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  • @the-gipper said:

    And lets do this:   lets break this down similarly  just since 1999:

    24  First round picks:

    10 total on Offensive Skill players

    4 on  Offensive line

    10 on Defense.  

    So...again....remember,   Offensive skill players only constitute  6/22 starters.  or 21%

    The Browns have used  41.66% of their first round picks on  offensive skill players.  16.66% on offensive linemen.   And another 41.66 pct. on defense.  

    With these results:

    QBs:   4:   Couch, Quinn, Weeden, Manziel

    RBs:  2:  Richardson, Green

    WRs: 2:  Edwards and Coleman

    TEs: 2:   Winslow and Njoku

    OTs:  1:  Joe Thomas

    OCs: 3:   Jeff Faine, Alex Mack, Cam Erving

    DEs:  3:  Courtney Brown, Wimbley, Garrett

    DTs:  3:  Gerard Warren,  Phil Taylor, Danny Shelton

    LBs:  1:   Mingo

    DBs:  3:  Haden,  Gilbert, Peppers.

    So....again.....looking at these:  it is NOT  the number of high draft picks the Browns have employed on offensive skill players....it is the almost complete LACK of quality that they have gotten out of these picks.  They maybe got one decent year out of Richardson and Edwards.  Maybe a couple out of Couch...and that is IT.

    And note:   their picks on Defense have been about as bad as their offensive picks...ore worse.  Other than Haden, I dont' think a single other player there has made a single Pro Bowl.

    Jesus...compare that to their picks on the OL.   Three out of 4 of them were quality players.  Erving sucked...but the rest were good.   IF only the Browns had been able to get a similar ratio out of the multiplicity of picks they used on skill players....this team could perhaps have actually been something. 

    And their defensive picks may be worse than their offensive picks.  Other than Haden not a single Pro Bowl made by any of them....so far.   Peppers and Garrett need to show up and shine.

    The Shmucking OL is made up of lard butt, dime-a-dozen tools. YOu can find these jackoffs in the local porn shop.

    @ghoolie said:

    The Shmucking OL is made up of lard butt, dime-a-dozen tools. YOu can find these jackoffs in the local porn shop.

    And yet....they are the only guys drafted the Browns in this period that did their jobs at a decent level.  

    At least we can go to a porn shop and get them......we can't get skill players even at the porn shop....

    I mean, we keep picking what seem to be the best apples on the tree....yet they are all full of worms.

  • It befuddles me how many of you insist on attempt to debate a troll like Ghoolie. He isn't here to discuss the Browns, debate about the Browns, or share ideas about the Browns.

    He's literally here solely to get a rise out of Browns fans and to fill whatever hole in his life needs filled by getting attention. Perhaps he wasn't hugged enough as a child. Who knows, don't care. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    It befuddles me how many of you insist on attempt to debate a troll like Ghoolie. He isn't here to discuss the Browns, debate about the Browns, or share ideas about the Browns.

    He's literally here solely to get a rise out of Browns fans and to fill whatever hole in his life needs filled by getting attention. Perhaps he wasn't hugged enough as a child. Who knows, don't care. 

    You demeaned Ghoolie's knowledge of Steeler football history....yet I did not see you take up the challenge on the thread I posted.

  • @dutch-oven said:

    It befuddles me how many of you insist on attempt to debate a troll like Ghoolie. He isn't here to discuss the Browns, debate about the Browns, or share ideas about the Browns.

    He's literally here solely to get a rise out of Browns fans and to fill whatever hole in his life needs filled by getting attention. Perhaps he wasn't hugged enough as a child. Who knows, don't care. 

    A lot of what he says is spot on the money and you guys don't want to hear it. Tyrod is very much like Kiser but he is better.

    That's troubling because the only guy to draft in that mold is Lamar Jackson. 

    BT4

    @boo-fagley said:

    A lot of what he says is spot on the money and you guys don't want to hear it. Tyrod is very much like Kiser but he is better.

    That's troubling because the only guy to draft in that mold is Lamar Jackson. 

    BT4

    Are you high?.. Tyrod couldnt lick Kosars jock.. They are nothing like each other at all...

  • @boo-fagley said:

    A lot of what he says is spot on the money and you guys don't want to hear it. Tyrod is very much like Kiser but he is better.

