Barkley at #1?
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Carlos Hyde does not mean anything in relation to drafting Barkley, just as Randall and Currie have nothing to do with us drafting a DB/S... or taking Taylor excludes us from taking a QB in the first round.
The Browns are simply filling all of the NEEDS in FA that will allow them to go BPA in the draft and maximize our draft capital. Barkley is the Best Player and playmaker and that's who we'll take #1. No question.
You seem so sure, and that's fine, but why don't you take one of these gentlemen up on their bet?
I'll make you a bet, and it doesn't depend on ANYONE but Barkley. The GMs dont have to do what you want, doesn't have to be on a certain team, etc. I'll bet you a name change on here (I'm not a gambler) that Barkley will NOT be the best player ever like you have said. And since you say he is the best thing you have ever seen, and when he wasn't amazing it wasn't his fault, and was STILL the best, then you should have no issue with this. So he can go to Cleveland, Giants, Patriots, whoever, he will NOT be best ever.
So we got a bet?
You seem so sure, and that's fine, but why don't you take one of these gentlemen up on their bet?
I'll bet you a name change on here (I'm not a gambler) that Barkley will NOT be the best player ever like you have said.
So we got a bet?
In Po's defense, no one can see the future and thus cannot tell who will be the best player ever. I'm not a huge Poe fan, but this is ridiculous.
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4 - Fournette - playoffs
4 - Zeke Elliot - playoffs
5 - Gino Bernard - playoffs
5 - Darren McFadden
2 - Reggie Bush - playoffs
2 - Ronnie Brown
2 - L Tomlinson - playoffs HOF
5 - Jamal Lewis - playoffs
4 - Edge James - playoffs
How many SB's were they in?..... 2? Lewis/Bush
How many SB's were they in?..... 2? Lewis/Bush
If you are talking about RBs taken in the top 5 of the draft since 2000 being in the Super Bowl....then the number is I think 3: Bush, Lewis, James
But if you ask....how many QBs taken since 2000 in the top 5 of the draft....then it is the same number: 3: Eli, Newton, Ryan.
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Carlos Hyde does not mean anything in relation to drafting Barkley, just as Randall and Currie have nothing to do with us drafting a DB/S... or taking Taylor excludes us from taking a QB in the first round.
The Browns are simply filling all of the NEEDS in FA that will allow them to go BPA in the draft and maximize our draft capital. Barkley is the Best Player and playmaker and that's who we'll take #1. No question.
Carlos Hyde does not mean anything in relation to drafting Barkley, just as Randall and Currie have nothing to do with us drafting a DB/S... or taking Taylor excludes us from taking a QB in the first round.
The Browns are simply filling all of the NEEDS in FA that will allow them to go BPA in the draft and maximize our draft capital. Barkley is the Best Player and playmaker and that's who we'll take #1. No question.
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4 - Fournette - playoffs
4 - Zeke Elliot - playoffs
5 - Gino Bernard - playoffs
5 - Darren McFadden
2 - Reggie Bush - playoffs
2 - Ronnie Brown
2 - L Tomlinson - playoffs HOF
5 - Jamal Lewis - playoffs
4 - Edge James - playoffs
There are currently only 6 starting running backs in the NFL that were picked in the first round. And that's a great list and all but not complete without the busts picked up at running back in the top 5.
Please excuse my ignorance but who is gino Bernard.
Ok I looked it up and it was obviously just a typo as you meant gio Bernard cause he was picked 5th in the 2ND ROUND of the draft.
There are currently only 6 starting running backs in the NFL that were picked in the first round. And that's a great list and all but not complete without the busts picked up at running back in the top 5.
Please excuse my ignorance but who is gino Bernard.
Ok I looked it up and it was obviously just a typo as you meant gio Bernard cause he was picked 5th in the 2ND ROUND of the draft.
My list is only top 5 since the Browns have picks 1 and 4.
If you want me to include all top 5 RBs then all top 5 QBs should also be included.
Just because Trent Richardson was picked that high does not mean that he should have gone there.
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There are currently only 6 starting running backs in the NFL that were picked in the first round. And that's a great list and all but not complete without the busts picked up at running back in the top 5.
Please excuse my ignorance but who is gino Bernard.
Ok I looked it up and it was obviously just a typo as you meant gio Bernard cause he was picked 5th in the 2ND ROUND of the draft.
My list is only top 5 since the Browns have picks 1 and 4.
If you want me to include all top 5 RBs then all top 5 QBs should also be included.
