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  • For what it's worth, I never give CBSports draft material any credence at all, I probably rely on NFL.com the most because I listen then on Sirius during the day, but there are tons of good sites.

    And, For what it's worth .... We're going QB #1.

    Zombo

  • @the-gipper said:

    Problem is they're really has no clue as to who is the best one. And my pin that Rudolph me in the long run long run prove to be the best is just as viable as any other opinion. Problem is they're really has no clue as to who is the best one. And my opinion that Rudolph me in the long run long run prove to be the best is just as viable as any other opinion

    So we keep going for lower rated (by the experts) qbs just like we have since Couch. 

    @hoorta said:

    So we keep going for lower rated (by the experts) qbs just like we have since Couch. 

    How about this:   do what the Apache/Iriquois did and take 2 QBs.    Get one with #1......get Chubb #4.   And with one of our 3 2d rounders take another

    QB.?

  • Most of you focused on the  second clause of my "solution".......while ignoring the first....more important perhaps part of it:

    What about the idea of picking both Chubb and Barkley with 1 and 4?  (without consideration to whom they may take later at QB). After all, most people put those 2 actually above the QBs....on a pure talent level.

  • @hoorta said:

    So we keep going for lower rated (by the experts) qbs just like we have since Couch. 

    Clearly you haven't seen the bargain QB thread

    @mld-woody said:

    Clearly you haven't seen the bargain QB thread

    Sure I did Woody. Of course, great QBs have been found lower in the draft or FA, like the grocery bagging Kurt Warner or Tony Romo. There are zillions of stats the lower you pick a player (not just a QB) the worse your odds he's going to be a stud. For every 6th round  Tom Brady, there's 20 Spergon Wynn's. 🙂

    I did a little research, first round QBs since 2000. The hit rate is about 8\41 to get a great QB, then every thing in the middle, and around 14\41 busts. That's the reason top QB prospects get drafted high in the first round, and not the sixth. Way better odds. 

  • @orion said:

    He's a big kid QB.  And QB's are rated on a curve.  He could go in round 1 I guess.

    We have the #1 overall pick....in a draft where 4 QB's may go pretty high in round 1.   May I please have the best one in the draft for once?  Please? 

    Teams have been jockeying around to get in position to draft one of the four.  Let's not try and outsmart the league again this year ok?

    LOL, want to bet Gip at least three QBs get picked before Rudolph? 

    Take it easy on CBS guys... it's the first time they've ventured out with their own ranking in years.

    @hoorta said:

    LOL, want to bet Gip at least three QBs get picked before Rudolph? 

    You can safely go to at least 4, and probably to 5.

  • Most of you focused on the  second clause of my "solution".......while ignoring the first....more important perhaps part of it:

    What about the idea of picking both Chubb and Barkley with 1 and 4?  (without consideration to whom they may take later at QB). After all, most people put those 2 actually above the QBs....on a pure talent level.

    @the-gipper said:

    Most of you focused on the  second clause of my "solution".......while ignoring the first....more important perhaps part of it:

    What about the idea of picking both Chubb and Barkley with 1 and 4?  (without consideration to whom they may take later at QB). After all, most people put those 2 actually above the QBs....on a pure talent level.

    Just NO to Barkley. If he's still there in the second round (like Rudolph) ok. We may well take a developmental QB like Benkert in the 4th- 5th round.

  • Take it easy on CBS guys... it's the first time they've ventured out with their own ranking in years.

    @hoorta said:

    LOL, want to bet Gip at least three QBs get picked before Rudolph? 

    You can safely go to at least 4, and probably to 5.

    @tour2ma said:

    Take it easy on CBS guys... it's the first time they've ventured out with their own ranking in years.

    You can safely go to at least 4, and probably to 5.

    So....are you in on the bet? 

  • @tour2ma said:

    Take it easy on CBS guys... it's the first time they've ventured out with their own ranking in years.

    You can safely go to at least 4, and probably to 5.

    So....are you in on the bet? 

    @the-gipper said:

    So....are you in on the bet? 

    That 4 QBs will be taken before Rudolph? Done for $100!

  • @the-gipper said:

    So....are you in on the bet? 

    That 4 QBs will be taken before Rudolph? Done for $100!

    @tour2ma said:

    That 4 QBs will be taken before Rudolph? Done for $100!

    No....Read it properly....the bet is that  Rudolph will be taken in Round One....and its for lunch...or whatever was proposed above.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Most of you focused on the  second clause of my "solution".......while ignoring the first....more important perhaps part of it:

    What about the idea of picking both Chubb and Barkley with 1 and 4?  (without consideration to whom they may take later at QB). After all, most people put those 2 actually above the QBs....on a pure talent level.

