Barkley at #1?
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There will be NO drafting of Barkley in the top 5 picks. We need to get over that. No sane team drafts a RB in the top 5 and really not much in the top 10, although 6-10 is more realistic. RB's don't win games. He's a great athlete and showed well and will have a very good career. But he's not going in the top 5.
#1 will be a trade or a defensive player (Fitzpatrick or Chubb)
#4 will be a trade or a QB. (there are 4 QB's and at least one will be available here)
There will be NO drafting of Barkley in the top 5 picks. We need to get over that. No sane team drafts a RB in the top 5 and really not much in the top 10, although 6-10 is more realistic. RB's don't win games. He's a great athlete and showed well and will have a very good career. But he's not going in the top 5.
#1 will be a trade or a defensive player (Fitzpatrick or Chubb)
#4 will be a trade or a QB. (there are 4 QB's and at least one will be available here)
I won't say you're nuts, but if you like a quarterback enough (and I agree with our former coach Eric Mangini) to take him at #4, you don't mess around and just take him #1. With the Bills apparently having the hots to trade into the top 3, Chubb may well be there at #4. and FWIW, it would take the Mother of all Draft pick hauls for Dorsey to trade out of #1.
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4 - Fournette - playoffs
4 - Zeke Elliot - playoffs
5 - Gino Bernard - playoffs
5 - Darren McFadden
2 - Reggie Bush - playoffs
2 - Ronnie Brown
2 - L Tomlinson - playoffs HOF
5 - Jamal Lewis - playoffs
4 - Edge James - playoffs
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4 - Fournette - playoffs
4 - Zeke Elliot - playoffs
5 - Gino Bernard - playoffs
5 - Darren McFadden
2 - Reggie Bush - playoffs
2 - Ronnie Brown
2 - L Tomlinson - playoffs HOF
5 - Jamal Lewis - playoffs
4 - Edge James - playoffs
How many SB's were they in?..... 2? Lewis/Bush
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
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4 - Fournette - playoffs
4 - Zeke Elliot - playoffs
5 - Gino Bernard - playoffs
5 - Darren McFadden
2 - Reggie Bush - playoffs
2 - Ronnie Brown
2 - L Tomlinson - playoffs HOF
5 - Jamal Lewis - playoffs
4 - Edge James - playoffs
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4 - Fournette - playoffs
4 - Zeke Elliot - playoffs
5 - Gino Bernard - playoffs
5 - Darren McFadden
2 - Reggie Bush - playoffs
2 - Ronnie Brown
2 - L Tomlinson - playoffs HOF
5 - Jamal Lewis - playoffs
4 - Edge James - playoffs
And damn few Super Bowl wins out of that group. Colts won after James left, and Lewis can thank the other Lewis (Ray) and his defensive pals for his. Just getting to the playoffs isn't the ultimate goal. Ask the Bengals or Vikings about that.
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There will be NO drafting of Barkley in the top 5 picks. We need to get over that. No sane team drafts a RB in the top 5 and really not much in the top 10, although 6-10 is more realistic. RB's don't win games. He's a great athlete and showed well and will have a very good career. But he's not going in the top 5.
#1 will be a trade or a defensive player (Fitzpatrick or Chubb)
#4 will be a trade or a QB. (there are 4 QB's and at least one will be available here)
There will be NO drafting of Barkley in the top 5 picks. We need to get over that. No sane team drafts a RB in the top 5 and really not much in the top 10, although 6-10 is more realistic. RB's don't win games. He's a great athlete and showed well and will have a very good career. But he's not going in the top 5.
#1 will be a trade or a defensive player (Fitzpatrick or Chubb)
#4 will be a trade or a QB. (there are 4 QB's and at least one will be available here)
If this is the new CLE Browns, then be the NEW CLE Browns. No more trade down to 22 to pick a QB. No more cuteness at all. Pick your top QB at one and take the BPA, which will be a blue chip player, at four. End of story.
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There will be NO drafting of Barkley in the top 5 picks. We need to get over that. No sane team drafts a RB in the top 5 and really not much in the top 10, although 6-10 is more realistic. RB's don't win games. He's a great athlete and showed well and will have a very good career. But he's not going in the top 5.
