Reasons to believe the Browns have turned the corner into turning into a winning TEAM
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VesnaKociper said:
Look man, when you have no QB WRs, RB, or pass rushers of note, it isn't being NEGATIVE to predict 2- 14 +/- one win. It is perfectly reasonable..........
Maybe one of these days you'll decide to bet on your horse before the race...
The WR Cleveland drafted in the 1st round scored 20 TDs in 2015 and 13 TDs in 2014.
Bosa had 5 sacks in 2015 while Nassib led the country with 15.5 sacks and Ogbah had 13 sacks.
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Ghoolish, you had your chance of doing a mock draft...
Next time, tell us AHEAD of the draft what you think, instead of
all this negative bs AFTER the draft.
BTW, they draft wr's. But you have to go figure out who they drafted to get it.
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Ghoolish, you had your chance of doing a mock draft...
Next time, tell us AHEAD of the draft what you think, instead of
all this negative bs AFTER the draft.
BTW, they draft wr's. But you have to go figure out who they drafted to get it.
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I've said it before, and I'll say it again, but I don't think our team is going to START OUT as bad as predicted. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying we're going to begin on any kind of winning streak, but I could see us winning a few games to start out the first 5 games. What's going to kill us are the inevitable injuries that plague every NFL team, and we simply won't have the depth to overcome them. Don't be surprised if we win a few more games early than many analysts predict. Our first six games are against the Eagles, Ravens, Dolphins, Redskins, Patriots, and Titans. Not exactly easy, but certainly not "murderers row". I'd bet money we win at least two, maybe 3 of them.
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I think we see a smartly adapted defense and offense per the talents of the players.
That is huge right there.
The lack of wrs has been so obvious to oppoents and fans alike - but they
wouldn't fix it.
There is going to be a new era of Browns football - smart, excellently coached, well designed on both sides
of the los, and a fill-in of new players hand(s) picked to love the game, smart, terrific work ethic, and very talented.
No more "just one player" to turn things around. That's why the trade downs. I can see at least two more wins
just because. The ace in the hole is Hue. He knows the players in the division opponents, the coaches...
he's like the perfect HC to help put the Browns in the right direction.
Nobody is saying playoffs - but the difference is going to be dramatic in HOW they play every down.
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I've said it before, and I'll say it again, but I don't think our team is going to START OUT as bad as predicted. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying we're going to begin on any kind of winning streak, but I could see us winning a few games to start out the first 5 games. What's going to kill us are the inevitable injuries that plague every NFL team, and we simply won't have the depth to overcome them. Don't be surprised if we win a few more games early than many analysts predict. Our first six games are against the Eagles, Ravens, Dolphins, Redskins, Patriots, and Titans. Not exactly easy, but certainly not "murderers row". I'd bet money we win at least two, maybe 3 of them.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again, but I don't think our team is going to START OUT as bad as predicted. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying we're going to begin on any kind of winning streak, but I could see us winning a few games to start out the first 5 games. What's going to kill us are the inevitable injuries that plague every NFL team, and we simply won't have the depth to overcome them. Don't be surprised if we win a few more games early than many analysts predict. Our first six games are against the Eagles, Ravens, Dolphins, Redskins, Patriots, and Titans. Not exactly easy, but certainly not "murderers row". I'd bet money we win at least two, maybe 3 of them.
It was only 2 years ago when we got off to a 7-4 start playing around a big volume of injuries via a next man up "play like a Brown" mentality. We lost a lot of very close games in that 2104 season with either 2nd half leads or knotted scores. I know it wasn't the toughest schedule we've ever had; but we still had 3 playoff teams in our own division we had to play twice apiece. We beat 2 of them. Indy made the AFC Championship Game and we had a 2nd half lead on them. Carolina made the playoffs and we had a lead on them. If memory serves me right the only 2 teams that beat us easily were Cincy and Houston.
In so many of those games we had the effort but lacked the play makers to keep the leads and close the deal. It looks like our FO drafted some exciting play makers at WR. On top of that, Al Saunders is one of the best WR Coaches in this league. Back in 1999, he coached the greatest Show on Turf in St Louis and guided rookie WR Torry Holt and company to a Superbowl Championship. And who was the gotta have QB there? A former grocery store employee with zero experience starting in the NFL - Kurt Warner. St Louis paid big $ to sign FA QB Trent Green for that season and he blew out his knee in the preseason. The only 5 games in 1998 so what were their fans supposed to be predicting after Green went on IR before week 1?
I'm excited about what's been added and the season ahead. I think this team can be every bit as pleasantly surprising as our 2014 team appeared to be.
