Rosen
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Bucky was a cb. yeah, he's a real expert at quarterbacking. Played for five different teams in fives years, mostly
as a kr. nah.
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Bucky was a cb. yeah, he's a real expert at quarterbacking. Played for five different teams in fives years, mostly
as a kr. nah.
Bucky was a cb. yeah, he's a real expert at quarterbacking. Played for five different teams in fives years, mostly
as a kr. nah.
Generally we DB's can spot a good QB when we see one. Helps when you have to faced the Schmuckers.
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he was mostly a kick returner, though. Unless qb's were trying to tackle him on special teams...
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Generally we DB's can spot a good QB when we see one. Helps when you have to faced the Schmuckers.
Well said! Bucky also played 4 years of WR at NC. https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/bucky-brooks-1.html
Bucky Brooks
School: North Carolina
Position: WR
Draft: 2nd round, 48th overall of the 1994 NFL draft by the Buffalo Bills
Receiving & Rushing
Receiving Rushing Scrimmage Year School Conf Class Pos G Rec Yds Avg TD Att Yds Avg TD Plays Yds Avg TD Career North Carolina 63 1154 18.3 10 4 99 24.8 0 67 1253 18.7 10 1989 North Carolina ACC WR 11 12 144 12.0 0 12 144 12.0 0 1990 North Carolina ACC WR 11 5 96 19.2 1 5 96 19.2 1 1992 North Carolina ACC WR 11 21 400 19.0 3 1 68 68.0 0 22 468 21.3 3 1993 North Carolina ACC WR 12 25 514 20.6 6 3 31 10.3 0 28 545 19.5 6 -
So Bucky Brooks isn’t qualified to comment on QB’s because he “only” played WR and CB, but you are because....?
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So Bucky Brooks isn’t qualified to comment on QB’s because he “only” played WR and CB, but you are because....?
So Bucky Brooks isn’t qualified to comment on QB’s because he “only” played WR and CB, but you are because....?
".....I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night?"
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So Bucky Brooks isn’t qualified to comment on QB’s because he “only” played WR and CB, but you are because....?
So Bucky Brooks isn’t qualified to comment on QB’s because he “only” played WR and CB, but you are because....?
Because he finally started watching tape like two weeks ago.
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never said I was qualified. I just do. we don't get paid to be Tour's "experts".
Apparently, bucky doesn't understand much,, that's all.
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never said I was qualified. I just do. we don't get paid to be Tour's "experts".
Apparently, bucky doesn't understand much,, that's all.
never said I was qualified. I just do. we don't get paid to be Tour's "experts".
Apparently, bucky doesn't understand much,, that's all.
He just doesn't understand those intangibles bruh.
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I don't like Schumcky Cooks. If Rosen is the best qb in the draft why is he mocking Allen to the Browns? Yuccky's cow poop meanderings Steve.
I have "experts"? Cool...
I don't like Schumcky Cooks. If Rosen is the best qb in the draft why is he mocking Allen to the Browns? Yuccky's cow poop meanderings Steve.
C'mon, h... you've said it yourself... rankings are different from Mocks. In the latter you say what you think the teams will do. While the former is an ordering of the talent as Bucky... or you... or I... or even cal, sees it.
Here's the odd thing about Bucky... he's completed his "books" on each of the top four QBs (plus two RBs and counting) except the QB that comes first alphabetically. And since he has already clued us in that the missing QB is not his top dog, we know he's not saving the best for last. So why the delay?
Three more weeks of click-bait mocks to go...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
I have "experts"? Cool...
I don't like Schumcky Cooks. If Rosen is the best qb in the draft why is he mocking Allen to the Browns? Yuccky's cow poop meanderings Steve.
C'mon, h... you've said it yourself... rankings are different from Mocks. In the latter you say what you think the teams will do. While the former is an ordering of the talent as Bucky... or you... or I... or even cal, sees it.
Here's the odd thing about Bucky... he's completed his "books" on each of the top four QBs (plus two RBs and counting) except the QB that comes first alphabetically. And since he has already clued us in that the missing QB is not his top dog, we know he's not saving the best for last. So why the delay?