Just because Trent Richardson was picked that high does not mean that he should have gone there.
My list is only top 5 since the Browns have picks 1 and 4.
If you want me to include all top 5 RBs then all top 5 QBs should also be included.
Just because Trent Richardson was picked that high does not mean that he should have gone there.
I just did that. But, if you want the full list, here it is:
Drafted Players
Rk Year Rnd Pick Pos DrAge Tm From To AP1 PB St CarAV G GS QBrec Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD College/Univ 1 2017 1 2 Mitch Trubisky QB 23 CHI 2017 2017 0 0 1 7 12 12 4-8-0 196 330 2193 7 7 41 248 2 North Carolina College Stats 2 2016 1 1 Jared Goff QB 21 LAR 2016 2017 0 1 1 13 22 22 11-11-0 408 682 4893 33 14 36 67 2 California College Stats 3 2016 1 2 Carson Wentz QB 23 PHI 2016 2017 0 1 2 24 29 29 18-11-0 644 1047 7078 49 21 110 449 2 North Dakota St. College Stats 4 2015 1 1 Jameis Winston QB 21 TAM 2015 2017 0 1 3 33 45 45 18-27-0 939 1544 11636 69 44 140 513 8 Florida St. College Stats 5 2015 1 2 Marcus Mariota QB 21 TEN 2015 2017 0 0 3 33 42 42 20-22-0 787 1274 9476 58 34 154 913 9 Oregon College Stats 6 2014 1 3 Blake Bortles QB 22 JAX 2014 2017 0 0 4 40 62 61 21-40-0 1318 2229 14928 90 64 223 1410 7 Central Florida College Stats 7 2012 1 1 Andrew Luck QB 22 IND 2012 2016 0 3 4 59 70 70 43-27-0 1570 2651 19078 132 68 286 1442 14 Stanford College Stats 8 2012 1 2 Robert Griffin QB 22 WAS 2012 2016 0 1 2 35 42 40 15-25-0 766 1210 8983 42 26 275 1670 10 Baylor College Stats 9 2011 1 1 Cam Newton QB 22 CAR 2011 2017 1 3 7 95 109 108 62-45-1 2001 3420 25074 158 94 828 4320 54 Auburn College Stats 10 2010 1 1 Sam Bradford QB 22 STL 2010 2017 0 0 5 43 80 80 34-45-1 1805 2887 19049 101 57 144 333 2 Oklahoma College Stats 11 2009 1 1 Matthew Stafford QB 21 DET 2009 2017 0 1 8 85 125 125 60-65-0 3005 4850 34749 216 118 271 949 14 Georgia College Stats 12 2009 1 5 Mark Sanchez QB 22 NYJ 2009 2016 0 0 5 34 77 72 37-35-0 1295 2285 15219 86 86 169 449 13 USC College Stats 13 2008 1 3 Matt Ryan QB 23 ATL 2008 2017 1 4 10 120 158 158 95-63-0 3630 5593 41796 260 126 351 1023 5 Boston Col. College Stats 14 2007 1 1 JaMarcus Russell QB 22 OAK 2007 2009 0 0 2 6 31 25 7-18-0 354 680 4083 18 23 40 175 1 LSU College Stats 15 2006 1 3 Vince Young QB 23 TEN 2006 2011 0 2 4 33 60 50 31-19-0 755 1304 8964 46 51 282 1459 12 Texas College Stats 16 2005 1 1 Alex Smith QB 21 SFO 2005 2017 0 3 10 93 156 151 88-62-1 2877 4613 31888 183 96 529 2433 14 Utah College Stats 17 2004 1 1 Eli Manning QB 23 SDG 2004 2017 0 4 13 112 216 214 111-103-0 4424 7396 51682 339 228 296 540 6 Mississippi College Stats 18 2004 1 4 Philip Rivers QB 22 NYG 2004 2017 0 7 12 134 196 192 106-86-0 4171 6492 50348 342 166 335 573 3 North Carolina St. College Stats 19 2003 1 1 Carson Palmer QB 23 CIN 2004 2017 0 3 11 108 182 181 92-88-1 3941 6307 46247 294 187 301 474 8 USC College Stats 20 2002 1 1 David Carr QB 23 HOU 2002 2012 0 0 5 44 94 79 23-56-0 1353 2267 14452 65 71 305 1328 9 Fresno St. College Stats 21 2002 1 3 Joey Harrington QB 23 DET 2002 2007 0 0 6 30 81 76 26-50-0 1424 2538 14693 79 85 142 402 0 Oregon College Stats 22 2001 1 1 Michael Vick QB 21 ATL 2001 2015 0 4 7 93 143 115 61-51-1 1807 3217 22464 133 88 873 6109 36 Virginia Tech College Stats -
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4 - Fournette - playoffs
4 - Zeke Elliot - playoffs
5 - Gino Bernard - playoffs
5 - Darren McFadden
2 - Reggie Bush - playoffs
2 - Ronnie Brown
2 - L Tomlinson - playoffs HOF
5 - Jamal Lewis - playoffs
4 - Edge James - playoffs
And damn few Super Bowl wins out of that group. Colts won after James left, and Lewis can thank the other Lewis (Ray) and his defensive pals for his. Just getting to the playoffs isn't the ultimate goal. Ask the Bengals or Vikings about that.
