2018 Mock Drafts
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I like the talent we would bring in but do we need Smith? Collins and Kirksey just got paid and Smith is too small for the middle.
Also I don't see why everyone is so high on Fitzpatrick. He looks like a pretty good prospect as a corner but I haven't seen anything that would make me comfortable with him playing FS.
Well for starters you did not mention our MLB... so there's that.
At a Combine measured 6'1 - 236, Smith is not too small... he's right in line with the vast majority of really good MLBs drafted since Kuechley.... and only a little smaller than Luke. Shazier, Foster, Mosely, Kendricks, Alonso are all in the same ball park as Roquan. That said I don't take Smith.... Vander Esch is the LB I really like. Part of my Vander Esche attraction is I see him near the top of this class at both MLB and OLB. His versatility is really intriguing.
Agree on Fitz... I don't think he's the best prospect in the draft at either CB or FS (I like Ward and James respectively), but Fitz has the versatility to be in the "best" conversation at both positions and that adds value.
Well for starters you did not mention our MLB... so there's that.
At a Combine measured 6'1 - 236, Smith is not too small... he's right in line with the vast majority of really good MLBs drafted since Kuechley.... and only a little smaller than Luke. Shazier, Foster, Mosely, Kendricks, Alonso are all in the same ball park as Roquan. That said I don't take Smith.... Vander Esch is the LB I really like. Part of my Vander Esche attraction is I see him near the top of this class at both MLB and OLB. His versatility is really intriguing.
Agree on Fitz... I don't think he's the best prospect in the draft at either CB or FS (I like Ward and James respectively), but Fitz has the versatility to be in the "best" conversation at both positions and that adds value.
We should definitely be in the market for a LB imo. Even if you like starters Kirksey, Collins, Schobert (a couple of which I think play out of position).....we still have little, imo, to back them up. The injured Tank Carder, James Burgess. Anything else?
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Well for starters you did not mention our MLB... so there's that.
At a Combine measured 6'1 - 236, Smith is not too small... he's right in line with the vast majority of really good MLBs drafted since Kuechley.... and only a little smaller than Luke. Shazier, Foster, Mosely, Kendricks, Alonso are all in the same ball park as Roquan. That said I don't take Smith.... Vander Esch is the LB I really like. Part of my Vander Esche attraction is I see him near the top of this class at both MLB and OLB. His versatility is really intriguing.
Agree on Fitz... I don't think he's the best prospect in the draft at either CB or FS (I like Ward and James respectively), but Fitz has the versatility to be in the "best" conversation at both positions and that adds value.
We should definitely be in the market for a LB imo. Even if you like starters Kirksey, Collins, Schobert (a couple of which I think play out of position).....we still have little, imo, to back them up. The injured Tank Carder, James Burgess. Anything else?
We should definitely be in the market for a LB imo. Even if you like starters Kirksey, Collins, Schobert (a couple of which I think play out of position).....we still have little, imo, to back them up. The injured Tank Carder, James Burgess. Anything else?
Tamba Hali for 1 year ?
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We should definitely be in the market for a LB imo. Even if you like starters Kirksey, Collins, Schobert (a couple of which I think play out of position).....we still have little, imo, to back them up. The injured Tank Carder, James Burgess. Anything else?
Tamba Hali for 1 year ?
Tamba Hali for 1 year ?
Well....he was a Dorsey draft pick...no? So...you never know....though his has some age on him, no?
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Well....he was a Dorsey draft pick...no? So...you never know....though his has some age on him, no?
yes he is 35 but if he is fit enough.....how old is Peppers ?
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Well....he was a Dorsey draft pick...no? So...you never know....though his has some age on him, no?
yes he is 35 but if he is fit enough.....how old is Peppers ?
yes he is 35 but if he is fit enough.....how old is Peppers ?
So...he would not be a Dorsey pick if he is that old.
And what does Peppers have to do with it?
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So...he would not be a Dorsey pick if he is that old.
And what does Peppers have to do with it?
Similar age and he did OK last season ......
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So...he would not be a Dorsey pick if he is that old.
And what does Peppers have to do with it?
Similar age and he did OK last season ......
Similar age and he did OK last season ......
Oh....you must mean Julius Peppers....not Jabril Peppers. Julius is probably older even....like 38.
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Oh....you must mean Julius Peppers.... Julius is probably older even....like 38.
yep Julius Pepper is 38 but still a freak of nature..JP had 11 sacks.. only starting 5 games last season at Panthers..My 3 daughters all graduated from his HS. Southern Nash High School near Wilson,NC. Maybe more illegal HS tampering
but JP transferred from Fike HS to Southern as only a Track Star.Southern's football coach Ray Davis had to talk JP into playing football. JP was a RB with 3500 yards & 46 TD's & played DL.JP still holds HS school records as a sprinter in men's 4X400 relay team,triple jump & high jump..Ray Davis has a line "god just did not make enough long armed DE's like JB" he's right, specially the ones that are 6'7"285 that can burn a 40 at 4.68
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#1- Saquon no matter what.
