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  • Hogan will be a starter, he's as good as Joe Flacco- only younger. 

    @poeticg said:

    Hogan will be a starter, he's as good as Joe Flacco- only younger. 

    I'll bet you the same $100 I've already offered to bet you on Barkley that Hogan is not an opening day starter anywhere in the NFL in 2018.    As good as a guy who's wearing a super bowl ring?  You really are either just a troll or stupid.  I'm not sure which one it is.  

    Hell...if you don't want to bet money...I'll bet you that Hogan isn't a starter on opening day, if he is, I'll delete my account and never come back here.  If he isn't, then you have to do the same thing.   

    You in?

  • Hogan is a young QB and he's ready to play now. He's sat for 2 years and he's continued to develop to the point where now he needs gametime experience. It's Hogan time... somewhere. 

    It's typical for the Browns to develop talent and then just let it leave only to keep the trash only to rinse and repeat the cycle over and over and over and over and over and .....

    @poeticg said:

    Hogan is a young QB and he's ready to play now. He's sat for 2 years and he's continued to develop to the point where now he needs gametime experience. It's Hogan time... somewhere. 

    It's typical for the Browns to develop talent and then just let it leave only to keep the trash only to rinse and repeat the cycle over and over and over and over and over and .....

    I can't believe that they let a future HOFer like Trent Richardson go either...

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    @hoorta said:

    I can already give you Po's take. Kevin is certain he's a great starting quarterback in the NFL, but those nasty Browns aren't seeing his immense potential, and giving him a fair chance to show it. 😁🙄

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  • Hogan will be a starter, he's as good as Joe Flacco- only younger. 

    @poeticg said:

    Hogan will be a starter, he's as good as Joe Flacco- only younger. 

    😆😆😆 It's a good thing I wasn't currently drinking anything when I read that. I would have spewed it all over the keyboard and monitor. Comparing Hogan's arm strength to Flacco's is an absolute joke. 

    No, I seriously doubt Hogan will be a starter anywhere, unless the two guys ahead of him get hurt. Po, please get out of the fantasy world you're living in. If Kevin is as great as you think he is- he saw the writing on the wall, and knew he couldn't beat out career backup Drew Stanton, and a pretty average starting quarterback in Tyrod Taylor.  Plus whoever we bring in as the real QBOTF was going to demote him to a camp arm.  

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000925072/article/browns-kevin-hogan-granted-permission-to-seek-trade

  • Dorsey sure knows how to get a players attention..1)"talent here sucks".. 2) "I want to be traded".Dorsey, "Am pretty busy at this time, but when you & your agent find your trade partner, feel free to get back with me".. Can we buy a John Dorsey Jersey after this draft?😆  

  • That's not the case AT ALL.

    Clearly, Hogan demonstrated all season that he was better than both Kizer and Kessler and they sank him on the depth chart anyway. Cleveland is clueless.

    Why would you put up with that? I wouldn't- and I wouldn't expect you to either. He'll go somewhere else to a team that can evaluate and develop talent.

    And when he's starting and winning games and we've another bust at QB- I'll have the last laugh. 

  • It was obvious he had no future here.  They traded for TieRod.  They signed Stanton.  They're going to draft the future QB.  Where was that going to leave him?  He absolutely should request a trade......or to be released.

  • Kevin Hogan

    Saquon Barkley

    Josh Gordon

    David Njoku

    Jarvis Landry

    Corey Coleman

    I could coach that team to 8+ wins. The only guy on this list that Hogan got to play with was Njoku. With another offseason of development and the pieces around him... You are stupid if you don't think Hogan could win with a supporting cast like that.

  • It was obvious he had no future here.  They traded for TieRod.  They signed Stanton.  They're going to draft the future QB.  Where was that going to leave him?  He absolutely should request a trade......or to be released.

    @orion said:

    It was obvious he had no future here.  They traded for TieRod.  They signed Stanton.  They're going to draft the future QB.  Where was that going to leave him?  He absolutely should request a trade......or to be released.

    Who the Shmuck is Stanton... an old nobody. Great sign. 

  • @orion said:

    It was obvious he had no future here.  They traded for TieRod.  They signed Stanton.  They're going to draft the future QB.  Where was that going to leave him?  He absolutely should request a trade......or to be released.