Three more weeks of click-bait mocks to go...
I have "experts"? Cool...
C'mon, h... you've said it yourself... rankings are different from Mocks. In the latter you say what you think the teams will do. While the former is an ordering of the talent as Bucky... or you... or I... or even cal, sees it.
Here's the odd thing about Bucky... he's completed his "books" on each of the top four QBs (plus two RBs and counting) except the QB that comes first alphabetically. And since he has already clued us in that the missing QB is not his top dog, we know he's not saving the best for last. So why the delay?
Three more weeks of click-bait mocks to go...
Yep, a few more weeks to go. The crazy thing to me is that we know the draft hardly ever goes like people think, and this one could be absolutely crazy, especially early. Now we have the Patriots with 2 first rounders I think, and the popular thinking is THEY might be collecting assets to move up for a QB. So now we have Browns, Bills, and Pats with 2 picks, and they all want a QB, possibly.
I'll tell you what, I've seen some videos of Josh Rosen lately, and I think the guy has done himself some good. He comes off as likeable, funny, and having more personality than given credit for. He's also answered some tough questions, some of them personal in nature. I've been impressed by him, and I'm guessing NFL execs are too. Now, along the same line is Baker Mayfield. THAT guy is popping up everywhere (on TV), and let me tell you, that kid has personality. Now, nobody gets drafted because they'd win a popularity contest, but Baker seems like a guy people would WANT to play with. He's funny, driven, and can really sling it. I think he's the perfect guy to be the face of a franchise that has struggled more than any in history. I really do. That being said, Josh Rosen has gone a long way to squish any fear I had about him being a douche bag and having no personality. Is he arrogant? I don't think so. I believe he's confident, and that's what I WANT.
The guy I'm concerned about is Sam Darnold. He just seems to have this "Aw Shucks" type of mentality. Now, I realize I don't really know any of these guys, and what I see on TV doesn't really mean squat, but I do wonder if Darnold has that "It Factor". How's he going to respond after getting his azz whipped in a game and throwing 3 picks? Because in my crazy mind, after Baker Mayfield throws 3 picks and loses a game, he's going to enter the "Insane Zone" and work his tail completely off without losing confidence.
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I have "experts"? Cool...
C'mon, h... you've said it yourself... rankings are different from Mocks. In the latter you say what you think the teams will do. While the former is an ordering of the talent as Bucky... or you... or I... or even cal, sees it.
Here's the odd thing about Bucky... he's completed his "books" on each of the top four QBs (plus two RBs and counting) except the QB that comes first alphabetically. And since he has already clued us in that the missing QB is not his top dog, we know he's not saving the best for last. So why the delay?
Three more weeks of click-bait mocks to go...
Yep, a few more weeks to go. The crazy thing to me is that we know the draft hardly ever goes like people think, and this one could be absolutely crazy, especially early. Now we have the Patriots with 2 first rounders I think, and the popular thinking is THEY might be collecting assets to move up for a QB. So now we have Browns, Bills, and Pats with 2 picks, and they all want a QB, possibly.
I'll tell you what, I've seen some videos of Josh Rosen lately, and I think the guy has done himself some good. He comes off as likeable, funny, and having more personality than given credit for. He's also answered some tough questions, some of them personal in nature. I've been impressed by him, and I'm guessing NFL execs are too. Now, along the same line is Baker Mayfield. THAT guy is popping up everywhere (on TV), and let me tell you, that kid has personality. Now, nobody gets drafted because they'd win a popularity contest, but Baker seems like a guy people would WANT to play with. He's funny, driven, and can really sling it. I think he's the perfect guy to be the face of a franchise that has struggled more than any in history. I really do. That being said, Josh Rosen has gone a long way to squish any fear I had about him being a douche bag and having no personality. Is he arrogant? I don't think so. I believe he's confident, and that's what I WANT.
The guy I'm concerned about is Sam Darnold. He just seems to have this "Aw Shucks" type of mentality. Now, I realize I don't really know any of these guys, and what I see on TV doesn't really mean squat, but I do wonder if Darnold has that "It Factor". How's he going to respond after getting his azz whipped in a game and throwing 3 picks? Because in my crazy mind, after Baker Mayfield throws 3 picks and loses a game, he's going to enter the "Insane Zone" and work his tail completely off without losing confidence.
