Barkley at #1?
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From an ex Giants scout.
That's one smart scout...
All this talk about winning Super Bowls with Brandon Jacobs and Blount is nice.
All you need is a Tom Brady or Eli Manning at QB and any scrap heap RB will do. No problem finding QBs like those guys. The Browns have Taylor and are in win now mode with the way Dorsey is wheeling and dealing. The Colts will take Barkley at 3 if the Browns pass on him.
So E. Manning = T. Brady = N. Foles = Taylor??? lol...
Colts? Maybe as they have their QB... or at least hope they still do... but they have a lot of other needs as well. Other needs where this Draft is nowhere as deep as it is at RB.
So E. Manning = T. Brady = N. Foles = Taylor??? lol...
Colts? Maybe as they have their QB... or at least hope they still do... but they have a lot of other needs as well. Other needs where this Draft is owhere as deep as it is at RB.
FWIW- Word from Indy is they are willing to trade down- for the right price...
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So E. Manning = T. Brady = N. Foles = Taylor??? lol...
Colts? Maybe as they have their QB... or at least hope they still do... but they have a lot of other needs as well. Other needs where this Draft is owhere as deep as it is at RB.
FWIW- Word from Indy is they are willing to trade down- for the right price...
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Gold Jacket - Bradshaw, Griese, Montana, Elway, Stabler.
First... Van Eagan???
Second... weren't all those RBs added after their HoF QB counterpart was established?
Third... In anticipation of the answer to my second question being "yes"... thank you for proving my point.
First... Van Eagan???
Second... weren't all those RBs added after their HoF QB counterpart was established?
Third... In anticipation of the answer to my second question being "yes"... thank you for proving my point.
Well....Van Eaghan WAS the starting RB on two SB winning Raider teams....for what that's worth. And that was what we were talking about.
As for who was established first? Probably the QBs. Though not necessarily. While Bradshaw was drafted in 1970...and Franco Harris in 1972....Harris may in fact been "established" as a quality performer before Bradshaw...who struggled for 2-3 years.
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So E. Manning = T. Brady = N. Foles = Taylor??? lol...
Colts? Maybe as they have their QB... or at least hope they still do... but they have a lot of other needs as well. Other needs where this Draft is owhere as deep as it is at RB.
FWIW- Word from Indy is they are willing to trade down- for the right price...
FWIW- Word from Indy is they are willing to trade down- for the right price...
What is that price? And how far down would they go. And who would trade up? And for what? A QB? Barkley? Chubb?
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What is that price? And how far down would they go. And who would trade up? And for what? A QB? Barkley? Chubb?
TBD Gip, no idea at this point how low, and it depends on who is doing the trading up what the asking price is going to be. Let's see. Broncos, Jets, and Bills are the likely trade up partners. Nobody is trading up for a position player- it's going to be for a quarterback. Draft value chart says the Broncos would only need to give up a second, and maybe a 4th. Jets a little more. The Bills would have to give up at least both first rounders, and one of their second round picks or a future first.
IMHO Arizona flat out won't have the ammo to make a move to #3, short of trading Peterson, their first and second, and a future first.
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Then what I was asking you to do of listing other running backs that were taken in the top 5 wasn't out of context. You can't just list the playoff teams that selected running backs and even have one on there was taken in the second round. If he is he next Curtis enis kijana carter Trent Richardson do you take him? Hell no
Bad GMs took those guys.
Would you take Terrell Davis with the 1 pick tomorrow?
Bad GMs took those guys.
Would you take Terrell Davis with the 1 pick tomorrow?
Aside from my joke because he has been retired and is old now, doesn't that kind of prove people's point on RB? The guy you used as your example (TD), was a 6th round draft pick. So that multiple time Super Bowl champion and HOF didn't go in 1st-5th.
He also ran behind one heck of a line, and had one of the best QBs of ALL TIME.
I know where you were going with this. But TERRIBLE example for your argument.
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The Colts may very well trade down a bit as they have multiple needs and someone may want to jump up for a QB (as someone does that almost every year). We, of course, have multiple needs...but we have multiple 2nd round picks.
