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NFL Exec says THIS scenario where Browns trade out of one isn’t crazy

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  • Remember when Ditka traded the whole Saints draft for Ricky Williams? 

    This is on that level of crazy.

    @boo-fagley said:

    Remember when Ditka traded the whole Saints draft for Ricky Williams? 

    This is on that level of crazy.

    Ricky wearing the wedding dress and Herschel paving the way for Dallas to regain that "America's Team" crap......oh yeah should be an interesting draft!

  • As crazy as this deal sounds....it is indicative of what teams are willing to do to get 'that' QB...the one that will give them a chance to be super bowl contenders / winners.  (wouldn't it be nice for Darnold to sit behind Brady for a year or two). 

    Dorsey, DO NOT be bamboozled like your predecessors.  Pick the best QB at #1 and best non QB at #4 and you're on your way toward winning the draft.  -  DO NOT help the Patriots.  Help YOURSELF!

  • @furious-styles said:

    In that scenario,

    Is the QB you WANT at #4  or the QB THATS LEFT at #4 ? 

    Or does any team grab Chubb, Fitzpatrick, Barkley or other really good players out there?

    If for example the BROWNS take #1 Chubb then at most two quarterbacks might be gone before #4. I'm sure 98.6% of America thinks the BROWNS will pick a quarterback first.

    @mjp28 said:

    Or does any team grab Chubb, Fitzpatrick, Barkley or other really good players out there?

    If for example the BROWNS take #1 Chubb then at most two quarterbacks might be gone before #4. I'm sure 98.6% of America thinks the BROWNS will pick a quarterback first.

    At this point it would be crazy not to take your preferred QB at #1.  Sure, you can give me the argument 100% certain the Jets are taking a QB with their pick.  So it could be either\or at #4. You also have to consider what the Jets gave up to move into the #3 slot. Apparently Dorsey turned the same (or possible better) offer down to stay at #1. That should tell everyone- the #1 pick isn't for sale, short of something beyond insane. MHO, the Patriot's potential offer isn't even close yet. We're not staying at the top to draft Barkley or Chubb, one of which will be guaranteed to be there at #4. 

  • I could see us making that trade for #4 but not for #1. 

  • I could see us making that trade for #4 but not for #1. 

    @jcam222 said:

    I could see us making that trade for #4 but not for #1. 

    But then it wouldn't be nearly worth it to the Patriots. The best they could do is make the trade for number 4 and we guarantee them were not taking the guy they want. Unless that's the guy we want.

    WSS

  • @mjp28 said:

    Or does any team grab Chubb, Fitzpatrick, Barkley or other really good players out there?

    If for example the BROWNS take #1 Chubb then at most two quarterbacks might be gone before #4. I'm sure 98.6% of America thinks the BROWNS will pick a quarterback first.

    At this point it would be crazy not to take your preferred QB at #1.  Sure, you can give me the argument 100% certain the Jets are taking a QB with their pick.  So it could be either\or at #4. You also have to consider what the Jets gave up to move into the #3 slot. Apparently Dorsey turned the same (or possible better) offer down to stay at #1. That should tell everyone- the #1 pick isn't for sale, short of something beyond insane. MHO, the Patriot's potential offer isn't even close yet. We're not staying at the top to draft Barkley or Chubb, one of which will be guaranteed to be there at #4. 

    @hoorta said:

    At this point it would be crazy not to take your preferred QB at #1.  Sure, you can give me the argument 100% certain the Jets are taking a QB with their pick.  So it could be either\or at #4. You also have to consider what the Jets gave up to move into the #3 slot. Apparently Dorsey turned the same (or possible better) offer down to stay at #1. That should tell everyone- the #1 pick isn't for sale, short of something beyond insane. MHO, the Patriot's potential offer isn't even close yet. We're not staying at the top to draft Barkley or Chubb, one of which will be guaranteed to be there at #4. 

    Probably true 1. QB 4. ? probably Chubb

    I've never seen such division on the order of R1 quarterback position.  

  • @jcam222 said:

    I could see us making that trade for #4 but not for #1. 

    But then it wouldn't be nearly worth it to the Patriots. The best they could do is make the trade for number 4 and we guarantee them were not taking the guy they want. Unless that's the guy we want.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    But then it wouldn't be nearly worth it to the Patriots. The best they could do is make the trade for number 4 and we guarantee them were not taking the guy they want. Unless that's the guy we want.

    WSS

    Agree. I'm simply saying if the guy they want is there at #4 charge them out the butt and take all those picks. 

  • Yep. I'd be surprised their number one quarterback wouldn't be 4 picks down the line but who knows. 

    WSS

  • What I don't understand is people on here who think the Browns should just take a QB at #4 when it seems like just about everyone has at least one QB they love and one QB they want nothing to do with...

    Yet the Browns are supposed to look at Rosen, Darnold, Allen and Mayfield and say: "Eh, whichever one is left will be fine..."?