#4- Best Quarterback for the Future.
In this situation we are drafting for both the "here and NOW" and also for "the future". It's a "win/win" situation but because of Cleveland insatiable appetite for the QB position we find ourselves in quite a "making a mountain out of a mole hill" discussion.
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#1- Saquon no matter what.
#4- Best Quarterback for the Future.
In this situation we are drafting for both the "here and NOW" and also for "the future". It's a "win/win" situation but because of Cleveland insatiable appetite for the QB position we find ourselves in quite a "making a mountain out of a mole hill" discussion.
#1- Saquon no matter what.
#4- Best Quarterback for the Future.
In this situation we are drafting for both the "here and NOW" and also for "the future". It's a "win/win" situation but because of Cleveland insatiable appetite for the QB position we find ourselves in quite a "making a mountain out of a mole hill" discussion.
Can't agree with you there. We've already rolled the dice taking the 4th or 5th quarterback. How did that turn out? I figured if there's a guy they want just fukking take him. If Barkley is there at 4 great. If not there are plenty of good running backs to be had later.
WSS
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#1- Saquon no matter what.
#4- Best Quarterback for the Future.
In this situation we are drafting for both the "here and NOW" and also for "the future". It's a "win/win" situation but because of Cleveland insatiable appetite for the QB position we find ourselves in quite a "making a mountain out of a mole hill" discussion.
Can't agree with you there. We've already rolled the dice taking the 4th or 5th quarterback. How did that turn out? I figured if there's a guy they want just fukking take him. If Barkley is there at 4 great. If not there are plenty of good running backs to be had later.
WSS
Can't agree with you there. We've already rolled the dice taking the 4th or 5th quarterback. How did that turn out? I figured if there's a guy they want just fukking take him. If Barkley is there at 4 great. If not there are plenty of good running backs to be had later.
WSS
There are good running backs later, sure. But we're talking Jim Brown special type running back. You don't pass on that or take a chance two other teams will say, nah as well. If anything I see a team jumping up in the draft to take Barkley before the Browns at 4. Teams that are just a RB away. He's a sure fire blue chipper and just like Garrett last year- you take what the football gods give you and you don't try to turn a frog into a prince instead.
As much as you guys want one of these QBs to be The Guy, nobody is sure who is THE GUY this draft, well not any QBs anyway, every GM and Scout will tell you it's the RB this year.
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Dorsey made it clear when he was hired that QB was top priority , he has no option with the 1st pick. It will be a QB ,so he has till draft day to figure which one. Tyrod Taylor will serve as the starter this year given Uncle Fester a quality QB that’s mobile, strong arm, doesn’t turn the ball over , and should work well with the new additions and should be able to win right out of the gate. Uncle Fester will have a very short leash if he doesn’t win he’s gone. Seeing the cost of starting QBs through free agency Dorsey made a brilliant move with Taylor knowing he can pick his QB at #1 to sit and learn for a year. A guy like Josh Allen would benefit most in this situation.
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Dorsey made it clear when he was hired that QB was top priority , he has no option with the 1st pick. It will be a QB ,so he has till draft day to figure which one. Tyrod Taylor will serve as the starter this year given Uncle Fester a quality QB that’s mobile, strong arm, doesn’t turn the ball over , and should work well with the new additions and should be able to win right out of the gate. Uncle Fester will have a very short leash if he doesn’t win he’s gone. Seeing the cost of starting QBs through free agency Dorsey made a brilliant move with Taylor knowing he can pick his QB at #1 to sit and learn for a year. A guy like Josh Allen would benefit most in this situation.
Dorsey made it clear when he was hired that QB was top priority , he has no option with the 1st pick. It will be a QB ,so he has till draft day to figure which one. Tyrod Taylor will serve as the starter this year given Uncle Fester a quality QB that’s mobile, strong arm, doesn’t turn the ball over , and should work well with the new additions and should be able to win right out of the gate. Uncle Fester will have a very short leash if he doesn’t win he’s gone. Seeing the cost of starting QBs through free agency Dorsey made a brilliant move with Taylor knowing he can pick his QB at #1 to sit and learn for a year. A guy like Josh Allen would benefit most in this situation.
No amount of waiting has ever improved any QB's accuracy. You either have it or you don't. He doesn't.
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#1- Saquon no matter what.
#4- Best Quarterback for the Future.
In this situation we are drafting for both the "here and NOW" and also for "the future". It's a "win/win" situation but because of Cleveland insatiable appetite for the QB position we find ourselves in quite a "making a mountain out of a mole hill" discussion.
#1- Saquon no matter what.
#4- Best Quarterback for the Future.
In this situation we are drafting for both the "here and NOW" and also for "the future". It's a "win/win" situation but because of Cleveland insatiable appetite for the QB position we find ourselves in quite a "making a mountain out of a mole hill" discussion.
What in effing hell makes you think that we don't already know your opinion. No need to repeat it one hundred gazillion times.
