Ghoolie at the Masters
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Fleetwood and McIlroy make masters moves
Fleetwood Mac ......as the Rumors go ....
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Just curious since you mentioned your wife....is she an avid browns fan like yourself?
Do you guys have your little spats, or is she pretty much in agreement with you?
Whats really funny is when one spouse is a browns fan and the other a Steeler fan.
My wife doesn't give a Sheet about sports.
My wife thinks the Browns are the most useless franchise in all of sports. She finds Browns fans to be the most childish, tantrum-prone jackoffs of all fans. She is not a huge sports fan, but she is, God only knows why, a Ghoolie fan. When we first started dating she came to Browns backers Sunday with me, for about 2 years. After about 4 or 5 games she came to see all that is Browns, as being fukcked up. Still, she humored me. She gravitated towards the Steelers, at first because of what she picked up was an illogical, childish, moronic hatred coming from Browns fans. But she liked Cowher, and smashmouth football. Overall, now, the only comments she makes have to do with, "why do you still follow that schitpile?
She is a principal in her firm and has worthwhile things to do with her time, unlike us. LOL.
My wife thinks the Browns are the most useless franchise in all of sports. She finds Browns fans to be the most childish, tantrum-prone jackoffs of all fans. She is not a huge sports fan, but she is, God only knows why, a Ghoolie fan. When we first started dating she came to Browns backers Sunday with me, for about 2 years. After about 4 or 5 games she came to see all that is Browns, as being fukcked up. Still, she humored me. She gravitated towards the Steelers, at first because of what she picked up was an illogical, childish, moronic hatred coming from Browns fans. But she liked Cowher, and smashmouth football. Overall, now, the only comments she makes have to do with, "why do you still follow that schitpile?
She is a principal in her firm and has worthwhile things to do with her time, unlike us. LOL.
That's where the hate started. Tell me if I'm wrong Ghoolie.
The 70's came along and that sneaky art Modell convinced Art Rooney to join the AFC Central. With the lowly Steelers now in the division, Modell (and browns fans) thought the Browns would pick up where they left off in the 60's and continue their domination.
Instead it was the Steelers who did the dominating, winning all those Super Bowls, ...The Steeler Dynasty, the national attention.
That just didn't sit right with the browns faithful, that was supposed to be us, the Cleveland Browns, "Gods gift to football", not the Steelers. Those motherfukcing Squeeler bastards, hate em!!!! Die muthafukcers!!!
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Whether or not Ghoolie is going, I dont know. It would be a great opportunity if he is. I enjoy golf, but Augusta looks absolutely gorgeous. I dont know what tickets go for what and the difference, but I heard earlier this week that the AVERAGE price for a ticket was 7700. Double from last year since Woods is playing
Gunz,
I have no reason to lie, and I don't. I have been pretty blessed in life. I enjoy sharing good things that happen to me, but I don't gloat about it, and save the " it is good to be the king fun" never have I taken a position of thinking I am all that. As it happens, life has been spectacular in ways I still just can't define.
I am both flattered and humbled by this opportunity. For the doubting Thomas's I will put our slot host, Debra on a video tonight and on the flight tomorrow. She can relay the story about Caesars and this magnificent opportunity. They have complimentary photos inside the place, and I will surely get one for the board. More than anything, I was not bragging, but instead sharing something, that after a year of losing my Mom, my wife losing a brother and a sister, and us having to put 2 dogs down, has been the start of a wonderful almost unbelievable year.
The fact is, my wife and I are fortunate to gamble at a pretty high level, not whales, but.........we wind up with several first class trips to Vegas every year. air and all, (2 already this year) the trip to Agusta tomorrow, a 7 day Alaska Cruise in June, three more comped trips to vegas in Augus, Decemner, and our anniversary (got married in Vegas) over Halloween week.
As it is, Caesars is sending us on a very expensive trip tomorrow. reserved seats on 18? Unbelievable. Even a barbarian like me can't pass that up.
I hope a few folks here enjoy the trip right along with me. Sometimes, people are too intense about football.............that is the entire extent of my schtick, dude.
Have a great weekend. God willing, Cathy and I will, too.
