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  • If the browns draft Lamar Jackson, they are stupid fools...

  • If the browns draft Lamar Jackson, they are stupid fools...

    @nickers said:

    If the browns draft Lamar Jackson, they are stupid fools...

    And Jackson isn't getting drafted in the top 5. 🙂 My current take NIckers. With the moves Dorsey made, (picking up a WR, and CB) besides Taylor. It looks pretty clear QB #1, and hope Chubb is there at #4. If  it looks like the Colts are going to take him, flip 4 and 3, give Indy the #35. We might not even have to if the Broncos or Jets trade up with the Colts- because they sure as hell aren't doing it to take a defensive player. We'll take Crow's replacement at the top of the second. I have doubts Dorsey would value Saquon over a top edge rusher, they way he looks at running back value. 

  • @nickers said:

    If the browns draft Lamar Jackson, they are stupid fools...

    And Jackson isn't getting drafted in the top 5. 🙂 My current take NIckers. With the moves Dorsey made, (picking up a WR, and CB) besides Taylor. It looks pretty clear QB #1, and hope Chubb is there at #4. If  it looks like the Colts are going to take him, flip 4 and 3, give Indy the #35. We might not even have to if the Broncos or Jets trade up with the Colts- because they sure as hell aren't doing it to take a defensive player. We'll take Crow's replacement at the top of the second. I have doubts Dorsey would value Saquon over a top edge rusher, they way he looks at running back value. 

    @hoorta said:

    And Jackson isn't getting drafted in the top 5. 🙂 My current take NIckers. With the moves Dorsey made, (picking up a WR, and CB) besides Taylor. It looks pretty clear QB #1, and hope Chubb is there at #4. If  it looks like the Colts are going to take him, flip 4 and 3, give Indy the #35. We might not even have to if the Broncos or Jets trade up with the Colts- because they sure as hell aren't doing it to take a defensive player. We'll take Crow's replacement at the top of the second. I have doubts Dorsey would value Saquon over a top edge rusher, they way he looks a running back value. 

    I agree with you. I'm starting to think Mayfield or Allen #1 and then Barkley, Chubb, Minkah, or Ward 4th. I appreciate you checking out the article. I'm not a Browns fan, but I think you guys are set up for a great run with so many picks. For what it's worth, I loved your 3 other trades even though I didn't like the Tyrod deal.

  • I'm liking Chubb at #4 more and more.  Him,  Garrett,  ogunjobi,  Brantley,  Coley,  and whatever other rookie or free agents they get...  now you can get some pressure on the qb 

  • I'm liking Chubb at #4 more and more.  Him,  Garrett,  ogunjobi,  Brantley,  Coley,  and whatever other rookie or free agents they get...  now you can get some pressure on the qb 

    @sd_tom said:

    I'm liking Chubb at #4 more and more.  Him,  Garrett,  ogunjobi,  Brantley,  Coley,  and whatever other rookie or free agents they get...  now you can get some pressure on the qb 

    He'll be gone already.

  • @sd_tom said:

    I'm liking Chubb at #4 more and more.  Him,  Garrett,  ogunjobi,  Brantley,  Coley,  and whatever other rookie or free agents they get...  now you can get some pressure on the qb 

    He'll be gone already.

    @texasag1969 said:

    He'll be gone already.

    To who? If we take QB at 1.... either #2 or #3 will take a QB, or trade away the pick for another team to get a QB, or they'll take Saquon.

  • @texasag1969 said:

    He'll be gone already.

    To who? If we take QB at 1.... either #2 or #3 will take a QB, or trade away the pick for another team to get a QB, or they'll take Saquon.

    @sd_tom said:

    To who? If we take QB at 1.... either #2 or #3 will take a QB, or trade away the pick for another team to get a QB, or they'll take Saquon.

    At this pace this board thinks that roughly 30 players are guaranteed to be gone by the time the Browns are on the clock at #4. 😆

  • What if the plan has Buffalo on the line to trade 21 and 22 and.....for the 4 pick and draft a LT,CB, RB,or LB at 21 & 22

    Things that make you go HMMMMMM!!!

    GO BROWNS!!!

  • @texasag1969 said:

    He'll be gone already.

    To who? If we take QB at 1.... either #2 or #3 will take a QB, or trade away the pick for another team to get a QB, or they'll take Saquon.

    @sd_tom said:

    To who? If we take QB at 1.... either #2 or #3 will take a QB, or trade away the pick for another team to get a QB, or they'll take Saquon.

    @dutch-oven said:

    At this pace this board thinks that roughly 30 players are guaranteed to be gone by the time the Browns are on the clock at #4. 😆

    We will find out if he is gone next Saturday when the real draft starts..... 🙂

  • What if the plan has Buffalo on the line to trade 21 and 22 and.....for the 4 pick and draft a LT,CB, RB,or LB at 21 & 22

    Things that make you go HMMMMMM!!!

    GO BROWNS!!!

    @brownsnmopar said:

    What if the plan has Buffalo on the line to trade 21 and 22

    Can we please stay away from pick #22?

    Odds are either Chubb or Barkley will be there at 4.  (If NY takes a QB or someone trades up for one)

  • If the browns draft Lamar Jackson, they are stupid fools...

