New voting age
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Quick look on Pew as of 2017
74% of Millennials approve of gay marriage. 73% of Dems and 70% or Independents. 85% Liberals and 70% Moderates.
Calling that "hard left" seems a little disingenuous. Just sayin...
I don't think all college needs to be free. It is definitely overpriced and a bubble right now. Maybe some state schools or just CC's could offer free Associates or something, to create an academic foundation. It also would be beneficial for students in High School to better understand vocational options. Pertaining to what I'm doing right now, you can make bank as a skilled CNC programmer with some extra computer design skills.
Reading 90% of the threads on here you'd have a hard time believing some others on here understand it isn't exclusive.
I wouldn't make it a straight up IQ test. That misses the point. You're voting on public policy, our government, the economy, etc. Not your ability to find patterns or something.
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Idk how accurate this is, but it provides a pretty cool breakdown if you scroll down
http://verdantlabs.com/politics_of_professions/
Engineering seems pretty even when you expand it out.
Again, I'm used to no one really caring about politics. I don't think any of my friends are active Dems or Reps. And when it comes up, the most common thread is age. Where, to me, common sense stuff like legalizing weed, is agreed upon. I hang with a group that is pretty well educated (and I'm sure someone is gonna jump on that), so maybe that adds to it. Not just saying we should do something because we've always done it. Looking at facts, not other nonsense. But maybe one day I'll be the older person shaking my first at social changes because they're different. I hope not. Either from continued education, a further interconnected world, or just my own personality. Who knows.
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Most people need to understand that the "argument" between the Left and Right is nothing more than a distraction for the people. The people in charge are always going to do what they think is best for them not the other way around. They all go to the same lodges and are in the same groups, They are indeed in bed together so make no mistake about it, None of them will make sure you get the education you need to overthrow them and they all want you to either fear or depend on them.
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Idk how accurate this is, but it provides a pretty cool breakdown if you scroll down
http://verdantlabs.com/politics_of_professions/
Engineering seems pretty even when you expand it out.
Again, I'm used to no one really caring about politics. I don't think any of my friends are active Dems or Reps. And when it comes up, the most common thread is age. Where, to me, common sense stuff like legalizing weed, is agreed upon. I hang with a group that is pretty well educated (and I'm sure someone is gonna jump on that), so maybe that adds to it. Not just saying we should do something because we've always done it. Looking at facts, not other nonsense. But maybe one day I'll be the older person shaking my first at social changes because they're different. I hope not. Either from continued education, a further interconnected world, or just my own personality. Who knows.
Idk how accurate this is, but it provides a pretty cool breakdown if you scroll down
http://verdantlabs.com/politics_of_professions/
Engineering seems pretty even when you expand it out.
Again, I'm used to no one really caring about politics. I don't think any of my friends are active Dems or Reps. And when it comes up, the most common thread is age. Where, to me, common sense stuff like legalizing weed, is agreed upon. I hang with a group that is pretty well educated (and I'm sure someone is gonna jump on that), so maybe that adds to it. Not just saying we should do something because we've always done it. Looking at facts, not other nonsense. But maybe one day I'll be the older person shaking my first at social changes because they're different. I hope not. Either from continued education, a further interconnected world, or just my own personality. Who knows.
That was a great chart Woody thanks. I'm surprised by physician in general and I would have thought engineering would lean a little bit more to the right. But probably politics plays very little role and doing that job. As far as you changing some opinions when you get older? I bet you will. I did. Has pretty far left when I was in high school and college, really hated Nixon. We supported Eugene McCarthy and John Anderson etc etc. I guess as time goes by I became more and more disappointed but the people who I thought were just downtrodden and Ill used were also scumbags. Went to church even went to church camp but even though it was a fairly conservative denomination we all loved her brothers and prayed for sinners if there were sinners to be prayed for. Looking back I think that was more social than anything else, kids and friends who hung out together searching for something to make sense of things that don't make sense.
One point that you made how about not wanting to do something just because we've always done it that way is the flip side of the coin of demanding we change something just for the hell of it.
WSS
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Most people need to understand that the "argument" between the Left and Right is nothing more than a distraction for the people. The people in charge are always going to do what they think is best for them not the other way around. They all go to the same lodges and are in the same groups, They are indeed in bed together so make no mistake about it, None of them will make sure you get the education you need to overthrow them and they all want you to either fear or depend on them.
Most people need to understand that the "argument" between the Left and Right is nothing more than a distraction for the people. The people in charge are always going to do what they think is best for them not the other way around. They all go to the same lodges and are in the same groups, They are indeed in bed together so make no mistake about it, None of them will make sure you get the education you need to overthrow them and they all want you to either fear or depend on them.
Well I don't know about that. We are all free to get all the education we want or need. In the end it doesn't matter and it's not a great conspiracy. Some people fall into the profession of running things and most of us are too lazy, or not interested in offhand politics to bother changing it. In the end what's the difference? People naturally distrust each other and argue and fight. Most of us are just too civilized to beat each other with clubs so we do it with words. But as far as fighting the power structure? To what end? Like if a dog is barking and chasing your car pull over open the door and toss in the Keys.
WSS
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I get what you are saying Steve, But when I say change I mean a change in the system not the same cowpoop with new faces and new people doing the same cowpoop and getting away with what they want while we the people just bend over and take it. How is Hillary NOT IN JAIL? How is 9/11 not being told the truth? The Tower 7? The Vegas shooting? All school shootings but Colimbine have sketchy stories etc. 1 has to really be stupid if they think our Government is not behind most of if not all of the cowpoop
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I get what you are saying Steve, But when I say change I mean a change in the system not the same cowpoop with new faces and new people doing the same cowpoop and getting away with what they want while we the people just bend over and take it. How is Hillary NOT IN JAIL? How is 9/11 not being told the truth? The Tower 7? The Vegas shooting? All school shootings but Colimbine have sketchy stories etc. 1 has to really be stupid if they think our Government is not behind most of if not all of the cowpoop
I get what you are saying Steve, But when I say change I mean a change in the system not the same cowpoop with new faces and new people doing the same cowpoop and getting away with what they want while we the people just bend over and take it. How is Hillary NOT IN JAIL? How is 9/11 not being told the truth? The Tower 7? The Vegas shooting? All school shootings but Colimbine have sketchy stories etc. 1 has to really be stupid if they think our Government is not behind most of if not all of the cowpoop
Oh geez
Starts off alright and then deteriorates
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Can't really get on board with any of these conspiracy theories. We can't get 10 people on a city council to agree on anything let alone millions of people to orchestrate something of that nature.
I was recently talking with a fellow on Facebook who actually believes there's a simple cure for cancer but the pharmaceutical and medical industry are keeping it a secret. ?
As far as education being too expensive seems like a damn good deal to me if you are smart enough to take out a loan for something you need to make a good living. Don't be an idiot and go $25,000 in the hole for an art appreciation degree, or theater for that matter.
I would think the reason that college graduates are more attractive to employers is it they've gone through the crap and learned the stuff and did the work and put in the time to get the degree. Or people who have gotten a degree in something you really need a degree to do . Not only that but anybody with half a brain should be able to get good enough grades in high school to qualify for a loan or a grant. You are in the whole for less than the price of a car. Big deal if you're going to be an engineer.
If you are going to be a barista, save the money.
WSS
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At least 1/4
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911 was no conspiracy. Total cowpoop.
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