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Reason:
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2016/06/danny_shelton_cleveland_browns_1.html
Here...... Example 1. Every year its the same bullschidt.................. THIS IS THE SEASON...............WE FINALLY TURNED A CORNER.....................THIS IS WHAT WE AVE BEEN LACKING............ IN SEWAGE, HOLMGERN DORKEY WE TRUST
The Cleveland Browns have the hardest hit players in the NFL -
Reason:
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2016/06/danny_shelton_cleveland_browns_1.html
Here...... Example 1. Every year its the same bullschidt.................. THIS IS THE SEASON...............WE FINALLY TURNED A CORNER.....................THIS IS WHAT WE AVE BEEN LACKING............ IN SEWAGE, HOLMGERN DORKEY WE TRUST
Here...... Example 1. Every year its the same bullschidt.................. THIS IS THE SEASON...............WE FINALLY TURNED A CORNER.....................THIS IS WHAT WE AVE BEEN LACKING............ IN SEWAGE, HOLMGERN DORKEY WE TRUST
And you believe it's Groundhog Day again- we're already doomed to another 2 seasons of bad luck. Go back under your bridge, TROLL.
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Here...... Example 1. Every year its the same bullschidt.................. THIS IS THE SEASON...............WE FINALLY TURNED A CORNER.....................THIS IS WHAT WE AVE BEEN LACKING............ IN SEWAGE, HOLMGERN DORKEY WE TRUST
And you believe it's Groundhog Day again- we're already doomed to another 2 seasons of bad luck. Go back under your bridge, TROLL.
And you believe it's Groundhog Day again- we're already doomed to another 2 seasons of bad luck. Go back under your bridge, TROLL.
Larry, you haven't had an original thought since you flopped out of your Mom's butt and spattered your peach on the tile floor.
GROUNDHOG DAY....................... Dude, I have been right every fukcing year. You haven't been right ONCE................. NOT ONE FUKCING TIME.
Every year you blabber out the same bullschidt................... " we are improved at this position............ we finall have the right management,,,,,, blah blah blah...............
All this bullshidt about Dorsey is not letting Hue anywhere near the selection of players? IN YOUR PEA FUKCING BRAIN dude. You don't have a goddamned clue as to what Dorsey says, doesn't say, can or can't do.
JACSKON................. NOT DORKEY is calling the shots.
HUE wanted RG3............he got 'im. Hue wanted Kizer... he got 'im, he likes black Tarkentons? He has one as his starter. HUE's doing, NOT Dorkey. Haslam is a liberal SOutherner, he won't fire a black head coach. See CInci for your example.
And Larry.............. however are the Browns going to be improved with no Joe Thomas? I thought you said he was invaluable? I thought you said he runs the offense. Why isn't Dorkey concerned?
Seriously dude, the difference between you and me, is I have sound reasons for predicting the future of the Browns. You are such a blind homo, and a homer too, the team could perish in a tragedy and you would still post that they are improved.
TELL ME LARRY................... WHICH WINS do we already have in the bag? You posted that we already have wins in the bag. Which games are those Larry. I offered to bet you on them, but you just went into a shell.
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And you believe it's Groundhog Day again- we're already doomed to another 2 seasons of bad luck. Go back under your bridge, TROLL.
Larry, you haven't had an original thought since you flopped out of your Mom's butt and spattered your peach on the tile floor.
GROUNDHOG DAY....................... Dude, I have been right every fukcing year. You haven't been right ONCE................. NOT ONE FUKCING TIME.
Every year you blabber out the same bullschidt................... " we are improved at this position............ we finall have the right management,,,,,, blah blah blah...............
All this bullshidt about Dorsey is not letting Hue anywhere near the selection of players? IN YOUR PEA FUKCING BRAIN dude. You don't have a goddamned clue as to what Dorsey says, doesn't say, can or can't do.
JACSKON................. NOT DORKEY is calling the shots.
HUE wanted RG3............he got 'im. Hue wanted Kizer... he got 'im, he likes black Tarkentons? He has one as his starter. HUE's doing, NOT Dorkey. Haslam is a liberal SOutherner, he won't fire a black head coach. See CInci for your example.
And Larry.............. however are the Browns going to be improved with no Joe Thomas? I thought you said he was invaluable? I thought you said he runs the offense. Why isn't Dorkey concerned?
Seriously dude, the difference between you and me, is I have sound reasons for predicting the future of the Browns. You are such a blind homo, and a homer too, the team could perish in a tragedy and you would still post that they are improved.