I don't understand how anyone can think that we're drafting a RB at #1 overall....but then, I can't figure out flat-earther's either.
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Saquon should be the 1st overall draft pick.
If Tyrod Taylor is the QB of the future it makes no sense to go and draft a guy that will sit for 3 years, that's over half of his contract. Then if he finally does get the chance and he plays well, we'll be paying Kirk Cousins like prices for a guy that has only produced for one year.
Barkley is going to IMMEDIATELY make an IMPACT on the offense. Whoever plays QB is going to benefit from having one of the best running back prospects in the past 30 years. A team first guy that isn't going to whine about touches or what is going to be asked of him. He's going to go all out, every play and all in all he's going to win a majority of his matchups. You are going to be hard pressed to find a defense that can shut down Josh Gordon, Jarvis Landry, Saquon Barkley, David Njoku and company consistently. You are going to have to pick your poison, what player do you leave open?
It makes no sense unless we are starting this "Golden Boy Rookie QB" day 1 to take him #1 overall with a prospect like Barkley in your hands.
Barkley is already a Brown, are you seriously going to pass him off to the Giants for a maybe someday QB? That's silly.
Take Barkley and if there is a must have QB sitting there at 4... you have the draft capital to invest such a high pick on a luxury watch and learn for a few years QB. If Mayfield or Darnold, maybe Rosen or even Allen are there and the plan is to have them watch and learn from Taylor and Hogan for a few seasons then by all means, draft him at #4.
But to be in WIN NOW mode as we are you absolutely take Barkley first.
The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain- -
Saquon should be the 1st overall draft pick.
If Tyrod Taylor is the QB of the future it makes no sense to go and draft a guy that will sit for 3 years, that's over half of his contract. Then if he finally does get the chance and he plays well, we'll be paying Kirk Cousins like prices for a guy that has only produced for one year.
Barkley is going to IMMEDIATELY make an IMPACT on the offense. Whoever plays QB is going to benefit from having one of the best running back prospects in the past 30 years. A team first guy that isn't going to whine about touches or what is going to be asked of him. He's going to go all out, every play and all in all he's going to win a majority of his matchups. You are going to be hard pressed to find a defense that can shut down Josh Gordon, Jarvis Landry, Saquon Barkley, David Njoku and company consistently. You are going to have to pick your poison, what player do you leave open?
It makes no sense unless we are starting this "Golden Boy Rookie QB" day 1 to take him #1 overall with a prospect like Barkley in your hands.
Barkley is already a Brown, are you seriously going to pass him off to the Giants for a maybe someday QB? That's silly.
Take Barkley and if there is a must have QB sitting there at 4... you have the draft capital to invest such a high pick on a luxury watch and learn for a few years QB. If Mayfield or Darnold, maybe Rosen or even Allen are there and the plan is to have them watch and learn from Taylor and Hogan for a few seasons then by all means, draft him at #4.
But to be in WIN NOW mode as we are you absolutely take Barkley first.
Saquon should be the 1st overall draft pick.
If Tyrod Taylor is the QB of the future it makes no sense to go and draft a guy that will sit for 3 years, that's over half of his contract. Then if he finally does get the chance and he plays well, we'll be paying Kirk Cousins like prices for a guy that has only produced for one year.
Barkley is going to IMMEDIATELY make an IMPACT on the offense. Whoever plays QB is going to benefit from having one of the best running back prospects in the past 30 years. A team first guy that isn't going to whine about touches or what is going to be asked of him. He's going to go all out, every play and all in all he's going to win a majority of his matchups. You are going to be hard pressed to find a defense that can shut down Josh Gordon, Jarvis Landry, Saquon Barkley, David Njoku and company consistently. You are going to have to pick your poison, what player do you leave open?
It makes no sense unless we are starting this "Golden Boy Rookie QB" day 1 to take him #1 overall with a prospect like Barkley in your hands.
Barkley is already a Brown, are you seriously going to pass him off to the Giants for a maybe someday QB? That's silly.