  • What I don't understand is people on here who think the Browns should just take a QB at #4 when it seems like just about everyone has at least one QB they love and one QB they want nothing to do with...

    Yet the Browns are supposed to look at Rosen, Darnold, Allen and Mayfield and say: "Eh, whichever one is left will be fine..."?

    @dutch-oven said:

    What I don't understand is people on here who think the Browns should just take a QB at #4 when it seems like just about everyone has at least one QB they love and one QB they want nothing to do with...

    Yet the Browns are supposed to look at Rosen, Darnold, Allen and Mayfield and say: "Eh, whichever one is left will be fine..."?

    Remember too now is when teams do their best to disguise their true intentions in most cases.

    I wonder if there will be a fury of trades and moves right through day 1......exciting huh.  😕

  • Apparently the Patriots are in love with Sam Darnold. If we were to trade #1 to the Pats:

    Browns get:

    Patriots two first rd picks (23 and 31)

    Patriots two 2nd rd picks (43 and 63)

    Patriots 2019 1st rd pick

    Rob Gronkowski

    Patriots get:

    1st overall pick 

    It would leave us with 3 1sts, 5 2nds, the best TE in the league, and another 1st next year. And we’d still get a top QB at 4.

    Colin Cowherd poses this scenario, and got a text from an Exec saying it’s not that crazy

    @lionofbuddha said:

    Apparently the Patriots are in love with Sam Darnold. If we were to trade #1 to the Pats:

    Browns get:

    Patriots two first rd picks (23 and 31)

    Patriots two 2nd rd picks (43 and 63)

    Patriots 2019 1st rd pick

    Rob Gronkowski

    Patriots get:

    1st overall pick 

    The Browns are set at TE.  I'd pass on Gronk because he's not guaranteed to ever play again. Add this year's third and next year's second and I'd THINK about trading the Browns 1.4

    Perhaps the Pats should consider making that offer to the 49ers for Garoppolo.

  • I'd like to know how many teams have called Dorsey asking if they could have our #1 pick?  And what ballpark they're offerings are in...

    That would give me a pretty good feel for how valued this year's top QB really is.  

    We DO know that the Jets made quite the trade just to be in position to pick one of the top THREE QB's.  They don't even know which one (or two) will be gone.

    .......can you even imagine how deflated all of us QB hungry Browns fans would be if they actually traded the #1 pick away?  And then we go ahead, at #4, and pick the QB that the other three teams threw overboard?  I'd be too embarrassed to go to work.  (luckily, I've scheduled that Friday off)  🙂

  • @dutch-oven said:

    What I don't understand is people on here who think the Browns should just take a QB at #4 when it seems like just about everyone has at least one QB they love and one QB they want nothing to do with...

    Yet the Browns are supposed to look at Rosen, Darnold, Allen and Mayfield and say: "Eh, whichever one is left will be fine..."?

    Remember too now is when teams do their best to disguise their true intentions in most cases.

    I wonder if there will be a fury of trades and moves right through day 1......exciting huh.  😕

    @mjp28 said:

    Remember too now is when teams do their best to disguise their true intentions in most cases.

    I wonder if there will be a fury of trades and moves right through day 1......exciting huh.  😕

    Path to the Draft (NFL Network) guys were all joking about the silly season being in full force with the Browns right now so that none of them knew who the Browns really wanted @ 1 & 4, or whether they might trade down even a little bit with either one.

  • @mjp28 said:

    Remember too now is when teams do their best to disguise their true intentions in most cases.

    I wonder if there will be a fury of trades and moves right through day 1......exciting huh.  😕

    Path to the Draft (NFL Network) guys were all joking about the silly season being in full force with the Browns right now so that none of them knew who the Browns really wanted @ 1 & 4, or whether they might trade down even a little bit with either one.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Path to the Draft (NFL Network) guys were all joking about the silly season being in full force with the Browns right now so that none of them knew who the Browns really wanted @ 1 & 4, or whether they might trade down even a little bit with either one.

    This the best draft ever to just STAY PUT...

    We have the pick of the litter of a QB-rich draft at #1. (we didn't clear the QB room and trade for a one year veteran to "see who's available at 4")

    I assume Giants are going QB or trading out with someone going QB ... so it goes QB1 QB2 QB3 ...

    We get the BPA at #4.

    Who gets the top QB prospect and the top all-around prospect in the same year? We do.

    Zombo

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Path to the Draft (NFL Network) guys were all joking about the silly season being in full force with the Browns right now so that none of them knew who the Browns really wanted @ 1 & 4, or whether they might trade down even a little bit with either one.

    This the best draft ever to just STAY PUT...

    We have the pick of the litter of a QB-rich draft at #1. (we didn't clear the QB room and trade for a one year veteran to "see who's available at 4")

    I assume Giants are going QB or trading out with someone going QB ... so it goes QB1 QB2 QB3 ...