#1 will be a trade or a defensive player (Fitzpatrick or Chubb)
#4 will be a trade or a QB. (there are 4 QB's and at least one will be available here)
If this is the new CLE Browns, then be the NEW CLE Browns. No more trade down to 22 to pick a QB. No more cuteness at all. Pick your top QB at one and take the BPA, which will be a blue chip player, at four. End of story.
If this is the new CLE Browns, then be the NEW CLE Browns. No more trade down to 22 to pick a QB. No more cuteness at all. Pick your top QB at one and take the BPA, which will be a blue chip player, at four. End of story.
It is not a matter of trading down being the issue though. It is simply we never pick good players when we do. If they feel none of the QB's is a number 1 you trade down. Same at 4. The key is regardless of where you pick you have to hit on the picks.
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If this is the new CLE Browns, then be the NEW CLE Browns. No more trade down to 22 to pick a QB. No more cuteness at all. Pick your top QB at one and take the BPA, which will be a blue chip player, at four. End of story.
It is not a matter of trading down being the issue though. It is simply we never pick good players when we do. If they feel none of the QB's is a number 1 you trade down. Same at 4. The key is regardless of where you pick you have to hit on the picks.
It is not a matter of trading down being the issue though. It is simply we never pick good players when we do. If they feel none of the QB's is a number 1 you trade down. Same at 4. The key is regardless of where you pick you have to hit on the picks.
Obviously. You also have to realize that our drafts for the past 6-8 years have been a complete broken record. Stop trading down and pick BPA. Stop trying to be cute.
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4 - Fournette - playoffs
4 - Zeke Elliot - playoffs
5 - Gino Bernard - playoffs
5 - Darren McFadden
2 - Reggie Bush - playoffs
2 - Ronnie Brown
2 - L Tomlinson - playoffs HOF
5 - Jamal Lewis - playoffs
4 - Edge James - playoffs
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4 - Fournette - playoffs
4 - Zeke Elliot - playoffs
5 - Gino Bernard - playoffs
5 - Darren McFadden
2 - Reggie Bush - playoffs
2 - Ronnie Brown
2 - L Tomlinson - playoffs HOF
5 - Jamal Lewis - playoffs
4 - Edge James - playoffs
There are currently only 6 starting running backs in the NFL that were picked in the first round. And that's a great list and all but not complete without the busts picked up at running back in the top 5.
Please excuse my ignorance but who is gino Bernard.
Ok I looked it up and it was obviously just a typo as you meant gio Bernard cause he was picked 5th in the 2ND ROUND of the draft.
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It is not a matter of trading down being the issue though. It is simply we never pick good players when we do. If they feel none of the QB's is a number 1 you trade down. Same at 4. The key is regardless of where you pick you have to hit on the picks.
Obviously. You also have to realize that our drafts for the past 6-8 years have been a complete broken record. Stop trading down and pick BPA. Stop trying to be cute.
Obviously. You also have to realize that our drafts for the past 6-8 years have been a complete broken record. Stop trading down and pick BPA. Stop trying to be cute.
I am totally fine with that, lets just make sure for once is truly is best pick available right? I think we have pretty competent guys to judge that for once. Time will tell.
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I still say how a player performs depends on how good or great the team is around him. You can put the best RB on this team last year and his stats won't be as good as it was on the Pats or Eagles. Or even any playoff team for that matter. Hopefully we've improved to the point where the RB we choose will add some value to this team, doesn't matter who he is. I still think if Tim Couch went to a better team (with WRs/TEs to through to and an Oline), he'd probably be a stud today.
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Today? He was drafted in 1999. He would be a QB for 19 years?
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970. -
Carlos Hyde does not mean anything in relation to drafting Barkley, just as Randall and Currie have nothing to do with us drafting a DB/S... or taking Taylor excludes us from taking a QB in the first round.
The Browns are simply filling all of the NEEDS in FA that will allow them to go BPA in the draft and maximize our draft capital. Barkley is the Best Player and playmaker and that's who we'll take #1. No question.
The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain- -
Carlos Hyde does not mean anything in relation to drafting Barkley, just as Randall and Currie have nothing to do with us drafting a DB/S... or taking Taylor excludes us from taking a QB in the first round.
The Browns are simply filling all of the NEEDS in FA that will allow them to go BPA in the draft and maximize our draft capital. Barkley is the Best Player and playmaker and that's who we'll take #1. No question.