    Who the Shmuck is Stanton... an old nobody. Great sign. 

    @poeticg said:

    Who the Shmuck is Stanton... an old nobody. Great sign. 

    ...can't argue that.  But he was brought here to be backup to TieRod.  They don't want #1 pick to have to play at all this year.

    Was it Dorsey who drafted Hogan?

  • It was obvious he had no future here.  They traded for TieRod.  They signed Stanton.  They're going to draft the future QB.  Where was that going to leave him?  He absolutely should request a trade......or to be released.

    @orion said:

    It was obvious he had no future here.  They traded for TieRod.  They signed Stanton.  They're going to draft the future QB.  Where was that going to leave him?  He absolutely should request a trade......or to be released.

    I get the Tyrod Taylor signing. He's won more games but that's because he's actually been allowed to play. Hogan said last season that he saw things during the Texan's game that he hadn't seen before. He just has to get some real game experience and have somebody to throw to that would actually start for any other team in the league outside of David Njoku as a rookie. 

    But, it's cool. If Cleveland is blind enough to overlook Hogan's potential, given the QB hellhole we've been in for the last 20 years... Good for him- let him leave, they deserve every last punchline they'll inevitably receive. 

  • @orion said:

    It was obvious he had no future here.  They traded for TieRod.  They signed Stanton.  They're going to draft the future QB.  Where was that going to leave him?  He absolutely should request a trade......or to be released.

    I get the Tyrod Taylor signing. He's won more games but that's because he's actually been allowed to play. Hogan said last season that he saw things during the Texan's game that he hadn't seen before. He just has to get some real game experience and have somebody to throw to that would actually start for any other team in the league outside of David Njoku as a rookie. 

    But, it's cool. If Cleveland is blind enough to overlook Hogan's potential, given the QB hellhole we've been in for the last 20 years... Good for him- let him leave, they deserve every last punchline they'll inevitably receive. 

    @poeticg said:

    But, it's cool. If Cleveland is blind enough to overlook Hogan's potential, given the QB hellhole we've been in for the last 20 years... Good for him- let him leave, they deserve every last punchline they'll inevitably receive. 

    Enjoy being a fan of his new team.    Don't let the door hit you in the ass here on your way out.   If you're lucky, he'll end up in the same place as your other boyfriend Barfley ends up.

    Guess you aren't that confident in his ability to be a starter since you ignored my bet offer.   Typical troll.  All talk....no balls.

  • Oh no- You are stuck with me for the long haul, sorry about your luck. 

    BTW- Who's your pick at #1? 

  • Whoopie Goldturd is also demanding that men get erections when looking at her.

    WTF? Hogan? Only in Cleveland, only in Cleveland.

  • Oh no- You are stuck with me for the long haul, sorry about your luck. 

    BTW- Who's your pick at #1? 

    @poeticg said:

    Oh no- You are stuck with me for the long haul, sorry about your luck. 

    BTW- Who's your pick at #1? 

    Sorry about my luck?   You're the one who's now rooting against the Browns because your boyfriend will get traded or released, which we all told you would happen as soon as Taylor and Stanton were brought in.   You're also the one who looks like a fool for making asinine statements like "Hogan is better than Flacco" and "Hogan will be a starter this season" and "I have inside info that Barfley is the #1 pick" but doesn't have the balls to back it up. 

    My pick at #1 would be Mayfield but I think it's going to be Darnold.  I'd be happy if it's Rosen or either of the other two I just mentioned.  I'll be disappointed if they take Allen but I'll hope I'm wrong about him.

  • That's not the case AT ALL.

    Clearly, Hogan demonstrated all season that he was better than both Kizer and Kessler and they sank him on the depth chart anyway. Cleveland is clueless.

    Why would you put up with that? I wouldn't- and I wouldn't expect you to either. He'll go somewhere else to a team that can evaluate and develop talent.

    And when he's starting and winning games and we've another bust at QB- I'll have the last laugh. 

    @poeticg said:

    That's not the case AT ALL.

    Clearly, Hogan demonstrated all season that he was better than both Kizer and Kessler and they sank him on the depth chart anyway. Cleveland is clueless.

