6 ypt franchise tag money....and I dont blame them.

                          Landry has 9 yards per catch... On 2017 with Jay Cutler. With Tannehill, who is not an elite quaterback, he had 9.5 in 2015 and 12.1 in 2016, and he was gaining YPC since his rookie year. 

                          Do you know who has similar stats? Julian Edelman. With Tom Brady throwing at him. 

                          Don't you like to have a Julian Edelman-like player in the Browns?

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                            The Cleveland Browns have announced that there will be no trades today 🙂

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                              @tacosman said:

                              sigh....

                              Jarvis Landry last year was targeted 160 times and in those 160 times gained 987 yards.   6.16 yards per target.

                              If landry catches 100 balls for the browns next year and it requires 160+ targets and he barely hits 6 ypc....yeah, I'll still probably gripe.

                              Its not that Landry is a bad player.  And he will obviously help the browns because he is a quality slot guy.  But while things like '100 catches' and 'league leader in receptions' sounds good, he's not a top level reciever in the nfl. top level recievers in the nfl dont average less than 9 yards per catch and 6 yards per target.

                              the dolphins(and most other teams) arent interested in paying a non-top level reciever who averages 6 ypt franchise tag money....and I dont blame them.

                              Landry has 9 yards per catch... On 2017 with Jay Cutler. With Tannehill, who is not an elite quaterback, he had 9.5 in 2015 and 12.1 in 2016, and he was gaining YPC since his rookie year. 

                              Do you know who has similar stats? Julian Edelman. With Tom Brady throwing at him. 

                              Don't you like to have a Julian Edelman-like player in the Browns?

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                              @nero said:

                              Landry has 9 yards per catch... On 2017 with Jay Cutler. With Tannehill, who is not an elite quaterback, he had 9.5 in 2015 and 12.1 in 2016, and he was gaining YPC since his rookie year. 

                              Do you know who has similar stats? Julian Edelman. With Tom Brady throwing at him. 

                              Don't you like to have a Julian Edelman-like player in the Browns?

                              1) Edelman's advanced stats are somewhat better

                              2) Edelman, for as much as I like him, also isn't someone who is worth franchise tag wide reciever money.  Going into the year next year he will be the third best option in the passing game on that team.  You wouldn't give franchise tag money to the third best option in the passing game on a team

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                                The Cleveland Browns have announced that there will be no trades today 🙂

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                                @darren15 said:

                                The Cleveland Browns have announced that there will be no trades today 🙂

                                Geeeezzzz I was already getting used to this amazing, fast paced drama of wheeling and dealing.......after many years of not wheeling and dealing.

                                GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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                                  @the-gipper said:

                                  And who give a shite what the Dolphins motivations were.   The Browns have now obtained last year NFL leader in receptions.  That is all that matters.

                                  Are you going to yipe about the Dolphins motivations...or the money the Browns pay him.... if Landry catches 100 balls for the Browns?

                                  sigh....

                                  Jarvis Landry last year was targeted 160 times and in those 160 times gained 987 yards.   6.16 yards per target.

                                  If landry catches 100 balls for the browns next year and it requires 160+ targets and he barely hits 6 ypc....yeah, I'll still probably gripe.

                                  Its not that Landry is a bad player.  And he will obviously help the browns because he is a quality slot guy.  But while things like '100 catches' and 'league leader in receptions' sounds good, he's not a top level reciever in the nfl. top level recievers in the nfl dont average less than 9 yards per catch and 6 yards per target.

                                  the dolphins(and most other teams) arent interested in paying a non-top level reciever who averages 6 ypt franchise tag money....and I dont blame them.

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                                  @tacosman said:

                                  sigh....

                                  Jarvis Landry last year was targeted 160 times and in those 160 times gained 987 yards.   6.16 yards per target.

                                  If landry catches 100 balls for the browns next year and it requires 160+ targets and he barely hits 6 ypc....yeah, I'll still probably gripe.

                                  Its not that Landry is a bad player.  And he will obviously help the browns because he is a quality slot guy.  But while things like '100 catches' and 'league leader in receptions' sounds good, he's not a top level reciever in the nfl. top level recievers in the nfl dont average less than 9 yards per catch and 6 yards per target.

                                  the dolphins(and most other teams) arent interested in paying a non-top level reciever who averages 6 ypt franchise tag money....and I dont blame them.

                                  What he is is a reliable pass catcher,   a reliable first down maker.  

                                  Fuyuck, hell no...that is not something the Browns need.  Lets just keep going 3 and out because we do not have a reliable guy to catch those 3rd down passes.   Let's not do anything that....god forbid, might help us control a clock...or matriculate the ball down the field...or win.

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                                    @tacosman said:

                                    sigh....

                                    Jarvis Landry last year was targeted 160 times and in those 160 times gained 987 yards.   6.16 yards per target.

                                    If landry catches 100 balls for the browns next year and it requires 160+ targets and he barely hits 6 ypc....yeah, I'll still probably gripe.

                                    Its not that Landry is a bad player.  And he will obviously help the browns because he is a quality slot guy.  But while things like '100 catches' and 'league leader in receptions' sounds good, he's not a top level reciever in the nfl. top level recievers in the nfl dont average less than 9 yards per catch and 6 yards per target.

                                    the dolphins(and most other teams) arent interested in paying a non-top level reciever who averages 6 ypt franchise tag money....and I dont blame them.

                                    What he is is a reliable pass catcher,   a reliable first down maker.  

                                    Fuyuck, hell no...that is not something the Browns need.  Lets just keep going 3 and out because we do not have a reliable guy to catch those 3rd down passes.   Let's not do anything that....god forbid, might help us control a clock...or matriculate the ball down the field...or win.

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                                    @the-gipper said:

                                    What he is is a reliable pass catcher,   a reliable first down maker.  

                                    Fuyuck, hell no...that is not something the Browns need.  Lets just keep going 3 and out because we do not have a reliable guy to catch those 3rd down passes.   Let's not do anything that....god forbid, might help us control a clock...or matriculate the ball down the field...or win.

                                    Those advanced metrics Taco keeps referring to are what got Sashi ridden out of town, why he though Kenny Britt was a good idea. 6 ypc looks mighty good to me on 3rd and five....   

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                                      As a Vikings fan I want to wish you guys good luck! The Browns have been a dumpster fire and you guys deserve better. 

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                                      As a Vikings fan I want to wish you guys good luck! The Browns have been a dumpster fire and you guys deserve better. 

                                      Go count all of your championship rings, asshole.

                                      Zombo

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                                        @bob-wiley said:

                                        As a Vikings fan I want to wish you guys good luck! The Browns have been a dumpster fire and you guys deserve better. 

                                        Go count all of your championship rings, asshole.

                                        Zombo

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                                        Go count all of your championship rings, pooper.

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                                          I’m an as***** for wishing your team good luck? Did I stumble on to the Eagles’ fans board?

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