Carlos Hyde does not mean anything in relation to drafting Barkley, just as Randall and Currie have nothing to do with us drafting a DB/S... or taking Taylor excludes us from taking a QB in the first round.
The Browns are simply filling all of the NEEDS in FA that will allow them to go BPA in the draft and maximize our draft capital. Barkley is the Best Player and playmaker and that's who we'll take #1. No question.
You seem so sure, and that's fine, but why don't you take one of these gentlemen up on their bet?
I'll make you a bet, and it doesn't depend on ANYONE but Barkley. The GMs dont have to do what you want, doesn't have to be on a certain team, etc. I'll bet you a name change on here (I'm not a gambler) that Barkley will NOT be the best player ever like you have said. And since you say he is the best thing you have ever seen, and when he wasn't amazing it wasn't his fault, and was STILL the best, then you should have no issue with this. So he can go to Cleveland, Giants, Patriots, whoever, he will NOT be best ever.
So we got a bet?
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Carlos Hyde does not mean anything in relation to drafting Barkley, just as Randall and Currie have nothing to do with us drafting a DB/S... or taking Taylor excludes us from taking a QB in the first round.
The Browns are simply filling all of the NEEDS in FA that will allow them to go BPA in the draft and maximize our draft capital. Barkley is the Best Player and playmaker and that's who we'll take #1. No question.
You seem so sure, and that's fine, but why don't you take one of these gentlemen up on their bet?
I'll make you a bet, and it doesn't depend on ANYONE but Barkley. The GMs dont have to do what you want, doesn't have to be on a certain team, etc. I'll bet you a name change on here (I'm not a gambler) that Barkley will NOT be the best player ever like you have said. And since you say he is the best thing you have ever seen, and when he wasn't amazing it wasn't his fault, and was STILL the best, then you should have no issue with this. So he can go to Cleveland, Giants, Patriots, whoever, he will NOT be best ever.
So we got a bet?
You seem so sure, and that's fine, but why don't you take one of these gentlemen up on their bet?
I'll make you a bet, and it doesn't depend on ANYONE but Barkley. The GMs dont have to do what you want, doesn't have to be on a certain team, etc. I'll bet you a name change on here (I'm not a gambler) that Barkley will NOT be the best player ever like you have said. And since you say he is the best thing you have ever seen, and when he wasn't amazing it wasn't his fault, and was STILL the best, then you should have no issue with this. So he can go to Cleveland, Giants, Patriots, whoever, he will NOT be best ever.
So we got a bet?
If you remember- Po still had hopes for Richardson after he was cut not only by the Colts, but the Raiders too. Based on us picking up Hyde, and Dorsey's track record of not drafting running backs high, I'll put the odds of the Browns drafting Barkley at #1 (zero) and #4 (5%).
For the record, I bet Po a set of my Browns tickets on TR's potential production with the Colts- needless to say he didn't even come close to the bet. I didn't have the heart to collect- too easy.
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Carlos Hyde does not mean anything in relation to drafting Barkley, just as Randall and Currie have nothing to do with us drafting a DB/S... or taking Taylor excludes us from taking a QB in the first round.
The Browns are simply filling all of the NEEDS in FA that will allow them to go BPA in the draft and maximize our draft capital. Barkley is the Best Player and playmaker and that's who we'll take #1. No question.
You seem so sure, and that's fine, but why don't you take one of these gentlemen up on their bet?
I'll make you a bet, and it doesn't depend on ANYONE but Barkley. The GMs dont have to do what you want, doesn't have to be on a certain team, etc. I'll bet you a name change on here (I'm not a gambler) that Barkley will NOT be the best player ever like you have said. And since you say he is the best thing you have ever seen, and when he wasn't amazing it wasn't his fault, and was STILL the best, then you should have no issue with this. So he can go to Cleveland, Giants, Patriots, whoever, he will NOT be best ever.
So we got a bet?
You seem so sure, and that's fine, but why don't you take one of these gentlemen up on their bet?
The fact that he won't even acknowledge the bet offers should tell everyone everything you need to know about PoG.
He's a troll. Sure, not a troll of pathetic Ghoolie standards, but a troll nevertheless. He drones on about the same topic (Joe Haden being released, Kevin Hogan's awesomeness, the legend that is Saquon Barkley) just to get attention, to stir things up.