Gunz,
I have no reason to lie, and I don't. I have been pretty blessed in life. I enjoy sharing good things that happen to me, but I don't gloat about it, and save the " it is good to be the king fun" never have I taken a position of thinking I am all that. As it happens, life has been spectacular in ways I still just can't define.
I am both flattered and humbled by this opportunity. For the doubting Thomas's I will put our slot host, Debra on a video tonight and on the flight tomorrow. She can relay the story about Caesars and this magnificent opportunity. They have complimentary photos inside the place, and I will surely get one for the board. More than anything, I was not bragging, but instead sharing something, that after a year of losing my Mom, my wife losing a brother and a sister, and us having to put 2 dogs down, has been the start of a wonderful almost unbelievable year.
The fact is, my wife and I are fortunate to gamble at a pretty high level, not whales, but.........we wind up with several first class trips to Vegas every year. air and all, (2 already this year) the trip to Agusta tomorrow, a 7 day Alaska Cruise in June, three more comped trips to vegas in Augus, Decemner, and our anniversary (got married in Vegas) over Halloween week.
As it is, Caesars is sending us on a very expensive trip tomorrow. reserved seats on 18? Unbelievable. Even a barbarian like me can't pass that up.
I hope a few folks here enjoy the trip right along with me. Sometimes, people are too intense about football.............that is the entire extent of my schtick, dude.
Have a great weekend. God willing, Cathy and I will, too.
Didn't say you were lying, at least about this. Others had questioned it, and was saying regardless that it is a great opportunity.
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Tom-I play the penny and nickel slots for nothing more than the entertainment of all the flashing lights and sounds. I take the amount I am willing to lose and play all day, often coming back with my "winnings", which translated means anything I bring back that I took there to lose but did not.
It doesn't get me tickets to Augusta, but it does get me "free" rooms. I've only known one "winner" in my life, my now deceased mother in law. Every time she went she played the quarters and every time she cashed in it was buckets (before the age of the "ticket") full of quarters. Never saw anyone so lucky.
Funniest moment in Vegas was a woman jumping up and down in front of a machine yelling, "I won, I won!!" She was playing a dollar machine so I asked how long it had taken. She said about 4 hours on that machine. So I asked how much she had lost before the hit and her answer was, "Oh about $1600, but I won! I won! I won!" Somehow feminine logic still eludes me.
BTW the old axiom in Vegas was that it was the place the $1 slots built. They can now revise that amount upwards since the advent of the multi-dollar machines.
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My wife thinks the Browns are the most useless franchise in all of sports. She finds Browns fans to be the most childish, tantrum-prone jackoffs of all fans. She is not a huge sports fan, but she is, God only knows why, a Ghoolie fan. When we first started dating she came to Browns backers Sunday with me, for about 2 years. After about 4 or 5 games she came to see all that is Browns, as being fukcked up. Still, she humored me. She gravitated towards the Steelers, at first because of what she picked up was an illogical, childish, moronic hatred coming from Browns fans. But she liked Cowher, and smashmouth football. Overall, now, the only comments she makes have to do with, "why do you still follow that schitpile?
She is a principal in her firm and has worthwhile things to do with her time, unlike us. LOL.
That's where the hate started. Tell me if I'm wrong Ghoolie.
The 70's came along and that sneaky art Modell convinced Art Rooney to join the AFC Central. With the lowly Steelers now in the division, Modell (and browns fans) thought the Browns would pick up where they left off in the 60's and continue their domination.
Instead it was the Steelers who did the dominating, winning all those Super Bowls, ...The Steeler Dynasty, the national attention.
That just didn't sit right with the browns faithful, that was supposed to be us, the Cleveland Browns, "Gods gift to football", not the Steelers. Those motherfukcing Squeeler bastards, hate em!!!! Die muthafukcers!!!
That's where the hate started. Tell me if I'm wrong Ghoolie.
The 70's came along and that sneaky art Modell convinced Art Rooney to join the AFC Central. With the lowly Steelers now in the division, Modell (and browns fans) thought the Browns would pick up where they left off in the 60's and continue their domination.
Instead it was the Steelers who did the dominating, winning all those Super Bowls, ...The Steeler Dynasty, the national attention.