And damn few Super Bowl wins out of that group. Colts won after James left, and Lewis can thank the other Lewis (Ray) and his defensive pals for his. Just getting to the playoffs isn't the ultimate goal. Ask the Bengals or Vikings about that.
Cmon Man.
There have been only 52 Super Bowl winning RBs and some guys have won more than once.
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My list is only top 5 since the Browns have picks 1 and 4.
If you want me to include all top 5 RBs then all top 5 QBs should also be included.
Just because Trent Richardson was picked that high does not mean that he should have gone there.
I just did that. But, if you want the full list, here it is:
Drafted Players
Rk Year Rnd Pick Pos DrAge Tm From To AP1 PB St CarAV G GS QBrec Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD College/Univ 1 2017 1 2 Mitch Trubisky QB 23 CHI 2017 2017 0 0 1 7 12 12 4-8-0 196 330 2193 7 7 41 248 2 North Carolina College Stats 2 2016 1 1 Jared Goff QB 21 LAR 2016 2017 0 1 1 13 22 22 11-11-0 408 682 4893 33 14 36 67 2 California College Stats 3 2016 1 2 Carson Wentz QB 23 PHI 2016 2017 0 1 2 24 29 29 18-11-0 644 1047 7078 49 21 110 449 2 North Dakota St. College Stats 4 2015 1 1 Jameis Winston QB 21 TAM 2015 2017 0 1 3 33 45 45 18-27-0 939 1544 11636 69 44 140 513 8 Florida St. College Stats 5 2015 1 2 Marcus Mariota QB 21 TEN 2015 2017 0 0 3 33 42 42 20-22-0 787 1274 9476 58 34 154 913 9 Oregon College Stats 6 2014 1 3 Blake Bortles QB 22 JAX 2014 2017 0 0 4 40 62 61 21-40-0 1318 2229 14928 90 64 223 1410 7 Central Florida College Stats 7 2012 1 1 Andrew Luck QB 22 IND 2012 2016 0 3 4 59 70 70 43-27-0 1570 2651 19078 132 68 286 1442 14 Stanford College Stats 8 2012 1 2 Robert Griffin QB 22 WAS 2012 2016 0 1 2 35 42 40 15-25-0 766 1210 8983 42 26 275 1670 10 Baylor College Stats 9 2011 1 1 Cam Newton QB 22 CAR 2011 2017 1 3 7 95 109 108 62-45-1 2001 3420 25074 158 94 828 4320 54 Auburn College Stats 10 2010 1 1 Sam Bradford QB 22 STL 2010 2017 0 0 5 43 80 80 34-45-1 1805 2887 19049 101 57 144 333 2 Oklahoma College Stats 11 2009 1 1 Matthew Stafford QB 21 DET 2009 2017 0 1 8 85 125 125 60-65-0 3005 4850 34749 216 118 271 949 14 Georgia College Stats 12 2009 1 5 Mark Sanchez QB 22 NYJ 2009 2016 0 0 5 34 77 72 37-35-0 1295 2285 15219 86 86 169 449 13 USC College Stats 13 2008 1 3 Matt Ryan QB 23 ATL 2008 2017 1 4 10 120 158 158 95-63-0 3630 5593 41796 260 126 351 1023 5 Boston Col. College Stats 14 2007 1 1 JaMarcus Russell QB 22 OAK 2007 2009 0 0 2 6 31 25 7-18-0 354 680 4083 18 23 40 175 1 LSU College Stats 15 2006 1 3 Vince Young QB 23 TEN 2006 2011 0 2 4 33 60 50 31-19-0 755 1304 8964 46 51 282 1459 12 Texas College Stats 16 2005 1 1 Alex Smith QB 21 SFO 2005 2017 0 3 10 93 156 151 88-62-1 2877 4613 31888 183 96 529 2433 14 Utah College Stats 17 2004 1 1 Eli Manning QB 23 SDG 2004 2017 0 4 13 112 216 214 111-103-0 4424 7396 51682 339 228 296 540 6 Mississippi College Stats 18 2004 1 4 Philip Rivers QB 22 NYG 2004 2017 0 7 12 134 196 192 106-86-0 4171 6492 50348 342 166 335 573 3 North Carolina St. College Stats 19 2003 1 1 Carson Palmer QB 23 CIN 2004 2017 0 3 11 108 182 181 92-88-1 3941 6307 46247 294 187 301 474 8 USC College Stats 20 2002 1 1 David Carr QB 23 HOU 2002 2012 0 0 5 44 94 79 23-56-0 1353 2267 14452 65 71 305 1328 9 Fresno St. College Stats 21 2002 1 3 Joey Harrington QB 23 DET 2002 2007 0 0 6 30 81 76 26-50-0 1424 2538 14693 79 85 142 402 0 Oregon College Stats 22 2001 1 1 Michael Vick QB 21 ATL 2001 2015 0 4 7 93 143 115 61-51-1 1807 3217 22464 133 88 873 6109 36 Virginia Tech College Stats I just did that. But, if you want the full list, here it is:
Drafted Players
Rk Year Rnd Pick Pos DrAge Tm From To AP1 PB St CarAV G GS QBrec Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD College/Univ 1 2017 1 2 Mitch Trubisky QB 23 CHI 2017 2017 0 0 1 7 12 12 4-8-0 196 330 2193 7 7 41 248 2 North Carolina College Stats 2 2016 1 1 Jared Goff QB 21 LAR 2016 2017 0 1 1 13 22 22 11-11-0 408 682 4893 33 14 36 67 2 California College Stats 3 2016 1 2 Carson Wentz QB 23 PHI 2016 2017 0 1 2 24 29 29 18-11-0 644 1047 7078 49 21 110 449 2 North Dakota St. College Stats 4 2015 1 1 Jameis Winston QB 21 TAM 2015 2017 0 1 3 33 45 45 18-27-0 939 1544 11636 69 44 140 513 8 Florida St. College Stats 5 2015 1 2 Marcus Mariota QB 21 TEN 2015 2017 0 0 3 33 42 42 20-22-0 787 1274 9476 58 34 154 913 9 Oregon College Stats 6 2014 1 3 Blake Bortles QB 22 JAX 2014 2017 0 0 4 40 62 61 21-40-0 1318 2229 14928 90 64 223 1410 7 Central Florida College Stats 7 2012 1 1 Andrew Luck QB 22 IND 2012 2016 0 3 4 59 70 70 43-27-0 1570 2651 19078 132 68 286 1442 14 Stanford College Stats 8 2012 1 2 Robert Griffin QB 22 WAS 2012 2016 0 1 2 35 42 40 15-25-0 766 1210 8983 42 26 275 1670 10 Baylor College Stats 9 2011 1 1 Cam Newton QB 22 CAR 2011 2017 1 3 7 95 109 108 62-45-1 2001 3420 25074 158 94 828 4320 54 Auburn College Stats 10 2010 1 1 Sam Bradford QB 22 STL 2010 2017 0 0 5 43 80 80 34-45-1 1805 2887 19049 101 57 144 333 2 Oklahoma College Stats 11 2009 1 1 Matthew Stafford QB 21 DET 2009 2017 0 1 8 85 125 125 60-65-0 3005 4850 34749 216 118 271 949 14 Georgia College Stats 12 2009 1 5 Mark Sanchez QB 22 NYJ 2009 2016 0 0 5 34 77 72 37-35-0 1295 2285 15219 86 86 169 449 13 USC College Stats 13 2008 1 3 Matt Ryan QB 23 ATL 2008 2017 1 4 10 120 158 158 95-63-0 3630 5593 41796 260 126 351 1023 5 Boston Col. College Stats 14 2007 1 1 JaMarcus Russell QB 22 OAK 2007 2009 0 0 2 6 31 25 7-18-0 354 680 4083 18 23 40 175 1 LSU College Stats 15 2006 1 3 Vince Young QB 23 TEN 2006 2011 0 2 4 33 60 50 31-19-0 755 1304 8964 46 51 282 1459 12 Texas College Stats 16 2005 1 1 Alex Smith QB 21 SFO 2005 2017 0 3 10 93 156 151 88-62-1 2877 4613 31888 183 96 529 2433 14 Utah College Stats 17 2004 1 1 Eli Manning QB 23 SDG 2004 2017 0 4 13 112 216 214 111-103-0 4424 7396 51682 339 228 296 540 6 Mississippi College Stats 18 2004 1 4 Philip Rivers QB 22 NYG 2004 2017 0 7 12 134 196 192 106-86-0 4171 6492 50348 342 166 335 573 3 North Carolina St. College Stats 19 2003 1 1 Carson Palmer QB 23 CIN 2004 2017 0 3 11 108 182 181 92-88-1 3941 6307 46247 294 187 301 474 8 USC College Stats 20 2002 1 1 David Carr QB 23 HOU 2002 2012 0 0 5 44 94 79 23-56-0 1353 2267 14452 65 71 305 1328 9 Fresno St. College Stats 21 2002 1 3 Joey Harrington QB 23 DET 2002 2007 0 0 6 30 81 76 26-50-0 1424 2538 14693 79 85 142 402 0 Oregon College Stats 22 2001 1 1 Michael Vick QB 21 ATL 2001 2015 0 4 7 93 143 115 61-51-1 1807 3217 22464 133 88 873 6109 36 Virginia Tech College Stats Lot of Busts and Jags on that list.