But hell, once again PoG, I'll bet you $100 that Barkley is not taken #1 overall by the Browns.
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Today? He was drafted in 1999. He would be a QB for 19 years?
Today? He was drafted in 1999. He would be a QB for 19 years?
Tom Brady????
Obviously he wouldn't that good and would more than likely be retired today, but his stats would have been much better. He would be remembered as a quality QB.
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Carlos Hyde does not mean anything in relation to drafting Barkley, just as Randall and Currie have nothing to do with us drafting a DB/S... or taking Taylor excludes us from taking a QB in the first round.
The Browns are simply filling all of the NEEDS in FA that will allow them to go BPA in the draft and maximize our draft capital. Barkley is the Best Player and playmaker and that's who we'll take #1. No question.
You seem so sure, and that's fine, but why don't you take one of these gentlemen up on their bet?
I'll make you a bet, and it doesn't depend on ANYONE but Barkley. The GMs dont have to do what you want, doesn't have to be on a certain team, etc. I'll bet you a name change on here (I'm not a gambler) that Barkley will NOT be the best player ever like you have said. And since you say he is the best thing you have ever seen, and when he wasn't amazing it wasn't his fault, and was STILL the best, then you should have no issue with this. So he can go to Cleveland, Giants, Patriots, whoever, he will NOT be best ever.
So we got a bet?
You seem so sure, and that's fine, but why don't you take one of these gentlemen up on their bet?
I'll bet you a name change on here (I'm not a gambler) that Barkley will NOT be the best player ever like you have said.
So we got a bet?
In Po's defense, no one can see the future and thus cannot tell who will be the best player ever. I'm not a huge Poe fan, but this is ridiculous.
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4 - Fournette - playoffs
4 - Zeke Elliot - playoffs
5 - Gino Bernard - playoffs
5 - Darren McFadden
2 - Reggie Bush - playoffs
2 - Ronnie Brown
2 - L Tomlinson - playoffs HOF
5 - Jamal Lewis - playoffs
4 - Edge James - playoffs
How many SB's were they in?..... 2? Lewis/Bush
How many SB's were they in?..... 2? Lewis/Bush
If you are talking about RBs taken in the top 5 of the draft since 2000 being in the Super Bowl....then the number is I think 3: Bush, Lewis, James
But if you ask....how many QBs taken since 2000 in the top 5 of the draft....then it is the same number: 3: Eli, Newton, Ryan.
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Carlos Hyde does not mean anything in relation to drafting Barkley, just as Randall and Currie have nothing to do with us drafting a DB/S... or taking Taylor excludes us from taking a QB in the first round.
The Browns are simply filling all of the NEEDS in FA that will allow them to go BPA in the draft and maximize our draft capital. Barkley is the Best Player and playmaker and that's who we'll take #1. No question.
Carlos Hyde does not mean anything in relation to drafting Barkley, just as Randall and Currie have nothing to do with us drafting a DB/S... or taking Taylor excludes us from taking a QB in the first round.
The Browns are simply filling all of the NEEDS in FA that will allow them to go BPA in the draft and maximize our draft capital. Barkley is the Best Player and playmaker and that's who we'll take #1. No question.
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4 - Fournette - playoffs
4 - Zeke Elliot - playoffs
5 - Gino Bernard - playoffs
5 - Darren McFadden
2 - Reggie Bush - playoffs
2 - Ronnie Brown
2 - L Tomlinson - playoffs HOF
5 - Jamal Lewis - playoffs
4 - Edge James - playoffs
There are currently only 6 starting running backs in the NFL that were picked in the first round. And that's a great list and all but not complete without the busts picked up at running back in the top 5.
Please excuse my ignorance but who is gino Bernard.
Ok I looked it up and it was obviously just a typo as you meant gio Bernard cause he was picked 5th in the 2ND ROUND of the draft.
There are currently only 6 starting running backs in the NFL that were picked in the first round. And that's a great list and all but not complete without the busts picked up at running back in the top 5.
Please excuse my ignorance but who is gino Bernard.
Ok I looked it up and it was obviously just a typo as you meant gio Bernard cause he was picked 5th in the 2ND ROUND of the draft.
My list is only top 5 since the Browns have picks 1 and 4.
If you want me to include all top 5 RBs then all top 5 QBs should also be included.
Just because Trent Richardson was picked that high does not mean that he should have gone there.
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