From nobody to the top of the first round of the draft - Josh Allen
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I was simply responding to Tour's previous joke about military grade barns, asswhole.
Here is what I said:
"Now, if you had rosen, he's be afraid of the barn and any critters in it. And if he did hit the barn with a football,
it would bounce back and give him a concussion and some banged up extremity. Then he would hate all barns, and
whine and bitch about wanting Congress to ban barns...."
I didn't bring politics into it, Tour did in a slight bit if humor, I responded in kind.
Yes, jblew, you screwed yourself up again.
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furthermore...Boller was nervous, had a lack of courage in the pocket in the pros, probably did in college, too.
You don't get nervous in the pocket when you love the game. Allen is the opposite. He loves the game, is cool in the pocket, despite not having a great team around him. He raised the level of play for Wyoming, to two bowl games. Truth is, Elway had cool outstanding leadership at qb, so does Allen.
Boller - nope. would get very nervous in the pocket. I'd called that not loving the challenge, not loving the game.
You won't find this said about boller:
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2018/profiles/josh-allen?id=2560029
Strengths
Prototype frame for pocket passer. Sturdy base allows him to shake off sacks and extend plays. Rare arm strength and overall arm talent. Has variety of release points if needed. Can uncork suddenly when it breaks open. Able to thread the needle with a rocket launcher. Makes throws that no other quarterback in college can make. Excellent thrower of deep outs. Able to outpace safeties to deep sideline throws. Aggressive pump-fakes open double moves. Turns into competent traffic director when scrambling. Can roll right and fling it down the field with impressive velocity and placement. Asked to read the entire field. No throw is too challenging. Has arm strength and mobility to create explosive plays when play goes off-schedule. Ability to challenge safeties over the top could help running games. Attacks intermediate windows with pretty good precision when allowed to sit down in the pocket. Has experience under center and operating in play-action passing attack. Willing to pull it and move the chains with his legs. Has experience in poor weather.
Within a couple of years, we learned that Boller's inaccuracy was not solely a result of the poor receivers at Cal, but also Kyle's occasional nervousness in the pocket, which forced his fundamentals to falter at critical times, and has left him a sub-60 percent completion guy thus far in his career.
So it didn't work out for Boller, or for me.
Cal,
I copied this from the 1st link you posted above. I believe you forgot to include this part....
NFL COMPARISON
Jake Locker
BOTTOM LINE
Likely be the biggest boom-or-bust quarterback prospect in the draft. Allen's size and arm talent are prototypical for early first-round picks, but it's rare to find a quarterback with such a low college completion rate become a successful pro. Allen's receivers struggled to separate, but there were plenty of times where his lack of anticipation and post-snap plan did him in. Allen can make some truly special throws, but his ability to improve the mental part of his game will determine whether he's a good NFL starter or just another big, strong-armed guy.
Sorry, but I'm not buying into Allen. The kid scares me.
Mike
Cal,
I copied this from the 1st link you posted above. I believe you forgot to include this part....
lmao... at least the edit is an indication that he actually read what he linked.
That's progress... of sorts...
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I was simply responding to Tour's previous joke about military grade barns, asswhole.
Here is what I said:
"Now, if you had rosen, he's be afraid of the barn and any critters in it. And if he did hit the barn with a football,
it would bounce back and give him a concussion and some banged up extremity. Then he would hate all barns, and
whine and bitch about wanting Congress to ban barns...."
I didn't bring politics into it, Tour did in a slight bit if humor, I responded in kind.
Yes, jblew, you screwed yourself up again.
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I was simply responding to Tour's previous joke about military grade barns, asswhole.
Here is what I said:
"Now, if you had rosen, he's be afraid of the barn and any critters in it. And if he did hit the barn with a football,
it would bounce back and give him a concussion and some banged up extremity. Then he would hate all barns, and
whine and bitch about wanting Congress to ban barns...."
I didn't bring politics into it, Tour did in a slight bit if humor, I responded in kind.
Yes, jblew, you screwed yourself up again.
I was simply responding to Tour's previous joke about military grade barns, asswhole.
Here is what I said:
"Now, if you had rosen, he's be afraid of the barn and any critters in it. And if he did hit the barn with a football,
it would bounce back and give him a concussion and some banged up extremity. Then he would hate all barns, and
whine and bitch about wanting Congress to ban barns...."
I didn't bring politics into it, Tour did in a slight bit if humor, I responded in kind.
Yes, jblew, you screwed yourself up again.
Amazing... barely 24 hours have passed and reality has already escaped cal's grasp.
Try again "asswhole"... here are the posts from the preceding page in the order in which they were posted as evidenced by the timestamps...
