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  • mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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    Five BIG TEN in the top 20, sounds a lot like last year.

  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
    #3

    Big Ten alumni bases have a lot of money to bet

  • W wargograw wrote on last edited by
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    Texas. Lol. Every. Single. Year. 

  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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    And so does Texas

  • Big Ten alumni bases have a lot of money to bet

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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    @mld-woody said:

    Big Ten alumni bases have a lot of money to bet

    Traditionally over the decades BIG TEN teams have always been desirable bowl game teams because the fan base traveled well and spent money.

    Particularly in cold weather months when beaches or casinos are involved. 

  • @mld-woody said:

    Big Ten alumni bases have a lot of money to bet

    Traditionally over the decades BIG TEN teams have always been desirable bowl game teams because the fan base traveled well and spent money.

    Particularly in cold weather months when beaches or casinos are involved. 

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by The Gipper
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    @mjp28 said:

    Traditionally over the decades BIG TEN teams have always been desirable bowl game teams because the fan base traveled well and spent money.

    Particularly in cold weather months when beaches or casinos are involved. 

    And it has been surmised that that is one reason that they have not had as much success as they potentially should:   A. they come from cold weather to warm weather and become distracted  B.  Also....they are always "on the road" in those games.  Bowl games are held in the states of the Pac 12 or SEC...their home territory.  Some minor bowl games may now be played in northern cities with domes....but most are still held in SEC/Pac 12 territory.

  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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    Point A is idiotic

    Point B is very valid.

  • Point A is idiotic

    Point B is very valid.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    @mld-woody said:

    Point A is idiotic

    Point B is very valid.

    Point A  perhaps should be idiotic....but it is nevertheless a fact.   If guys come from the north and the cold and go to the south and the warm, and hang around beaches or pools....there can be some distraction to that.

  • @mld-woody said:

    Point A is idiotic

    Point B is very valid.

    Point A  perhaps should be idiotic....but it is nevertheless a fact.   If guys come from the north and the cold and go to the south and the warm, and hang around beaches or pools....there can be some distraction to that.

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by mjp28
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    @the-gipper said:

    Point A  perhaps should be idiotic....but it is nevertheless a fact.   If guys come from the north and the cold and go to the south and the warm, and hang around beaches or pools....there can be some distraction to that.

    Actually historically the BIG TEN always finished before thanksgiving, no conference championship games, did not play freshmen, did not use JuCo players all put them at a disadvantage over other conferences. Football players who sit through thanksgiving, Christmas and maybe even new year can get very sluggish and put on weight.

    All of that has been somewhat  corrected in recent years and it shows. 😉

    .......oh and being visitors does enter into the equation, nobody wants to play in the snow when you can go to Tampa, Miami or Disney World. 

  • @mld-woody said:

    Point A is idiotic

    Point B is very valid.

    Point A  perhaps should be idiotic....but it is nevertheless a fact.   If guys come from the north and the cold and go to the south and the warm, and hang around beaches or pools....there can be some distraction to that.

    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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    @the-gipper said:

    Point A  perhaps should be idiotic....but it is nevertheless a fact.   If guys come from the north and the cold and go to the south and the warm, and hang around beaches or pools....there can be some distraction to that.

    No.... It's not a fact.

    It's not a fact that players from colleges up north get distracted by warm weather when they play down south and that it affects their play

  • @the-gipper said:

    Point A  perhaps should be idiotic....but it is nevertheless a fact.   If guys come from the north and the cold and go to the south and the warm, and hang around beaches or pools....there can be some distraction to that.

    No.... It's not a fact.

    It's not a fact that players from colleges up north get distracted by warm weather when they play down south and that it affects their play

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    @mld-woody said:

    No.... It's not a fact.

    It's not a fact that players from colleges up north get distracted by warm weather when they play down south and that it affects their play

    Yes, it is.  The weather alone is not the distraction.

    I mean....the proof is in the pudding.....when  FMU comes south to play in Columbus they are always distracted by peripheral things.    Like indoor toilets, running water, paved streets, clothing that is not plaid, etc.

  • @mld-woody said:

    No.... It's not a fact.

    It's not a fact that players from colleges up north get distracted by warm weather when they play down south and that it affects their play

    Yes, it is.  The weather alone is not the distraction.

    I mean....the proof is in the pudding.....when  FMU comes south to play in Columbus they are always distracted by peripheral things.    Like indoor toilets, running water, paved streets, clothing that is not plaid, etc.

    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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    @the-gipper said:

    Yes, it is.  The weather alone is not the distraction.