    We get the BPA at #4.

    Who gets the top QB prospect and the top all-around prospect in the same year? We do.

    Zombo

    Zombo said:

    This the best draft ever to just STAY PUT...

    We have the pick of the litter of a QB-rich draft at #1. (we didn't clear the QB room and trade for a one year veteran to "see who's available at 4")

    I assume Ginats are going QB or trading out with someone going QB ... so it goes QB1 QB2 QB3 ...

    We get the BPA at #4.

    Who gets the top QB prospect and the top all-around propsect in the same year? We do.

    Zombo

    I would assume the Giants go with Chubb or Barkley unless we do NOT take the QB Denver wants. Then they might find a customer in Denver without losing out on whomever we don't take in Chubb or Barkley @  #4.

  • Zombo said:

    This the best draft ever to just STAY PUT...

    We have the pick of the litter of a QB-rich draft at #1. (we didn't clear the QB room and trade for a one year veteran to "see who's available at 4")

    I assume Ginats are going QB or trading out with someone going QB ... so it goes QB1 QB2 QB3 ...

    We get the BPA at #4.

    Who gets the top QB prospect and the top all-around propsect in the same year? We do.

    Zombo

    I would assume the Giants go with Chubb or Barkley unless we do NOT take the QB Denver wants. Then they might find a customer in Denver without losing out on whomever we don't take in Chubb or Barkley @  #4.

    @texasag1969 said:

    I would assume the Giants go with Chubb or Barkley unless we do NOT take the QB Denver wants. Then they might find a customer in Denver without losing out on whomever we don't take in Chubb or Barkley @  #4.

    I’ve heard that it’s pretty much set that the Giants will take Darnold at 2 if he’s there

  • @texasag1969 said:

    I would assume the Giants go with Chubb or Barkley unless we do NOT take the QB Denver wants. Then they might find a customer in Denver without losing out on whomever we don't take in Chubb or Barkley @  #4.

    I’ve heard that it’s pretty much set that the Giants will take Darnold at 2 if he’s there

    @lionofbuddha said:

    I’ve heard that it’s pretty much set that the Giants will take Darnold at 2 if he’s there

    And will they be dumb enough to take Allen if we don't hold true to being Browns and take him ourselves? Will they take Rosen if we take Darnold?

  • @lionofbuddha said:

    I’ve heard that it’s pretty much set that the Giants will take Darnold at 2 if he’s there

    And will they be dumb enough to take Allen if we don't hold true to being Browns and take him ourselves? Will they take Rosen if we take Darnold?

    @texasag1969 said:

    And will they be dumb enough to take Allen if we don't hold true to being Browns and take him ourselves? Will they take Rosen if we take Darnold?

    Just please NO to the rumors the Browns are seriously considering Allen at #1. I can live with any of the other three. Taking that Josh at #1 would immediately kill any confidence I have in Dorsey.

    I'll agree with the Bill's fans video rating Allen as a second round prospect. 

  • @texasag1969 said:

    And will they be dumb enough to take Allen if we don't hold true to being Browns and take him ourselves? Will they take Rosen if we take Darnold?

    Just please NO to the rumors the Browns are seriously considering Allen at #1. I can live with any of the other three. Taking that Josh at #1 would immediately kill any confidence I have in Dorsey.

    I'll agree with the Bill's fans video rating Allen as a second round prospect. 

    @hoorta said:

    Just please NO to the rumors the Browns are seriously considering Allen at #1. I can live with any of the other three. Taking that Josh at #1 would immediately kill any confidence I have in Dorsey.

    100000x this

  • @texasag1969 said:

    And will they be dumb enough to take Allen if we don't hold true to being Browns and take him ourselves? Will they take Rosen if we take Darnold?

    Just please NO to the rumors the Browns are seriously considering Allen at #1. I can live with any of the other three. Taking that Josh at #1 would immediately kill any confidence I have in Dorsey.

    I'll agree with the Bill's fans video rating Allen as a second round prospect. 

    @hoorta said:

    Just please NO to the rumors the Browns are seriously considering Allen at #1. I can live with any of the other three. Taking that Josh at #1 would immediately kill any confidence I have in Dorsey.

    I'll agree with the Bill's fans video rating Allen as a second round prospect. 

    Well, there’s a lot of smoke we’re taking Allen. And if you read between the lines, it’s looking pretty clear.

    While Darnold is still working out with other teams, Josh Allen was just hanging out at the Masters. If the Browns wanted Darnold, do you think they’d let him workout with other teams and risk injury? No way, these players are multimillion dollar investments. Even the Jets, who pick at 3, just scheduled a workout with Darnold. They probably didn’t before because they just assumed we were taking Darnold at 1...

    Meanwhile, have we seen Josh Allen visiting and working out for any teams recently? The Browns probably told Allen “We’re taking you at 1, no more workouts. Just relax until the draft”