Take Barkley and if there is a must have QB sitting there at 4... you have the draft capital to invest such a high pick on a luxury watch and learn for a few years QB. If Mayfield or Darnold, maybe Rosen or even Allen are there and the plan is to have them watch and learn from Taylor and Hogan for a few seasons then by all means, draft him at #4.
But to be in WIN NOW mode as we are you absolutely take Barkley first.
I dont think anyone thinks Tyrod is the future.
I also don't think the Browns are in win now mode. Yes I am sure they want to win, but I believe the plan is to set themselves up for the future.
The Browns are not going from no wins to the Super Bowl.
You have a warped reality on #1 quarterback. Just because they are drafted 1st (or anywhere in 1st) doesn't mean they have to start day one. NO TEAM IN HISTORY is drafting a player for Day 1, they are doing it for the future. Hmm, probably the top 3 QB in the league are Brady, Rodgers, Brees. You know what they have in common besides Super Bowl champions? They didn't start Day 1. They DEVELOPED.
I get it, you want Saquon. You have said it about 967 times. But don't try to use a false narrative to try and prove your point. A LOT of these QBs who start day one flame out, why? Because they aren't ready, haven't developed, and dont have the team around them to achieve success.
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Saquon should be the 1st overall draft pick.
If Tyrod Taylor is the QB of the future it makes no sense to go and draft a guy that will sit for 3 years, that's over half of his contract. Then if he finally does get the chance and he plays well, we'll be paying Kirk Cousins like prices for a guy that has only produced for one year.
Barkley is going to IMMEDIATELY make an IMPACT on the offense. Whoever plays QB is going to benefit from having one of the best running back prospects in the past 30 years. A team first guy that isn't going to whine about touches or what is going to be asked of him. He's going to go all out, every play and all in all he's going to win a majority of his matchups. You are going to be hard pressed to find a defense that can shut down Josh Gordon, Jarvis Landry, Saquon Barkley, David Njoku and company consistently. You are going to have to pick your poison, what player do you leave open?
It makes no sense unless we are starting this "Golden Boy Rookie QB" day 1 to take him #1 overall with a prospect like Barkley in your hands.
Barkley is already a Brown, are you seriously going to pass him off to the Giants for a maybe someday QB? That's silly.
Take Barkley and if there is a must have QB sitting there at 4... you have the draft capital to invest such a high pick on a luxury watch and learn for a few years QB. If Mayfield or Darnold, maybe Rosen or even Allen are there and the plan is to have them watch and learn from Taylor and Hogan for a few seasons then by all means, draft him at #4.
But to be in WIN NOW mode as we are you absolutely take Barkley first.
I dont think anyone thinks Tyrod is the future.
I also don't think the Browns are in win now mode. Yes I am sure they want to win, but I believe the plan is to set themselves up for the future.
The Browns are not going from no wins to the Super Bowl.
You have a warped reality on #1 quarterback. Just because they are drafted 1st (or anywhere in 1st) doesn't mean they have to start day one. NO TEAM IN HISTORY is drafting a player for Day 1, they are doing it for the future. Hmm, probably the top 3 QB in the league are Brady, Rodgers, Brees. You know what they have in common besides Super Bowl champions? They didn't start Day 1. They DEVELOPED.
I get it, you want Saquon. You have said it about 967 times. But don't try to use a false narrative to try and prove your point. A LOT of these QBs who start day one flame out, why? Because they aren't ready, haven't developed, and dont have the team around them to achieve success.
I dont think anyone thinks Tyrod is the future.
I also don't think the Browns are in win now mode. Yes I am sure they want to win, but I believe the plan is to set themselves up for the future.
The Browns are not going from no wins to the Super Bowl.
You have a warped reality on #1 quarterback. Just because they are drafted 1st (or anywhere in 1st) doesn't mean they have to start day one. NO TEAM IN HISTORY is drafting a player for Day 1, they are doing it for the future. Hmm, probably the top 3 QB in the league are Brady, Rodgers, Brees. You know what they have in common besides Super Bowl champions? They didn't start Day 1. They DEVELOPED.
