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  • Don't worry.. in 5 years GOD-del is gonna rename it the P.F.L...Pussy-Fied -League.

    IbleedbrownI Ibleedbrown wrote on last edited by
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    @nickers said:

    Don't worry.. in 5 years GOD-del is gonna rename it the P.F.L...Pussy-Fied -League.

    I get this line of thinking too. Be a man, pound chest and carry on. This way of thinking l suspect has reduced the burden on the healthcare industry since before it could be considered an industry. It’s not war though, it’s a sport for our entertainment. What cost should that carry?

  • jcam222J jcam222 wrote on last edited by
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    Some other outside the box ideas if in fact CTE is as prevalent as the hype suggests. 1)Implement an actual PDE testing program in college and the NFL. Return players to normal athletic human sizes. This would signicantly reduce the force of impact. If you think the current programs are effective your heads Buried so deep in the ground you can see China. 2) Decrease college careers to 2 years 3) Implement "term limits" by position in the NFL 

  • I suspect that the CTE reports grossly exaggerate the rate of occurrence. More importantly the "symptoms" can be driven by a host of other issues as well. Rage, depression, drug addiction, alcohol abuse, many of those can also be driven by being predisposed and on top of that years of steroid and pain pill abuse. I'm not suggesting that CTE doesn't cause issues, simply saying there is no direct correlation. It would be interesting to see data comparing rates of those symptoms in a larger data set of players vs. the general population. Here's a good article. https://www.google.com/amp/amp.slate.com/articles/sports/sports_nut/2017/07/the_press_is_overhyping_the_latest_study_on_cte_in_the_nfl.html

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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    @jcam222 said:

    I suspect that the CTE reports grossly exaggerate the rate of occurrence. More importantly the "symptoms" can be driven by a host of other issues as well. Rage, depression, drug addiction, alcohol abuse, many of those can also be driven by being predisposed and on top of that years of steroid and pain pill abuse. I'm not suggesting that CTE doesn't cause issues, simply saying there is no direct correlation. It would be interesting to see data comparing rates of those symptoms in a larger data set of players vs. the general population. Here's a good article. https://www.google.com/amp/amp.slate.com/articles/sports/sports_nut/2017/07/the_press_is_overhyping_the_latest_study_on_cte_in_the_nfl.html

    Agree... I do not believe there are too many instances of "Grandpa sure acts normal... maybe we should donate his brain to science."

    And again few brains have entered the data set since the advent of the era of Concussion Awareness.

  • Canton MikeC Canton Mike wrote on last edited by
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    I get so tired of all (what I call) "trick" solutions & talk...MAGNETS now?

    We can start with STRICT PENALTIES for cheap shots (especially to the head). I have long been an advocate of....

    1) Immediate ejection + next game penalty (I don't care if the "next game" is the Super Bowl!)

    2) In case of injury to the player hit, the offending player remains suspended for EVERY game the injured player misses due to injury PLUS 1 more game.

    I put all this on Roger. I also would like to know WHY the Shazier injury to himself (due to his own helmet leading hit) has not been used as an example of why improper tackling technique can cause serious injury. As tragic as the injury was, something positive could be gained from it, IF the NFL would get off their asses and address the REAL issue. Eliminate the dirty plays & players....fines & helmet technology aren't getting it done.

    Mike

  • Soccer will take over. 

    Football is going to slowly die as parents won’t sign their kids up for it.

    Then there will need to be an outdoor fall sport to replace the void, with Spanish soon to be the most spoken language in this country, it’s a no brainer

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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    @lionofbuddha said:

    Soccer will take over. 

    Football is going to slowly die as parents won’t sign their kids up for it.

    Then there will need to be an outdoor fall sport to replace the void, with Spanish soon to be the most spoken language in this country, it’s a no brainer

    Soccer is so boring it's pathetic.

  • @hoorta said:

    Besides, anyone that's played with magnets knows they have both an attractive and repulsive force. 

    lol... could bring a whole new meaning to "drawing the defense offsides."

    But seriously... if hits from one direction are repulsed, then...

    @calfoxwc said:

    magnets. I would think that if they did work, it would lead to serious neck injuries....

    Bingo... could rival some of the worst facemask grabs ever seen.

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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    @tour2ma said:

    lol... could bring a whole new meaning to "drawing the defense offsides."

    But seriously... if hits from one direction are repulsed, then...

    Bingo... could rival some of the worst facemask grabs ever seen.

    But how are they going to huddle up, did anybody else think about that, eh? 

    .......or maybe they'll just text each other from anywhere on the field, "MFL" the Millenials' Football League.  😆

    No need for any contact or interpersonal skills at all.

  • @lionofbuddha said:

    Soccer will take over. 

    Football is going to slowly die as parents won’t sign their kids up for it.