    Just NO to Barkley. If he's still there in the second round (like Rudolph) ok. We may well take a developmental QB like Benkert in the 4th- 5th round.

    @hoorta said:

    Just NO to Barkley. If he's still there in the second round (like Rudolph) ok. We may well take a developmental QB like Benkert in the 4th- 5th round.

    You should probably start preparing yourself to hear- "With the first pick of the 2018 NFL Draft- The Cleveland Browns select... Saquon Barkley, Runningback from Penn State!"

    It'll make it easier to swallow if you are at least open to the possibility... as it's pretty likely going to happen.

  • @hoorta said:

    Just NO to Barkley. If he's still there in the second round (like Rudolph) ok. We may well take a developmental QB like Benkert in the 4th- 5th round.

    You should probably start preparing yourself to hear- "With the first pick of the 2018 NFL Draft- The Cleveland Browns select... Saquon Barkley, Runningback from Penn State!"

    It'll make it easier to swallow if you are at least open to the possibility... as it's pretty likely going to happen.

    @poeticg said:

    You should probably start preparing yourself to hear- "With the first pick of the 2018 NFL Draft- The Cleveland Browns select... Saquon Barkley, Runningback from Penn State!"

    It'll make it easier to swallow if you are at least open to the possibility... as it's pretty likely going to happen.

    Zero chance Po, ZERO chance. I'm so confident Barkley's not happening at #1 overall- no bet involved on your part-  I'll give you a pair of tickets to the home opener against the Steelers should it come to pass, so you can drool all over your hero's first NFL game in person. Not kidding. OTOH, if it's pretty likely LOL, you should have no problem putting up the $260 bucks the tickets are worth, but you've already chickened out on all the other bets that have been put out there.... 

    And you had better be ready when we hear Darnold\ Mayfield with the first pick, and totally pass on Saquon. 

  • @hoorta said:

    Just NO to Barkley. If he's still there in the second round (like Rudolph) ok. We may well take a developmental QB like Benkert in the 4th- 5th round.

    You should probably start preparing yourself to hear- "With the first pick of the 2018 NFL Draft- The Cleveland Browns select... Saquon Barkley, Runningback from Penn State!"

    It'll make it easier to swallow if you are at least open to the possibility... as it's pretty likely going to happen.

    @poeticg said:

    You should probably start preparing yourself to hear- "With the first pick of the 2018 NFL Draft- The Cleveland Browns select... Saquon Barkley, Runningback from Penn State!"

    It'll make it easier to swallow if you are at least open to the possibility... as it's pretty likely going to happen.

    Only You have such insane delusions.    You must be singing that to Barky:

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  • @the-gipper said:

    Most of you focused on the  second clause of my "solution".......while ignoring the first....more important perhaps part of it:

    What about the idea of picking both Chubb and Barkley with 1 and 4?  (without consideration to whom they may take later at QB). After all, most people put those 2 actually above the QBs....on a pure talent level.

    Just NO to Barkley. If he's still there in the second round (like Rudolph) ok. We may well take a developmental QB like Benkert in the 4th- 5th round.

    @hoorta said:

    Just NO to Barkley. If he's still there in the second round (like Rudolph) ok. We may well take a developmental QB like Benkert in the 4th- 5th round.

    By the way Larry, did you see my PM.

  • @hoorta said:

    Just NO to Barkley. If he's still there in the second round (like Rudolph) ok. We may well take a developmental QB like Benkert in the 4th- 5th round.

    By the way Larry, did you see my PM.

    @the-gipper said:

    By the way Larry, did you see my PM.

    I did- give me some time to think about it, won't be able to do a "grand tour" though.  Regarding the hotel.  Research says the BBs got a group rate last year at the Holiday Inn- it's literally on the edge of the stadium parking lot. IIRC, it was in the $100 a night range. And for sure, I won't be flying Frontier. The boogers unilaterally changed the flight schedule, and I got screwed out of $300. From non stops- to stopovers in Denver. Pick one- leave @ 5AM Monday morning after the game, or stay overnight in Denver with a 6PM flight. Bite me. Try to get a live person to complain to? Lotsa luck there- I gave up after being on hold 45 minutes+, twice. (They eventually did give me a partial refund, which expired way before I could use it.) 

  • @the-gipper said:

    By the way Larry, did you see my PM.

    I did- give me some time to think about it, won't be able to do a "grand tour" though.  Regarding the hotel.  Research says the BBs got a group rate last year at the Holiday Inn- it's literally on the edge of the stadium parking lot. IIRC, it was in the $100 a night range. And for sure, I won't be flying Frontier. The boogers unilaterally changed the flight schedule, and I got screwed out of $300. From non stops- to stopovers in Denver. Pick one- leave @ 5AM Monday morning after the game, or stay overnight in Denver with a 6PM flight. Bite me. Try to get a live person to complain to? Lotsa luck there- I gave up after being on hold 45 minutes+, twice. (They eventually did give me a partial refund, which expired way before I could use it.) 

