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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    Thanks for the chart... I'll add it to my collection. 😉

    Bottom line here is this depends upon us not being set on a top six position player and believing our guy falls to 12. If we're good with our guy at 12, then it's a win all the way around. But....

    I just can't see the Giants trading out of #2 when they have a chance of getting their QB of the future.

    @tour2ma said:

    Thanks for the chart... I'll add it to my collection. 😉

    Bottom line here is this depends upon us not being set on a top six position player and believing our guy falls to 12. If we're good with our guy at 12, then it's a win all the way around. But....

    I just can't see the Giants trading out of #2 when they have a chance of getting their QB of the future.

    Think I heard on a podcast that Gettleman has never traded down from his position  in the first round as well

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    Thanks for the chart... I'll add it to my collection. 😉

    Bottom line here is this depends upon us not being set on a top six position player and believing our guy falls to 12. If we're good with our guy at 12, then it's a win all the way around. But....

    I just can't see the Giants trading out of #2 when they have a chance of getting their QB of the future.

    @tour2ma said:

    Thanks for the chart... I'll add it to my collection. 😉

    Bottom line here is this depends upon us not being set on a top six position player and believing our guy falls to 12. If we're good with our guy at 12, then it's a win all the way around. But....

    I just can't see the Giants trading out of #2 when they have a chance of getting their QB of the future.

    Well....maybe the guy they want at #12 would be  Ward, or Josh Jackson or Guice or somebody.

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  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @tour2ma said:

    Thanks for the chart... I'll add it to my collection. 😉

    Bottom line here is this depends upon us not being set on a top six position player and believing our guy falls to 12. If we're good with our guy at 12, then it's a win all the way around. But....

    I just can't see the Giants trading out of #2 when they have a chance of getting their QB of the future.

    Well....maybe the guy they want at #12 would be  Ward, or Josh Jackson or Guice or somebody.

    @the-gipper said:

    Well....maybe the guy they want at #12 would be  Ward, or Josh Jackson or Guice or somebody.

    I don’t see the Browns drafting Ward, he doesn’t have the takeaway ability  that Greg Williams craves or at least hasn’t shown it yet. 

    Josh Jackson on the other hand sure does. 

    Dutch OvenD The GipperT 2 Replies

  • Sorry had to change the thread title ....

    Zombo

  • Z Zombo

    Sorry had to change the thread title ....

    Zombo

    Zombo said:

    Sorry had to change the thread title ....

    Zombo

    So where is the evidence it’s a wacky trade that’s not likely to go down? 

    runyon27R Z 2 Replies
  • L LionOfBuddha

    Zombo said:

    Sorry had to change the thread title ....

    Zombo

    So where is the evidence it’s a wacky trade that’s not likely to go down? 

    @lionofbuddha said:

    So where is the evidence it’s a wacky trade that’s not likely to go down? 

    Logic and reason. I mean I give it high marks for creativity but of the 3 teams in this trade, its the Browns that come out on the short end. I would rather have my choice of QB and one of the top players in the draft then #2 and #12 plus some phantom other stuff.

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  • I am looking forward to lauging at how Hue fuhks up yet another draft.

    The Cleveland Browns have the hardest hit players in the NFL
    hoortaH The GipperT 2 Replies
  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @tour2ma said:

    Thanks for the chart... I'll add it to my collection. 😉

    Bottom line here is this depends upon us not being set on a top six position player and believing our guy falls to 12. If we're good with our guy at 12, then it's a win all the way around. But....

    I just can't see the Giants trading out of #2 when they have a chance of getting their QB of the future.

    Well....maybe the guy they want at #12 would be  Ward, or Josh Jackson or Guice or somebody.

    @the-gipper said:

    Well....maybe the guy they want at #12 would be  Ward, or Josh Jackson or Guice or somebody.

    Or three other random players...

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  • runyon27R runyon27

    @lionofbuddha said:

    So where is the evidence it’s a wacky trade that’s not likely to go down? 

    Logic and reason. I mean I give it high marks for creativity but of the 3 teams in this trade, its the Browns that come out on the short end. I would rather have my choice of QB and one of the top players in the draft then #2 and #12 plus some phantom other stuff.