    Then there will need to be an outdoor fall sport to replace the void, with Spanish soon to be the most spoken language in this country, it’s a no brainer

    Soccer is so boring it's pathetic.

    L LionOfBuddha wrote on last edited by
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    @mjp28 said:

    Soccer is so boring it's pathetic.

    Yeah, that’s probably why it’s the most popular sport in the world 

  • @mjp28 said:

    Soccer is so boring it's pathetic.

    Yeah, that’s probably why it’s the most popular sport in the world 

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by mjp28
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    @lionofbuddha said:

    Yeah, that’s probably why it’s the most popular sport in the world 

    No its probably because it originated in and is largely  played in dirt poor countries all over the world. No uniforms or equipment necessary not even shoes just a ball. 

    And yes it's boring, unless you actually like 0-0, 1-0 games. "Recess for big kids", 😆

  • mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by mjp28
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    From The Worst Things in Sports thread......

    Just screen shot this, how does anyone watch this stuff? In this segment 6 games, 5 teams didn't even score, 3 ties? ZZZZzzzzzooooool.

    Screenshot_2018-02-26-08-01-48.png

  • @tour2ma said:

    lol... could bring a whole new meaning to "drawing the defense offsides."

    But seriously... if hits from one direction are repulsed, then...

    Bingo... could rival some of the worst facemask grabs ever seen.

    But how are they going to huddle up, did anybody else think about that, eh? 

    .......or maybe they'll just text each other from anywhere on the field, "MFL" the Millenials' Football League.  😆

    No need for any contact or interpersonal skills at all.

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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    @mjp28 said:

    But how are they going to huddle up, did anybody else think about that, eh? 

    lmao...

  • @mjp28 said:

    Soccer is so boring it's pathetic.

    Yeah, that’s probably why it’s the most popular sport in the world 

    DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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    @lionofbuddha said:

    Yeah, that’s probably why it’s the most popular sport in the world 

    Pussified world.

  • @lionofbuddha said:

    Yeah, that’s probably why it’s the most popular sport in the world 

    No its probably because it originated in and is largely  played in dirt poor countries all over the world. No uniforms or equipment necessary not even shoes just a ball. 

    And yes it's boring, unless you actually like 0-0, 1-0 games. "Recess for big kids", 😆

    L LionOfBuddha wrote on last edited by
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    @mjp28 said:

    No its probably because it originated in and is largely  played in dirt poor countries all over the world. No uniforms or equipment necessary not even shoes just a ball. 

    And yes it's boring, unless you actually like 0-0, 1-0 games. "Recess for big kids", 😆

    Dude, it’s is the most popular sport in every first world nation in europe. It’s not a poor man’s sport. Yes, it’s easy for poor kids to play, but people from all social backgrounds play it and love it. It’s going to be the biggest sport here too, eventually

  • mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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    Dude, it always has been a poor man's sport.

    The History Of Soccer

    More than 240 million people around the world play soccer regularly according to the Federation Internationale de Football Association (FIFA). The game has evolved from the sport of kicking a rudimentary animal-hide ball around into the World Cup sport it is today.

    Records trace the history of soccer back more than 2,000 years ago to ancient China. Greece, Rome, and parts of Central America also claim to have started the sport; but it was England that transitioned soccer, or what the British and many other people around the world call “football,” into the game we know today. The English are credited with recording the first uniform rules for the sport, including forbidding tripping opponents and touching the ball with hands.

    As the sport developed, more rules were implemented and more historical landmarks were set. For example, the penalty kick was introduced in 1891. FIFA became a member of the International Football Association Board of Great Britain in 1913. Red and yellow cards were introduced during the 1970 World Cup finals. More recent major changes include goalkeepers being banned from handling deliberate back passes in 1992 and tackles from behind becoming red-card penalties in 1998.

    Some of the top players throughout history include Pele (Edson Arantes Do Nascimento) from Brazil, who scored six goals in the 1958 World Cup and helped Brazil claim its first title; Lev Yashin from Russia, who claimed to have saved more than 150 penalty shots during his outstanding goal-tending career; and Marco Van Basten from Holland, who won several very prestigious soccer awards during one year alone. There are many debates over who the greatest soccer players are of all time; but players like Zinedine Zidane, Diego Maradona, Michel Platini, Lionel Messi, and Roberto Baggio make almost every list.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    And it's still boring and yes it will last because other countries will not adopt AMERICAN football, basketball, baseball or hockey as their national sport. Cheap, boring soccer is here to stay. 😴

  • @mjp28 said:

    No its probably because it originated in and is largely  played in dirt poor countries all over the world. No uniforms or equipment necessary not even shoes just a ball. 