    @hoorta said:

    I did- give me some time to think about it, won't be able to do a "grand tour" though.  Regarding the hotel.  Research says the BBs got a group rate last year at the Holiday Inn- it's literally on the edge of the stadium parking lot. IIRC, it was in the $100 a night range. And for sure, I won't be flying Frontier. The boogers unilaterally changed the flight schedule, and I got screwed out of $300. From non stops- to stopovers in Denver. Pick one- leave @ 5AM Monday morning after the game, or stay overnight in Denver with a 6PM flight. Bite me. Try to get a live person to complain to? Lotsa luck there- I gave up after being on hold 45 minutes+, twice. (They eventually did give me a partial refund, which expired way before I could use it.) 

    I had a bad flight with Frontier....not so sure their customer service was so bad. I did not have the issues you did.  Cant remember exactly where I was going.  Out west somewhere. 

    And fair deal otherwise.  I just wanted to know if there was going to be a group going....even if it is  a small group...such that adding a couple or 3 days to my LOU. trip would be worth it by there being somewhat of a gathering. 

  • @hoorta said:

    I did- give me some time to think about it, won't be able to do a "grand tour" though.  Regarding the hotel.  Research says the BBs got a group rate last year at the Holiday Inn- it's literally on the edge of the stadium parking lot. IIRC, it was in the $100 a night range. And for sure, I won't be flying Frontier. The boogers unilaterally changed the flight schedule, and I got screwed out of $300. From non stops- to stopovers in Denver. Pick one- leave @ 5AM Monday morning after the game, or stay overnight in Denver with a 6PM flight. Bite me. Try to get a live person to complain to? Lotsa luck there- I gave up after being on hold 45 minutes+, twice. (They eventually did give me a partial refund, which expired way before I could use it.) 

    I had a bad flight with Frontier....not so sure their customer service was so bad. I did not have the issues you did.  Cant remember exactly where I was going.  Out west somewhere. 

    And fair deal otherwise.  I just wanted to know if there was going to be a group going....even if it is  a small group...such that adding a couple or 3 days to my LOU. trip would be worth it by there being somewhat of a gathering. 

    @the-gipper said:

    I had a bad flight with Frontier....not so sure their customer service was so bad. I did not have the issues you did.  Cant remember exactly where I was going.  Out west somewhere. 

    And fair deal otherwise.  I just wanted to know if there was going to be a group going....even if it is  a small group...such that adding a couple or 3 days to my LOU. trip would be worth it by there being somewhat of a gathering. 

    I think Top Dawg may be going, and Tour will be trying to pry away from the relatives. He'll be at the game for sure.   

  • @hoorta said:

    Just NO to Barkley. If he's still there in the second round (like Rudolph) ok. We may well take a developmental QB like Benkert in the 4th- 5th round.

    You should probably start preparing yourself to hear- "With the first pick of the 2018 NFL Draft- The Cleveland Browns select... Saquon Barkley, Runningback from Penn State!"

    It'll make it easier to swallow if you are at least open to the possibility... as it's pretty likely going to happen.

    @poeticg said:

    You should probably start preparing yourself to hear- "With the first pick of the 2018 NFL Draft- The Cleveland Browns select... Saquon Barkley, Runningback from Penn State!"

    It'll make it easier to swallow if you are at least open to the possibility... as it's pretty likely going to happen.

    The draft needs to get here STAT.

    PoG is now bringing up Barkley and "swallowing". 

  • @poeticg said:

    You should probably start preparing yourself to hear- "With the first pick of the 2018 NFL Draft- The Cleveland Browns select... Saquon Barkley, Runningback from Penn State!"

    It'll make it easier to swallow if you are at least open to the possibility... as it's pretty likely going to happen.

    The draft needs to get here STAT.

    PoG is now bringing up Barkley and "swallowing". 

    @dutch-oven said:

    The draft needs to get here STAT.

    PoG is now bringing up Barkley and "swallowing". 

    So?  Are you saying that he is not keeping things to strictly "mental" masturbation?

  • @dutch-oven said:

    The draft needs to get here STAT.

    PoG is now bringing up Barkley and "swallowing". 

    So?  Are you saying that he is not keeping things to strictly "mental" masturbation?

    @the-gipper said:

    So?  Are you saying that he is not keeping things to strictly "mental" masturbation?

    Not that there is anything wrong with that, of course.