    @runyon27 said:

    Logic and reason. I mean I give it high marks for creativity but of the 3 teams in this trade, its the Browns that come out on the short end. I would rather have my choice of QB and one of the top players in the draft then #2 and #12 plus some phantom other stuff.

    Just because something isn’t simple doesn’t mean it doesn’t have logic and reason. No one knows what the Browns would get out of it exactly, so no one knows if they’d come out on the short end.

    Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks commented on it, logic and reason would tell you it’s more likely to happen than not 

  • L LionOfBuddha

    Zombo said:

    Sorry had to change the thread title ....

    Zombo

    So where is the evidence it’s a wacky trade that’s not likely to go down? 

    @lionofbuddha said:

    So where is the evidence it’s a wacky trade that’s not likely to go down? 

    "Where is the evidence..." Stop right there. And think.

    If trade goes through we will change the title again and make you "poster of the month".

    Zombo

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  • GhoolieG Ghoolie

    I am looking forward to lauging at how Hue fuhks up yet another draft.

    @ghoolie said:

    I am looking forward to lauging at how Hue fuhks up yet another draft.

     Direct quote from Hue, Building the Browns Episode 1- just watched it today. "We have a (draft) process led by you (Dorsey)". Sorry Tom, when it comes to the draft, Dorsey is calling the shots, not Hue. 

     "If there was a consensus (general manager) John (Dorsey) had come to, he would've told me," Jackson said. "That's not the case."  Dorsey isn't one to tip his hand. Really sounds like Hue's the one in charge there.  😆😆😆

    Just keep on a trollin' pal- only in your warped mind does Hue have a major say. Spin it however you want- Dorsey and Wolf have the final say. Period. 

  • L LondonBrown

    @the-gipper said:

    Well....maybe the guy they want at #12 would be  Ward, or Josh Jackson or Guice or somebody.

    I don’t see the Browns drafting Ward, he doesn’t have the takeaway ability  that Greg Williams craves or at least hasn’t shown it yet. 

    Josh Jackson on the other hand sure does. 

    @londonbrown said:

    I don’t see the Browns drafting Ward, he doesn’t have the takeaway ability  that Greg Williams craves or at least hasn’t shown it yet. 

    Josh Jackson on the other hand sure does. 

    Why did the Browns take Peppers last draft then, by that logic?

  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven

    @londonbrown said:

    I don’t see the Browns drafting Ward, he doesn’t have the takeaway ability  that Greg Williams craves or at least hasn’t shown it yet. 

    Josh Jackson on the other hand sure does. 

    Why did the Browns take Peppers last draft then, by that logic?

    @dutch-oven said:

    Why did the Browns take Peppers last draft then.......?

    Because he played goalie in youth soccer.

    It totally befuddled me why we took a guy who liked to play up closer to the LOS, and played him in punt formation all the time.  Of course Dorsey has attacked the secondary vigorously so far.

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    Tour2maT 1 Reply

  •  Gumby's Geeky Math, with no trade value book or flow charts..There are 2 true seniors at the top of this draft..Mayfield 48 Games..Bradley Chubb 40 Games..Mayfield has played with 3 different coaching staffs in 4 years(sound like Cleveland?) Maintaining major Stats, with avegege rosters, but the biggest factor of Winning Games..Barkley is a proven great athlete with 38 games. Chubb or Barkley fit Dorsey's BPA at #4..If we value need  instead? great Ward or Mikhah are both a small reach at #4. If we decide to trade back? All could be off the board. Josh Allen 27 games,1 coach.J.Rosen 30 games with one Jim Mora till fired.S.Darnold 27 games,1 coach,2 full seasons.(he's 20 drinking cal's root beers, of all places in C-land).Tyrod & the quiet chatter leads me to...= #1 Mayfield.. the draft board position stock leads me to #4 Chubb/Ward/Fitz.  but the sun will rise with 8 Dayes to go.. I'd be shocked if Gettleman or Dorsey trade out till Draft Day..just as.. Da Bears 

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  • Z Zombo

    @lionofbuddha said:

    So where is the evidence it’s a wacky trade that’s not likely to go down? 

    "Where is the evidence..." Stop right there. And think.

    If trade goes through we will change the title again and make you "poster of the month".

    Zombo

    Zombo said:

    "Where is the evidence..." Stop right there. And think.