TELL ME LARRY................... WHICH WINS do we already have in the bag? You posted that we already have wins in the bag. Which games are those Larry. I offered to bet you on them, but you just went into a shell.
All this bullshidt about Dorsey is not letting Hue anywhere near the selection of players? IN YOUR PEA FUKCING BRAIN dude. You don't have a goddamned clue as to what Dorsey says, doesn't say, can or can't do. Neither do you- Troll, you're guessing.
TELL ME LARRY................... WHICH WINS do we already have in the bag? You posted that we already have wins in the bag. Which games are those Larry. I offered to bet you on them, but you just went into a shell.
I offered to bet you we we weren't taking Lamar Jackson- and you went into a shell, so STFU.
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All this bullshidt about Dorsey is not letting Hue anywhere near the selection of players? IN YOUR PEA FUKCING BRAIN dude. You don't have a goddamned clue as to what Dorsey says, doesn't say, can or can't do. Neither do you- Troll, you're guessing.
TELL ME LARRY................... WHICH WINS do we already have in the bag? You posted that we already have wins in the bag. Which games are those Larry. I offered to bet you on them, but you just went into a shell.
I offered to bet you we we weren't taking Lamar Jackson- and you went into a shell, so STFU.
I offered to bet you we we weren't taking Lamar Jackson- and you went into a shell, so STFU.
Dude, I NEVER guaranteed the Browns were taking BT4. I said they were fukcking stupid enough to take him, and I showed a scenario where by it could happen. DO I think it is probably? Yep, probably IS going to happen. Hue calls the shots. HOWEVER............. YOU guaranteed something. You said, "we already have wins in the bag". WHich wins are in the bag Larry?
The Cleveland Browns have the hardest hit players in the NFL -
I offered to bet you we we weren't taking Lamar Jackson- and you went into a shell, so STFU.
Dude, I NEVER guaranteed the Browns were taking BT4. I said they were fukcking stupid enough to take him, and I showed a scenario where by it could happen. DO I think it is probably? Yep, probably IS going to happen. Hue calls the shots. HOWEVER............. YOU guaranteed something. You said, "we already have wins in the bag". WHich wins are in the bag Larry?
Dude, I NEVER guaranteed the Browns were taking BT4. I said they were fukcking stupid enough to take him, and I showed a scenario where by it could happen. DO I think it is probably? Yep, probably IS going to happen. Hue calls the shots. HOWEVER............. YOU guaranteed something. You said, "we already have wins in the bag". WHich wins are in the bag Larry?
Sorry but that's a lie. I asked you if you were saying the Browns would draft Lamar Jackson at #1 in the thread linked below and your direct answer was YES.
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I offered to bet you we we weren't taking Lamar Jackson- and you went into a shell, so STFU.
Dude, I NEVER guaranteed the Browns were taking BT4. I said they were fukcking stupid enough to take him, and I showed a scenario where by it could happen. DO I think it is probably? Yep, probably IS going to happen. Hue calls the shots. HOWEVER............. YOU guaranteed something. You said, "we already have wins in the bag". WHich wins are in the bag Larry?
Dude, I NEVER guaranteed the Browns were taking BT4. I said they were fukcking stupid enough to take him, and I showed a scenario where by it could happen. DO I think it is probably? Yep, probably IS going to happen. Hue calls the shots. HOWEVER............. YOU guaranteed something. You said, "we already have wins in the bag". WHich wins are in the bag Larry?
You absolutely did guarantee that the Browns are taking Lamar Jackson #1 overall.
I know, because I offered you a $1000 bet that they won't.
And now you are backtracking.
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I offered to bet you we we weren't taking Lamar Jackson- and you went into a shell, so STFU.
Dude, I NEVER guaranteed the Browns were taking BT4. I said they were fukcking stupid enough to take him, and I showed a scenario where by it could happen. DO I think it is probably? Yep, probably IS going to happen. Hue calls the shots. HOWEVER............. YOU guaranteed something. You said, "we already have wins in the bag". WHich wins are in the bag Larry?
Dude, I NEVER guaranteed the Browns were taking BT4. I said they were fukcking stupid enough to take him, and I showed a scenario where by it could happen. DO I think it is probably? Yep, probably IS going to happen. Hue calls the shots. HOWEVER............. YOU guaranteed something. You said, "we already have wins in the bag". WHich wins are in the bag Larry?
I won't tolerate flat out lying- the other guys have backed it up. You sure as hell did guarantee they were taking Lamar Jackson- as well as about 4 other choices to cover your sorry azz. We got your shtick down to a T. Throw around six wads of mud on the wall, and after the fact- point out the one that sticks. I won't waste my time looking for those Jackson posts. Wouldn't put it past you to go back and delete them. Your credibility on this board is approaching zero.
