Darnold at #1?
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https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/03/30/2018-draft-josh-allen-sam-darnold-tyrod-taylor-browns-bills
Notice how he automatically assumes Browns will take Darnold at 1. All these articles say this qb is great and that qb is great, however they all say Darnold is clearly #1. Everybody knows #1 is Darnold. Which means Browns will pick Allen.
Notice how he automatically assumes Browns will take Darnold at 1. All these articles say this qb is great and that qb is great, however they all say Darnold is clearly #1. Everybody knows #1 is Darnold. Which means Browns will pick Allen.
If the Browns take Allen I will throw up and conclude the f'n Browns are still losers. Then I will chant, "Hold that clipboard, hold that clipboard................" Followed by, "Let's go Tyrod, let's go Tyrod........."
I won't like the pick but I will support his development and I think we have the experienced QBs to do it over several years in Taylor and Stanton.
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Notice how he automatically assumes Browns will take Darnold at 1. All these articles say this qb is great and that qb is great, however they all say Darnold is clearly #1. Everybody knows #1 is Darnold. Which means Browns will pick Allen.
If the Browns take Allen I will throw up and conclude the f'n Browns are still losers. Then I will chant, "Hold that clipboard, hold that clipboard................" Followed by, "Let's go Tyrod, let's go Tyrod........."
I won't like the pick but I will support his development and I think we have the experienced QBs to do it over several years in Taylor and Stanton.
I won't like the pick but I will support his development and I think we have the experienced QBs to do it over several years in Taylor and Stanton.
30, 40?
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I won't like the pick but I will support his development and I think we have the experienced QBs to do it over several years in Taylor and Stanton.
30, 40?
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About the length of time Rodgers held the clipboard at Green Bay.
I remember Kurt Warner saying that leaving the Packers was the best decission he had ever made. What could have we missed had he waited for Favre!
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If you go back I said virtually no coaching and bad coaching in terms of play calling and fundamentals. Sam was winning and the coach said didn't want to tinker with a winning formula and pretty much left him alone.
He played 1 full season of high school qb and 24 games in college. That is what I am talking about in terms of not having coaching & experience.
Maybe he has not played enough to form a habit that can be coached out of.
Since this debates has been about why and how Darnold is the best fit I was offering my perspective, since I have watched more games and read about his rise than anyone here.
Here's my rankings
against toughest competition:
Baker 1 @ohio st. Georgia
Darnold 2 ohio st. Bama, ND 2times, @washington last year schedule considered toughest in the cf.
Jackson 3
Rosen 4 no signature wins
Allen 5 played basically nobody
Accuracy:
Baker consensus 1 but air raid system
Darnold 2 clutch when the game is on the line.
Rosen 3 haven't made much clutch throws in victory besides weak A&M game.
Jackson & Allen pickbyour poison
Mobility
Jackson 1
Darnold 2a
Allen 2b
Baker 3
Rosen 4
Arm talent
Allen is clearly 1 and the rest about the same.
Allen 1
Rosen, darnold, baker, jackson all have nfl arms so no issues here.
Mechanics
Rosen 1
Baker 2
Darnold & allen 3
Jackson 4
Intengibles "it" factor
Darnold 1
Baker 2
Jackson 3
Allen 4
Rosen 5
Toughness/not injury prone
Darnold 1
Baker 1
jackson 2 too light
Allen 2
Rosen 3
Citizenship-locker room- leadership
Darnold 1
Jackson 2 won games single handedly.
Baker 2 ran away from cops. Socky led his team to wins
Allen 3 hasn't done much
Rosen 4 frequently lost against less talented teams.
I would rank
Darnold 1
Baker 2
Rosen 3
Allen 4
Jackson 5
Here's my rankings
against toughest competition:
Baker 1 @ohio st. Georgia
Darnold 2 ohio st. Bama, ND 2times, @washington last year schedule considered toughest in the cf.
AGREED^^
Accuracy:
Baker consensus 1 but air raid system (so, fire the coach). Baker does not hang ball to inside defender.
Darnold 2 clutch when the game is on the line.
Mobility
Jackson 1
Darnold 2a
Allen 2b
Baker 3 (Baker is far better than Allen ^^)
Rosen 4
Arm talent (have all the arm talent you want. Only matters if it hits it's Targets..Baker was rated #1.)