    If trade goes through we will change the title again and make you "poster of the month".

    Zombo

    Bucky Brooks, Daniel Jeremiah.. guys that have insider information before things happen and a right more times than not

    Z hoortaH 2 Replies
  • L LionOfBuddha

    Zombo said:

    "Where is the evidence..." Stop right there. And think.

    If trade goes through we will change the title again and make you "poster of the month".

    Zombo

    Bucky Brooks, Daniel Jeremiah.. guys that have insider information before things happen and a right more times than not

    @lionofbuddha said:

    Bucky Brooks, Daniel Jeremiah.. guys that have insider information before things happen and a right more times than not

    Don't worry, the next time someone posts a trade rumor thread they will get merged together and it won't say "wacky" anymore.

    Z

  • L LionOfBuddha

    Zombo said:

    "Where is the evidence..." Stop right there. And think.

    If trade goes through we will change the title again and make you "poster of the month".

    Zombo

    Bucky Brooks, Daniel Jeremiah.. guys that have insider information before things happen and a right more times than not

    @lionofbuddha said:

    Bucky Brooks, Daniel Jeremiah.. guys that have insider information before things happen and a right more times than not

    If you saw the link to Hue's comments on NFL.com- even Hue isn't sure what Dorsey is currently thinking, so how in the hell would Danny and Bucky know? They're guessing based on Dorsey's track history- especially Bucky. Watching today's Mock Draft Live- there was zero talk about the Browns trading out of #1, this three way trade was probably some bright idea of a Bill's fan dreaming up something on how they can get to #1 overall. Short of the Bills pulling a Ditka\Ricky Williams deal offering the Browns their entire draft and a first and third round in 2019, (Casserly revisited it on NFLN as Tuesday was the anniversary of that trade) I don't think Dorsey will be listening.....  

    Not only would the talking heads have to have some inside sources on the Browns, add the Giants and Bills to the list. As of this week the guys who will be making the picks or trades are on total radio silence, and it's all speculation. Some guy who's a ref who knows someone? 😆

  • Cowherd thinks Pats could offer us both their 1's and both 2's this year and 1 next year for our number 1 and might even throw in Gronk .....deluded

    hoortaH 1 Reply
    😂

  • Been playing around with scenarios for the "3 team trade" and I actually wonder if it's in place as 2 separate trades on draft day, with an understanding that the Bills get their guy at #2.

    *Trade 1: Buffalo sends 1.12, 1.22, 3.1 and a 2019 1st to Giants for #2
    *Trade 2: Giants send 1.12, 1.22 to Cleveland for #4

    Giants get: #4, #65 and a 2019 1st
    Cleveland gets: #12 and #22
    Buffalo gets #2

    In theory, Buffalo gets their guy with assurances that it's not who the Browns take at #1 (Cleveland says hey we are taking X, and Buffalo says great, we want Y, we make this deal contingent on you taking X on draft day). The Giants get to stick in the Top 4 and get the Top non-QB (presumably Barkley or Chubb, but I'm leaning Barkley) ... the Browns get their QB and also get picks at 12 and 22 which puts them in a good position to hit BPA at positions of need (I'm thinking a combination of OT/CB/FS/DL.

    I just put together a mock draft with Browns going Darnold, then taking McGlinchey at 12 and Hurst at 22 ... and would leave their Day 2 picks for depth at LB, CB and even add Michel or Chubb if they want to still add to the RBs.

    hoortaH 1 Reply
  • L LondonBrown

    @the-gipper said:

    Well....maybe the guy they want at #12 would be  Ward, or Josh Jackson or Guice or somebody.

    I don’t see the Browns drafting Ward, he doesn’t have the takeaway ability  that Greg Williams craves or at least hasn’t shown it yet. 

    Josh Jackson on the other hand sure does. 

    @londonbrown said:

    I don’t see the Browns drafting Ward, he doesn’t have the takeaway ability  that Greg Williams craves or at least hasn’t shown it yet. 

    Josh Jackson on the other hand sure does. 

    Well.....not that I have done a lot of research on it,  but Ward is supposed to be the best cover corner in this draft.   Maybe he has not had many int's....but the first order of business for a cornerback is to stop the receiver from catching the ball....which, again, he is supposed to be best at.  Getting int's is great...but just a bonus.

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