I get it, you want Saquon. You have said it about 967 times. But don't try to use a false narrative to try and prove your point. A LOT of these QBs who start day one flame out, why? Because they aren't ready, haven't developed, and dont have the team around them to achieve success.
Do you know what all those QB's also have in common? None of them were drafted #1 overall.
If you are picking #1 and taking a QB, he better be ready day 1.
The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain- -
Saquon Barkley's big day: Penn State's star officially has March 14 recognized as Saquon Barkley Day in Pennsylvania
Updated Mar 15, 8:09 AM; Posted Mar 14sharesFor three years, it seemed like every fall Saturday was unofficially Saquon Barkley Day for the Penn State football program and it's fan base.
And on Wednesday the Pennsylvania House of Representatives made it official inside the Capitol, unanimously voting to approve resolution H.R. 697 to recognize March 14 as Saquon Barkley Day in Pennsylvania.
Barkley, Penn State's superstar running back, took a break from training for the April NFL draft to attend the ceremony with his family. He later was greeted by hundreds of well-wishers inside the Capitol, some of them lawmakers and all of them fans of the 21-year-old running back's game.Barkley signed autographs and Penn State gear. He even signed the sash of 2017 Miss Pennsylvania Katie Schreckengast, who is from Palmyra.
"I'm just proud to represent my family and represent Whitehall and represent Penn State,'' Barkley said after being honored.
"Hopefully, I can continue to do the right things.''
The resolution recognizing Barkley was sponsored by Rep. Jeanne McNeill (D-Lehigh). Barkley attended Whitehall High School, which is in McNeill's backyard.
"Saquon's going to the draft soon and he's probably not going to be around this area too much and because he's such an awesome, outstanding young man,'' McNeill said.
"I felt it was good to honor him and bring his family in and show them he's loved by all before he goes off into that new world.''
"I'm just happy,'' Barkley said.
"I'm honored to be able to be recognized here with my family. I didn't know the day was actually a real day until now. When (McNeill) said the number, I was like, 'It's actually Saquon Barkley Day'. That's neat, and that's awesome.''
With the NFL draft still more than a month away, Barkley said he is closely following which players are going where in NFL free agency. Some of the signings could have a significant impact on where Barkley lands in the draft.
After his brilliant display at the NFL Scouting Combine, the 6-0, 230-pound Barkley is expected to go in the top five picks of the draft.Barkley said he is training in Florida and California to continue preparations for the draft. He is expected to visit with some teams and also is planning to attend Penn State's Pro Day Tuesday in State College.
"Right now, just, Pro Day is coming up,'' Barkley said.
"I don't know if I'm doing that much at Pro Day. I think I'm just going to run (pass routes), that's what my agent and my manager and myself and my family discussed, I think that's going to be the best decision."
Barkley was in Louisville, Kentucky earlier this month to receive the Paul Hornung award, presented to the nation's most versatile player. He met with Hornung, the Green Bay Packers' great, and NFL icon Jim Brown. The Penn State runner also recently filmed a commercial.
"My life's the same. I still train the same,'' Barkley said.
"But I have been able to a lot of awesome stuff, like meet Jim Brown, Paul Hornung. Jim Brown is a special person to me, especially as a black athlete.
"It's stuff you dream about as a kid. I'm just happy to make my family proud. My mom and dad know how much this means to me and how hard I worked for this. It's kind of all coming together.
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If you don't endorse taking Barkley #1... you are addicted to pain.
The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain- -
I dont think anyone thinks Tyrod is the future.
I also don't think the Browns are in win now mode. Yes I am sure they want to win, but I believe the plan is to set themselves up for the future.
The Browns are not going from no wins to the Super Bowl.
You have a warped reality on #1 quarterback. Just because they are drafted 1st (or anywhere in 1st) doesn't mean they have to start day one. NO TEAM IN HISTORY is drafting a player for Day 1, they are doing it for the future. Hmm, probably the top 3 QB in the league are Brady, Rodgers, Brees. You know what they have in common besides Super Bowl champions? They didn't start Day 1. They DEVELOPED.