That just didn't sit right with the browns faithful, that was supposed to be us, the Cleveland Browns, "Gods gift to football", not the Steelers. Those motherfukcing Squeeler bastards, hate em!!!! Die muthafukcers!!!
Before you hurt yourself chest pounding, your team still hasn't won the 8 Pro Football Championships the Cleveland Browns won within their first 18 years of existence (46-64). In fact, 7 of the 8 were already celebrated in the first 10 years. When you guys were bragging about One for the Thumb - the Cleveland Browns had their sights on One for the Second Thumb. Isn't that why Pittsburgh needed a Head Coach (Chuck Noll) that got his NFL potty training in Cleveland? And guess where the Head Coach (Bill Cowher) who replaced Noll got his NFL potty training? Let's do the math here, what program looked up to the other program more for solutions? If Jed Clampett can find oil - you can get this some day. And when that day finally arrives, you will see the dynasty in Cleveland never had anything to be envious of in Pittsburgh.
And your creepy flirtation with Ghoolie almost looks like you want him to put on a pulse tight red Santa suit so you can sit on his lap and talk about the first thing that pops up.
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Here I am, pretentending to go to the Masters, pretending that our slot host has us booked on a private jet, pretending to have a police escort limo to Augusta National.
I will post more pretend stuff as we do. T ro them.
The Cleveland Browns have the hardest hit players in the NFL -
That's where the hate started. Tell me if I'm wrong Ghoolie.
The 70's came along and that sneaky art Modell convinced Art Rooney to join the AFC Central. With the lowly Steelers now in the division, Modell (and browns fans) thought the Browns would pick up where they left off in the 60's and continue their domination.
Instead it was the Steelers who did the dominating, winning all those Super Bowls, ...The Steeler Dynasty, the national attention.
That just didn't sit right with the browns faithful, that was supposed to be us, the Cleveland Browns, "Gods gift to football", not the Steelers. Those motherfukcing Squeeler bastards, hate em!!!! Die muthafukcers!!!
Before you hurt yourself chest pounding, your team still hasn't won the 8 Pro Football Championships the Cleveland Browns won within their first 18 years of existence (46-64). In fact, 7 of the 8 were already celebrated in the first 10 years. When you guys were bragging about One for the Thumb - the Cleveland Browns had their sights on One for the Second Thumb. Isn't that why Pittsburgh needed a Head Coach (Chuck Noll) that got his NFL potty training in Cleveland? And guess where the Head Coach (Bill Cowher) who replaced Noll got his NFL potty training? Let's do the math here, what program looked up to the other program more for solutions? If Jed Clampett can find oil - you can get this some day. And when that day finally arrives, you will see the dynasty in Cleveland never had anything to be envious of in Pittsburgh.
And your creepy flirtation with Ghoolie almost looks like you want him to put on a pulse tight red Santa suit so you can sit on his lap and talk about the first thing that pops up.
Before you hurt yourself chest pounding, your team still hasn't won the 8 Pro Football Championships the Cleveland Browns won within their first 18 years of existence (46-64). In fact, 7 of the 8 were already celebrated in the first 10 years. When you guys were bragging about One for the Thumb - the Cleveland Browns had their sights on One for the Second Thumb. Isn't that why Pittsburgh needed a Head Coach (Chuck Noll) that got his NFL potty training in Cleveland? And guess where the Head Coach (Bill Cowher) who replaced Noll got his NFL potty training? Let's do the math here, what program looked up to the other program more for solutions? If Jed Clampett can find oil - you can get this some day. And when that day finally arrives, you will see the dynasty in Cleveland never had anything to be envious of in Pittsburgh.
And your creepy flirtation with Ghoolie almost looks like you want him to put on a pulse tight red Santa suit so you can sit on his lap and talk about the first thing that pops up.
You forgot to mention how the Steelers were everyone's doormat while the Brown's were defining the term "dynasty" and REMAINED a joke until Chuck Noll started juicing his entire roster to the hilt, a Rooney tradition at this point. Not exactly something to brag about.
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Here I am, pretentending to go to the Masters, pretending that our slot host has us booked on a private jet, pretending to have a police escort limo to Augusta National.