2 Super Bowl wins by the same guy.
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You seem so sure, and that's fine, but why don't you take one of these gentlemen up on their bet?
I'll bet you a name change on here (I'm not a gambler) that Barkley will NOT be the best player ever like you have said.
So we got a bet?
In Po's defense, no one can see the future and thus cannot tell who will be the best player ever. I'm not a huge Poe fan, but this is ridiculous.
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Carlos Hyde does not mean anything in relation to drafting Barkley, just as Randall and Currie have nothing to do with us drafting a DB/S... or taking Taylor excludes us from taking a QB in the first round.
The Browns are simply filling all of the NEEDS in FA that will allow them to go BPA in the draft and maximize our draft capital. Barkley is the Best Player and playmaker and that's who we'll take #1. No question.
Carlos Hyde does not mean anything in relation to drafting Barkley, just as Randall and Currie have nothing to do with us drafting a DB/S... or taking Taylor excludes us from taking a QB in the first round.
The Browns are simply filling all of the NEEDS in FA that will allow them to go BPA in the draft and maximize our draft capital. Barkley is the Best Player and playmaker and that's who we'll take #1. No question.
It does when you have 4 DB's on the field at one time and quite often 5 or 6 but how many times do you have 2 of the same type of RB's on the field at the exact same time? Practically zero. Again...you don't pay a guy 5 million per year to sit on the bench and/or you don't draft a RB #1 overall to sit on the bench and it makes no sense to play both of them at the same time since they play the same position. Unless you're planning to run the wishbone offense this season with both Hyde and Charles Barkley and Duke all in the backfield at the same time.
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I just did that. But, if you want the full list, here it is:
Drafted Players
Rk Year Rnd Pick Pos DrAge Tm From To AP1 PB St CarAV G GS QBrec Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD College/Univ 1 2017 1 2 Mitch Trubisky QB 23 CHI 2017 2017 0 0 1 7 12 12 4-8-0 196 330 2193 7 7 41 248 2 North Carolina College Stats 2 2016 1 1 Jared Goff QB 21 LAR 2016 2017 0 1 1 13 22 22 11-11-0 408 682 4893 33 14 36 67 2 California College Stats 3 2016 1 2 Carson Wentz QB 23 PHI 2016 2017 0 1 2 24 29 29 18-11-0 644 1047 7078 49 21 110 449 2 North Dakota St. College Stats 4 2015 1 1 Jameis Winston QB 21 TAM 2015 2017 0 1 3 33 45 45 18-27-0 939 1544 11636 69 44 140 513 8 Florida St. College Stats 5 2015 1 2 Marcus Mariota QB 21 TEN 2015 2017 0 0 3 33 42 42 20-22-0 787 1274 9476 58 34 154 913 9 Oregon College Stats 6 2014 1 3 Blake Bortles QB 22 JAX 2014 2017 0 0 4 40 62 61 21-40-0 1318 2229 14928 90 64 223 1410 7 Central Florida College Stats 7 2012 1 1 Andrew Luck QB 22 IND 2012 2016 0 3 4 59 70 70 43-27-0 1570 2651 19078 132 68 286 1442 14 Stanford College Stats 8 2012 1 2 Robert Griffin QB 22 WAS 2012 2016 0 1 2 35 42 40 15-25-0 766 1210 8983 42 26 275 1670 10 Baylor College Stats 9 2011 1 1 Cam Newton QB 22 CAR 2011 2017 1 3 7 95 109 108 62-45-1 2001 3420 25074 158 94 828 4320 54 Auburn College Stats 10 2010 1 1 Sam Bradford QB 22 STL 2010 2017 0 0 5 43 80 80 34-45-1 1805 2887 19049 101 57 144 333 2 Oklahoma College Stats 11 