I get it, you want Saquon. You have said it about 967 times. But don't try to use a false narrative to try and prove your point. A LOT of these QBs who start day one flame out, why? Because they aren't ready, haven't developed, and dont have the team around them to achieve success.
Do you know what all those QB's also have in common? None of them were drafted #1 overall.
If you are picking #1 and taking a QB, he better be ready day 1.
Do you know what all those QB's also have in common? None of them were drafted #1 overall.
If you are picking #1 and taking a QB, he better be ready day 1.
Sitting worked out well for Goff. Only reason Wentz even played was the injury to Bradford.
Neither coach planned to start them. They're smarter than Hue that's a given.
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Saquon should be the 1st overall draft pick.
If Tyrod Taylor is the QB of the future it makes no sense to go and draft a guy that will sit for 3 years, that's over half of his contract. Then if he finally does get the chance and he plays well, we'll be paying Kirk Cousins like prices for a guy that has only produced for one year.
Barkley is going to IMMEDIATELY make an IMPACT on the offense. Whoever plays QB is going to benefit from having one of the best running back prospects in the past 30 years. A team first guy that isn't going to whine about touches or what is going to be asked of him. He's going to go all out, every play and all in all he's going to win a majority of his matchups. You are going to be hard pressed to find a defense that can shut down Josh Gordon, Jarvis Landry, Saquon Barkley, David Njoku and company consistently. You are going to have to pick your poison, what player do you leave open?
It makes no sense unless we are starting this "Golden Boy Rookie QB" day 1 to take him #1 overall with a prospect like Barkley in your hands.
Barkley is already a Brown, are you seriously going to pass him off to the Giants for a maybe someday QB? That's silly.
Take Barkley and if there is a must have QB sitting there at 4... you have the draft capital to invest such a high pick on a luxury watch and learn for a few years QB. If Mayfield or Darnold, maybe Rosen or even Allen are there and the plan is to have them watch and learn from Taylor and Hogan for a few seasons then by all means, draft him at #4.
But to be in WIN NOW mode as we are you absolutely take Barkley first.
I dont think anyone thinks Tyrod is the future.
I also don't think the Browns are in win now mode. Yes I am sure they want to win, but I believe the plan is to set themselves up for the future.
The Browns are not going from no wins to the Super Bowl.
You have a warped reality on #1 quarterback. Just because they are drafted 1st (or anywhere in 1st) doesn't mean they have to start day one. NO TEAM IN HISTORY is drafting a player for Day 1, they are doing it for the future. Hmm, probably the top 3 QB in the league are Brady, Rodgers, Brees. You know what they have in common besides Super Bowl champions? They didn't start Day 1. They DEVELOPED.
I get it, you want Saquon. You have said it about 967 times. But don't try to use a false narrative to try and prove your point. A LOT of these QBs who start day one flame out, why? Because they aren't ready, haven't developed, and dont have the team around them to achieve success.
I dont think anyone thinks Tyrod is the future. -I don't know if he will be or not, but I know that with Tyrod and Hogan QB is no longer the biggest need. A QB at #4, if we take Barkley #1 will equate to the #1-3 QBs in a draft with 5+ first round QBs. That QB can sit and learn from the vets for a while until he's completely ready.
I also don't think the Browns are in win now mode. Yes I am sure they want to win, but I believe the plan is to set themselves up for the future. - Are you kidding? If the Browns finish less than .500 this year, it will be a disappointment, straight up. The FA additions and veteran leadership, along with adding a known commodity at OC. Dorsey isn't Sashi, we're no longer building for the future, we've suffered so we could cash in. We are cashing out and GOING FOR IT>@!!! WE NEED BARKLEY if we're going to win this thing. Barkley or Bust.
The Browns are not going from no wins to the Super Bowl. - We are very much contenders right now. Taylor took the Bills to the Playoffs and they didn't have a Josh Gordon AND Saquon Barkley, Jarvis Landry, Njoku or the defense that we're building. The Browns are very much in the MIX for playoffs next year!