    That's troubling because the only guy to draft in that mold is Lamar Jackson. 

    BT4

    Congrats.

    You've managed to lump three black guys together who are QBs. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Congrats.

    You've managed to lump three black guys together who are QBs. 

    Raciss?

    All 3 have similar styles of play. Deshaun Watson seemed to have adapted , but IIRC he was hurt running with the ball.

    The blue chip QBs are not really runners - Brees, Brady, Rogers, Ryan, 

  • @boo-fagley said:

    A lot of what he says is spot on the money and you guys don't want to hear it. Tyrod is very much like Kiser but he is better.

    That's troubling because the only guy to draft in that mold is Lamar Jackson. 

    BT4

    Are you high?.. Tyrod couldnt lick Kosars jock.. They are nothing like each other at all...

    @nickers said:

    Are you high?.. Tyrod couldnt lick Kosars jock.. They are nothing like each other at all...

    Kosar?

    What do you mean?

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Congrats.

    You've managed to lump three black guys together who are QBs. 

    Raciss?

    All 3 have similar styles of play. Deshaun Watson seemed to have adapted , but IIRC he was hurt running with the ball.

    The blue chip QBs are not really runners - Brees, Brady, Rogers, Ryan, 

    @boo-fagley said:

    Raciss?

    All 3 have similar styles of play. Deshaun Watson seemed to have adapted , but IIRC he was hurt running with the ball.

    The blue chip QBs are not really runners - Brees, Brady, Rogers, Ryan, 

    Aaron Rodgers, the guy with nearly 2700 rushing yards and  25 rushing TD's doesn't run? Good to know! Too bad he's not black though right?

  • @dutch-oven said:

    It befuddles me how many of you insist on attempt to debate a troll like Ghoolie. He isn't here to discuss the Browns, debate about the Browns, or share ideas about the Browns.

    He's literally here solely to get a rise out of Browns fans and to fill whatever hole in his life needs filled by getting attention. Perhaps he wasn't hugged enough as a child. Who knows, don't care. 

    You demeaned Ghoolie's knowledge of Steeler football history....yet I did not see you take up the challenge on the thread I posted.

    @the-gipper said:

    You demeaned Ghoolie's knowledge of Steeler football history....yet I did not see you take up the challenge on the thread I posted.

    I'm a Browns fan.

    Shmuck the Steelers, Shmuck their history, and Shmuck Ghoolie. 

  • @boo-fagley said:

    Raciss?

    All 3 have similar styles of play. Deshaun Watson seemed to have adapted , but IIRC he was hurt running with the ball.

    The blue chip QBs are not really runners - Brees, Brady, Rogers, Ryan, 

    Aaron Rodgers, the guy with nearly 2700 rushing yards and  25 rushing TD's doesn't run? Good to know! Too bad he's not black though right?

    @jrb12711 said:

    Aaron Rodgers, the guy with nearly 2700 rushing yards and  25 rushing TD's doesn't run? Good to know! Too bad he's not black though right?

    Fail

    525 rushing attempts divided by 149 games = 3.5 attempts per game.

    2670 rushing yards divided by 525 attempts = 5.1 yards a carry.

    3.5 attempts x 5.1 yac = 17.85 yards per game.

    Who knew NFL QBs ran to pick up 1st downs when passing plays break down. Is rushing the ball a big part of Rodgers game? Not on this planet.

    https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/RodgAa00.htm

  • @nickers said:

    Are you high?.. Tyrod couldnt lick Kosars jock.. They are nothing like each other at all...

    Kosar?

    What do you mean?

    @boo-fagley said:

    Kosar?

    What do you mean?

    My bad for the typo ... Though Kizer said Kosar. blame My eyes.. All the freakin meds don't help it any...,, .. But all the same.. Kizer is a turnover machine... At least Tyrod protects the ball..

  • Oh yes boo, I forgot.

    Kizer was a run-first QB (because he's black and that's what they all do, I suppose) who also held onto the ball too long and got himself sacked all the time.

    Makes absolutely no sense?

    Well welcome to this board!  

  • @ghoolie said:

    The Shmucking OL is made up of lard butt, dime-a-dozen tools. YOu can find these jackoffs in the local porn shop.

