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Jordan ZirmVerified account @clevezirm
I've never understood the "highest ceiling" qualifier that gets attached to Josh Allen vs. these other QBs. like, is his ceiling hall of famer? otherwise, the ceilings of Rosen and Darnold feel just as high, and they're better right this second
8:22 AM - 26 Mar 2018-
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Replying to @clevezirmI also think it’s a huge stretch to say his ceiling is even that high bc of the extreme accuracy issues. Maybe he can tweak his mechanics to the point where it’s no longer a glaring issue, but it would be an unprecedented turnaround for it to become a strength.
2 replies 1 retweet 4 likesexactly. the only way his "ceiling" becomes the highest is if he literally improves leaps and bounds on some of the most important aspects of his game. and that's a risky bet to take
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
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rosen's terrible, Kizer like interception vs Memphis: BEST PURE INTERCEPTION THROWER ? LOL
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rosen's terrible, Kizer like interception vs Memphis: BEST PURE INTERCEPTION THROWER ? LOL
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https://thebiglead.com/2018/03/27/jim-mora-josh-rosen-sam-darnold/
Saw that.... what do you think Mora sees about NYG that makes him declare them the better fit?
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from last year, in May, but Rosen did the same things and has the same red flags now.
http://www.profootballweekly.com/2017/05/22/greg-gabriel-breaking-down-ucla-qb-josh-rosen/aaus9js/
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his footwork was to be admired, though. He ran like a drunken chicken.
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why not? who was it that brought up Allen being "inaccurate" in high school?
you didn't complain about that. And you haven't made progress, I never cared how long ago
the dates were on the articles - you didn't care if they were negative about Allen.
But THAT is fine with you.
Par for the course.
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Josh Rosen has "Bust" written ALL over him. - The Stadium Wall - Two ...
https://www.twobillsdrive.com › Sports Talk › The Stadium WallMar 12, 2018 - 25 posts - 19 authorsDoes this sound like a franchise QB to you? This profile from NFL.com is downright scary. Durability is a concern. Carries slight build and has ...
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Measureables
Josh Rosen is listed at 6-foot-3 and 218 pounds.
Of the 21 quarterbacks taken in the top 60 picks since 2012 Rosen, is tied for the fourth-shortest. While Rosen isn’t as short as say Johnny Manziel, who’s listed at 5-foot-11, he is slightly shorter than the prototypical NFL QB.
Of the 16 highest-ranked quarterbacks of 2016 according to Pro Football Focus, only seven stood 6-foot-3 or shorter. Of the seven, only one quarterback, Aaron Rodgers, was selected in the first round. While it is telling that players 6-foot-3 and shorter can still be incredibly successful in the NFL, it is interesting to note that only one was a first-round pick, and a late one at that.
Teams shy away from players who are too short in the first round of the draft because of fears that their lack of stature will impact their ability to see the field once the ball in snapped.
Similarly teams often shy away from players who weigh less than 220 pounds.
Of the 21 QBs taken in the top 60 picks of the NFL draft since 2012, only six weigh less than Rosen.
NFL teams routinely pass over light quarterbacks because of fear of injury. A quarterback like Robert Griffin III, a dynamic athlete while leading Baylor 218 pounds, missed major stretches of his pro career as a result of consistent injury. In five NFL seasons, the former No. 2 overall selection only appeared in 42 games.
Of the top 16 NFL quarterbacks during the 2016-2017 season, only four weighed less than 218 pounds, and none was selected in the first round of the NFL draft. Simply put, it would appear that pro teams typically are weary of selecting a slight quarterback with a high pick. While thinner quarterbacks typically run fast 40-yard dashes and can be dynamic athletes, they are also far more likely to get injured and thus become unreliable.
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And from the same forum:
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Measureables
Josh Rosen is listed at 6-foot-3 and 218 pounds.
Of the 21 quarterbacks taken in the top 60 picks since 2012 Rosen, is tied for the fourth-shortest. While Rosen isn’t as short as say Johnny Manziel, who’s listed at 5-foot-11, he is slightly shorter than the prototypical NFL QB.
Of the 16 highest-ranked quarterbacks of 2016 according to Pro Football Focus, only seven stood 6-foot-3 or shorter. Of the seven, only one quarterback, Aaron Rodgers, was selected in the first round. While it is telling that players 6-foot-3 and shorter can still be incredibly successful in the NFL, it is interesting to note that only one was a first-round pick, and a late one at that.
Teams shy away from players who are too short in the first round of the draft because of fears that their lack of stature will impact their ability to see the field once the ball in snapped.
Similarly teams often shy away from players who weigh less than 220 pounds.
Of the 21 QBs taken in the top 60 picks of the NFL draft since 2012, only six weigh less than Rosen.
NFL teams routinely pass over light quarterbacks because of fear of injury. A quarterback like Robert Griffin III, a dynamic athlete while leading Baylor 218 pounds, missed major stretches of his pro career as a result of consistent injury. In five NFL seasons, the former No. 2 overall selection only appeared in 42 games.
Of the top 16 NFL quarterbacks during the 2016-2017 season, only four weighed less than 218 pounds, and none was selected in the first round of the NFL draft. Simply put, it would appear that pro teams typically are weary of selecting a slight quarterback with a high pick. While thinner quarterbacks typically run fast 40-yard dashes and can be dynamic athletes, they are also far more likely to get injured and thus become unreliable.
Measureables
Josh Rosen is listed at 6-foot-3 and 218 pounds.
Of the 21 quarterbacks taken in the top 60 picks since 2012 Rosen, is tied for the fourth-shortest. While Rosen isn’t as short as say Johnny Manziel, who’s listed at 5-foot-11, he is slightly shorter than the prototypical NFL QB.
Of the 16 highest-ranked quarterbacks of 2016 according to Pro Football Focus, only seven stood 6-foot-3 or shorter. Of the seven, only one quarterback, Aaron Rodgers, was selected in the first round. While it is telling that players 6-foot-3 and shorter can still be incredibly successful in the NFL, it is interesting to note that only one was a first-round pick, and a late one at that.
Teams shy away from players who are too short in the first round of the draft because of fears that their lack of stature will impact their ability to see the field once the ball in snapped.
Similarly teams often shy away from players who weigh less than 220 pounds.
Of the 21 QBs taken in the top 60 picks of the NFL draft since 2012, only six weigh less than Rosen.
NFL teams routinely pass over light quarterbacks because of fear of injury. A quarterback like Robert Griffin III, a dynamic athlete while leading Baylor 218 pounds, missed major stretches of his pro career as a result of consistent injury. In five NFL seasons, the former No. 2 overall selection only appeared in 42 games.
Of the top 16 NFL quarterbacks during the 2016-2017 season, only four weighed less than 218 pounds, and none was selected in the first round of the NFL draft. Simply put, it would appear that pro teams typically are weary of selecting a slight quarterback with a high pick. While thinner quarterbacks typically run fast 40-yard dashes and can be dynamic athletes, they are also far more likely to get injured and thus become unreliable.
At least use the combine stats, where they were all actually weighed and measured. Rosen was actually bigger than Darnold.
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the other measurements didn't take into account rosen's "swelled head".
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Jim Mora Jr. just won't stop talking about Rosen. He's not a good 'fit' for Cleveland, Darnold is the better, grittier, more blue collar fit for Cleveland. Josh needs to be intellectually challenged by his coach so Pat Shurmur would be better for him. Meanwhile Rosen and his agent are like, "Will somebody shut that phucking guy up?!"
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And from the same forum:
Is dat one a dem "cow pies" cal talked about someone steppin' in in another thread?
The training continues...
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