I will post more pretend stuff as we do. T ro them.
Here I am, pretentending to go to the Masters, pretending that our slot host has us booked on a private jet, pretending to have a police escort limo to Augusta National.
I will post more pretend stuff as we do. T ro them.
Awesome. Now we just have to work on your sick alter ego :).
Enjoy it bud. It's beautiful and pretty exciting
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Here I am, pretentending to go to the Masters, pretending that our slot host has us booked on a private jet, pretending to have a police escort limo to Augusta National.
I will post more pretend stuff as we do. T ro them.
Here I am, pretentending to go to the Masters, pretending that our slot host has us booked on a private jet, pretending to have a police escort limo to Augusta National.
I will post more pretend stuff as we do. T ro them.
You have been pretending to know about Football for years
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Here I am, pretentending to go to the Masters, pretending that our slot host has us booked on a private jet, pretending to have a police escort limo to Augusta National.
I will post more pretend stuff as we do. T ro them.
You have been pretending to know about Football for years
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Since this has nothing to do with the Browns, you'd think a moderator would move it to another forum.
Is there a forum for threads started by people who say they don't care about this board and the "fukcing idiots" on it, but feel the need to try and garner attention from these "fukcing idiots" on a daily basis?
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Since this has nothing to do with the Browns, you'd think a moderator would move it to another forum.
Is there a forum for threads started by people who say they don't care about this board and the "fukcing idiots" on it, but feel the need to try and garner attention from these "fukcing idiots" on a daily basis?
Since this has nothing to do with the Browns, you'd think a moderator would move it to another forum.
IKR...
Problem is we don't have a "Look at me" section...
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Since this has nothing to do with the Browns, you'd think a moderator would move it to another forum.
IKR...
Problem is we don't have a "Look at me" section...
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Ghoolie is a Steelers fan...
You didn't know that?
In a sense, he is a fan of the organization and how they run things as are so many across the country.
In a sense, he is a fan of the organization and how they run things as are so many across the country.
I AM a fan of the Steelers. Not when they play the Browns, but, because you idiots are all about tradition....................... I am a fan of Noll, Cowher and Bill Nelson.............. all Steelers. THink Bradshaw was the best QB of all time, certainly the best I have seen. How can you hate Swan, Blier, and the list of great HOF players goes on. As I said, for 12 years I relied on the people and institutions of the area to earn my living. Thanks to business in places like CMU, Allegheny General, US Steel Neville Islan, North Hilla Passivant, Pitt, Montifiore, PPG Allison Park, and more, I was able to buy a house, save money and build a nice living for myself.
Now, if some of think that Cleveland people are different, superior, and somehow special, then you are truly children. It is football, man. It isn't as important as family, friends, puppies, or any of a long list of schidt. Football is entertainment, nothing more. Honestly, I wouldn't go see the Steelers OR the Browns live, because I think pro sports today has very little life or humanitarian value.
The reason I never get upset or argue with you idiots calling me a Steeler fan is because there is nothing to argue about. What exactly IS your definition of a fan? I am a fan of Zepplin and Aerosmith....they both compete for airtime and fans. SO, am I a Steeler fan? Fukck yeah, sure. I am a Browns fan as well. The two are not mutually excplusive. Only in your pea brains is there some honor to either.
As SH pointed out, I AM a fan of how they operate their organization. So what is the big deal here? Oooooooh Ghoolie is a Steeler fan.... WTF? WHo even cares about this childish schidt?
The Cleveland Browns have the hardest hit players in the NFL -
Hey Tom, more "stuff" from the Masters please.
Hey Tom, more "stuff" from the Masters please.
Here is a bunch and a bunch more to come. I may have a few prizes as well.
I am going to post it all quoting a certain jackoff who claims "slot hosts can't do much"................. So...here comes more make belive stuff, of the make believe trip, to the make believe Masters that I didn't go to.
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In a sense, he is a fan of the organization and how they run things as are so many across the country.