    And yet....they are the only guys drafted the Browns in this period that did their jobs at a decent level.  

    At least we can go to a porn shop and get them......we can't get skill players even at the porn shop....

    I mean, we keep picking what seem to be the best apples on the tree....yet they are all full of worms.

    @the-gipper said:

    And yet....they are the only guys drafted the Browns in this period that did their jobs at a decent level.  

    At least we can go to a porn shop and get them......we can't get skill players even at the porn shop....

    I mean, we keep picking what seem to be the best apples on the tree....yet they are all full of worms.

    They did a decent job? 1 - 31. Tell me about that "decent" job. Fukcking idiotic

  • @the-gipper said:

    You demeaned Ghoolie's knowledge of Steeler football history....yet I did not see you take up the challenge on the thread I posted.

    I'm a Browns fan.

    Shmuck the Steelers, Shmuck their history, and Shmuck Ghoolie. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    I'm a Browns fan.

    Shmuck the Steelers, Shmuck their history, and Shmuck Ghoolie. 

    The guy voted for Hillary. He is a liberal, a coward. When challenged on a topic, his lack of wit and wisdom find him attacking the poster. You posted a great Steeler trivia quiz. I didn't see him anywhere. Again, I have forgotten more about football that he has ever known.

  • @ghoolie said:

    Mcarron was not on Hue's radar long. He wanted him, the Browns bloew it, Hue moved on. Hue likes Black Tarkentons, Dokey DOES NOT.............all the great FA QBs have come and gone.... AGAIN............... we got the fukcker NOBODY wanted. TIE ROD.....................

    Hue Jackson still calls the shots. Haslam is afraid of being called a racist, that's how people are in TN, the over-compensate for blacks. Make no mistake, We got black Tarkenton because THAT is what Hue,   THE BOSS  waned. Dorsey is a coffee fetcher.

    Who were these "Great"   Free Agent QBs out there that we missed on?  Other than Drew Brees...who was an FA for a bit....but was never leaving N.O.....none of those QBs were by any means "great".

    Cousins?   lots of stats, losing record

    Keenum?  One flash of good....but most of his career a backup

    McCarron?  P-shaw!

    Again....name these great FA QBs that were possibly there for the Browns to get.

    @the-gipper said:

    Who were these "Great"   Free Agent QBs out there that we missed on?  Other than Drew Brees...who was an FA for a bit....but was never leaving N.O.....none of those QBs were by any means "great".

    Cousins?   lots of stats, losing record

    Keenum?  One flash of good....but most of his career a backup

    McCarron?  P-shaw!

    Again....name these great FA QBs that were possibly there for the Browns to get.

    We have Tie Rod. Checkmate.

  • @dutch-oven said:

    I'm a Browns fan.

    Shmuck the Steelers, Shmuck their history, and Shmuck Ghoolie. 

    The guy voted for Hillary. He is a liberal, a coward. When challenged on a topic, his lack of wit and wisdom find him attacking the poster. You posted a great Steeler trivia quiz. I didn't see him anywhere. Again, I have forgotten more about football that he has ever known.

    @ghoolie said:

    The guy voted for Hillary. He is a liberal, a coward. When challenged on a topic, his lack of wit and wisdom find him attacking the poster. You posted a great Steeler trivia quiz. I didn't see him anywhere. Again, I have forgotten more about football that he has ever known.

    You rambled on about how you schooled a Steelers fan on their history and couldn't even get through your self-congratulating spiel without making a mistake. Good thing the guy was dumber than you are.

    Lets never forget the fact that you were thrown off this board, but went and cried to your boy who runs it and begged to be allowed back on, because you need attention so, so much. How sad. How desperate. How Ghoolie.  

  • @dutch-oven said:

    It befuddles me how many of you insist on attempt to debate a troll like Ghoolie. He isn't here to discuss the Browns, debate about the Browns, or share ideas about the Browns.

    He's literally here solely to get a rise out of Browns fans and to fill whatever hole in his life needs filled by getting attention. Perhaps he wasn't hugged enough as a child. Who knows, don't care. 

    A lot of what he says is spot on the money and you guys don't want to hear it. Tyrod is very much like Kiser but he is better.

    That's troubling because the only guy to draft in that mold is Lamar Jackson. 