    And yes it's boring, unless you actually like 0-0, 1-0 games. "Recess for big kids", 😆

    Dude, it’s is the most popular sport in every first world nation in europe. It’s not a poor man’s sport. Yes, it’s easy for poor kids to play, but people from all social backgrounds play it and love it. It’s going to be the biggest sport here too, eventually

    jcam222J jcam222 wrote on last edited by
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    @lionofbuddha said:

    Dude, it’s is the most popular sport in every first world nation in europe. It’s not a poor man’s sport. Yes, it’s easy for poor kids to play, but people from all social backgrounds play it and love it. It’s going to be the biggest sport here too, eventually

    Soccer will never be in the US what it is elsewhere without dramatic changes to increase offense by about 10 fold at the least. We are way to microwave and like high paced scoring sports. 

  • OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by Orion
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    Soccer is just plain boring.  So boring you think your teeth are gonna fall out.....and then they go to EXTRA time.  It's like a penance. 

    I DID hear a funny line while watching a game, the announcer was talking about one of the teams being so bad that, they were lucky to have nil.  🙂

  • @lionofbuddha said:

    Yeah, that’s probably why it’s the most popular sport in the world 

    No its probably because it originated in and is largely  played in dirt poor countries all over the world. No uniforms or equipment necessary not even shoes just a ball. 

    And yes it's boring, unless you actually like 0-0, 1-0 games. "Recess for big kids", 😆

    hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by
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    @mjp28 said:

    No its probably because it originated in and is largely  played in dirt poor countries all over the world. No uniforms or equipment necessary not even shoes just a ball. 

    And yes it's boring, unless you actually like 0-0, 1-0 games. "Recess for big kids", 😆

    Hockey isn't exactly a high scoring sport either. Soccer is essentially hockey played on a grass football field. Slow motion hockey if you like. 

    Nah- U.S. sport fans are just going to have to get used to the idea what we consider exciting isn't necessarily what the rest of the world does. False superiority complex. Put the shoe on the other foot and I'm sure a lot of the European nations wonder why America hasn't gotten on the soccer bandwagon yet. And you want to talk about crazy fans? Our diehard football fans are minor league compared to the riots they've had many times in soccer stands, with people getting killed.  World's most popular sport? Your numbers prove it. 240 million? That's about 70% of the entire population of the United States. 

    & FWIW, I played competitive tennis for years, and I can hardly stand watching it on the tube.  If soccer bores you - I get that. And if you don't think it takes skill- Chris Collisnworth told a story way back. Him and the Bengals were having a brew or three in a Cinci bar after a game- and a club soccer team was there doing the same. Bengals guys started ragging on the puss nature of the soccer guys. Oh yeah? You're on. Can't remember what the bet was for, but the Bengals guys quit when they were down 10-0.   😆

  • I'm pretty sure that whacking a fast moving soccer ball with your head is NOT gonna be good for your brain.  The elimination of the header is in soccer's future.

    L LondonBrown wrote on last edited by
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    @orion said:

    I'm pretty sure that whacking a fast moving soccer ball with your head is NOT gonna be good for your brain.  The elimination of the header is in soccer's future.

    Certainly an issue for the old timers but the balls are incredibly light now, which is evident in how it moves after the likes of Ronaldo strikes a dead ball.

  • Soccer is just plain boring.  So boring you think your teeth are gonna fall out.....and then they go to EXTRA time.  It's like a penance. 

    I DID hear a funny line while watching a game, the announcer was talking about one of the teams being so bad that, they were lucky to have nil.  🙂

    L LondonBrown wrote on last edited by LondonBrown
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    @orion said:

    Soccer is just plain boring.  So boring you think your teeth are gonna fall out.....and then they go to EXTRA time.  It's like a penance. 

    I DID hear a funny line while watching a game, the announcer was talking about one of the teams being so bad that, they were lucky to have nil.  🙂

    If you guys think Soccer is boring (when a NFL game, which I love, takes four hours) I dread the day you discover Cricket. . . 

  • @orion said:

    Soccer is just plain boring.  So boring you think your teeth are gonna fall out.....and then they go to EXTRA time.  It's like a penance. 

    I DID hear a funny line while watching a game, the announcer was talking about one of the teams being so bad that, they were lucky to have nil.  🙂

    If you guys think Soccer is boring (when a NFL game, which I love, takes four hours) I dread the day you discover Cricket. . . 

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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    @londonbrown said:

    If you guys think Soccer is boring (when a NFL game, which I love, takes four hours) I dread the day you discover Cricket. . . 

    Sometimes on a late summer night I have a beer outside and listen to their mating calls. I'm sure some of 'em score.😛

  • @londonbrown said:

    If you guys think Soccer is boring (when a NFL game, which I love, takes four hours) I dread the day you discover Cricket. . . 

    Sometimes on a late summer night I have a beer outside and listen to their mating calls. I'm sure some of 'em score.😛

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    @texasag1969 said:

    Sometimes on a late summer night I have a beer outside and listen to their mating calls. I'm sure some of 'em score.😛

    I prefer to watch fireflies....or lightning bugs....whichever you prefer

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