    @nickers said:

    If the browns draft Lamar Jackson, they are stupid fools...

    No matter who the Browns draft, they are stupid fools. This is already etched in stone.

  • @nickers said:

    If the browns draft Lamar Jackson, they are stupid fools...

    No matter who the Browns draft, they are stupid fools. This is already etched in stone.

    @ghoolie said:

    No matter who the Browns draft, they are stupid fools. This is already etched in stone.

    Who is 'they'?

  • @nickers said:

    If the browns draft Lamar Jackson, they are stupid fools...

    No matter who the Browns draft, they are stupid fools. This is already etched in stone.

    @ghoolie said:

    No matter who the Browns draft, they are stupid fools. This is already etched in stone.

    As they say in the investment world- and it applies to the Browns, "past performance is no guarantee of future results." Your coffee fetcher seems to be doing OK bringing in an influx of talent, and tossing the dead weight overboard so far. 

  • For anyone curious about the picks that we still have for the draft... 

    Round 1 Pick 1
    Round 1 Pick 4
    Round 2 Pick 1
    Round 2 Pick 3
    Round 2 Pick 32
    Round 4 Pick 14
    Round 5 Pick 22
    Round 6 Pick 1
    Round 7 Pick 1

  • As just a brief comparison:

    Games:   Taylor  58 games  43 starts   Cousins  62 games, 57 starts

    Record as starter:   Taylor  22-20    Cousins 26-30-1  (numbers from pfr....not sure where Taylor's other game went)

    Att/Comps:   Taylor  793/1271    Cousins  1372/2096

    Comp. % :  Taylor 62.4    Cousins 65.5

    Yards:  Taylor  9056   Cousins  16,206

    TDs:  Taylor 51    Cousins  99 

    INT.s:  Taylor  18   Cousins   55

    TD%   Taylor 4.0   Cousins  4.7

    Int%  Taylor  1.4   Cousins 2.6

    YPA   Taylor  7.1   Cousins  7.7

    YPC  Taylor 11.4   Cousins 11.8

    YPG  Taylor 156.1  Cousins 261.4

    Rating  Taylor  91.2  Cousins 93.7

    Sacks  Taylor 129   Cousins  106

    What do these tell us:

    Cousins was in an offense prone more to throwing.     He also took more risks with his throw...given the divergence with the Int. numbers.  Taylor was more likely to eat the ball...given his sack numbers. 

  • @sd_tom said:

    To who? If we take QB at 1.... either #2 or #3 will take a QB, or trade away the pick for another team to get a QB, or they'll take Saquon.

    At this pace this board thinks that roughly 30 players are guaranteed to be gone by the time the Browns are on the clock at #4. 😆

    @dutch-oven said:

    At this pace this board thinks that roughly 30 players are guaranteed to be gone by the time the Browns are on the clock at #4. 😆

    Realistically....it could be 5-6 candidates:    Barkley, Chubb and anyone of the 4 QBs including one the Browns take.

    Who else can you see going in top 3 before Browns choose at #4?

  • @nickers said:

    If the browns draft Lamar Jackson, they are stupid fools...

    No matter who the Browns draft, they are stupid fools. This is already etched in stone.

    @ghoolie said:

    No matter who the Browns draft, they are stupid fools. This is already etched in stone.

    Then its why you are the perfect, symbiotic Browns fan.

  • Browns getting Tyrod is a good move, Browns should draft theirQB for the future. At a minimum Tyrod will serve well as a bridge but just maybe he will prove valuable for th next 2 or 3 years.  Tyrod may not be Brady but he can throw the ball, the Bills gave him no protection and no receivers.  I expect this to change with the Browns and you will be happy to have him.

  • My perspective on Tyrod is a little different than the OP's and I am also a Bills fan that watched every game he played. In the 3 years he started if the team fell behind by 10 points at any point in the game we never came back. He has 1 300 yard passing game in his career and it took OT to get it. TT is a team guy and a hard worker but... Most games he throws for under 200 yards and doesn't see guys running wide open. Landry is a great WR but TT won't be able to utilize him correctly because he rarely throws over the middle and never throws anyone open. He also holds on to the ball longer than any QB in the league causing many many sacks.

    http://www.wgr550.com/articles/opinion/dear-browns-fans

    Luckily for you guys he's just a backup plan for the guy that you will end up drafting. In our case he was "the guy" and he's nothing more than a bridge/backup in reality. 

  • @dutch-oven said:

    At this pace this board thinks that roughly 30 players are guaranteed to be gone by the time the Browns are on the clock at #4. 😆

    Realistically....it could be 5-6 candidates:    Barkley, Chubb and anyone of the 4 QBs including one the Browns take.

    Who else can you see going in top 3 before Browns choose at #4?

    @the-gipper said:

    Realistically....it could be 5-6 candidates:    Barkley, Chubb and anyone of the 4 QBs including one the Browns take.

    Who else can you see going in top 3 before Browns choose at #4?

    Honestly, at this point, there's NO ONE I would guarantee to be gone by the time the Browns are on the board at #4. 

    Gun to my head, I would say Darnold and Chubb.