Allen is clearly 1 and the rest about the same.
Allen 1
Rosen, darnold, baker, jackson all have nfl arms so no issues here.
Mechanics (agreed)
Rosen 1
Baker 2
Darnold & allen 3
Jackson 4
Intengibles "it" factor
He's got to play in Cleveland..Baker my Far!! ya homer..
Darnold 1
Baker 2
Jackson 3
Allen 4
Rosen 5
Toughness/not injury prone ( Agree..Reason most call Darnold the safest pick. size & age & growing ceiling)
Darnold 1
Baker 1
jackson 2 too light
Allen 2
Rosen 3
Citizenship-locker room- leadership (another So-cal homer call..Who's got the nerve, not the babyface to trash Harrison/Suggs/Tomlin? Sam may Cry
Darnold 1
Jackson 2 won games single handedly.
Baker 2 ran away from cops. Socky led his team to wins
Allen 3 hasn't done much
Rosen 4 frequently lost against less talented teams.
I would rank
Darnold 1 BAKER
Baker 2 ROSEN---HAS simply NO FIT IN frozen CLEVELAND..DORSEY WILL PASS, leaving only Baker or Darnold
Rosen 3 DARNOLD
Allen 4 ALLEN
Jackson 5 RUDOLPH/Kyle Laletta anybody not named Jackson
a ACC opinion.^^^.WE laugh at.. Lamar Jackson could be the next Deshawn Watson in the NFL..Lamar's MoM is his agent..
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This is what I am talking about in terms of coaching ineptitude in terms of some of his interception issues.
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Darnold No. 1 most likely.
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Happy Easter!! let us pray..
He has a face only a mother could love.
Zombo said:
At 4:55 Ash, I've seen Sam Darnold & Big Ben pump fake that defender to bite than complete pass..Not with 8 sacks dancing in his head & turning the ball over like a Pez Dispenser
..Watch Greg Cosell change your guys diaper talking Sam Darnold here Ashtabula..
next..
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You looked in on that other section enough to know that logic has nothing to do with cal's posts when he's attacking someone... matters not what that someone is a candidate for. Browns QB or President... same same.
It goes no deeper than him comparing the worst QB prospect he can think of to the QB prospect he likes least.
You should have stopped with being USC biased... Instead now you are on the thin ice of:
- bad coaching ---> ingrained bad habits...
- but all are fixable because of want to...
- as exhibited by "improvements" since his last, 11-on-11 game in his 2-on-0, Pro-day, beauty pageant.... AND....
- The only true measure of a QB on a 22-man team is W/L ratio...
That about sum it up?
In this article which is about Mayfield pretty much says Baker and Sam is the most accurate and the rest are far behind.
https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/03/22/baker-mayfield-advance-analytics-nfl-draft-oklahoma-pff
In this article which is about Mayfield pretty much says Baker and Sam is the most accurate and the rest are far behind.
First... decent post... the one with some attempted detail behind. But you have a tendency to wander off topic, e.g., wandering into a clutch throw count in a section about accuracy. Why do I get the feeling you've not seen anywhere near the throws of any prospect not named Darnold? Anyway...
The solace I have tried to find in the inevitability that is Sam at #1 is that he has posted numbers despite being very flawed. Where I keep getting lost is in the knowledge that the NFL only magnifies flaws.
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Has anyone given thought to what happens if Tyrod has a year like he typically does and we win like 6 games? Currently we have Tyrod for 1 year, but if our team goes from 0 wins to 6 in one year, and Tyrod plays well, how do you insert your #1 pick into the lineup? When does our drafted rookie get game experience? We already know the "plan" is to start Tyrod, and if history is any indication, Tyrod should have a pretty decent season. He might throw for 18 tds and 7 picks, while running for another 3-4 scores. If we're able to run the ball at all (hahaha, funny), those numbers could be enough to propel us to a good amount of victories. Also, keep in mind that Tyrod is just playing on a 1 year contract, so he's going to aim to impress and give it his all.
