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  • @canton-mike said:

    This brought to mind a funny EKG memory. Back in the '70s, while working in patient accounts mgmt at Aultman Hospital in Canton, the husband of one of my employees was admitted to have a circumcision done (he was in his 30s). My boss & I snuck a 6 pack into his room & after we each drank 2, a knock came on the door, which we had locked. It was a Tech to do an EKG. Of course, we excused ourselves & left, laughing. Next morning my boss, John, & I were still chuckling about our "good deed" when the patient's wife walked in & demanded to know what the hell we had done to Tim cuz his EKG was "all f**ked up!". Those damned things can be sensitive!

    Obviously, that was before DRGs, PPOs, HIPPA, etc, etc. back when life was still fun & laughter wasn't offensive. I miss those days but treasure the memories.

    Mike

    Just when I wondered how many acronyms could an american use in a single post... 🙄

    @nero said:

    Just when I wondered how many acronyms could an american use in a single post... 🙄

    Exactly why American English is the most difficult language to learn.  😉

    Mike

  • As unenthused as I was at the idea of drafting Peppers last season, I'm enthused at the idea of drafting Hurst. 

    Like Woody said, he's the anti-Shelton... Gotta think Williams would love to add him. 

  • @nero said:

    Just when I wondered how many acronyms could an american use in a single post... 🙄

    Exactly why American English is the most difficult language to learn.  😉

    Mike

    @canton-mike said:

    Exactly why American English is the most difficult language to learn.  😉

    Mike

    No it's the idioms that do it................................opps I let the cat out of the bag.🙄

  • As unenthused as I was at the idea of drafting Peppers last season, I'm enthused at the idea of drafting Hurst. 

    Like Woody said, he's the anti-Shelton... Gotta think Williams would love to add him. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    As unenthused as I was at the idea of drafting Peppers last season, I'm enthused at the idea of drafting Hurst. 

    Like Woody said, he's the anti-Shelton... Gotta think Williams would love to add him. 

    There should be more enthusiasm now that he'll be in position. Especially if you just look at the two games we had him there at the end of last season.

  • @dutch-oven said:

    As unenthused as I was at the idea of drafting Peppers last season, I'm enthused at the idea of drafting Hurst. 

    Like Woody said, he's the anti-Shelton... Gotta think Williams would love to add him. 

    There should be more enthusiasm now that he'll be in position. Especially if you just look at the two games we had him there at the end of last season.

    @mld-woody said:

    There should be more enthusiasm now that he'll be in position. Especially if you just look at the two games we had him there at the end of last season.

    I didn't really notice that much of an improvement to be honest, but whatever, the kid was put in a dumb situation that he didn't cause. Kind of like Kizer. 

    Thrilled he'll be at strong safety from Day 1 of this season. 

  • @tiamat63 said:

    My thoughts on Mo are pretty well stated.     I think he falls outside the first because, though while cleared, you'll still have GM's with the "buuuuuut" in the back of their mind.    Be that the case then I'm all for it.  Having him and Brantley on the inside in sub packages intrigues the Shmuck out of me.  

    I think he'll still go late first because teams are looking for interior pressure. I agree though, that pairing him with our DL now is intriguing. He'd be a luxury pick though.

    @mld-woody said:

    I think he'll still go late first because teams are looking for interior pressure. I agree though, that pairing him with our DL now is intriguing. He'd be a luxury pick though.

    Not seeing the luxury unless we go Chubb at #4. IMO a gap-shootin', 3-tech DT is just what the Dr. ordered for our pass rush.

  • @mld-woody said:

    I think he'll still go late first because teams are looking for interior pressure. I agree though, that pairing him with our DL now is intriguing. He'd be a luxury pick though.

    Not seeing the luxury unless we go Chubb at #4. IMO a gap-shootin', 3-tech DT is just what the Dr. ordered for our pass rush.

    @tour2ma said:

    Not seeing the luxury unless we go Chubb at #4. IMO a gap-shootin', 3-tech DT is just what the Dr. ordered for our pass rush.

    I just think we have bigger needs. But if Mo starts to fall, it would be a steal. 

  • At this point I'll take any kind of QB pressure from where ever I can find it.   Interior? Great?  Edge? Works for me.        We just need to affect the QB more than we have without having to send additional rushers.  