I AM a fan of the Steelers. Not when they play the Browns, but, because you idiots are all about tradition....................... I am a fan of Noll, Cowher and Bill Nelson.............. all Steelers. THink Bradshaw was the best QB of all time, certainly the best I have seen. How can you hate Swan, Blier, and the list of great HOF players goes on. As I said, for 12 years I relied on the people and institutions of the area to earn my living. Thanks to business in places like CMU, Allegheny General, US Steel Neville Islan, North Hilla Passivant, Pitt, Montifiore, PPG Allison Park, and more, I was able to buy a house, save money and build a nice living for myself.
Now, if some of think that Cleveland people are different, superior, and somehow special, then you are truly children. It is football, man. It isn't as important as family, friends, puppies, or any of a long list of schidt. Football is entertainment, nothing more. Honestly, I wouldn't go see the Steelers OR the Browns live, because I think pro sports today has very little life or humanitarian value.
The reason I never get upset or argue with you idiots calling me a Steeler fan is because there is nothing to argue about. What exactly IS your definition of a fan? I am a fan of Zepplin and Aerosmith....they both compete for airtime and fans. SO, am I a Steeler fan? Fukck yeah, sure. I am a Browns fan as well. The two are not mutually excplusive. Only in your pea brains is there some honor to either.
As SH pointed out, I AM a fan of how they operate their organization. So what is the big deal here? Oooooooh Ghoolie is a Steeler fan.... WTF? WHo even cares about this childish schidt?
I AM a fan of the Steelers. Not when they play the Browns, but, because you idiots are all about tradition....................... I am a fan of Noll, Cowher and Bill Nelson.............. all Steelers. THink Bradshaw was the best QB of all time, certainly the best I have seen. How can you hate Swan, Blier, and the list of great HOF players goes on. As I said, for 12 years I relied on the people and institutions of the area to earn my living. Thanks to business in places like CMU, Allegheny General, US Steel Neville Islan, North Hilla Passivant, Pitt, Montifiore, PPG Allison Park, and more, I was able to buy a house, save money and build a nice living for myself.
Now, if some of think that Cleveland people are different, superior, and somehow special, then you are truly children. It is football, man. It isn't as important as family, friends, puppies, or any of a long list of schidt. Football is entertainment, nothing more. Honestly, I wouldn't go see the Steelers OR the Browns live, because I think pro sports today has very little life or humanitarian value.
The reason I never get upset or argue with you idiots calling me a Steeler fan is because there is nothing to argue about. What exactly IS your definition of a fan? I am a fan of Zepplin and Aerosmith....they both compete for airtime and fans. SO, am I a Steeler fan? Fukck yeah, sure. I am a Browns fan as well. The two are not mutually excplusive. Only in your pea brains is there some honor to either.
As SH pointed out, I AM a fan of how they operate their organization. So what is the big deal here? Oooooooh Ghoolie is a Steeler fan.... WTF? WHo even cares about this childish schidt?
LOL! There is truth to the rumor (started by me) that I am also a Broncos fan. But not Dallas, Houston or that other Texas U. over in Austin. Ironically enough I hold a Masters in SW (MSW) from that same University and really enjoyed the campus, classes and students I met there. But whenever they play A&M, (like tonight in baseball), there is no doubt where the real loyalty resides and it isn't in Austin. I don't have any problem with anyone who likes to follow more than one pro team as long as they root for the primary one when they meet the secondary one. If the Browns play the Broncos I want the Browns to win. Broncos have had their recent successes and it's time the Browns became viable again. I became a Broncos fan while working on a degree at Northern Colorado in Greeley where the Broncos held their summer preseason practices. They were free to the public and you could actually stand right on the sidelines as long as you did not get in anyone's way. I can't recall now but there may have been a rope just behind the bench you could not cross, but it was close enough to hear what was going on among the players/coaches. You learn a lot about pro ball when you see and hear it up that close. That was the days of Elway being coached by backup Kubiac on the sidelines. I knew from watching those guys that Kubiac was going to be an NFL coach some day. He was the brains behind a lot of the wins Elway's talent provided the Broncos.
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In a sense, he is a fan of the organization and how they run things as are so many across the country.