    BT4

    @boo-fagley said:

    A lot of what he says is spot on the money and you guys don't want to hear it. Tyrod is very much like Kiser but he is better.

    That's troubling because the only guy to draft in that mold is Lamar Jackson. 

    BT4 

     

    Boo, don't fret, but thanks for the props. People want the truth, UNTIL they realize that the truth exposes them as well, being full of schidt. My Father always put it this way, Dumb Kids don't like to play with smart kids. So when, as my posts often do, conventional wisdom is exposed as nothing more than bullschidt,  the lower IQ posters here (Dutch Oven, for example) get pissed off.

    Every year I have known Hoorta, he clenches his fists white and GUARANTEES ME that the Browns FINALLY have heir house in order.......... and that FINALLY we have THE RIGHT GUY calling the shots. They guy ruptured his Vulva when I guaranteed im that Holmgren, Sewage/Crennel, Policy, and more, were coffee fetchers.

    Do you believe me when I tell you that Dorkey is  Hue Jackson's testicle caretaker? Let me prove it to you, here and now, then, the jackoffs can make excuses for even though I was right about Hue lasting longer than Dorkey, it was for OTHER REASONS THAN WHAT I SAID. SO let's talk real life, and not this make-believe narrative, smoke-screen bullschidt that Hoorta believes.

    1) NOBODY in their right mind would take a GM job, put their reputation on the line, and willingly accept 0 - 31 Hue Jackson. Answer this............. Name me 1 single NFL team that would fire their coach and hire Hue Jackson. BUT BUT BUT............yet, this "wunderkiind", master craftsman Dorkey, is fine with Hue? Do you not find that a little fukcked up, and totally contrary to the image of Dorkey being a take-charge GM?

    2) As you pointed out, Hue Jackson went out of his way to acquire two black Tarkentons in the past. That the newest starter is also a black Tarkenton, and NOT a pocket passer, with solid intellectual skills, is a CLEAR INDICATION that Hue Jackson is the one who tells Dorkey what to do.

     3) THIS is the MOST telling. Did you see the NE offense when Tom Brady was suspended? They called the same basic plays, and ran the same type of offense. 

    So now, IF, as I am supposed to believe TieRod Tarkenton is just the bridge until we bring up a new kid................RED FLAGS ARE GOING UP EVERYWHERE.

    Rosen, Darnold and Mayfield are mostly classice pocket QBs, who can scramble, BUT win with their passing ability. The idea is that we draft one of the top three then they learn from TieRod? WTF? ? ? ? ? ? TieRod Tarkenton will create a certain type of offense. Plays and players will be selected for his style of play. Now, can yhou see Darnold, Mayfield or Rosen, stepping up into the shoes of TieRod and just taking over the offense that was built around him? Of course not. 

    Now, there are 2 possibilities here.

    a) The Browns are the dumbest bastards in the history of the NFL. They are going to put a run-first QB in to re-build, and then bring up a classic QB to play in that scenario. Really, you have to be dumber than donkey shidt

    b ) The Browns will trade #4 down and they will take Lamar Tarkenton. THEN........................... you hve a seasoned Tarkenton teaching a new tarkenton. 

    Rosen, Darnold, Mayfield? Being mentored by a improvisational, running QB?

    C'mon man, NOBODY can be that stupid.

  • https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/03/30/2018-draft-josh-allen-sam-darnold-tyrod-taylor-browns-bills

    Well Ryan seems to like him all right. Hope so. And I hope the rookie is the correct pick.

    WSS

  • @jrb12711 said:

    Aaron Rodgers, the guy with nearly 2700 rushing yards and  25 rushing TD's doesn't run? Good to know! Too bad he's not black though right?

    Fail

    525 rushing attempts divided by 149 games = 3.5 attempts per game.

    2670 rushing yards divided by 525 attempts = 5.1 yards a carry.

    3.5 attempts x 5.1 yac = 17.85 yards per game.

    Who knew NFL QBs ran to pick up 1st downs when passing plays break down. Is rushing the ball a big part of Rodgers game? Not on this planet.

    https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/RodgAa00.htm

    @boo-fagley said:

    Fail

    525 rushing attempts divided by 149 games = 3.5 attempts per game.

    2670 rushing yards divided by 525 attempts = 5.1 yards a carry.