    Why would you put up with that? I wouldn't- and I wouldn't expect you to either. He'll go somewhere else to a team that can evaluate and develop talent.

    And when he's starting and winning games and we've another bust at QB- I'll have the last laugh. 

    Yeah Po- we know Hue was tanking games on purpose, not putting your guy in.  Mark already bet you Hogan won't start anywhere, but you're still living in the Po fantasy world. Hogan has been evaluated by both the Chiefs and Browns- but you think he should go for the trifecta. 

    @poeticg said:

    Who the Shmuck is Stanton... an old nobody. Great sign. 

    An old nobody Hogan was smart enough to realize he couldn't beat out.  You must think Andy Reid is dumb too- they cut Hogan in KC.  If Kevin had shown any hint of starting material, the Browns wouldn't have wasted a draft pick on Taylor. Hogan will soon follow our other similarly talented former third string quarterback Connor Shaw into oblivion.  

  • @poeticg said:

    That's not the case AT ALL.

    Clearly, Hogan demonstrated all season that he was better than both Kizer and Kessler and they sank him on the depth chart anyway. Cleveland is clueless.

    Why would you put up with that? I wouldn't- and I wouldn't expect you to either. He'll go somewhere else to a team that can evaluate and develop talent.

    And when he's starting and winning games and we've another bust at QB- I'll have the last laugh. 

    Yeah Po- we know Hue was tanking games on purpose, not putting your guy in.  Mark already bet you Hogan won't start anywhere, but you're still living in the Po fantasy world. Hogan has been evaluated by both the Chiefs and Browns- but you think he should go for the trifecta. 

    @poeticg said:

    Who the Shmuck is Stanton... an old nobody. Great sign. 

    An old nobody Hogan was smart enough to realize he couldn't beat out.  You must think Andy Reid is dumb too- they cut Hogan in KC.  If Kevin had shown any hint of starting material, the Browns wouldn't have wasted a draft pick on Taylor. Hogan will soon follow our other similarly talented former third string quarterback Connor Shaw into oblivion.  

    @hoorta said:

    Yeah Po- we know Hue was tanking games on purpose, not putting your guy in.  Mark already bet you Hogan won't start anywhere, but you're still living in the Po fantasy world. Hogan has been evaluated by both the Chiefs and Browns- but you think he should go for the trifecta. 

    An old nobody Hogan was smart enough to realize he couldn't beat out.  You must think Andy Reid is dumb too- they cut Hogan in KC.  If Kevin had shown any hint of starting material, the Browns wouldn't have wasted a draft pick on Taylor. Hogan will soon follow our other similarly talented former third string quarterback Connor Shaw into oblivion.  

    I'm telling you...he's just a troll.  He doesn't believe any of the bullshit he posts.  It's just for attention.   

  • Kevin Hogan

    Saquon Barkley

    Josh Gordon

    David Njoku

    Jarvis Landry

    Corey Coleman

    I could coach that team to 8+ wins. The only guy on this list that Hogan got to play with was Njoku. With another offseason of development and the pieces around him... You are stupid if you don't think Hogan could win with a supporting cast like that.

    @poeticg said:

    Kevin Hogan

    Saquon Barkley

    Josh Gordon

    David Njoku

    Jarvis Landry

    Corey Coleman

    I could coach that team to 8+ wins. The only guy on this list that Hogan got to play with was Njoku. With another offseason of development and the pieces around him... You are stupid if you don't think Hogan could win with a supporting cast like that.

    No, we think you should become a fan of whichever teams Hogan and Barkley wind up on. It won't be the Browns. 

    Dorsey isn't even taking time out of his busy draft evaluation days to see if he can sucker some team into giving him a bag of Doritos for Kevin. He's leaving that up to Hogan's agent to do the calling.  If you haven't been following the latest trends, it's around 99% certain the Browns are drafting a quarterback at #1, the only question that remains is which one.  

  • @hoorta said:

    Yeah Po- we know Hue was tanking games on purpose, not putting your guy in.  Mark already bet you Hogan won't start anywhere, but you're still living in the Po fantasy world. Hogan has been evaluated by both the Chiefs and Browns- but you think he should go for the trifecta. 