I AM a fan of the Steelers. Not when they play the Browns, but, because you idiots are all about tradition....................... I am a fan of Noll, Cowher and Bill Nelson.............. all Steelers. THink Bradshaw was the best QB of all time, certainly the best I have seen. How can you hate Swan, Blier, and the list of great HOF players goes on. As I said, for 12 years I relied on the people and institutions of the area to earn my living. Thanks to business in places like CMU, Allegheny General, US Steel Neville Islan, North Hilla Passivant, Pitt, Montifiore, PPG Allison Park, and more, I was able to buy a house, save money and build a nice living for myself.
Now, if some of think that Cleveland people are different, superior, and somehow special, then you are truly children. It is football, man. It isn't as important as family, friends, puppies, or any of a long list of schidt. Football is entertainment, nothing more. Honestly, I wouldn't go see the Steelers OR the Browns live, because I think pro sports today has very little life or humanitarian value.
The reason I never get upset or argue with you idiots calling me a Steeler fan is because there is nothing to argue about. What exactly IS your definition of a fan? I am a fan of Zepplin and Aerosmith....they both compete for airtime and fans. SO, am I a Steeler fan? Fukck yeah, sure. I am a Browns fan as well. The two are not mutually excplusive. Only in your pea brains is there some honor to either.
As SH pointed out, I AM a fan of how they operate their organization. So what is the big deal here? Oooooooh Ghoolie is a Steeler fan.... WTF? WHo even cares about this childish schidt?
I AM a fan of the Steelers. Not when they play the Browns, but, because you idiots are all about tradition....................... I am a fan of Noll, Cowher and Bill Nelson.............. all Steelers. THink Bradshaw was the best QB of all time, certainly the best I have seen. How can you hate Swan, Blier, and the list of great HOF players goes on. As I said, for 12 years I relied on the people and institutions of the area to earn my living. Thanks to business in places like CMU, Allegheny General, US Steel Neville Islan, North Hilla Passivant, Pitt, Montifiore, PPG Allison Park, and more, I was able to buy a house, save money and build a nice living for myself.
Now, if some of think that Cleveland people are different, superior, and somehow special, then you are truly children. It is football, man. It isn't as important as family, friends, puppies, or any of a long list of schidt. Football is entertainment, nothing more. Honestly, I wouldn't go see the Steelers OR the Browns live, because I think pro sports today has very little life or humanitarian value.
The reason I never get upset or argue with you idiots calling me a Steeler fan is because there is nothing to argue about. What exactly IS your definition of a fan? I am a fan of Zepplin and Aerosmith....they both compete for airtime and fans. SO, am I a Steeler fan? Fukck yeah, sure. I am a Browns fan as well. The two are not mutually excplusive. Only in your pea brains is there some honor to either.
As SH pointed out, I AM a fan of how they operate their organization. So what is the big deal here? Oooooooh Ghoolie is a Steeler fan.... WTF? WHo even cares about this childish schidt?
Thanks for clearing that up Ghoolie!
I've also heard Tony Grossi (who is definitely not a Steeler fan) get bashed for is admiration of the Steelers organization.
You're also right about one fan base thinking they are superior over another.
Fans of perennial losers who claim superiority over rival fans of perennial winners just REEKS of inferiority complex...inferiority complex is also evident when they have to tell themselves that they're "the toughest fans in all of pro sports".
This doesn't absolve fans of winners however.
Fans of winners who claim superiority over rival fans of losers are said to be living vicariously through their team.
For those who don't know what "living vicariously" means...it means in this situation that just because your team is superior, you think you are superior....or because your team is tough, you think you're tough...or because your team is a winner makes you a winner...etc...
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In a sense, he is a fan of the organization and how they run things as are so many across the country.
I AM a fan of the Steelers. Not when they play the Browns, but, because you idiots are all about tradition....................... I am a fan of Noll, Cowher and Bill Nelson.............. all Steelers. THink Bradshaw was the best QB of all time, certainly the best I have seen. How can you hate Swan, Blier, and the list of great HOF players goes on. As I said, for 12 years I relied on the people and institutions of the area to earn my living. Thanks to business in places like CMU, Allegheny General, US Steel Neville Islan, North Hilla Passivant, Pitt, Montifiore, PPG Allison Park, and more, I was able to buy a house, save money and build a nice living for myself.
