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    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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    Started an ordered list, but stopped. It's just a step too far towards "drafting for need" for my taste. What I will do is list a couple areas where we do not need to focus... and they are S and OL.

    Mission 1 is QB... have to get it right or nothing else will matter.

    Except for the above two areas I am good with BPA across the rest of the positions. But even then should a circumstance arise where the clear BPA is a Safety or OL and the alternatives are not even close, I'd take an OT or S.

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      gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by
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      Positions? I'll keep this clean..the only tight end I want to see is the barmaids 😍 bringing Alcohol for my nerves.. seems crazy, but the browns started with 14 picks this draft. We sit with 9 but only 3 come to us as our original picks 1.1(well earned),2.1 & 6.1..#1)QB has to be our best pick.period. am hoping we can address DE/CB/WR/S/RB/DT ..ummm, guess i can give up 2 picks towards quality or maybe grab a falling LB by giving up 1..   

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        Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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        I did overlook TE...

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          Started an ordered list, but stopped. It's just a step too far towards "drafting for need" for my taste. What I will do is list a couple areas where we do not need to focus... and they are S and OL.

          Mission 1 is QB... have to get it right or nothing else will matter.

          Except for the above two areas I am good with BPA across the rest of the positions. But even then should a circumstance arise where the clear BPA is a Safety or OL and the alternatives are not even close, I'd take an OT or S.

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          @tour2ma said:

          Started an ordered list, but stopped. It's just a step too far towards "drafting for need" for my taste. What I will do is list a couple areas where we do not need to focus... and they are S and OL.

          Mission 1 is QB... have to get it right or nothing else will matter.

          Except for the above two areas I am good with BPA across the rest of the positions. But even then should a circumstance arise where the clear BPA is a Safety or OL and the alternatives are not even close, I'd take an OT or S.

          If Randall goes to FS and Peppers to SS then CB becomes the real need, not S IMO. A lot of good CB's this year so I see no reason not to do it that way.

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            @tour2ma said:

            Started an ordered list, but stopped. It's just a step too far towards "drafting for need" for my taste. What I will do is list a couple areas where we do not need to focus... and they are S and OL.

            Mission 1 is QB... have to get it right or nothing else will matter.

            Except for the above two areas I am good with BPA across the rest of the positions. But even then should a circumstance arise where the clear BPA is a Safety or OL and the alternatives are not even close, I'd take an OT or S.

            If Randall goes to FS and Peppers to SS then CB becomes the real need, not S IMO. A lot of good CB's this year so I see no reason not to do it that way.

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            gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by gumby73
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            then CB becomes the real need, not S IMO. A lot of good CB's this year so I see no reason not to do it that way.

            am not sure we have helped ourself's in size of height at CB? Have we missed on the size of corners compared to the height of the WR's in division(steelqueens)? sure they can vert. jump but at a look our tallest corners is Wilson & Carrie at 6'1 & 6 foot..most of our projected starters 5'11 to 5'9"..who's climbing the ladder with JuJu or AJ? CB's Josh Jackson/Carlton Davis/I.Oliver all stand 6'1"

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              Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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              True, gum, but you know that height is only part of the "measure" of a DB. Arm length and vert are factors as well.

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                True, gum, but you know that height is only part of the "measure" of a DB. Arm length and vert are factors as well.

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                gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by gumby73
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                @tour2ma said:

                 Arm length and vert are factors as well.

                seems like those 2 factors don't come into play as much anymore..sure there a factor.. but if their arm grabbed or pushed off on. without the respect of getting a call, they become a lesser factor with all the free hand fighting anymore. hope they get to finalizing some of these new rules..if they pass the new mugging a WR plan? that won't help   

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                  mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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                  It's kind of strange but once the picked names go up on the board all of the needs/wants/BPA lists get skewed around a bit.

                  Kind of like our FL drafts the big D'OH moment right before your pick is up.

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                    ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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                    Other than QB, I don't think we should draft to cover positions.

                    It will work out early on that we can draft good players and still cover some positions.

                    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                      Other than QB, I don't think we should draft to cover positions.