    An old nobody Hogan was smart enough to realize he couldn't beat out.  You must think Andy Reid is dumb too- they cut Hogan in KC.  If Kevin had shown any hint of starting material, the Browns wouldn't have wasted a draft pick on Taylor. Hogan will soon follow our other similarly talented former third string quarterback Connor Shaw into oblivion.  

    I'm telling you...he's just a troll.  He doesn't believe any of the bullshit he posts.  It's just for attention.   

    @mark-o said:

    I'm telling you...he's just a troll.  He doesn't believe any of the cowpoop he posts.  It's just for attention.   

    Mark, I honestly think Po actually believes the stuff he's spewing. Look at his sig line- he's living in some alternate reality. 

  • @mark-o said:

    I'm telling you...he's just a troll.  He doesn't believe any of the cowpoop he posts.  It's just for attention.   

    Mark, I honestly think Po actually believes the stuff he's spewing. Look at his sig line- he's living in some alternate reality. 

    @hoorta said:

    Mark, I honestly think Po actually believes the stuff he's spewing. Look at his sig line- he's living in some alternate reality. 

    Po is not a troll. The guy believes in Hogan. He is no more a hysterical fan than anyone else here. People have their favorites, and each has facts, observations and beliefs that they personally believe are football reality. Blast the guy about Hogan, but it isn't like anyone else we had was any better. I personally think Hogan smells like Zombo, but Po is an okay dude.

  • @poeticg said:

    Kevin Hogan

    Saquon Barkley

    Josh Gordon

    David Njoku

    Jarvis Landry

    Corey Coleman

    I could coach that team to 8+ wins. The only guy on this list that Hogan got to play with was Njoku. With another offseason of development and the pieces around him... You are stupid if you don't think Hogan could win with a supporting cast like that.

    No, we think you should become a fan of whichever teams Hogan and Barkley wind up on. It won't be the Browns. 

    Dorsey isn't even taking time out of his busy draft evaluation days to see if he can sucker some team into giving him a bag of Doritos for Kevin. He's leaving that up to Hogan's agent to do the calling.  If you haven't been following the latest trends, it's around 99% certain the Browns are drafting a quarterback at #1, the only question that remains is which one.  

    @hoorta said:

    No, we think you should become a fan of whichever teams Hogan and Barkley wind up on. It won't be the Browns. 

    Dorsey isn't even taking time out his busy draft evaluation days to see if he can sucker some team into giving him a bag of Doritos for Kevin. He's leaving that up to Hogan's agent to do the calling.  If you haven't been following the latest trends, it's around 99% certain the Browns are drafting a quarterback at #1, the only question that remains is which one.  

    Larry, let's combine some thoughts, tame the BS and as we do every once in awhile, get back to football.

    In 2017, I think you will agree with me that while we can debate whether or not Garrett was the BPA and right choice, there was also a certain logic for the Browns to take him because the general consensus on Myles at least guaranteed the team that if he busted, they would not face ridicule, because as you pointed out, everyone was (save me) wanted Garrett.

    So, given the reality that not only do we need a top QB prospect, there is again pressure to the extent if the Browns don't take a QB at #1, there will be a lot of second-guessing, and god forbid ridicule if we again suck and have no QB. SO the psychological and analytical "pressure" if you will, seem to come as close to a guarantee as there is, that we will take a QB at #1. WHich one? I don't know, and wouldn't blast whoever of the top 3 we take. They all seem to have great upside.

    WIth Hyude and Duke aboard, Barkley would seem to be not only unlikely but even to me, a Barkley supporter, idiotic, like self-immolation.

    My curiosity then is what they do at #4. I don't think you will find it trolling to express the question of would the Browns actually pay a #1 and #4 salary this year? DePo likes acquiring more picks, and finding value lower down the ladder. Who would the Browns take at #4 if, say, they took Rosen at #1? The giants are insane if they don't take Barkley, so a QB goes at #3, and the Browns are back on the clock. There isn't a WR who deserves the #4, and some are saying Fitzpatrick is our #4. Chubb will be available. 

    SO, I am okay with a QB and CHubb. I think a QB and a trade down will be a downer, and a mistake.