If our fan base tastes anything CLOSE to .500 football, how do you start anybody else in 2019? I mean, do you HAVE to start the rookie just because you drafted him #1? Tyrod is certainly a safe-style QB, but he didn't exactly have an overwhelming support cast, either. In fact, I'd say that our offensive players are superior to Buffalo's, and that's before the draft. Can Hue and Haley bring Tyrod out of his safety, cautious shell? Can he actually be MORE than a bridge type QB, and what happens then? I feel like people are quickly writing off Tyrod to be just a guy holding the fort until our rookie is ready, but I'm of the belief that he's more than that, and we could have a little predicament in Cleveland.
Keep in mind, we're 1-31 in 2 years. If a QB comes along and takes us to being competitive, perhaps contending for a wildcard into November, our fans are going to be buying Tyrod jerseys and celebrating the ground he walks on. Don't believe me? Just wait and see if it happens. I realize we can't technically count on Josh Gordon, but he's on our team right now, and so is Jarvis Landry. You add in Duke and Njoku, and even Corey Coleman and Seth Devalve, we have an offense with legitimate weapons a defense actually has to prepare for. Crazy, right? How does a QB like Tyrod perform with a down-field weapon, a premier 3rd down receiver, a shifty RB receiver, and a pass-catching TE? I'm of the mind that he's going to do very well, and THEN what?
Obviously anything can happen. Teams like the Eagles and Seahawks had no intention of playing THEIR rookie QBs, but it didn't turn out that way. We weren't planning on playing Kessler, but we know how THAT played out. But let's pretend that a plan ACTUALLY works for us. Let's just try to see what a season with Tyrod and the gang looks like, and to me, it looks pretty good. I'll never forget how awful these last few seasons were, and if we truly are a decent team, I'm not going to be in a hurry to play a young guy just because he was drafted #1.
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Has anyone given thought to what happens if Tyrod has a year like he typically does and we win like 6 games? Currently we have Tyrod for 1 year, but if our team goes from 0 wins to 6 in one year, and Tyrod plays well, how do you insert your #1 pick into the lineup? When does our drafted rookie get game experience? We already know the "plan" is to start Tyrod, and if history is any indication, Tyrod should have a pretty decent season. He might throw for 18 tds and 7 picks, while running for another 3-4 scores. If we're able to run the ball at all (hahaha, funny), those numbers could be enough to propel us to a good amount of victories. Also, keep in mind that Tyrod is just playing on a 1 year contract, so he's going to aim to impress and give it his all.
If our fan base tastes anything CLOSE to .500 football, how do you start anybody else in 2019? I mean, do you HAVE to start the rookie just because you drafted him #1? Tyrod is certainly a safe-style QB, but he didn't exactly have an overwhelming support cast, either. In fact, I'd say that our offensive players are superior to Buffalo's, and that's before the draft. Can Hue and Haley bring Tyrod out of his safety, cautious shell? Can he actually be MORE than a bridge type QB, and what happens then? I feel like people are quickly writing off Tyrod to be just a guy holding the fort until our rookie is ready, but I'm of the belief that he's more than that, and we could have a little predicament in Cleveland.
Keep in mind, we're 1-31 in 2 years. If a QB comes along and takes us to being competitive, perhaps contending for a wildcard into November, our fans are going to be buying Tyrod jerseys and celebrating the ground he walks on. Don't believe me? Just wait and see if it happens. I realize we can't technically count on Josh Gordon, but he's on our team right now, and so is Jarvis Landry. You add in Duke and Njoku, and even Corey Coleman and Seth Devalve, we have an offense with legitimate weapons a defense actually has to prepare for. Crazy, right? How does a QB like Tyrod perform with a down-field weapon, a premier 3rd down receiver, a shifty RB receiver, and a pass-catching TE? I'm of the mind that he's going to do very well, and THEN what?
Obviously anything can happen. Teams like the Eagles and Seahawks had no intention of playing THEIR rookie QBs, but it didn't turn out that way. We weren't planning on playing Kessler, but we know how THAT played out. But let's pretend that a plan ACTUALLY works for us. Let's just try to see what a season with Tyrod and the gang looks like, and to me, it looks pretty good. I'll never forget how awful these last few seasons were, and if we truly are a decent team, I'm not going to be in a hurry to play a young guy just because he was drafted #1.