I'm really impressed you're in constant contact with Haslam, Dorsey, and Jackson- with all that inside info you constantly spout. Care to PM me their cellphone #s?
So let me refresh your memory about Hue's not so magical anymore powers- short attention span. You obviously forgot about the Browns game down in Cinci last year where Hue and Haslam did everything but kiss McCarron's azz on the 50 yard line, and to top it off tried to trade a second and third round pick for him at the trade deadline. The only reason he's not on the Browns now is Sashi committed career suicide and deliberately screwed up the trade. So why do we have Taylor now as the QB, what changed Hue's mind all of a sudden? DORSEY, that's who numnuts.
Damn right I guaranteed wins, and improvement. For your information 2 > 0, never said who we'd beat. Nice way to make it an impossible bet you can't lose on. However- there's those $1,100 bets floating around on Lamar you're apparently afraid to take.
All you got left is profanity and bluster kiddo, talk that way in Church? Didn't think so. Do us all a favor and see how fast you can get kicked off those Raiders forums where you won't be able to hide behind Stan's skirts.
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Dude, I NEVER guaranteed the Browns were taking BT4. I said they were fukcking stupid enough to take him, and I showed a scenario where by it could happen. DO I think it is probably? Yep, probably IS going to happen. Hue calls the shots. HOWEVER............. YOU guaranteed something. You said, "we already have wins in the bag". WHich wins are in the bag Larry?
I won't tolerate flat out lying- the other guys have backed it up. You sure as hell did guarantee they were taking Lamar Jackson- as well as about 4 other choices to cover your sorry azz. We got your shtick down to a T. Throw around six wads of mud on the wall, and after the fact- point out the one that sticks. I won't waste my time looking for those Jackson posts. Wouldn't put it past you to go back and delete them. Your credibility on this board is approaching zero.
I'm really impressed you're in constant contact with Haslam, Dorsey, and Jackson- with all that inside info you constantly spout. Care to PM me their cellphone #s?
So let me refresh your memory about Hue's not so magical anymore powers- short attention span. You obviously forgot about the Browns game down in Cinci last year where Hue and Haslam did everything but kiss McCarron's azz on the 50 yard line, and to top it off tried to trade a second and third round pick for him at the trade deadline. The only reason he's not on the Browns now is Sashi committed career suicide and deliberately screwed up the trade. So why do we have Taylor now as the QB, what changed Hue's mind all of a sudden? DORSEY, that's who numnuts.
Damn right I guaranteed wins, and improvement. For your information 2 > 0, never said who we'd beat. Nice way to make it an impossible bet you can't lose on. However- there's those $1,100 bets floating around on Lamar you're apparently afraid to take.
All you got left is profanity and bluster kiddo, talk that way in Church? Didn't think so. Do us all a favor and see how fast you can get kicked off those Raiders forums where you won't be able to hide behind Stan's skirts.
Your credibility on this board is approaching zero.
Approaching??? Really? It's approaching zero?? He sailed past zero so long ago he's in the negative 6 or 7 figures of credibility at this point.
Just a common troll...that's all he is. All about the attention. The Browns board version of Howard Stern....just less funny and more annoying.
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Your credibility on this board is approaching zero.
Approaching??? Really? It's approaching zero?? He sailed past zero so long ago he's in the negative 6 or 7 figures of credibility at this point.
Just a common troll...that's all he is. All about the attention. The Browns board version of Howard Stern....just less funny and more annoying.
Approaching??? Really? It's approaching zero?? He sailed past zero so long ago he's in the negative 6 or 7 figures of credibility at this point.
Just a common troll...that's all he is. All about the attention. The Browns board version of Howard Stern....just less funny and more annoying.
Just to be the devil's advocate here the guys have a tendency to become infuriated with just about anybody who doesn't preach Sunshine and Lollipops. Beginning of the season pundit X Y or Z predicts one win and we're all over him. Then at the end of the season... Whoops. It really is going to take some wins and a few Personnel decisions that don't flat-out suck Canal water.
Until then, as painful as it might be, well you know the drill.
WSS
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haters gonna hate. too bad. The Browns are finally on the right track,
and still any positive thread will get the hate treatment.
refuses to admit all the positives, that are in place for the first time...
no wonder they are emotionally knee jerking.
I don't know all that much detail about football, but I see
a near future upward swing starting this first season.
enough with the hate venting crap - it's worthless.
I don't know all that much detail about football
We all are well aware of this... Two years later you seemed to have forgotten though.
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