Carlos Hyde is a Brown
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Fair point. Let me clarify. "I'm already mad about moving too far back and missing out on the best players of the draft."
If we trade back, but not TOO far, I can live with it. Oh, and if we trade back without drafting our QB first, I'll literally go insane.
Your sanity is safe we are drafting a QB at #1 don’t worry.
I’d be happy to go where the bills are now and take Harold Landry if we don’t take Barkley at #4
Your sanity is safe we are drafting a QB at #1 don’t worry.
I’d be happy to go where the bills are now and take Harold Landry if we don’t take Barkley at #4
I could definitely be into that. A CB somewhere in the first would be swell. Getting the bills two first round picks plus some would make that possible.
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I like this move, and it's smart and sensible.
Now, as far as the draft goes, I have this terrible feeling that it's not going to go like ANYBODY thinks. I have these fears that we're going to get cute and screw it all up. Forgive me for my paranoia, but it's not paranoia if it always happens. In fact, I'd literally bet money that we're trading at least one of our first rounders.
And I'm already mad about it.
We have a completely different front office now, so I wouldn't expect the #1 pick to be traded. That #4 pick is going to be nearly as valuable as the #1 pick because it is likely their will be a run on QBs, leaving just 1 top-tier QB of the 4 when pick 4 rolls around. Possible teams that would want to pick a QB: Dolphins at 11, Redskins at 13, Cardinals at 15, Chargers at 17, Bills at 21. If it's the Bills, they will have to give a boatload up to the Browns to move up that high.
We have a completely different front office now, so I wouldn't expect the #1 pick to be traded. That #4 pick is going to be nearly as valuable as the #1 pick because it is likely their will be a run on QBs, leaving just 1 top-tier QB of the 4 when pick 4 rolls around. Possible teams that would want to pick a QB: Dolphins at 11, Redskins at 13, Cardinals at 15, Chargers at 17, Bills at 21. If it's the Bills, they will have to give a boatload up to the Browns to move up that high.
If it's the Bills, I'd cry to move back THAT far. I think that's been our downfall in recent years. Trade back? Sure, fine. But trade back into the 20's? Ehhhhh
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We have a completely different front office now, so I wouldn't expect the #1 pick to be traded. That #4 pick is going to be nearly as valuable as the #1 pick because it is likely their will be a run on QBs, leaving just 1 top-tier QB of the 4 when pick 4 rolls around. Possible teams that would want to pick a QB: Dolphins at 11, Redskins at 13, Cardinals at 15, Chargers at 17, Bills at 21. If it's the Bills, they will have to give a boatload up to the Browns to move up that high.
If it's the Bills, I'd cry to move back THAT far. I think that's been our downfall in recent years. Trade back? Sure, fine. But trade back into the 20's? Ehhhhh
If it's the Bills, I'd cry to move back THAT far. I think that's been our downfall in recent years. Trade back? Sure, fine. But trade back into the 20's? Ehhhhh
They are at #12 now after a trade with Cinci
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We have a completely different front office now, so I wouldn't expect the #1 pick to be traded. That #4 pick is going to be nearly as valuable as the #1 pick because it is likely their will be a run on QBs, leaving just 1 top-tier QB of the 4 when pick 4 rolls around. Possible teams that would want to pick a QB: Dolphins at 11, Redskins at 13, Cardinals at 15, Chargers at 17, Bills at 21. If it's the Bills, they will have to give a boatload up to the Browns to move up that high.
If it's the Bills, I'd cry to move back THAT far. I think that's been our downfall in recent years. Trade back? Sure, fine. But trade back into the 20's? Ehhhhh
If it's the Bills, I'd cry to move back THAT far. I think that's been our downfall in recent years. Trade back? Sure, fine. But trade back into the 20's? Ehhhhh
Bills have the 12 and 22 picks.
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Great pickup!
We basically get a better version of Crowell.Now we can go QB #1, BPA #4, or trade with Buffalo and get picks #12 and #22. I'd like to see us take a DB and an OL if we do that
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"I hear a trade a-comin, rollin round the bend,
and I ain't seen the sunshine, since I don't know when"...
but we're goin to the playoffs, that is plain to see....
and when we start the season. opponents will be in misery......
"sigh".
great moves - this one surprised me. again.
Hyde can slam a red zone td through the middle.
The Browns fo knows Ohio State has a football team !!!
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Initially I wasn't for Hyde, then saw he missed only two games in the last 2 years. All on board bringing our Bucks home!
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I wouldn't count on the bills waiting until #4. I think they are going up to #2 or #3 with the NYG or Colts to ensure they get who they want. Especially if the Giants take Barkley at #2, i think it is done deal. If that is the case, then the bills get the second best qb (or "their guy") and don't have to worry. IMOP, if the BIlls offered the giants or colts #12, 22, 53 they would take it in a heart beat. Each team needs so much help and then they would be able to address those issues. This makes #4 very interesting. I'm not sure it will hold as much value as you might think. At this point in the draft, teams know the browns aren't taking a qb and with the Jets signing both McCown and Bridgewater, i'm not sure they are going to take a round 1 qb either; Unless someone falls to them. In addition, it would not surprise me if the broncos wait on a qb as well with the signing of Keenum and address the offensive line. Whom else in the draft NEEDS a qb? Miami, AZ, NO, CIN, NYG, LAC all could draft a qb because their qbs are getting older but they don't necessarily need to take one in the first round.
