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  • Mr. T Mr. TM
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    Mr. TM Mr. T wrote on last edited by
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    And all of those who voted for Stalin I mean Obama said he had a brilliant mind and was well educated at some of the finest schools. 😆

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      C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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      Actually, Morris was correct. He knows what he is talking about...

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      http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2009/02/022721.php

      Obama's Popularity Slipping

      Share Post PrintFebruary 3, 2009 Posted by John at 10:00 AM

      In today's Rasmussen survey, President Obama's approval rating is down to 61 percent. There's nothing wrong with that, but there's nothing special about it, either. It's in line with what most Presidents have experienced near the beginning of their terms; slightly lower, actually, than George W. Bush's approval rating in the Gallup poll 60 days into his first term, notwithstanding the acrimony surrounding the 2000 election.

      Obama's decline was inevitable once he actually started making decisions. His approval rating will probably fall further as more voters learn details about the Democrats' pork bill, as foreign policy setbacks continue, and as he continues to govern like a traditional Democrat. Again, there is nothing particularly wrong with this. But there seems to be a myth inside the Beltway that Obama enjoys some sort of super-popularity that makes his policies difficult to challenge. That is simply untrue. Two weeks into his administration, Obama's approval rating is what one would expect from any newly-elected, generic Democrat. Where it goes from here depends on how the public perceives the administration's successes and failures. Based on what we've seen so far, there will be plenty for Republicans to criticize.

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        C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by calfoxwc
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        Follow the green line. Then follow the red line...

        obama_index_june_13_2009.jpg

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          C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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          Dan, here's more.

          Morris's article was right on the money:

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          Obama's Poll Numbers Are Falling to Earth

          • By DOUGLAS E. SCHOEN and SCOTT RASMUSSEN
          It is simply wrong for commentators to continue to focus on President Barack Obama's high levels of popularity, and to conclude that these are indicative of high levels of public confidence in the work of his administration. Indeed, a detailed look at recent survey data shows that the opposite is most likely true. The American people are coming to express increasingly significant doubts about his initiatives, and most likely support a different agenda and different policies from those that the Obama administration has advanced.

          Polling data show that Mr. Obama's approval rating is dropping and is below where George W. Bush was in an analogous period in 2001. Rasmussen Reports data shows that Mr. Obama's net presidential approval rating -- which is calculated by subtracting the number who strongly disapprove from the number who strongly approve -- is just six, his lowest rating to date.

          OB-DH271_oj_sch_D_20090312202459.jpg M.E. CohenOverall, Rasmussen Reports shows a 56%-43% approval, with a third strongly disapproving of the president's performance. This is a substantial degree of polarization so early in the administration. Mr. Obama has lost virtually all of his Republican support and a good part of his Independent support, and the trend is decidedly negative.

          A detailed examination of presidential popularity after 50 days on the job similarly demonstrates a substantial drop in presidential approval relative to other elected presidents in the 20th and 21st centuries. The reason for this decline most likely has to do with doubts about the administration's policies and their impact on peoples' lives.

          There is also a clear sense in the polling that taxes will increase for all Americans because of the stimulus, notwithstanding what the president has said about taxes going down for 95% of Americans. Close to three-quarters expect that government spending will grow under this administration.

          Recent Gallup data echo these concerns. That polling shows that there are deep-seated, underlying economic concerns. Eighty-three percent say they are worried that the steps Mr. Obama is taking to fix the economy may not work and the economy will get worse. Eighty-two percent say they are worried about the amount of money being added to the deficit. Seventy-eight percent are worried about inflation growing, and 69% say they are worried about the increasing role of the government in the U.S. economy.

          When Gallup asked whether we should be spending more or less in the economic stimulus, by close to 3-to-1 margin voters said it is better to have spent less than to have spent more. When asked whether we are adding too much to the deficit or spending too little to improve the economy, by close to a 3-to-2 margin voters said that we are adding too much to the deficit.

          Support for the stimulus package is dropping from narrow majority support to below that. There is no sense that the stimulus package itself will work quickly, and according to a recent Wall Street Journal/NBC poll, close to 60% said it would make only a marginal difference in the next two to four years. Rasmussen data shows that people now actually oppose Mr. Obama's budget, 46% to 41%. Three-quarters take this position because it will lead to too much spending. And by 2-to-1, voters reject House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's call for a second stimulus package.

          While over two-thirds support the plan to help homeowners refinance their mortgage, a 48%-36% plurality said that it will unfairly benefit those who have been irresponsible, echoing Rick Santelli's call to arms on CNBC.

          And although a narrow majority remains confident in Mr. Obama's goals and overall direction, 45% say they do not have confidence, a number that has been growing since the inauguration less than two months ago. With three-quarters saying that they expect the economy to get worse, it is hard to see these numbers improving substantially.

          There is no real appetite for increasing taxes to pay for an expanded health-insurance program. Less than half would support such an idea, which is 17% less than the percentage that supported government health insurance when Bill Clinton first considered it in March of 1993.