2009 1 1 Matthew Stafford QB 21 DET 2009 2017 0 1 8 85 125 125 60-65-0 3005 4850 34749 216 118 271 949 14 Georgia College Stats 12 2009 1 5 Mark Sanchez QB 22 NYJ 2009 2016 0 0 5 34 77 72 37-35-0 1295 2285 15219 86 86 169 449 13 USC College Stats 13 2008 1 3 Matt Ryan QB 23 ATL 2008 2017 1 4 10 120 158 158 95-63-0 3630 5593 41796 260 126 351 1023 5 Boston Col. College Stats 14 2007 1 1 JaMarcus Russell QB 22 OAK 2007 2009 0 0 2 6 31 25 7-18-0 354 680 4083 18 23 40 175 1 LSU College Stats 15 2006 1 3 Vince Young QB 23 TEN 2006 2011 0 2 4 33 60 50 31-19-0 755 1304 8964 46 51 282 1459 12 Texas College Stats 16 2005 1 1 Alex Smith QB 21 SFO 2005 2017 0 3 10 93 156 151 88-62-1 2877 4613 31888 183 96 529 2433 14 Utah College Stats 17 2004 1 1 Eli Manning QB 23 SDG 2004 2017 0 4 13 112 216 214 111-103-0 4424 7396 51682 339 228 296 540 6 Mississippi College Stats 18 2004 1 4 Philip Rivers QB 22 NYG 2004 2017 0 7 12 134 196 192 106-86-0 4171 6492 50348 342 166 335 573 3 North Carolina St. College Stats 19 2003 1 1 Carson Palmer QB 23 CIN 2004 2017 0 3 11 108 182 181 92-88-1 3941 6307 46247 294 187 301 474 8 USC College Stats 20 2002 1 1 David Carr QB 23 HOU 2002 2012 0 0 5 44 94 79 23-56-0 1353 2267 14452 65 71 305 1328 9 Fresno St. College Stats 21 2002 1 3 Joey Harrington QB 23 DET 2002 2007 0 0 6 30 81 76 26-50-0 1424 2538 14693 79 85 142 402 0 Oregon College Stats 22 2001 1 1 Michael Vick QB 21 ATL 2001 2015 0 4 7 93 143 115 61-51-1 1807 3217 22464 133 88 873 6109 36 Virginia Tech College Stats Lot of Busts and Jags on that list.
2 Super Bowl wins by the same guy.
Lot of Busts and Jags on that list.
2 Super Bowl wins by the same guy.
By Jags....do you mean: Just A Guys....or actual Jacksonville Jaguars?
If the former....yes, some....but also a lot of TBD....to be determineds.
But, if JAX JAGS...just the one.
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Carlos Hyde does not mean anything in relation to drafting Barkley, just as Randall and Currie have nothing to do with us drafting a DB/S... or taking Taylor excludes us from taking a QB in the first round.
The Browns are simply filling all of the NEEDS in FA that will allow them to go BPA in the draft and maximize our draft capital. Barkley is the Best Player and playmaker and that's who we'll take #1. No question.
It does when you have 4 DB's on the field at one time and quite often 5 or 6 but how many times do you have 2 of the same type of RB's on the field at the exact same time? Practically zero. Again...you don't pay a guy 5 million per year to sit on the bench and/or you don't draft a RB #1 overall to sit on the bench and it makes no sense to play both of them at the same time since they play the same position. Unless you're planning to run the wishbone offense this season with both Hyde and Charles Barkley and Duke all in the backfield at the same time.
It does when you have 4 DB's on the field at one time and quite often 5 or 6 but how many times do you have 2 of the same type of RB's on the field at the exact same time? Practically zero. Again...you don't pay a guy 5 million per year to sit on the bench and/or you don't draft a RB #1 overall to sit on the bench and it makes no sense to play both of them at the same time since they play the same position. Unless you're planning to run the wishbone offense this season with both Hyde and Charles Barkley and Duke all in the backfield at the same time.