                      It will work out early on that we can draft good players and still cover some positions.

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                      The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                      @ballpeen said:

                      Other than QB, I don't think we should draft to cover positions.

                      It will work out early on that we can draft good players and still cover some positions.

                      It is one of the reasons that Chubb is still a potential candidate.  One could say that the Browns have the DE position covered....and that they should go elsewhere.....but getting another superior talent at a position that may already be considered a strength can be considered a way to make that particular unit totally dominant. 

                      One thing the Browns could use is complete dominance at one unit,  be it RB, WR, OL, DL, LBs, DBs.   

                      I guess a similar argument could be made for taking Barkley.   (though I joke about him being a cheerleader whose best skills are with pom poms...that is just to get the goat of the Barkley Drool Crew).   If he is the talent people think he is...and you join him with Duke and Hyde....then you should, by all rights, have a totally dominant run game/pass catching out of the backfield game.   The difference is that with DE/DL...you can have all your "stars"  have impact on the same play potentially...where on the offense, only one guy gets to carry/catch the ball on a play.  It is never bad to be overloaded with weaponry....but it is a fact that only one guy has the ball at a time. ...as opposed to defense. 

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                        gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by gumby73
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                        https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2018/4/21/17266424/tracking-the-cleveland-browns-2018-nfl-draft-interests  Team Visits have ended?  EDIT- add Mo Hurst to this link as priviate visit..(clearly the link guy must be a buckeye homer😉)

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                          I think they should prioritize in this order, based on need and strength of the draft class:

                          QB --> S --> CB --> DT --> OT

                          [all are very close after QB]

                          Everything else is BPA/planning for departures next offseason.

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                            MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                            CB is definitely above S after offseason movement.

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                              I know BPA is important but of all the positions we have on the team which ones do we need to cover with the 9 picks ......for me in order 

                              QB

                              OT

                              CB

                              WR

                              DE

                              RB

                              DT

                              ILB

                              S

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                              gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by gumby73
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                              @darren15 said:

                              I know BPA is important but of all the positions we have on the team which ones do we need to cover with the 9 picks .. 

                              QB--8 interviewed--5 in Berea

                              OT--5 interviewed--2 in Berea

                              CB--13! interviewed--5 in Berea

                              WR--9 interviewed--2 in Berea

                              DE--2 interviewed--0 in Berea

                              RB--8 interviewed--0 in Berea

                              DT--8 interviewed--5 in Berea

                              ILB--4 LB's interviewed--0 in Berea

                              S--5 interviewed--0 in Berea

                              These^^ are Media reported contacts only.. Will add we met with 2 TE's & 1 FS. Neither in Berea. May mean absolutely nothing with Dorsey dealing the cards. But our positions of need may see the higher numbers, but looking at multiple round targets? At QB, looking like we stayed focused on the top of the crop..(just get it right 🙂.. please)

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                                Am I the only one that thinks Safety is NOT a need this year?

                                We've got two first rounders back there, Randall is under contract for two more years, Peppers for four more.

                                Kindred is a good backup, Nacua and Currie are good special teams types that can fight for the roster ... Why do we need a safety on the first day again?

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                                  Am I the only one that thinks Safety is NOT a need this year?

                                  We've got two first rounders back there, Randall is under contract for two more years, Peppers for four more.

                                  Kindred is a good backup, Nacua and Currie are good special teams types that can fight for the roster ... Why do we need a safety on the first day again?

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                                  The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                  Zombo said:

                                  Am I the only one that thinks Safety is NOT a need this year?

                                  We've got two first rounders back there, Randall is under contract for two more years, Peppers for four more.

                                  Kindred is a good backup, Nacua and Currie are good special teams types that can fight for the roster ... Why do we need a safety on the first day again?

                                  Zombo

                                  I guess I did not realize that Randall was originally a first round draft pick.  And I may tend to agree with you and say the Cornerback is a bigger need....given that I don't think much at all of Jamar Taylor.....who was burned constantly by the likes of A. Brown and AJ Green....and just about everyone else.