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The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain- -
It makes me sick to listen to all the talking heads give NY Barkley #2 because Cleveland is pathetically sick and in love with the Quarterback controversy. For the love of God- Since Bernie left that's all we've done is chase after QBs... and look where we are.
Take a different approach, take the STAR RB and maybe, just maybe- you'll find that QB hasn't been the nail in our side for so long. The last time we were good who was the Runningback? Peyton Hillis? Before that? Jamal Lewis.
Since we've had average backs, we've been below average. Take the RB and put an offense together that would make a bitch blush.
Josh Gordon - Saquon Barkley - Jarvis Landry - Carlos Hyde - Duke Johnson - David Njoku - Corey Coleman - (to be continued...)
The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain- -
Saquon Barkley's big day: Penn State's star officially has March 14 recognized as Saquon Barkley Day in Pennsylvania
Updated Mar 15, 8:09 AM; Posted Mar 14sharesFor three years, it seemed like every fall Saturday was unofficially Saquon Barkley Day for the Penn State football program and it's fan base.
And on Wednesday the Pennsylvania House of Representatives made it official inside the Capitol, unanimously voting to approve resolution H.R. 697 to recognize March 14 as Saquon Barkley Day in Pennsylvania.
Barkley, Penn State's superstar running back, took a break from training for the April NFL draft to attend the ceremony with his family. He later was greeted by hundreds of well-wishers inside the Capitol, some of them lawmakers and all of them fans of the 21-year-old running back's game.Barkley signed autographs and Penn State gear. He even signed the sash of 2017 Miss Pennsylvania Katie Schreckengast, who is from Palmyra.
"I'm just proud to represent my family and represent Whitehall and represent Penn State,'' Barkley said after being honored.
"Hopefully, I can continue to do the right things.''
The resolution recognizing Barkley was sponsored by Rep. Jeanne McNeill (D-Lehigh). Barkley attended Whitehall High School, which is in McNeill's backyard.
"Saquon's going to the draft soon and he's probably not going to be around this area too much and because he's such an awesome, outstanding young man,'' McNeill said.
"I felt it was good to honor him and bring his family in and show them he's loved by all before he goes off into that new world.''
"I'm just happy,'' Barkley said.
"I'm honored to be able to be recognized here with my family. I didn't know the day was actually a real day until now. When (McNeill) said the number, I was like, 'It's actually Saquon Barkley Day'. That's neat, and that's awesome.''
With the NFL draft still more than a month away, Barkley said he is closely following which players are going where in NFL free agency. Some of the signings could have a significant impact on where Barkley lands in the draft.
After his brilliant display at the NFL Scouting Combine, the 6-0, 230-pound Barkley is expected to go in the top five picks of the draft.Barkley said he is training in Florida and California to continue preparations for the draft. He is expected to visit with some teams and also is planning to attend Penn State's Pro Day Tuesday in State College.
"Right now, just, Pro Day is coming up,'' Barkley said.
"I don't know if I'm doing that much at Pro Day. I think I'm just going to run (pass routes), that's what my agent and my manager and myself and my family discussed, I think that's going to be the best decision."
Barkley was in Louisville, Kentucky earlier this month to receive the Paul Hornung award, presented to the nation's most versatile player. He met with Hornung, the Green Bay Packers' great, and NFL icon Jim Brown. The Penn State runner also recently filmed a commercial.
"My life's the same. I still train the same,'' Barkley said.
"But I have been able to a lot of awesome stuff, like meet Jim Brown, Paul Hornung. Jim Brown is a special person to me, especially as a black athlete.
"It's stuff you dream about as a kid. I'm just happy to make my family proud. My mom and dad know how much this means to me and how hard I worked for this. It's kind of all coming together.
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If you don't endorse taking Barkley #1... you are addicted to pain.
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It makes me sick to listen to all the talking heads give NY Barkley #2 because Cleveland is pathetically sick and in love with the Quarterback controversy. For the love of God- Since Bernie left that's all we've done is chase after QBs... and look where we are.