That would be interesting.....if not likely a successful tactic. I would be curious to see how an NFL defense would handle that. Especially on the goal line. Maybe it would be successful there. But, we would have to use our fullback. Is Dan Vitale as good as Vaughn Broadnax? (who remembers him....or think: Pete Johnson, Matt Snell, John Brockington, Jim Otis.
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I just did that. But, if you want the full list, here it is:
Drafted Players
Rk Year Rnd Pick Pos DrAge Tm From To AP1 PB St CarAV G GS QBrec Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD College/Univ 1 2017 1 2 Mitch Trubisky QB 23 CHI 2017 2017 0 0 1 7 12 12 4-8-0 196 330 2193 7 7 41 248 2 North Carolina College Stats 2 2016 1 1 Jared Goff QB 21 LAR 2016 2017 0 1 1 13 22 22 11-11-0 408 682 4893 33 14 36 67 2 California College Stats 3 2016 1 2 Carson Wentz QB 23 PHI 2016 2017 0 1 2 24 29 29 18-11-0 644 1047 7078 49 21 110 449 2 North Dakota St. College Stats 4 2015 1 1 Jameis Winston QB 21 TAM 2015 2017 0 1 3 33 45 45 18-27-0 939 1544 11636 69 44 140 513 8 Florida St. College Stats 5 2015 1 2 Marcus Mariota QB 21 TEN 2015 2017 0 0 3 33 42 42 20-22-0 787 1274 9476 58 34 154 913 9 Oregon College Stats 6 2014 1 3 Blake Bortles QB 22 JAX 2014 2017 0 0 4 40 62 61 21-40-0 1318 2229 14928 90 64 223 1410 7 Central Florida College Stats 7 2012 1 1 Andrew Luck QB 22 IND 2012 2016 0 3 4 59 70 70 43-27-0 1570 2651 19078 132 68 286 1442 14 Stanford College Stats 8 2012 1 2 Robert Griffin QB 22 WAS 2012 2016 0 1 2 35 42 40 15-25-0 766 1210 8983 42 26 275 1670 10 Baylor College Stats 9 2011 1 1 Cam Newton QB 22 CAR 2011 2017 1 3 7 95 109 108 62-45-1 2001 3420 25074 158 94 828 4320 54 Auburn College Stats 10 2010 1 1 Sam Bradford QB 22 STL 2010 2017 0 0 5 43 80 80 34-45-1 1805 2887 19049 101 57 144 333 2 Oklahoma College Stats 11 2009 1 1 Matthew Stafford QB 21 DET 2009 2017 0 1 8 85 125 125 60-65-0 3005 4850 34749 216 118 271 949 14 Georgia College Stats 12 2009 1 5 Mark Sanchez QB 22 NYJ 2009 2016 0 0 5 34 77 72 37-35-0 1295 2285 15219 86 86 169 449 13 USC College Stats 13 2008 1 3 Matt Ryan QB 23 ATL 2008 2017 1 4 10 120 158 158 95-63-0 3630 5593 41796 260 126 351 1023 5 Boston Col. College Stats 14 2007 1 1 JaMarcus Russell QB 22 OAK 2007 2009 0 0 2 6 31 25 7-18-0 354 680 4083 18 23 40 175 1 LSU College Stats 15 2006 1 3 Vince Young QB 23 TEN 2006 2011 0 2 4 33 60 50 31-19-0 755 1304 8964 46 51 282 1459 12 Texas College Stats 16 2005 1 1 Alex Smith QB 21 SFO 2005 2017 0 3 10 93 156 151 88-62-1 2877 4613 31888 183 96 529 2433 14 Utah College Stats 17 2004 1 1 Eli Manning QB 23 SDG 2004 2017 0 4 13 112 216 214 111-103-0 4424 7396 51682 339 228 296 540 6 Mississippi College Stats 18 2004 1 4 Philip Rivers QB 22 NYG 2004 2017 0 7 12 134 196 192 106-86-0 4171 6492 50348 342 166 335 573 3 North Carolina St. College Stats 19 2003 1 1 Carson Palmer QB 23 CIN 2004 2017 0 3 11 108 182 181 92-88-1 3941 6307 46247 294 187 301 474 8 USC College Stats 20 2002 1 1 David Carr QB 23 HOU 2002 2012 0 0 5 44 94 79 23-56-0 1353 2267 14452 65 71 305 1328 9 Fresno St. College Stats 21 2002 1 3 Joey Harrington QB 23 DET 2002 2007 0 0 6 30 81 76 26-50-0 1424 2538 14693 79 85 142 402 0 Oregon College Stats 22 2001 1 1 Michael Vick QB 21 ATL 2001 2015 0 4 7 93 143 115 61-51-1 1807 3217 22464 133 88 873 6109 36 Virginia Tech College Stats Lot of Busts and Jags on that list.