In this scenario I could see the first few picks looking like this:
1) Browns: Darnold
2) Bills: Rosen
3.) Colts: Chubb
4.) Browns: Fitzpatrick
5.) Jets: Barkley
6.) Broncos: Nelson
7.) TB: James
8:) Bears: Ward
9:) 49ers: Tremaine Edwards
10.) AZ with a trade-up: Allen
11.) Miami: Mayfield
12.) Giants: Connor Williams
What will be interesting is what the browns would do at #4 if Chubb, Barkley and Fitzpatrick are on the board? I went with Fitzpatrick because with the signing of Hyde, I think they wait until the second round to take a rb. Plus, Fitzpatrick offers such versatility in the backfield, that he can play wherever. I believe Chubb would be the pick if he is sitting there, however. Garrett on one side and chubb on the other...Have fun Andy, Ben and Joe!
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Someone go round and check on PoG because we know what this means (if we didn’t already)
Probably means we are trading out of 4 with The Bills for 12 and 22
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Not sure about Fitzpatrick after the Randall trade, he's going to play FS
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Hyde is an upgrade to Ifalldown Crowell but really JAG. Yesterday's FA performance by the Browns was underwhelming to say the least. They really Sheet the bed with perhaps the exception of Hubbard.
Hyde is an upgrade to Ifalldown Crowell but really JAG. Yesterday's FA performance by the Browns was underwhelming to say the least. They really Sheet the bed with perhaps the exception of Hubbard.
how did the browns sheet the bed? FA needs both the player and FO to agree on contracts. Just because the browns have money doesn't mean 1) they should overpay for someone 2) that player x wants to play for the browns 3) the browns actually like the player as much as the media does 4) winning in FA doesn't mean winning on the field
I think the browns have added talent, spent some money but haven't blown away all their money. They are adding pieces.
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Not sure about Fitzpatrick after the Randall trade, he's going to play FS
Not sure about Fitzpatrick after the Randall trade, he's going to play FS
But that's the beauty of having Randall and Fitzpatrick. They are interchangeable. Think about that on a Greg WIlliams defensive front that loves to throw crazy blitzes from all over the place. The browns would have the ability to flip corners/safeties from all directions. It's modernizing today's nfl defenses that are seeing this Arial assault from offenses
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Hyde is an upgrade to Ifalldown Crowell but really JAG. Yesterday's FA performance by the Browns was underwhelming to say the least. They really Sheet the bed with perhaps the exception of Hubbard.
how did the browns sheet the bed? FA needs both the player and FO to agree on contracts. Just because the browns have money doesn't mean 1) they should overpay for someone 2) that player x wants to play for the browns 3) the browns actually like the player as much as the media does 4) winning in FA doesn't mean winning on the field
I think the browns have added talent, spent some money but haven't blown away all their money. They are adding pieces.
how did the browns sheet the bed? FA needs both the player and FO to agree on contracts. Just because the browns have money doesn't mean 1) they should overpay for someone 2) that player x wants to play for the browns 3) the browns actually like the player as much as the media does 4) winning in FA doesn't mean winning on the field
I think the browns have added talent, spent some money but haven't blown away all their money. They are adding pieces.
First throw the budgeting the money out the window. They themselves have said they are going to spend away. To assume they aren't going to overpay is simply stupid. A team that with our record is going to overpay for talent plain and simple. As far as not being our fault players couldn't agree to our offers, cowpoop. It's our FO's job to SELL our offer and team. Lastly "winning in free agency doesn't mean winning on the field" , great saying and SOMETIMES true. Overall it's one of those silly pictures that get posted on corporate walls. But hey either way GO BROWNS!! Let's hope they finish FA strong and kill the draft.
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I think this officially fixes all of the wholes on our offense. Taylor, Hyde, Landry, Hubbard fill all of the immediate needs and we can draft player available and develop them.
We still need an interior defensive lineman and a CB but I really like what we are putting together.
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Finally a move I really like.
WSS
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Hyde is a legit RB, and never got the credit he deserved. He's been legit in the NFL and has a lot of power and burst like Blount. While i'm happy with this signing, Zombo is right, it all but guarantees we won't take Barkley. Now remains only what we do with the #4 pick.
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Someone go round and check on PoG because we know what this means (if we didn’t already)
Probably means we are trading out of 4 with The Bills for 12 and 22
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We have a completely different front office now, so I wouldn't expect the #1 pick to be traded. That #4 pick is going to be nearly as valuable as the #1 pick because it is likely their will be a run on QBs, leaving just 1 top-tier QB of the 4 when pick 4 rolls around. Possible teams that would want to pick a QB: Dolphins at 11, Redskins at 13, Cardinals at 15, Chargers at 17, Bills at 21. If it's the Bills, they will have to give a boatload up to the Browns to move up that high.
If it's the Bills, I'd cry to move back THAT far. I think that's been our downfall in recent years. Trade back? Sure, fine. But trade back into the 20's? Ehhhhh
If it's the Bills, I'd cry to move back THAT far. I think that's been our downfall in recent years. Trade back? Sure, fine. But trade back into the 20's? Ehhhhh
The Bills now have the #12 pick......so, how does that change your thinking?
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