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Can't agree with you there. We've already rolled the dice taking the 4th or 5th quarterback. How did that turn out? I figured if there's a guy they want just fukking take him. If Barkley is there at 4 great. If not there are plenty of good running backs to be had later.
WSS
There are good running backs later, sure. But we're talking Jim Brown special type running back. You don't pass on that or take a chance two other teams will say, nah as well. If anything I see a team jumping up in the draft to take Barkley before the Browns at 4. Teams that are just a RB away. He's a sure fire blue chipper and just like Garrett last year- you take what the football gods give you and you don't try to turn a frog into a prince instead.
As much as you guys want one of these QBs to be The Guy, nobody is sure who is THE GUY this draft, well not any QBs anyway, every GM and Scout will tell you it's the RB this year.
There are good running backs later, sure. But we're talking Jim Brown special type running back. You don't pass on that or take a chance two other teams will say, nah as well. If anything I see a team jumping up in the draft to take Barkley before the Browns at 4. Teams that are just a RB away. He's a sure fire blue chipper and just like Garrett last year- you take what the football gods give you and you don't try to turn a frog into a prince instead.
As much as you guys want one of these QBs to be The Guy, nobody is sure who is THE GUY this draft, well not any QBs anyway, every GM and Scout will tell you it's the RB this year.
Or....more likely...he is a Curtis Enis type running back.
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Oh....you must mean Julius Peppers.... Julius is probably older even....like 38.
yep Julius Pepper is 38 but still a freak of nature..JP had 11 sacks.. only starting 5 games last season at Panthers..My 3 daughters all graduated from his HS. Southern Nash High School near Wilson,NC. Maybe more illegal HS tampering
but JP transferred from Fike HS to Southern as only a Track Star.Southern's football coach Ray Davis had to talk JP into playing football. JP was a RB with 3500 yards & 46 TD's & played DL.JP still holds HS school records as a sprinter in men's 4X400 relay team,triple jump & high jump..Ray Davis has a line "god just did not make enough long armed DE's like JB" he's right, specially the ones that are 6'7"285 that can burn a 40 at 4.68
yep Julius Pepper is 38 but still a freak of nature..JP had 11 sacks..
Missed the boat there. JP opposite MG? And a mentor/teacher to boot? Would have been a nice investment...
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Dorsey made it clear when he was hired that QB was top priority , he has no option with the 1st pick. It will be a QB ,so he has till draft day to figure which one. Tyrod Taylor will serve as the starter this year given Uncle Fester a quality QB that’s mobile, strong arm, doesn’t turn the ball over , and should work well with the new additions and should be able to win right out of the gate. Uncle Fester will have a very short leash if he doesn’t win he’s gone. Seeing the cost of starting QBs through free agency Dorsey made a brilliant move with Taylor knowing he can pick his QB at #1 to sit and learn for a year. A guy like Josh Allen would benefit most in this situation.
No amount of waiting has ever improved any QB's accuracy. You either have it or you don't. He doesn't.
No amount of waiting has ever improved any QB's accuracy. You either have it or you don't. He doesn't.
Let’s see here , looks like Tyrod Taylor had a 57% completion at Virginia Tech and 62% in the NFL , so based on your comments Tyrod must not have it either
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I kind of agree with his concerns about Sam darnold but worried a little bit more about Josh Allen. I would think if you want a good arm and accuracy Baker Mayfield might just be your guy. But anyway doesn't it seem like a bad deal to trade for 4 down 11 spots for a middle third and a middle fourth pick? One of you value experts got a grip on that one?
Unless we also get next year's number one...
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Why, in the back of my mind do I see the likes of Mike Phipps, Brandon Weeden and DeShone Kizer when think about Allen?
I honestly do not know who may turn out to be the best QB of this bunch of prospects...it could very well be that Cal is right....that Allen will be the second coming of Elway. If we take him....I certainly hope that would be true. But why do I think it would be more like the guys in that top line?
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I kind of agree with his concerns about Sam darnold but worried a little bit more about Josh Allen. I would think if you want a good arm and accuracy Baker Mayfield might just be your guy. But anyway doesn't it seem like a bad deal to trade for 4 down 11 spots for a middle third and a middle fourth pick? One of you value experts got a grip on that one?
Unless we also get next year's number one...
WSS
I kind of agree with his concerns about Sam darnold but worried a little bit more about Josh Allen. I would think if you want a good arm and accuracy Baker Mayfield might just be your guy. But anyway doesn't it seem like a bad deal to trade for 4 down 11 spots for a middle third and a middle fourth pick? One of you value experts got a grip on that one?
Unless we also get next year's number one...
Feels light as well here, Steve, but if you are not crazy about the value of the options at #4 vs. who you think at #15, then anything added is gravy. A trade to #15 that still nets us Denzel Ward works for me. I actually have him as the best CB in the Draft and in the mix, if we pick at #4 overall.
Of course nothing we do in the rest of the Draft matters if we blow our 1st overall on Josh Allen...
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