Yep, a few more weeks to go. The crazy thing to me is that we know the draft hardly ever goes like people think, and this one could be absolutely crazy, especially early. Now we have the Patriots with 2 first rounders I think, and the popular thinking is THEY might be collecting assets to move up for a QB. So now we have Browns, Bills, and Pats with 2 picks, and they all want a QB, possibly.
I'll tell you what, I've seen some videos of Josh Rosen lately, and I think the guy has done himself some good. He comes off as likeable, funny, and having more personality than given credit for. He's also answered some tough questions, some of them personal in nature. I've been impressed by him, and I'm guessing NFL execs are too. Now, along the same line is Baker Mayfield. THAT guy is popping up everywhere (on TV), and let me tell you, that kid has personality. Now, nobody gets drafted because they'd win a popularity contest, but Baker seems like a guy people would WANT to play with. He's funny, driven, and can really sling it. I think he's the perfect guy to be the face of a franchise that has struggled more than any in history. I really do. That being said, Josh Rosen has gone a long way to squish any fear I had about him being a douche bag and having no personality. Is he arrogant? I don't think so. I believe he's confident, and that's what I WANT.
The guy I'm concerned about is Sam Darnold. He just seems to have this "Aw Shucks" type of mentality. Now, I realize I don't really know any of these guys, and what I see on TV doesn't really mean squat, but I do wonder if Darnold has that "It Factor". How's he going to respond after getting his azz whipped in a game and throwing 3 picks? Because in my crazy mind, after Baker Mayfield throws 3 picks and loses a game, he's going to enter the "Insane Zone" and work his tail completely off without losing confidence.
I agree. What the Browns need to do is draft the best QB. All this talk of "ceiling" is fine, but "ceiling" hasn't yet been reached & MAY NEVER be reached. I'll support any QB Dorsey & co pick, but I will be elated with either Rosen or Mayfield. We'll see in 17 days.
Mike
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I have "experts"? Cool...
C'mon, h... you've said it yourself... rankings are different from Mocks. In the latter you say what you think the teams will do. While the former is an ordering of the talent as Bucky... or you... or I... or even cal, sees it.
Here's the odd thing about Bucky... he's completed his "books" on each of the top four QBs (plus two RBs and counting) except the QB that comes first alphabetically. And since he has already clued us in that the missing QB is not his top dog, we know he's not saving the best for last. So why the delay?
Three more weeks of click-bait mocks to go...
Yep, a few more weeks to go. The crazy thing to me is that we know the draft hardly ever goes like people think, and this one could be absolutely crazy, especially early. Now we have the Patriots with 2 first rounders I think, and the popular thinking is THEY might be collecting assets to move up for a QB. So now we have Browns, Bills, and Pats with 2 picks, and they all want a QB, possibly.
I'll tell you what, I've seen some videos of Josh Rosen lately, and I think the guy has done himself some good. He comes off as likeable, funny, and having more personality than given credit for. He's also answered some tough questions, some of them personal in nature. I've been impressed by him, and I'm guessing NFL execs are too. Now, along the same line is Baker Mayfield. THAT guy is popping up everywhere (on TV), and let me tell you, that kid has personality. Now, nobody gets drafted because they'd win a popularity contest, but Baker seems like a guy people would WANT to play with. He's funny, driven, and can really sling it. I think he's the perfect guy to be the face of a franchise that has struggled more than any in history. I really do. That being said, Josh Rosen has gone a long way to squish any fear I had about him being a douche bag and having no personality. Is he arrogant? I don't think so. I believe he's confident, and that's what I WANT.
The guy I'm concerned about is Sam Darnold. He just seems to have this "Aw Shucks" type of mentality. Now, I realize I don't really know any of these guys, and what I see on TV doesn't really mean squat, but I do wonder if Darnold has that "It Factor". How's he going to respond after getting his azz whipped in a game and throwing 3 picks? Because in my crazy mind, after Baker Mayfield throws 3 picks and loses a game, he's going to enter the "Insane Zone" and work his tail completely off without losing confidence.