Has anyone given thought to what happens if Tyrod has a year like he typically does and we win like 6 games?
Yes.
Having said that, are you aware he's never won less than 7 games as a starter in spite of not playing all 16 weeks?
In 2015, he was 7-6 with 20 TD passes to 6 INTs with a passer rating of 99.4 and comp% of 63.7
In 2016, he was 7-8 with 17 TD passes to 6 INTs w/ a passer rating of 89.7 and comp%of 61.7
In 2017, he was 8-6 with 14 TD passes to 4 INTs w/ a passer rating of 89.2 and a comp% of 62.6
If Taylor can give us the same above .500 winning percentage he gave Buffalo while preventing turnovers like an Alex Smith with decent passer ratings and completion percentages; we don't have to race another rookie QB onto the field way before he's ready. That wouldn't suck so I'm in favor of giving the guy a chance.
On the other hand, if Taylor is as disappointing as you expect him to be (or worse), my guess is there won't be enough reasons to keep the QB talent we invested in at #1 overall off the field in the 2nd half of the 2018 season. If Taylor gets hurt really early on in the year, that's when I think we'd look to Drew Stanton (which excites me a lot less than Taylor does).
3rd scenario, the QB we draft at #1 WINS the job in training camp in spite of pre-draft Coach speak. Seattle once announced Matt Flynn would be their 2014 starter pre-draft before the QB they drafted beat him out in training camp. Jax also announced Blake Bortles&James wouldn't see the field as a rookie before he started 14 games. We'll have to see how this thing plays out. While we're doing so, I think Dorsey has us well prepared for many scenarios that could unfold.
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Has anyone given thought to what happens if Tyrod has a year like he typically does and we win like 6 games?
Yes.
Having said that, are you aware he's never won less than 7 games as a starter in spite of not playing all 16 weeks?
In 2015, he was 7-6 with 20 TD passes to 6 INTs with a passer rating of 99.4 and comp% of 63.7
In 2016, he was 7-8 with 17 TD passes to 6 INTs w/ a passer rating of 89.7 and comp%of 61.7
In 2017, he was 8-6 with 14 TD passes to 4 INTs w/ a passer rating of 89.2 and a comp% of 62.6
If Taylor can give us the same above .500 winning percentage he gave Buffalo while preventing turnovers like an Alex Smith with decent passer ratings and completion percentages; we don't have to race another rookie QB onto the field way before he's ready. That wouldn't suck so I'm in favor of giving the guy a chance.
On the other hand, if Taylor is as disappointing as you expect him to be (or worse), my guess is there won't be enough reasons to keep the QB talent we invested in at #1 overall off the field in the 2nd half of the 2018 season. If Taylor gets hurt really early on in the year, that's when I think we'd look to Drew Stanton (which excites me a lot less than Taylor does).
3rd scenario, the QB we draft at #1 WINS the job in training camp in spite of pre-draft Coach speak. Seattle once announced Matt Flynn would be their 2014 starter pre-draft before the QB they drafted beat him out in training camp. Jax also announced Blake Bortles&James wouldn't see the field as a rookie before he started 14 games. We'll have to see how this thing plays out. While we're doing so, I think Dorsey has us well prepared for many scenarios that could unfold.
are you aware he's never won less than 7 games as a starter in spite of not playing all 16 weeks?
Are you aware he's never started a game for the Browns?
Has anyone given thought to what happens if Tyrod has a year like he typically does and we win like 6 games? When does our drafted rookie get game experience?
If our fan base tastes anything CLOSE to .500 football, how do you start anybody else in 2019? I mean, do you HAVE to start the rookie just because you drafted him #1?
Tyrod is certainly a safe-style QB, but he didn't exactly have an overwhelming support cast, either. In fact, I'd say that our offensive players are superior to Buffalo's, and that's before the draft. Can Hue and Haley bring Tyrod out of his safety, cautious shell?
Assuming our rookie QB is ready, then he starts once we are eliminated from playoff contention. Possibly earlier if TT is injured, Stanton loses a couple and we are in "still-in-the-hunt-but-clearly-nothing-left-to-lose" mode.
Because .500 means nothing in the grand scheme?