    3.5 attempts x 5.1 yac = 17.85 yards per game.

    Who knew NFL QBs ran to pick up 1st downs when passing plays break down. Is rushing the ball a big part of Rodgers game? Not on this planet.

    https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/RodgAa00.htm

    What a studious man you are! Far be it from me to say a dude who literally had a national TV campaign based on him running in for touchdowns doesn't run well. I guess all that film of him doing it too is fake news right?

  • @boo-fagley said:

    A lot of what he says is spot on the money and you guys don't want to hear it. Tyrod is very much like Kiser but he is better.

    That's troubling because the only guy to draft in that mold is Lamar Jackson. 

    BT4 

     

    Boo, don't fret, but thanks for the props. People want the truth, UNTIL they realize that the truth exposes them as well, being full of schidt. My Father always put it this way, Dumb Kids don't like to play with smart kids. So when, as my posts often do, conventional wisdom is exposed as nothing more than bullschidt,  the lower IQ posters here (Dutch Oven, for example) get pissed off.

    Every year I have known Hoorta, he clenches his fists white and GUARANTEES ME that the Browns FINALLY have heir house in order.......... and that FINALLY we have THE RIGHT GUY calling the shots. They guy ruptured his Vulva when I guaranteed im that Holmgren, Sewage/Crennel, Policy, and more, were coffee fetchers.

    Do you believe me when I tell you that Dorkey is  Hue Jackson's testicle caretaker? Let me prove it to you, here and now, then, the jackoffs can make excuses for even though I was right about Hue lasting longer than Dorkey, it was for OTHER REASONS THAN WHAT I SAID. SO let's talk real life, and not this make-believe narrative, smoke-screen bullschidt that Hoorta believes.

    1) NOBODY in their right mind would take a GM job, put their reputation on the line, and willingly accept 0 - 31 Hue Jackson. Answer this............. Name me 1 single NFL team that would fire their coach and hire Hue Jackson. BUT BUT BUT............yet, this "wunderkiind", master craftsman Dorkey, is fine with Hue? Do you not find that a little fukcked up, and totally contrary to the image of Dorkey being a take-charge GM?

    2) As you pointed out, Hue Jackson went out of his way to acquire two black Tarkentons in the past. That the newest starter is also a black Tarkenton, and NOT a pocket passer, with solid intellectual skills, is a CLEAR INDICATION that Hue Jackson is the one who tells Dorkey what to do.

     3) THIS is the MOST telling. Did you see the NE offense when Tom Brady was suspended? They called the same basic plays, and ran the same type of offense. 

    So now, IF, as I am supposed to believe TieRod Tarkenton is just the bridge until we bring up a new kid................RED FLAGS ARE GOING UP EVERYWHERE.

    Rosen, Darnold and Mayfield are mostly classice pocket QBs, who can scramble, BUT win with their passing ability. The idea is that we draft one of the top three then they learn from TieRod? WTF? ? ? ? ? ? TieRod Tarkenton will create a certain type of offense. Plays and players will be selected for his style of play. Now, can yhou see Darnold, Mayfield or Rosen, stepping up into the shoes of TieRod and just taking over the offense that was built around him? Of course not. 

    Now, there are 2 possibilities here.

    a) The Browns are the dumbest bastards in the history of the NFL. They are going to put a run-first QB in to re-build, and then bring up a classic QB to play in that scenario. Really, you have to be dumber than donkey shidt

    b ) The Browns will trade #4 down and they will take Lamar Tarkenton. THEN........................... you hve a seasoned Tarkenton teaching a new tarkenton. 

    Rosen, Darnold, Mayfield? Being mentored by a improvisational, running QB?

    C'mon man, NOBODY can be that stupid.

    @ghoolie said:

    Boo, don't fret, but thanks for the props. People want the truth, UNTIL they realize that the truth exposes them as well, being full of schidt. My Father always put it this way, Dumb Kids don't like to play with smart kids. So when, as my posts often do, conventional wisdom is exposed as nothing more than bullschidt,  the lower IQ posters here (Dutch Oven, for example) get pissed off.