The guy I'm concerned about is Sam Darnold. He just seems to have this "Aw Shucks" type of mentality. Now, I realize I don't really know any of these guys, and what I see on TV doesn't really mean squat, but I do wonder if Darnold has that "It Factor". How's he going to respond after getting his azz whipped in a game and throwing 3 picks? Because in my crazy mind, after Baker Mayfield throws 3 picks and loses a game, he's going to enter the "Insane Zone" and work his tail completely off without losing confidence.
I think of Joe Montana who always kept the same demeanor, but played lights out. Hopefully if we pick Darnold he will be just a larger version of "Joe Cool".
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I have "experts"? Cool...
C'mon, h... you've said it yourself... rankings are different from Mocks. In the latter you say what you think the teams will do. While the former is an ordering of the talent as Bucky... or you... or I... or even cal, sees it.
Here's the odd thing about Bucky... he's completed his "books" on each of the top four QBs (plus two RBs and counting) except the QB that comes first alphabetically. And since he has already clued us in that the missing QB is not his top dog, we know he's not saving the best for last. So why the delay?
Three more weeks of click-bait mocks to go...
Yep, a few more weeks to go. The crazy thing to me is that we know the draft hardly ever goes like people think, and this one could be absolutely crazy, especially early. Now we have the Patriots with 2 first rounders I think, and the popular thinking is THEY might be collecting assets to move up for a QB. So now we have Browns, Bills, and Pats with 2 picks, and they all want a QB, possibly.
I'll tell you what, I've seen some videos of Josh Rosen lately, and I think the guy has done himself some good. He comes off as likeable, funny, and having more personality than given credit for. He's also answered some tough questions, some of them personal in nature. I've been impressed by him, and I'm guessing NFL execs are too. Now, along the same line is Baker Mayfield. THAT guy is popping up everywhere (on TV), and let me tell you, that kid has personality. Now, nobody gets drafted because they'd win a popularity contest, but Baker seems like a guy people would WANT to play with. He's funny, driven, and can really sling it. I think he's the perfect guy to be the face of a franchise that has struggled more than any in history. I really do. That being said, Josh Rosen has gone a long way to squish any fear I had about him being a douche bag and having no personality. Is he arrogant? I don't think so. I believe he's confident, and that's what I WANT.
The guy I'm concerned about is Sam Darnold. He just seems to have this "Aw Shucks" type of mentality. Now, I realize I don't really know any of these guys, and what I see on TV doesn't really mean squat, but I do wonder if Darnold has that "It Factor". How's he going to respond after getting his azz whipped in a game and throwing 3 picks? Because in my crazy mind, after Baker Mayfield throws 3 picks and loses a game, he's going to enter the "Insane Zone" and work his tail completely off without losing confidence.
Yep, a few more weeks to go. The crazy thing to me is that we know the draft hardly ever goes like people think, and this one could be absolutely crazy, especially early. Now we have the Patriots with 2 first rounders I think, and the popular thinking is THEY might be collecting assets to move up for a QB. So now we have Browns, Bills, and Pats with 2 picks, and they all want a QB, possibly.
I'll tell you what, I've seen some videos of Josh Rosen lately, and I think the guy has done himself some good. He comes off as likeable, funny, and having more personality than given credit for. He's also answered some tough questions, some of them personal in nature. I've been impressed by him, and I'm guessing NFL execs are too. Now, along the same line is Baker Mayfield. THAT guy is popping up everywhere (on TV), and let me tell you, that kid has personality. Now, nobody gets drafted because they'd win a popularity contest, but Baker seems like a guy people would WANT to play with. He's funny, driven, and can really sling it. I think he's the perfect guy to be the face of a franchise that has struggled more than any in history. I really do. That being said, Josh Rosen has gone a long way to squish any fear I had about him being a douche bag and having no personality. Is he arrogant? I don't think so. I believe he's confident, and that's what I WANT.