First, does Tyrod have another mode? Second, of Hue and Haley, only one has experience in trying to get his QB(s) to take more risk... and that did not go too well.
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In this article which is about Mayfield pretty much says Baker and Sam is the most accurate and the rest are far behind.
First... decent post... the one with some attempted detail behind. But you have a tendency to wander off topic, e.g., wandering into a clutch throw count in a section about accuracy. Why do I get the feeling you've not seen anywhere near the throws of any prospect not named Darnold? Anyway...
The solace I have tried to find in the inevitability that is Sam at #1 is that he has posted numbers despite being very flawed. Where I keep getting lost is in the knowledge that the NFL only magnifies flaws.
First... decent post... the one with some attempted detail behind. But you have a tendency to wander off topic, e.g., wandering into a clutch throw count in a section about accuracy. Why do I get the feeling you've not seen anywhere near the throws of any prospect not named Darnold? Anyway...
The solace I have tried to find in the inevitability that is Sam at #1 is that he has posted numbers despite being very flawed. Where I keep getting lost is in the knowledge that the NFL only magnifies flaws.
I agree with what you said about the nfl. I hqve watched Rosen alot that's why I was mainly comparing darnold vs Rosen.
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Happy Easter!! let us pray..
He has a face only a mother could love.
Zombo said:
At 4:55 Ash, I've seen Sam Darnold & Big Ben pump fake that defender to bite than complete pass..Not with 8 sacks dancing in his head & turning the ball over like a Pez Dispenser
..Watch Greg Cosell change your guys diaper talking Sam Darnold here Ashtabula..
next..
At 4:55 Ash, I've seen Sam Darnold & Big Ben pump fake that defender to bite than complete pass..Not with 8 sacks dancing in his head & turning the ball over like a Pez Dispenser
..Watch Greg Cosell change your guys diaper talking Sam Darnold here Ashtabula..
next..
I have seen the cosell on cowherd before.
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At 4:55 Ash, I've seen Sam Darnold & Big Ben pump fake that defender to bite than complete pass..Not with 8 sacks dancing in his head & turning the ball over like a Pez Dispenser
..Watch Greg Cosell change your guys diaper talking Sam Darnold here Ashtabula..
next..
I have seen the cosell on cowherd before.
I have seen the cosell on cowherd before.
Surely, most have. First.. Welcome to the Browns Board. You seem like you know your So-Cal football. It's good to have your opinion around here draft time..Enjoy.. we got far more issues than just QB here..Browns Fan? or solely fan of Darnold? we still have many Manzel leftovers here..well leftovers that drink with leftovers
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are you aware he's never won less than 7 games as a starter in spite of not playing all 16 weeks?
Are you aware he's never started a game for the Browns?
Has anyone given thought to what happens if Tyrod has a year like he typically does and we win like 6 games? When does our drafted rookie get game experience?
If our fan base tastes anything CLOSE to .500 football, how do you start anybody else in 2019? I mean, do you HAVE to start the rookie just because you drafted him #1?
Tyrod is certainly a safe-style QB, but he didn't exactly have an overwhelming support cast, either. In fact, I'd say that our offensive players are superior to Buffalo's, and that's before the draft. Can Hue and Haley bring Tyrod out of his safety, cautious shell?
Assuming our rookie QB is ready, then he starts once we are eliminated from playoff contention. Possibly earlier if TT is injured, Stanton loses a couple and we are in "still-in-the-hunt-but-clearly-nothing-left-to-lose" mode.
Because .500 means nothing in the grand scheme?
First, does Tyrod have another mode? Second, of Hue and Haley, only one has experience in trying to get his QB(s) to take more risk... and that did not go too well.
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Has anyone given thought to what happens if Tyrod has a year like he typically does and we win like 6 games? Currently we have Tyrod for 1 year, but if our team goes from 0 wins to 6 in one year, and Tyrod plays well, how do you insert your #1 pick into the lineup? When does our drafted rookie get game experience? We already know the "plan" is to start Tyrod, and if history is any indication, Tyrod should have a pretty decent season. He might throw for 18 tds and 7 picks, while running for another 3-4 scores. If we're able to run the ball at all (hahaha, funny), those numbers could be enough to propel us to a good amount of victories. Also, keep in mind that Tyrod is just playing on a 1 year contract, so he's going to aim to impress and give it his all.