    Every year I have known Hoorta, he clenches his fists white and GUARANTEES ME that the Browns FINALLY have heir house in order.......... and that FINALLY we have THE RIGHT GUY calling the shots. They guy ruptured his Vulva when I guaranteed im that Holmgren, Sewage/Crennel, Policy, and more, were coffee fetchers.

    Do you believe me when I tell you that Dorkey is  Hue Jackson's testicle caretaker? Let me prove it to you, here and now, then, the jackoffs can make excuses for even though I was right about Hue lasting longer than Dorkey, it was for OTHER REASONS THAN WHAT I SAID. SO let's talk real life, and not this make-believe narrative, smoke-screen bullschidt that Hoorta believes.

    1) NOBODY in their right mind would take a GM job, put their reputation on the line, and willingly accept 0 - 31 Hue Jackson. Answer this............. Name me 1 single NFL team that would fire their coach and hire Hue Jackson. BUT BUT BUT............yet, this "wunderkiind", master craftsman Dorkey, is fine with Hue? Do you not find that a little fukcked up, and totally contrary to the image of Dorkey being a take-charge GM?

    2) As you pointed out, Hue Jackson went out of his way to acquire two black Tarkentons in the past. That the newest starter is also a black Tarkenton, and NOT a pocket passer, with solid intellectual skills, is a CLEAR INDICATION that Hue Jackson is the one who tells Dorkey what to do.

     3) THIS is the MOST telling. Did you see the NE offense when Tom Brady was suspended? They called the same basic plays, and ran the same type of offense. 

    So now, IF, as I am supposed to believe TieRod Tarkenton is just the bridge until we bring up a new kid................RED FLAGS ARE GOING UP EVERYWHERE.

    Rosen, Darnold and Mayfield are mostly classice pocket QBs, who can scramble, BUT win with their passing ability. The idea is that we draft one of the top three then they learn from TieRod? WTF? ? ? ? ? ? TieRod Tarkenton will create a certain type of offense. Plays and players will be selected for his style of play. Now, can yhou see Darnold, Mayfield or Rosen, stepping up into the shoes of TieRod and just taking over the offense that was built around him? Of course not. 

    Now, there are 2 possibilities here.

    a) The Browns are the dumbest bastards in the history of the NFL. They are going to put a run-first QB in to re-build, and then bring up a classic QB to play in that scenario. Really, you have to be dumber than donkey shidt

    b ) The Browns will trade #4 down and they will take Lamar Tarkenton. THEN........................... you hve a seasoned Tarkenton teaching a new tarkenton. 

    Rosen, Darnold, Mayfield? Being mentored by a improvisational, running QB?

    C'mon man, NOBODY can be that stupid.

    WRONG!!! LOL

    Am I the first to catch Ghoolie in a mistake??

    Jackson was 1-31....big difference!  I'm sure if Hugh was 0-32 Dorsey would have shown him the door! LOL

  • @the-gipper said:

    And yet....they are the only guys drafted the Browns in this period that did their jobs at a decent level.  

    At least we can go to a porn shop and get them......we can't get skill players even at the porn shop....

    I mean, we keep picking what seem to be the best apples on the tree....yet they are all full of worms.

    They did a decent job? 1 - 31. Tell me about that "decent" job. Fukcking idiotic

    @ghoolie said:

    They did a decent job? 1 - 31. Tell me about that "decent" job. Fukcking idiotic

    It is the failure of the skill players and the coach that brought us to one and 31 not these few offense of line Shmucking idiotIt is the failure of the skill players and the coach that brought us to one and 31 not these few offense of line Shmucking idio

  • @dutch-oven said:

    I'm a Browns fan.

    Shmuck the Steelers, Shmuck their history, and Shmuck Ghoolie. 

    The guy voted for Hillary. He is a liberal, a coward. When challenged on a topic, his lack of wit and wisdom find him attacking the poster. You posted a great Steeler trivia quiz. I didn't see him anywhere. Again, I have forgotten more about football that he has ever known.

    @ghoolie said:

    The guy voted for Hillary. He is a liberal, a coward. When challenged on a topic, his lack of wit and wisdom find him attacking the poster. You posted a great Steeler trivia quiz. I didn't see him anywhere. Again, I have forgotten more about football that he has ever known.

    Anyone it would for Trump is a gutless coward Shmucking idiotAnyone it would for Trump is a gutless coward Shmucking idiot