  • I did not realize that Hurst was the #3 player on PFF's Top 100 draft board... https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pff-draft-board-top-100-players-for-the-2018-nfl-draft

    3. Maurice Hurst, Michigan – interior defender

    The prototypical 3-technique defensive tackle, Hurst offers a pass-rushing toolbox that no other interior player in this class can come close to matching. His four-year career of grades is unlike anything we’ve ever seen at the defensive tackle position, proving his durability and sustainability at the position. – Mike Renner (@PFF_Mike)

  • PFF loves Mo

  • And speak of the devil... Maurice is coming for a visit.

    Michigan defensive tackle Maurice Hurst (6-foot-2, 282) and Central Arkansas cornerback Tremon Smith (6-foot, 190) will take a pre-draft visit to the Cleveland Browns according to Sirius XM Radio and The Houston Chronicle.

    https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/Bolt/NFL-Draft-Browns-lock-in-visits-with-Maurice-Hurst-Tremon-Smith-116883519

  • Safe to say Hurst isn't worth the 4th overall pick, but won't be around for #33?

  • Safe to say Hurst isn't worth the 4th overall pick, but won't be around for #33?

    @dutch-oven said:

    Safe to say Hurst isn't worth the 4th overall pick, but won't be around for #33?

    Not necessarily - before the heart I said late 1st. 20-25ish.   Not unrealistic to expect him available at 33 or 35

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Safe to say Hurst isn't worth the 4th overall pick, but won't be around for #33?

    Not necessarily - before the heart I said late 1st. 20-25ish.   Not unrealistic to expect him available at 33 or 35

    @tiamat63 said:

    Not necessarily - before the heart I said late 1st. 20-25ish.   Not unrealistic to expect him available at 33 or 35

    Would you be interested in him there tia?

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Not necessarily - before the heart I said late 1st. 20-25ish.   Not unrealistic to expect him available at 33 or 35

    Would you be interested in him there tia?

    @dutch-oven said:

    Would you be interested in him there tia?

    Depends on how the first round goes. 

    edit:  Most likely a big yes.  

  • Safe to say Hurst isn't worth the 4th overall pick, but won't be around for #33?

    @dutch-oven said:

    Safe to say Hurst isn't worth the 4th overall pick, but won't be around for #33?

    I would consider him at #4...

  • It really all depends on how much stock they put in his heart getting flagged at the combine. Before that point, most people had him in the first, some even high first. I don't think I'd bank on him being around in the 2nd

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Safe to say Hurst isn't worth the 4th overall pick, but won't be around for #33?

    I would consider him at #4...

    @tour2ma said:

    I would consider him at #4...

    7 spots higher than where Aaron Donald was taken?

    Ehhhh.......  

  • @mld-woody said:

    No, we've been over this. He had an irregular EKG or something that easily flagged at the combine. It then came out this was found out Michigan too, but he was cleared to play. NFL doctors have cleared him to play as well. While some GMs may be scared away, all indications say he's fine. 

    PFF likes him a lot too. 

    What do you mean NO?

    The answer is YES:   A.  Yes...he apparently did have  a heart issue....even if it is supposedly "cleared"  and YES....it could very well affect  where he would get picked. 

    He was rated a possible Top Ten pick.   With this info....he may still be a Top Ten pick....Top Ten in the second or third round.

    @the-gipper said:

    What do you mean NO?

    The answer is YES:   A.  Yes...he apparently did have  a heart issue....even if it is supposedly "cleared"  and YES....it could very well affect  where he would get picked. 

    He was rated a possible Top Ten pick.   With this info....he may still be a Top Ten pick....Top Ten in the second or third round.

    Not all irregular EKGs are significant Gip.   

    @nero said:

    Just when I wondered how many acronyms could an american use in a single post... 🙄

    I hope you got the EKG (electro cardio gram) part.  DRG- Diagnosis related group. (broken arm). PPO preferred provider organization. HIPAA (Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act) Essentially USA privacy rights- you have to have a need to know before they release medical information. I couldn't even reorder my wife's prescriptions without her signing a form authorizing me to do so. Hehe- back in the good old 70s we had a celebrity patient in our hospital- George Carlin was in a car accident, and I mean everyone knew about it,  what room he was in & what was wrong with him. Now, you can get fired for spreading that information. 

  • @tour2ma said:

    I would consider him at #4...

    7 spots higher than where Aaron Donald was taken?

    Ehhhh.......  

    @tiamat63 said:

    7 spots higher than where Aaron Donald was taken?

    Ehhhh.......  

    But now people are chasing for Donald 2.0