Now, if some of think that Cleveland people are different, superior, and somehow special, then you are truly children. It is football, man. It isn't as important as family, friends, puppies, or any of a long list of schidt. Football is entertainment, nothing more. Honestly, I wouldn't go see the Steelers OR the Browns live, because I think pro sports today has very little life or humanitarian value.
The reason I never get upset or argue with you idiots calling me a Steeler fan is because there is nothing to argue about. What exactly IS your definition of a fan? I am a fan of Zepplin and Aerosmith....they both compete for airtime and fans. SO, am I a Steeler fan? Fukck yeah, sure. I am a Browns fan as well. The two are not mutually excplusive. Only in your pea brains is there some honor to either.
As SH pointed out, I AM a fan of how they operate their organization. So what is the big deal here? Oooooooh Ghoolie is a Steeler fan.... WTF? WHo even cares about this childish schidt?
I AM a fan of the Steelers. Not when they play the Browns, but, because you idiots are all about tradition....................... I am a fan of Noll, Cowher and Bill Nelson.............. all Steelers. THink Bradshaw was the best QB of all time, certainly the best I have seen. How can you hate Swan, Blier, and the list of great HOF players goes on. As I said, for 12 years I relied on the people and institutions of the area to earn my living. Thanks to business in places like CMU, Allegheny General, US Steel Neville Islan, North Hilla Passivant, Pitt, Montifiore, PPG Allison Park, and more, I was able to buy a house, save money and build a nice living for myself.
Now, if some of think that Cleveland people are different, superior, and somehow special, then you are truly children. It is football, man. It isn't as important as family, friends, puppies, or any of a long list of schidt. Football is entertainment, nothing more. Honestly, I wouldn't go see the Steelers OR the Browns live, because I think pro sports today has very little life or humanitarian value.
While the people are the same, as you say....there are very few that would put Bradshaw at the top of the list of best QBs ever. Pretty much 90% would have either Brady or Montana there. Another minority would have Otto Graham......who is only not considered now because memories have faded.
As for liking Swann and Blier......Swann was a very artistic receiver....but is a bit overrated when it comes to overall career achievement. Teammate John Stallworth actually had a better career. Its just that Swann had those "miracle catches" in Super Bowls. He was a borderline HOFer who happened to make it because his team won 4 SBs. Gary Collins actually had a better career but does not get a sniff.
Blier? No one I have ever heard said they hate the guy. He is a great story.
The reason I never get upset or argue with you idiots calling me a Steeler fan is because there is nothing to argue about. What exactly IS your definition of a fan? I am a fan of Zepplin and Aerosmith....they both compete for airtime and fans. SO, am I a Steeler fan? Fukck yeah, sure. I am a Browns fan as well. The two are not mutually excplusive. Only in your pea brains is there some honor to either.
As SH pointed out, I AM a fan of how they operate their organization. So what is the big deal here? Oooooooh Ghoolie is a Steeler fan.... WTF? WHo even cares about this childish schidt?
But,....the problem is that you use the success of the Steelers as a bludgeon against Browns fans, and OUR team's difficulties. The Steelers have a good organization...but they have not been any better than the Patriots, the 49ers, the Cowboys. ANY winning organization can be admired and respected....even the Steelers. Everyone has always said that. But being a fan.....goes far far far beyond just having respect for what an organization does.
I mean....how can on not respect the efficiency and might and tenacity and organization of the Nazi War Machine...they were something to behold.....but that does not mean one becomes a fan of that entity just because it went about its business with aplomb. Obviously that is an extreme example....but the point is that one does not have to have emotional ties.....or have loyalty....just because an opponent can be admired for its effectiveness.
I can respect the way China conducts it affairs....both politically and economically......but my ONLY loyalty lies with The United States of America....not some other country.
My ONLY loyalty lies with the Cleveland Browns.....not to the Steelers, Patriots, 49ers, Cowboys....or other successful organization..who are my team Opponents.
It is different with music. As I don't really think that...using your example....that Led Zeppelin and Aerosmith compete for fans and air time. I think they share them in fact. Besides.....The Who and an number of other groups are better than those two anyway.
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