The guy I'm concerned about is Sam Darnold. He just seems to have this "Aw Shucks" type of mentality. Now, I realize I don't really know any of these guys, and what I see on TV doesn't really mean squat, but I do wonder if Darnold has that "It Factor". How's he going to respond after getting his azz whipped in a game and throwing 3 picks? Because in my crazy mind, after Baker Mayfield throws 3 picks and loses a game, he's going to enter the "Insane Zone" and work his tail completely off without losing confidence.
The reports on Darnold is not that he is an "Aw Shucks" kind of guy. He's just not a rah rah type of guy similar to Mayfield. He is more of an introvert. He's not going to go yelling and screaming at you when you make a mistake. He will stay even keeled and then have that discussion later on. However, he will have your back to the very end no matter what. He cut short his visit with the browns to go throw for a teammate. That says something. Also, Allen seems as though he is a bit of an introvert as well. I would be more concerned about him than I would about Darnold. Allen has not shown he can lead a team where as Darnold has proven that he has been on the highest of stages and the lowest but he has been the same guy the whole time.
Now, don't take this as there is anything wrong with the rah rah guy mentality. Some players love that fire and passion. It has to fit into the locker room mentality. I, honestly, do not know what kind of locker room the browns have. Is it low key, is it crazy, is it intense? Players can feed off this which part of the reason why OU players loved Baker. He got them fired up. My concern would be those are 18-22 year olds playing a game, and the NFL is a bunch of grown men trying to make a living.
The question about Mayfield's emotions, is whether he can keep them controlled. "Insane Zone" sounds great, except the qb has to be able to shake off those three picks and not harp on them and just move forward. Mayfield seems to feed on all the "haters" and "doubters". I think this is what concerns front offices, is the fact that he may not be able to handle rejection or poor games well enough to just move on.
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I have "experts"? Cool...
C'mon, h... you've said it yourself... rankings are different from Mocks. In the latter you say what you think the teams will do. While the former is an ordering of the talent as Bucky... or you... or I... or even cal, sees it.
Here's the odd thing about Bucky... he's completed his "books" on each of the top four QBs (plus two RBs and counting) except the QB that comes first alphabetically. And since he has already clued us in that the missing QB is not his top dog, we know he's not saving the best for last. So why the delay?
Three more weeks of click-bait mocks to go...
Yep, a few more weeks to go. The crazy thing to me is that we know the draft hardly ever goes like people think, and this one could be absolutely crazy, especially early. Now we have the Patriots with 2 first rounders I think, and the popular thinking is THEY might be collecting assets to move up for a QB. So now we have Browns, Bills, and Pats with 2 picks, and they all want a QB, possibly.
I'll tell you what, I've seen some videos of Josh Rosen lately, and I think the guy has done himself some good. He comes off as likeable, funny, and having more personality than given credit for. He's also answered some tough questions, some of them personal in nature. I've been impressed by him, and I'm guessing NFL execs are too. Now, along the same line is Baker Mayfield. THAT guy is popping up everywhere (on TV), and let me tell you, that kid has personality. Now, nobody gets drafted because they'd win a popularity contest, but Baker seems like a guy people would WANT to play with. He's funny, driven, and can really sling it. I think he's the perfect guy to be the face of a franchise that has struggled more than any in history. I really do. That being said, Josh Rosen has gone a long way to squish any fear I had about him being a douche bag and having no personality. Is he arrogant? I don't think so. I believe he's confident, and that's what I WANT.
The guy I'm concerned about is Sam Darnold. He just seems to have this "Aw Shucks" type of mentality. Now, I realize I don't really know any of these guys, and what I see on TV doesn't really mean squat, but I do wonder if Darnold has that "It Factor". How's he going to respond after getting his azz whipped in a game and throwing 3 picks? Because in my crazy mind, after Baker Mayfield throws 3 picks and loses a game, he's going to enter the "Insane Zone" and work his tail completely off without losing confidence.
Nice takes, Bigs... especially the Mayfield concern around his channeling his passion. In a sit and learn situation on a team that is still going to lose more than it wins he concerns me. That said he is still my #2 choice.
I'll tell you what, I've seen some videos of Josh Rosen lately, and I think the guy has done himself some good. He comes off as likeable, funny, and having more personality than given credit for. He's also answered some tough questions, some of them personal in nature. I've been impressed by him, and I'm guessing NFL execs are too.