Take a different approach, take the STAR RB and maybe, just maybe- you'll find that QB hasn't been the nail in our side for so long. The last time we were good who was the Runningback? Peyton Hillis? Before that? Jamal Lewis.
Since we've had average backs, we've been below average. Take the RB and put an offense together that would make a bitch blush.
Josh Gordon - Saquon Barkley - Jarvis Landry - Carlos Hyde - Duke Johnson - David Njoku - Corey Coleman - (to be continued...)
It makes me sick to listen to all the talking heads give NY Barkley #2 because Cleveland is pathetically sick and in love with the Quarterback controversy. For the love of God- Since Bernie left that's all we've done is chase after QBs... and look where we are.
Take a different approach, take the STAR RB and maybe, just maybe- you'll find that QB hasn't been the nail in our side for so long. The last time we were good who was the Runningback? Peyton Hillis? Before that? Jamal Lewis.
Since we've had average backs, we've been below average. Take the RB and put an offense together that would make a bitch blush.
Josh Gordon - Saquon Barkley - Jarvis Landry - Carlos Hyde - Duke Johnson - David Njoku - Corey Coleman - (to be continued...)
Hahaha. Last one was Hillis eh? You said Trent Richardson was great.
But yea, we are supposed to trust you on this one.
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The Browns were better when we had Trent too, we won more games his only year here than we've won in three without him... the downfall was we also had a different boneheaded ginger named WeeDone.
The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain- -
I dont think anyone thinks Tyrod is the future. -I don't know if he will be or not, but I know that with Tyrod and Hogan QB is no longer the biggest need. A QB at #4, if we take Barkley #1 will equate to the #1-3 QBs in a draft with 5+ first round QBs. That QB can sit and learn from the vets for a while until he's completely ready.
I also don't think the Browns are in win now mode. Yes I am sure they want to win, but I believe the plan is to set themselves up for the future. - Are you kidding? If the Browns finish less than .500 this year, it will be a disappointment, straight up. The FA additions and veteran leadership, along with adding a known commodity at OC. Dorsey isn't Sashi, we're no longer building for the future, we've suffered so we could cash in. We are cashing out and GOING FOR IT>@!!! WE NEED BARKLEY if we're going to win this thing. Barkley or Bust.
The Browns are not going from no wins to the Super Bowl. - We are very much contenders right now. Taylor took the Bills to the Playoffs and they didn't have a Josh Gordon AND Saquon Barkley, Jarvis Landry, Njoku or the defense that we're building. The Browns are very much in the MIX for playoffs next year!
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Well you said they were going to playoffs this past season, 0-16 later and you look like a genius.
I mean I think I already know what you answer will be, but here.
Trent Richardson
Reggie Bush
Ronnie Brown
KiJana Carter
Marshall Faulk
Garrison Hearst
Blair Thomas
Barry Sanders
Alonzo Highsmith
Eric Dickerson
Curt Warner
Last 35 years, RB drafted in Top 3.
11 players, 3 GREAT PLAYERS. 27%
But yea, I will trust you over any kind of stat, or my own knowledge being involved in the game, not as a fan.
I am telling you now, no matter how good you THINK he will be, he won't have any more impact than Todd Gurley did. Jared Goff is better than Tyrod Taylor, and LAR defense is better Cleveland's.
And a double HAHA that you think Kevin Hogan will have any impact on the team. Yea he might keep the drafted QB arm not being as tired since Hogan will be holding the clipboard
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The Browns were better when we had Trent too, we won more games his only year here than we've won in three without him... the downfall was we also had a different boneheaded ginger named WeeDone.
The Browns were better when we had Trent too, we won more games his only year here than we've won in three without him... the downfall was we also had a different boneheaded ginger named WeeDone.
Obviously went WAY over your head. You have said how great Trent was, yet you said Hillis was last good back in Cleveland.
So you skipped over YOUR OWN GUY. But yea, I'll trust you over ANYONE else
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I said when was the last time the BROWNS were good?
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