If our fan base tastes anything CLOSE to .500 football, how do you start anybody else in 2019? I mean, do you HAVE to start the rookie just because you drafted him #1? Tyrod is certainly a safe-style QB, but he didn't exactly have an overwhelming support cast, either. In fact, I'd say that our offensive players are superior to Buffalo's, and that's before the draft. Can Hue and Haley bring Tyrod out of his safety, cautious shell? Can he actually be MORE than a bridge type QB, and what happens then? I feel like people are quickly writing off Tyrod to be just a guy holding the fort until our rookie is ready, but I'm of the belief that he's more than that, and we could have a little predicament in Cleveland.
Keep in mind, we're 1-31 in 2 years. If a QB comes along and takes us to being competitive, perhaps contending for a wildcard into November, our fans are going to be buying Tyrod jerseys and celebrating the ground he walks on. Don't believe me? Just wait and see if it happens. I realize we can't technically count on Josh Gordon, but he's on our team right now, and so is Jarvis Landry. You add in Duke and Njoku, and even Corey Coleman and Seth Devalve, we have an offense with legitimate weapons a defense actually has to prepare for. Crazy, right? How does a QB like Tyrod perform with a down-field weapon, a premier 3rd down receiver, a shifty RB receiver, and a pass-catching TE? I'm of the mind that he's going to do very well, and THEN what?
Obviously anything can happen. Teams like the Eagles and Seahawks had no intention of playing THEIR rookie QBs, but it didn't turn out that way. We weren't planning on playing Kessler, but we know how THAT played out. But let's pretend that a plan ACTUALLY works for us. Let's just try to see what a season with Tyrod and the gang looks like, and to me, it looks pretty good. I'll never forget how awful these last few seasons were, and if we truly are a decent team, I'm not going to be in a hurry to play a young guy just because he was drafted #1.
Has anyone given thought to what happens if Tyrod has a year like he typically does and we win like 6 games? Currently we have Tyrod for 1 year, but if our team goes from 0 wins to 6 in one year, and Tyrod plays well, how do you insert your #1 pick into the lineup? When does our drafted rookie get game experience? We already know the "plan" is to start Tyrod, and if history is any indication, Tyrod should have a pretty decent season. He might throw for 18 tds and 7 picks, while running for another 3-4 scores. If we're able to run the ball at all (hahaha, funny), those numbers could be enough to propel us to a good amount of victories. Also, keep in mind that Tyrod is just playing on a 1 year contract, so he's going to aim to impress and give it his all.
If our fan base tastes anything CLOSE to .500 football, how do you start anybody else in 2019? I mean, do you HAVE to start the rookie just because you drafted him #1? Tyrod is certainly a safe-style QB, but he didn't exactly have an overwhelming support cast, either. In fact, I'd say that our offensive players are superior to Buffalo's, and that's before the draft. Can Hue and Haley bring Tyrod out of his safety, cautious shell? Can he actually be MORE than a bridge type QB, and what happens then? I feel like people are quickly writing off Tyrod to be just a guy holding the fort until our rookie is ready, but I'm of the belief that he's more than that, and we could have a little predicament in Cleveland.
Keep in mind, we're 1-31 in 2 years. If a QB comes along and takes us to being competitive, perhaps contending for a wildcard into November, our fans are going to be buying Tyrod jerseys and celebrating the ground he walks on. Don't believe me? Just wait and see if it happens. I realize we can't technically count on Josh Gordon, but he's on our team right now, and so is Jarvis Landry. You add in Duke and Njoku, and even Corey Coleman and Seth Devalve, we have an offense with legitimate weapons a defense actually has to prepare for. Crazy, right? How does a QB like Tyrod perform with a down-field weapon, a premier 3rd down receiver, a shifty RB receiver, and a pass-catching TE? I'm of the mind that he's going to do very well, and THEN what?