The guy I'm concerned about is Sam Darnold. He just seems to have this "Aw Shucks" type of mentality. Now, I realize I don't really know any of these guys, and what I see on TV doesn't really mean squat, but I do wonder if Darnold has that "It Factor". How's he going to respond after getting his azz whipped in a game and throwing 3 picks? Because in my crazy mind, after Baker Mayfield throws 3 picks and loses a game, he's going to enter the "Insane Zone" and work his tail completely off without losing confidence.
As I alluded to above, I'd be more concerned about Baker's reaction after Tyrod throws three INTs to lose a game.
Darnold? Fair or not I still get a Cali-cool, Leinart vibe... and that's on top of there being so much wrong mechanically with the kid.
As for Rosen... I thought the off-field was overblown to begin with, but agree that he's dealt well, about as well as can be expected, with a difficult area to address.
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Remember how opposing defenses went out of their way to Shmuck with Manziel when he made appearances for the Browns?
I fully expect NFL defensive players to do the same with Mayfield.
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Darnold? Fair or not I still get a Cali-cool, Leinart vibe... and that's on top of there being so much wrong mechanically with the kid. Tour
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That is fair, but pitifully hypocritical when you don't see a "cali-cool, Leinart vibe" about your idol, rosen.
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Darnold? Fair or not I still get a Cali-cool, Leinart vibe... and that's on top of there being so much wrong mechanically with the kid. Tour
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That is fair, but pitifully hypocritical when you don't see a "cali-cool, Leinart vibe" about your idol, rosen.
Darnold? Fair or not I still get a Cali-cool, Leinart vibe... and that's on top of there being so much wrong mechanically with the kid. Tour
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That is fair, but pitifully hypocritical when you don't see a "cali-cool, Leinart vibe" about your idol, rosen.
....how?
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Darnold? Fair or not I still get a Cali-cool, Leinart vibe... and that's on top of there being so much wrong mechanically with the kid. Tour
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That is fair, but pitifully hypocritical when you don't see a "cali-cool, Leinart vibe" about your idol, rosen.
....how?
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Nice takes, Bigs... especially the Mayfield concern around his channeling his passion. In a sit and learn situation on a team that is still going to lose more than it wins he concerns me. That said he is still my #2 choice.
I'll tell you what, I've seen some videos of Josh Rosen lately, and I think the guy has done himself some good. He comes off as likeable, funny, and having more personality than given credit for. He's also answered some tough questions, some of them personal in nature. I've been impressed by him, and I'm guessing NFL execs are too.
The guy I'm concerned about is Sam Darnold. He just seems to have this "Aw Shucks" type of mentality. Now, I realize I don't really know any of these guys, and what I see on TV doesn't really mean squat, but I do wonder if Darnold has that "It Factor". How's he going to respond after getting his azz whipped in a game and throwing 3 picks? Because in my crazy mind, after Baker Mayfield throws 3 picks and loses a game, he's going to enter the "Insane Zone" and work his tail completely off without losing confidence.
As I alluded to above, I'd be more concerned about Baker's reaction after Tyrod throws three INTs to lose a game.
Darnold? Fair or not I still get a Cali-cool, Leinart vibe... and that's on top of there being so much wrong mechanically with the kid.
As for Rosen... I thought the off-field was overblown to begin with, but agree that he's dealt well, about as well as can be expected, with a difficult area to address.
he's dealt well, about as well as can be expected, with a difficult area to address.
Gotta disagree with you.. sort of. It wasn't difficult to address -- it was a complete lie from the beginning because Rosen had the temerity to give nuanced answers rather than the no-content gurglings that the press decides they "want" to hear. And I think he addressed things in the best way -- stay positive and be calm and confident.
Funny how there's zip/zero issue with Rosen as of now. That link is to Gil Brandt of SI -- as establishment as they come, and if they're putting that in SI's premiere draft article.. we can be sure that the reality is that the attempted smear is now an entirely dead issue.
“I have zero questions about Josh Rosen. I have no problems with him at all.”
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