          While voters blame Republicans for the lack of bipartisanship in Washington, the fact is that they do not believe Mr. Obama has made any progress in improving the impulse towards cooperation between the two parties. Further, nearly half of voters say that politics in Washington will be more partisan over the next year.

          Fifty-six percent of Americans oppose giving bankers any additional government money or any guarantees backed by the government. Two-thirds say Wall Street will benefit more than the average taxpayer from the new bank bailout plan. This represents a jump in opposition to the first plan passed last October. At that time, 45% opposed the bailout and 30% supported it. Now a solid majority opposes the bank bailout, and 20% think it was a good idea. A majority believes that Mr. Obama will not be able to cut the deficit in half by the end of his term.

          Only less than a quarter of Americans believe that the federal government truly reflects the will of the people. Almost half disagree with the idea that no one can earn a living or live "an American life" without protection and empowerment by the government, while only one-third agree.

          Despite the economic stimulus that Congress just passed and the budget and financial and mortgage bailouts that Congress is now debating, just 19% of voters believe that Congress has passed any significant legislation to improve their lives. While Congress's approval has increased, it still stands at only 18%. Over two-thirds of voters believe members of Congress are more interested in helping their own careers than in helping the American people. When it comes to the nation's economic issues, two-thirds of voters have more confidence in their own judgment than they do in the average member of Congress.

          Finally, what probably accounts for a good measure of the confidence and support the Obama administration has enjoyed is the fact that they are not Republicans. Virtually all Americans, more than eight in 10, blame Republicans for the current economic woes, and the only two leaders with lower approval ratings than Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi are Republican leaders Mitch McConnell and John Boehner.

          All of this is not just a subject for pollsters and analysts to debate. It shows fundamentally that public confidence in government remains low and is slipping. We face the possibility of substantial gridlock along with an absolute absence of public confidence that could come to mirror the lack of confidence in the American economy that the Dow and the S&P are currently showing.

          Mr. Schoen, formerly a pollster for President Bill Clinton, is the author of "Declaring Independence: The Beginning of the End of the Two Party System" (Random House, 2008). Mr. Rasmussen is president of Rasmussen Reports, an independent national polling company.

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            C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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            Odd, that doesn't sound like Hustler magazine to me.

            Sounds like the truth.

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            This part was important:

            "Polling data show that Mr. Obama's approval rating is dropping and is below where George W. Bush was in an analogous period in 2001."

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              C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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              Dan, it isn't just Rasmussen either:

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              http://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/64060.html

              Pew poll: Obama's public support is eroding

              By Steven Thomma | McClatchy Newspapers

              WASHINGTON — A new poll by the independent Pew Research Center for the People & the Press has found that President Barack Obama's popular support is eroding, with his approval rating dropping below 60 percent.

              "President Barack Obama's approval rating has slipped, as a growing number of Americans see him listening more to his party's liberals than to its moderates, and many voice opposition to some of his key economic proposals," the Pew Center concluded.

              Its new survey finds Obama's approval rating falling to 59 percent from 64 percent in February. It also finds the ranks of Americans who disapprove of the president's job performance rising, to 26 percent from 17 percent.

              Among those who registered a jump in disapproval were Republicans, up 15 percentage points, and independents, up 13 points, Pew found.

              The survey was taken among 1,308 adults last Monday through Thursday and has an error margin of plus or minus 3 percentage points.

              One reason for the erosion of support could be that a plurality sees Obama aligned more with the liberal wing of his party as he pushes an agenda that calls for broad increases in government spending and taxes.

              Pew found that Americans think by 44 percent to 30 percent that the president listens more to liberals than to moderates in his party. The sentiment was a mirror image of what it was in January, when 44 percent thought he listened more to moderates and 34 percent thought he listened more to liberals.

              Since then, Obama has signed a $787 billion economic stimulus package and proposed a $600 billion-plus down payment for a health-care overhaul and raising taxes on wealthier Americans to pay for it. He also proposed a $3.55 trillion fiscal 2010 budget and projected that the federal budget deficit for the current fiscal year would hit a record $1.75 trillion, or 12.3 percent of the gross domestic product.

              The Pew poll is the latest finding that the president has lost some support as he's started to flesh out his governing agenda.

              A McClatchy-Ipsos poll last week found his approval rating dropping from 69 percent to 65 percent. An average of six public polls in the last few weeks — Pew, Gallup, Rasmussen, McClatchy-Ipsos, Newsweek and Fox — put Obama's approval rating at 60.3 percent.

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                C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                Its just a douche article with no valid information whatsoever in it except Obama might fall on his ass,which would make Cal happy and I dont even have an issue with that ,he's a Republican fine but if your going to post an article atleast find something with a shred of legitimate news to it other than this constant barage of BS. Dan

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                Wasn't BS, Dan. And it doesn't make me happy. It makes me worried that more and more Americans

                are also changing their minds about Obama, for good reason.

                Sounds like Morris's article was pretty valid after all...

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                • Mr. T Mr. TM
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                  Pew found that Americans think by 44 percent to 30 percent that the president listens more to liberals than to moderates in his party. The sentiment was a mirror image of what it was in January, when 44 percent thought he listened more to moderates and 34 percent thought he listened more to liberals.