I like mine better, jb...
I"m sure they had dent-free barns.
FIFY...
nah. wooden barns are dent-free. Now, aluminum siding barns, sure, they dent. But not wooden barns.
Maybe if you back your combine into it, you might leave a scratch....
Now, if you had rosen, he's be afraid of the barn and any critters in it. And if he did hit the barn with a football,
it would bounce back and give him a concussion and some banged up extremity. Then he would hate all barns, and
whine and bitch about wanting Congress to ban barns....
Not all barns... just military-grade barns in civilian hands.
cal... time to demonstrate your claimed "grace" by apologizing to jblum...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
eh? jblew never deserves an apology,he's always been an asswhole.... but that was my mistake. I"m busy.
and I never promised you Allen haters a rose garden.
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So much for "grace"...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
quote:
"I never promised you a rose garden"
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I did not realize that in their March 1st, Top 100 Prospects PFF had given Allen a 2nd Round grade (#34 ranked player) and had 5 other QBs in Round 1 including:
- Mayfield at #1
- Darnold at #2
- Rosen at #6
- Rudolph at #15... way to go, Gip!
- Jackson at #23..
https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pff-draft-board-top-100-players-for-the-2018-nfl-draft
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paraphrase:
"Too busy.... to remember(?) or apparently care about the truth..."
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
nope - just went back nad made a mistake of looking back, went too fast.
no rose garden for you.
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I'm just glad that we were able to confirm that cal's deep hatred of Rosen obviously has nothing to do with politics.
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I was simply responding to Tour's previous joke about military grade barns, asswhole.
Here is what I said:
"Now, if you had rosen, he's be afraid of the barn and any critters in it. And if he did hit the barn with a football,
it would bounce back and give him a concussion and some banged up extremity. Then he would hate all barns, and
whine and bitch about wanting Congress to ban barns...."
I didn't bring politics into it, Tour did in a slight bit if humor, I responded in kind.
Yes, jblew, you screwed yourself up again.
Amazing... barely 24 hours have passed and reality has already escaped cal's grasp.
Try again "asswhole"... here are the posts from the preceding page in the order in which they were posted as evidenced by the timestamps...
I like mine better, jb...
I"m sure they had dent-free barns.
FIFY...
nah. wooden barns are dent-free. Now, aluminum siding barns, sure, they dent. But not wooden barns.
Maybe if you back your combine into it, you might leave a scratch....
Now, if you had rosen, he's be afraid of the barn and any critters in it. And if he did hit the barn with a football,
it would bounce back and give him a concussion and some banged up extremity. Then he would hate all barns, and
whine and bitch about wanting Congress to ban barns....
Not all barns... just military-grade barns in civilian hands.
cal... time to demonstrate your claimed "grace" by apologizing to jblum...
Amazing... barely 24 hours have passed and reality has already escaped cal's grasp.
Try again "asswhole"... here are the posts from the preceding page in the order in which they were posted as evidenced by the timestamps...
cal... time to demonstrate your claimed "grace" by apologizing to jblum...
eh? jblew never deserves an apology,he's always been an asswhole.... but that was my mistake. I"m busy.
and I never promised you Allen haters a rose garden.
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"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
This thought just occurred to me as being the summation of why I cannot get behind Allen...
Collegiate QB prospects are far more likely to fail down than they are to fail up.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
https://twitter.com/MikeClayNFL/status/960169194372452352
Mike Clay@MikeClayNFLWorst final FBS season off-target rates among top QB prospects last 3 years:
Josh Allen 16.3%
DeShone Kizer 14.5%
Jeff Driskel 14.4%
Connor Cook 13.5%
C Hackenberg 13.4%Worst final FBS season off-target rates among top QB prospects last 3 years: Josh Allen 16.3% DeShone Kizer 14.5% Jeff Driskel 14.4% Connor Cook 13.5% C Hackenberg 13.4%
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so, AGAIN...it's getting boring with the hate. from your own link:
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redzone @Covertwo81 13h13 hours ago
Replying to @MikeClayNFLAllen's last 5 games-10 TDs, 0 interceptions and the bad play by the other 3 qbs last game, and his poor supporting cast, lack of short passes & shotgun to pad stats like the others. Players improve & he changed mechanics & improved.
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kizer played at NOTRE DAME. doesn't see the field.
driskel played at FLORIDA and LOUISIANA TECH
connor cook played at MICHIGAN STATE
hackenburg played at PENN STATE
who were their wr's? offensive line? te's? running backs? type of offense?
Allen took little Wyoming to two bowl games on his shoulders.
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