2 Super Bowl wins by the same guy.
Lot of Busts and Jags on that list.
2 Super Bowl wins by the same guy.
I would consider Wentz a Superbowl winner because:
1. He was in the team, so he's got the ring.
2. He played 15 games
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And damn few Super Bowl wins out of that group. Colts won after James left, and Lewis can thank the other Lewis (Ray) and his defensive pals for his. Just getting to the playoffs isn't the ultimate goal. Ask the Bengals or Vikings about that.
Cmon Man.
There have been only 52 Super Bowl winning RBs and some guys have won more than once.
Cmon Man.
There have been only 52 Super Bowl winning RBs and some guys have won more than once.
Yeah Emmett Smith. Thanks, Troy.
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Cmon Man.
There have been only 52 Super Bowl winning RBs and some guys have won more than once.
Yeah Emmett Smith. Thanks, Troy.
Yeah Emmett Smith. Thanks, Troy.
Franco Harris, Larry Csonka, Roger Craig, Terrell Davis, Mark Van Eaghan
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And damn few Super Bowl wins out of that group. Colts won after James left, and Lewis can thank the other Lewis (Ray) and his defensive pals for his. Just getting to the playoffs isn't the ultimate goal. Ask the Bengals or Vikings about that.
Cmon Man.
There have been only 52 Super Bowl winning RBs and some guys have won more than once.
Cmon Man.
There have been only 52 Super Bowl winning RBs and some guys have won more than once.
Out of the 52 Super Bowls there have been:
29 QB's named as the SB MVP
7 RB's named as the SB MVP (last one was Terrell Davis in SB 32)
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How many SB's were they in?..... 2? Lewis/Bush
If you are talking about RBs taken in the top 5 of the draft since 2000 being in the Super Bowl....then the number is I think 3: Bush, Lewis, James
But if you ask....how many QBs taken since 2000 in the top 5 of the draft....then it is the same number: 3: Eli, Newton, Ryan.
If you are talking about RBs taken in the top 5 of the draft since 2000 being in the Super Bowl....then the number is I think 3: Bush, Lewis, James
But if you ask....how many QBs taken since 2000 in the top 5 of the draft....then it is the same number: 3: Eli, Newton, Ryan.
Yes.. Anyone can basically skew this anyway they like I suppose.. But, I'm just of the mindset.. You take the QB you want #1 , And Live with the pick. then take BPA the rest of the draft... But yeah... We can split hairs all day long.. And the only denominator we'll come up with is theres really no exact science.. But on the other hand.. There have been tried and true processes for doing things "The right way"
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
Lot of Busts and Jags on that list.
2 Super Bowl wins by the same guy.
By Jags....do you mean: Just A Guys....or actual Jacksonville Jaguars?
If the former....yes, some....but also a lot of TBD....to be determineds.
But, if JAX JAGS...just the one.
By Jags....do you mean: Just A Guys....or actual Jacksonville Jaguars?
If the former....yes, some....but also a lot of TBD....to be determineds.
But, if JAX JAGS...just the one.
Just another guy.
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If you are talking about RBs taken in the top 5 of the draft since 2000 being in the Super Bowl....then the number is I think 3: Bush, Lewis, James
But if you ask....how many QBs taken since 2000 in the top 5 of the draft....then it is the same number: 3: Eli, Newton, Ryan.
Yes.. Anyone can basically skew this anyway they like I suppose.. But, I'm just of the mindset.. You take the QB you want #1 , And Live with the pick. then take BPA the rest of the draft... But yeah... We can split hairs all day long.. And the only denominator we'll come up with is theres really no exact science.. But on the other hand.. There have been tried and true processes for doing things "The right way"
Yes.. Anyone can basically skew this anyway they like I suppose.. But, I'm just of the mindset.. You take the QB you want #1 , And Live with the pick. then take BPA the rest of the draft... But yeah... We can split hairs all day long.. And the only denominator we'll come up with is theres really no exact science.. But on the other hand.. There have been tried and true processes for doing things "The right way"
Oh....don't get me wrong......I think we should take a qb #1. The big quandary though is: which one? As I am not really enamored of any of them....not really.
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