Obviously anything can happen. Teams like the Eagles and Seahawks had no intention of playing THEIR rookie QBs, but it didn't turn out that way. We weren't planning on playing Kessler, but we know how THAT played out. But let's pretend that a plan ACTUALLY works for us. Let's just try to see what a season with Tyrod and the gang looks like, and to me, it looks pretty good. I'll never forget how awful these last few seasons were, and if we truly are a decent team, I'm not going to be in a hurry to play a young guy just because he was drafted #1.
This is exactly why I'm lobbying to take a game-changer #1 and then the developmental QB #4. He might not see the field for 3 years if everything works out.
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Has anyone given thought to what happens if Tyrod has a year like he typically does and we win like 6 games? Currently we have Tyrod for 1 year, but if our team goes from 0 wins to 6 in one year, and Tyrod plays well, how do you insert your #1 pick into the lineup? When does our drafted rookie get game experience? We already know the "plan" is to start Tyrod, and if history is any indication, Tyrod should have a pretty decent season. He might throw for 18 tds and 7 picks, while running for another 3-4 scores. If we're able to run the ball at all (hahaha, funny), those numbers could be enough to propel us to a good amount of victories. Also, keep in mind that Tyrod is just playing on a 1 year contract, so he's going to aim to impress and give it his all.
If our fan base tastes anything CLOSE to .500 football, how do you start anybody else in 2019? I mean, do you HAVE to start the rookie just because you drafted him #1? Tyrod is certainly a safe-style QB, but he didn't exactly have an overwhelming support cast, either. In fact, I'd say that our offensive players are superior to Buffalo's, and that's before the draft. Can Hue and Haley bring Tyrod out of his safety, cautious shell? Can he actually be MORE than a bridge type QB, and what happens then? I feel like people are quickly writing off Tyrod to be just a guy holding the fort until our rookie is ready, but I'm of the belief that he's more than that, and we could have a little predicament in Cleveland.
Keep in mind, we're 1-31 in 2 years. If a QB comes along and takes us to being competitive, perhaps contending for a wildcard into November, our fans are going to be buying Tyrod jerseys and celebrating the ground he walks on. Don't believe me? Just wait and see if it happens. I realize we can't technically count on Josh Gordon, but he's on our team right now, and so is Jarvis Landry. You add in Duke and Njoku, and even Corey Coleman and Seth Devalve, we have an offense with legitimate weapons a defense actually has to prepare for. Crazy, right? How does a QB like Tyrod perform with a down-field weapon, a premier 3rd down receiver, a shifty RB receiver, and a pass-catching TE? I'm of the mind that he's going to do very well, and THEN what?
Obviously anything can happen. Teams like the Eagles and Seahawks had no intention of playing THEIR rookie QBs, but it didn't turn out that way. We weren't planning on playing Kessler, but we know how THAT played out. But let's pretend that a plan ACTUALLY works for us. Let's just try to see what a season with Tyrod and the gang looks like, and to me, it looks pretty good. I'll never forget how awful these last few seasons were, and if we truly are a decent team, I'm not going to be in a hurry to play a young guy just because he was drafted #1.
This is exactly why I'm lobbying to take a game-changer #1 and then the developmental QB #4. He might not see the field for 3 years if everything works out.
This is exactly why I'm lobbying to take a game-changer #1 and then the developmental QB #4. He might not see the field for 3 years if everything works out.
^ It's an argument that has merit..... especially if the Browns aren't head over freakin' heals in love with one QB.
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Happy Easter!! let us pray..
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Zombo said:
At 4:55 Ash, I've seen Sam Darnold & Big Ben pump fake that defender to bite than complete pass..Not with 8 sacks dancing in his head & turning the ball over like a Pez Dispenser
..Watch Greg Cosell change your guys diaper talking Sam Darnold here Ashtabula..
next..
At 4:55 Ash, I've seen Sam Darnold & Big Ben pump fake that defender to bite than complete pass..Not with 8 sacks dancing in his head & turning the ball over like a Pez Dispenser
..Watch Greg Cosell change your guys diaper talking Sam Darnold here Ashtabula..
next..
Baker grows on me more and more as a player but too.many traits that reminds people of Manzeil ..height- air raid offense..percieved attitude...(although pundits like cosell says otherwise).
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I agree with this guy wholeheartedly. But this guy also played qb and also tlaks about hisn encounter with him at the camp when Sam was a unknown qb.
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