    I mean....the proof is in the pudding.....when  FMU comes south to play in Columbus they are always distracted by peripheral things.    Like indoor toilets, running water, paved streets, clothing that is not plaid, etc.

    http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2009/09/10/biggame.html

    Ohio State hopes so and says it has learned its lesson from big matchups such as the Texas game in 2005, in which cleanup crews found several soiled shorts and a few coolers filled with poop.

    “You either deal with the problem up front, or you deal with it later when it’s ugly,” said Kelley-Snoke.

    If only OSU fans were distracted by indoor toilets, huh?

  • @the-gipper said:

    Point A  perhaps should be idiotic....but it is nevertheless a fact.   If guys come from the north and the cold and go to the south and the warm, and hang around beaches or pools....there can be some distraction to that.

    No.... It's not a fact.

    It's not a fact that players from colleges up north get distracted by warm weather when they play down south and that it affects their play

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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    @mld-woody said:

    No.... It's not a fact.

    It's not a fact that players from colleges up north get distracted by warm weather when they play down south and that it affects their play

    Wrong. They can and DO get distracted big time, why do you think the BIG TEN used to do so poorly in the Rose Bowl games.

    Pac 10 teams were home for another game to win, the B1G guys were there on vacation to go to Disneyland......even with superior teams that were generally the winner of the OHIO STATE/Michigan game which was the winner of the defacto BIG 2 little 8 non playoff B1G conference tournament. 

    Gipper 1 Woody 0. (sorry Woodman, you must of been distracted 😆  .......just kidding pal).

  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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    You're mixing up correlation and causation. Sort of. That's under the assumption that the players are even distracted in any way...

  • You're mixing up correlation and causation. Sort of. That's under the assumption that the players are even distracted in any way...

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    @mld-woody said:

    You're mixing up correlation and causation. Sort of. That's under the assumption that the players are even distracted in any way...

    So....what you are saying is that there were no distractions for Big Ten etc. teams  when they went to bowl games out west or down south.  That they lost all those games JUST because the other team was always better than them. 

  • @mld-woody said:

    You're mixing up correlation and causation. Sort of. That's under the assumption that the players are even distracted in any way...

    So....what you are saying is that there were no distractions for Big Ten etc. teams  when they went to bowl games out west or down south.  That they lost all those games JUST because the other team was always better than them. 

    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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    @the-gipper said:

    So....what you are saying is that there were no distractions for Big Ten etc. teams  when they went to bowl games out west or down south.  That they lost all those games JUST because the other team was always better than them. 

    I don't think you realize what you're trying to argue. Just like someone that poops in coolers...

    You're arguing that B1G teams are distracted in warm weather, and it's a major part of poor performance

    1) If I argue "distractions" aren't a major factor, that doesn't mean there are "no distractions"

    2) if I argue it isn't a major factor, that doesn't mean there are no external factors in poor performance

    "Only dealing in absolutes" Gip is almost asbad as "All I need is anecdotal evidence" Gip.

  • @the-gipper said:

    So....what you are saying is that there were no distractions for Big Ten etc. teams  when they went to bowl games out west or down south.  That they lost all those games JUST because the other team was always better than them. 

    I don't think you realize what you're trying to argue. Just like someone that poops in coolers...

    You're arguing that B1G teams are distracted in warm weather, and it's a major part of poor performance

    1) If I argue "distractions" aren't a major factor, that doesn't mean there are "no distractions"

    2) if I argue it isn't a major factor, that doesn't mean there are no external factors in poor performance

    "Only dealing in absolutes" Gip is almost asbad as "All I need is anecdotal evidence" Gip.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    @mld-woody said:

    I don't think you realize what you're trying to argue. Just like someone that poops in coolers...

    You're arguing that B1G teams are distracted in warm weather, and it's a major part of poor performance

    1) If I argue "distractions" aren't a major factor, that doesn't mean there are "no distractions"

    2) if I argue it isn't a major factor, that doesn't mean there are no external factors in poor performance

    "Only dealing in absolutes" Gip is almost asbad as "All I need is anecdotal evidence" Gip.

    So....you admit that there ARE distractions when Big Ten teams go to play in bowls.....

    ergo....admitting that I am right.

    Discussion over. 

  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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    Lol, this is what I expected from a cooler pooper. 

    You are still having a rough time following basic logic. So I think I'm done.

  • Lol, this is what I expected from a cooler pooper. 

    You are still having a rough time following basic logic. So I think I'm done.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    @mld-woody said:

    Lol, this is what I expected from a cooler pooper. 

    You are still having a rough time following basic logic. So I think I'm done.

    You are done. You lost.   Go crawl back into whatever other disgusting edifice makes you happy.

  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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    Ah cooler poop. You got me