                  He has proven that allready with the way he has allowed all of the pork spending on his budget and stimulus bills.

                  He also wants to have the government to take control of all industries so why wouldn't he side with the far Left in his party, they all think alike.

                  And while Obama is being worshipped abroad, Obama and the Far Left are memorializing Joseph Stalin!

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                    C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                    Sorry, Dan.

                    But the article is interesting to me, in light of the high popularity ratings Obama had earlier,

                    and the intense interest in noting his ratings.

                    Not so much now.

                    Hey, they could go back up if Obama genuinely solves some problems.

                    I just do not like several of the solutions, and I worry about some of his actions

                    and attitudes.

                    I'm not saying he's satan, I'm saying I really disagree with his outlook, and with his serious lack of experience,

                    it concerns me, and apparently more and more Americans as time goes on, about his "change".

                    I might just be me, but this article certainly seems to be far more relevant than continued threads about Palin and

                    her family...

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                      ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by ballpeen
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                      I have to agree with this. Palin is old news and does not hold any position of power that will effect the direction of this country.

                      She is a Governor. I think you underestimate the power that office holds.

                      If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                        It's amazing how conservatives are suddenly concerned about our national debt after 8 years.

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                          C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                          Your assumption is self-serving, for sure, but hardly accurate.

                          The debt under Bush was manageable, and because of the war on terror.

                          Obama's is NOT manageable, and is because of utopian socialist actions

                          and grand, gigantic ideas that cost so much, he can't pay for them.

                          Obama has quadrupled the national debt in only five months.

                          This cannot be sustained. Gigantic difference.

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                            I'm confused as to why we even keep a running tab or statistics for our "national debt.". Does anyone really think we're ever going to pay any of this back?

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                              Your assumption is self-serving, for sure, but hardly accurate.

                              The debt under Bush was manageable, and because of the war on terror.

                              Obama's is NOT manageable, and is because of utopian socialist actions

                              and grand, gigantic ideas that cost so much, he can't pay for them.

                              Obama has quadrupled the national debt in only five months.

                              This cannot be sustained. Gigantic difference.

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                              Kosar_For_PresidentK Kosar_For_President wrote on last edited by
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                              @calfoxwc said:

                              Your assumption is self-serving, for sure, but hardly accurate.

                              The debt under Bush was manageable, and because of the war on terror.

                              Obama's is NOT manageable, and is because of utopian socialist actions

                              and grand, gigantic ideas that cost so much, he can't pay for them.

                              Obama has quadrupled the national debt in only five months.

                              This cannot be sustained. Gigantic difference.

                              To be fair Cal, the debt is unmanageable because of the policies put forth by Clinton and Bush. I do agree that Obama needed to see this and NOT spend this money, which was his mistake. I agree on that. Which is more proof all these fcks are running our country into the ground. ALL OF THEM.

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                                I'm confused as to why we even keep a running tab or statistics for our "national debt.". Does anyone really think we're ever going to pay any of this back?

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                                mz. said:

                                I'm confused as to why we even keep a running tab or statistics for our "national debt.". Does anyone really think we're ever going to pay any of this back?

                                Very true mz the pussy. I don't think the US can get that AMEX gold card we need. Shit and it had a $5,000 credit limit, damn.

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                                  C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                                  To be fair Cal, the debt is unmanageable because of the policies put forth by Clinton and Bush. I do agree that Obama needed to see this and NOT spend this money, which was his mistake. I agree on that. Which is more proof all these fcks are running our country into the ground. ALL OF THEM.

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                                  Well, the debt is unmanageable because of the SIZE.

                                  The war on terror debt by Bush and other spending by Clinton was not good.

                                  But QUADRUPLING the debt in only 5 months as Obama has?

                                  And with Obama's health care plan, not even the Senate, with a Dem majority, has the votes

                                  to even come close to passing it, it's that bad, and that costly.

                                  Bush was a flop his second four years in a huge way, but seriously, our debt is so gigantic now,

                                  over 10 TRILLION bucks over how many years? And it's going ? to get a hell of a lot bigger?

                                  That's if Obama keeps his lofty promises and the Senate doesn't stop him...

                                  4 x a large amount = disaster. That disaster part in on Obama.

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                                    please furnish proof that the nationa debt has quadrupled.

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                                      http://blog.heritage.org/2009/03/24/bush-d...it-in-pictures/

                                      Read it, admit it. worry about it...

                                      or, just attack/dismiss the source. Whatever.

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                                        P Pumpkin Eater wrote on last edited by Pumpkin Eater
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                                        in september 2008 the dollar sign was removed from the national debt clock so it could accomadate debt over 10 trillion. In october ot was 10.2 trillion. As of today the national debt is 11.4 trillion.

                                        Where did you go to school?

                                        http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/

                                        http://www.usnews.com/blogs/new-money/2008...debt-clock.html

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                                          C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                                          Go back and -read- the article. What Obama is doing now, projected several years,

                                          gives us a quadrupled debt, it is impossible to sustain.

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