                                  We got Terrence Mitchell and  Travis Carrie.....but what are they?   Otherwise we have Boddy-Calhoun....perhaps at best a decent backup.  Yep....Corner is a big need.....ergo.....should we be surprised if the Browns took like Denzel Ward.....or the like?

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                                    Am I the only one that thinks Safety is NOT a need this year?

                                    We've got two first rounders back there, Randall is under contract for two more years, Peppers for four more.

                                    Kindred is a good backup, Nacua and Currie are good special teams types that can fight for the roster ... Why do we need a safety on the first day again?

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                                    Zombo said:

                                    Am I the only one that thinks Safety is NOT a need this year?

                                    We've got two first rounders back there, Randall is under contract for two more years, Peppers for four more.

                                    Kindred is a good backup, Nacua and Currie are good special teams types that can fight for the roster ... Why do we need a safety on the first day again?

                                    Zombo

                                    All correct points, safety isn't a need

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                                      Zombo said:

                                      Am I the only one that thinks Safety is NOT a need this year?

                                      We've got two first rounders back there, Randall is under contract for two more years, Peppers for four more.

                                      Kindred is a good backup, Nacua and Currie are good special teams types that can fight for the roster ... Why do we need a safety on the first day again?

                                      Zombo

                                      I guess I did not realize that Randall was originally a first round draft pick.  And I may tend to agree with you and say the Cornerback is a bigger need....given that I don't think much at all of Jamar Taylor.....who was burned constantly by the likes of A. Brown and AJ Green....and just about everyone else.

                                      We got Terrence Mitchell and  Travis Carrie.....but what are they?   Otherwise we have Boddy-Calhoun....perhaps at best a decent backup.  Yep....Corner is a big need.....ergo.....should we be surprised if the Browns took like Denzel Ward.....or the like?

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                                      @the-gipper said:

                                      I guess I did not realize that Randall was originally a first round draft pick.  And I may tend to agree with you and say the Cornerback is a bigger need....given that I don't think much at all of Jamar Taylor.....who was burned constantly by the likes of A. Brown and AJ Green....and just about everyone else.

                                      We got Terrence Mitchell and  Travis Carrie.....but what are they?   Otherwise we have Boddy-Calhoun....perhaps at best a decent backup.  Yep....Corner is a big need.....ergo.....should we be surprised if the Browns took like Denzel Ward.....or the like?

                                      We've got EJ Gaines as well, one year contract I believe. And last year's pick, Wilson.

                                      I think Carrie is the only one they see as a starter in 2019, so yes, a position of need.

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                                        @the-gipper said:

                                        I guess I did not realize that Randall was originally a first round draft pick.  And I may tend to agree with you and say the Cornerback is a bigger need....given that I don't think much at all of Jamar Taylor.....who was burned constantly by the likes of A. Brown and AJ Green....and just about everyone else.

                                        We got Terrence Mitchell and  Travis Carrie.....but what are they?   Otherwise we have Boddy-Calhoun....perhaps at best a decent backup.  Yep....Corner is a big need.....ergo.....should we be surprised if the Browns took like Denzel Ward.....or the like?

                                        We've got EJ Gaines as well, one year contract I believe. And last year's pick, Wilson.

                                        I think Carrie is the only one they see as a starter in 2019, so yes, a position of need.

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                                        The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                        Zombo said:

                                        We've got EJ Gaines as well, one year contract I believe. And last year's pick, Wilson.

                                        I think Carrie is the only one they see as a starter in 2019, so yes, a position of need.

                                        Zombo

                                        Well.....we also still have the (arguably)  GOAT back there:   Michael Jordan.  Listed at 3rd string on the depth chart at LCB.

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                                          Am I the only one that thinks Safety is NOT a need this year?

                                          We've got two first rounders back there, Randall is under contract for two more years, Peppers for four more.

                                          Kindred is a good backup, Nacua and Currie are good special teams types that can fight for the roster ... Why do we need a safety on the first day again?

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                                          Zombo said:

                                          Am I the only one that thinks Safety is NOT a need this year?

                                          Truth is we don't know, but the possibility of being set at Safety, does depress the perceived need.

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