Barkley at #1 Overall

The Gipper

@poeticg said:

I will be disappointed if the Browns fail to capitalize on one of the NFL's soon to be most dangerous weapon, Saquon Barkley- #1.

I will lose all respect for our FO if Barkley is STILL available #4 and they pass on him for another player #4.

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My ideal situation would be Barkley #1 and Mayfield #4. If Barkley wasn't the truth my board would be a lot different.

I don't think they give a hoot about your respect. They will do what they believe is in the best interests of the Browns.

And....if both Barkley and Chubb are there at #4...it is Chubb who is the choice, not otherwise. Passing on Chubb if he is there would be the "respect losing" action.

But....I DO notice that both you and Glommie are of one mind: take Barkley at 1...then the QB at 4.

How does it make you feel that the two of you are in bed together. (literally...figuratively?)

Mike H

I'd say there is a 0.01% chance Barkley is taken No. 1 overall, unless by some strange voodoo, the Browns guaranteed their guy was there at No. 4, and PoG is a member of Dorsey's new staff (God, I hope not).

gumby73

a GOAT may carry a clue on the card.. https://247sports.com/nfl/browns/Bolt/Jim-Brown-to-announce-Browns-second-round-NFL-Draft-pick-117648060

Ghoolie

31 teams would ALL take this kid if they picked #1. The pick is obvious.....let's see what this jackoff Hue Jackson does.................. and make NO MISTAKE.............Jimmy's wife makes the calls. She likes Hue, she likes black causes................. she tells Jimmy what to do.......... she will pass Hue's picks on to her husband. #1? It is whatever Hue Jacson wants.

Westside Steve

Here’s Why Drafting Saquon Barkley Could Be A Mistake

https://search.app.goo.gl/AS1y3

Shared from my Google feed

hoorta

@poeticg said:

I will be disappointed if the Browns fail to capitalize on one of the NFL's soon to be most dangerous weapon, Saquon Barkley- #1.

I will lose all respect for our FO if Barkley is STILL available #4 and they pass on him for another player #4.---------

My ideal situation would be Barkley #1 and Mayfield #4. If Barkley wasn't the truth my board would be a lot different.

With thanks to Westside Steve. Read, this, read again, and again until it sinks into your thick skull. Barkley will not be a savior to the Browns. As the article bluntly points out, there's very little difference in YPC regardless of where a RB was drafted. Also, since 2002 the running back for the winning SB team 10 out of 16 years was drafted (or not at all) in the 4th round or lower. I'll say it again- the GOAT Jim Brown won exactly one Championship- and I can tell you from having seen Jim live a bunch of times- Saquon couldn't hold his jockstrap. Brown was a man among boys. You may think Barkley's the ticket to the Promised Land- but guaranteed John Dorsey doesn't think so. In fact- I'm betting on it- to the tune of $260.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/heres-why-drafting-saquon-barkley-could-be-a-mistake/

PoeticG

That article assumes that Barkley will have to be the "savior" and carry the team by himself. That's what happened to Adrian Peterson and other backs drafted early to talent starved teams...

Cleveland is different from those other teams.

Firstly, Saquon doesn't need to be a savoir, he's just gotta be Saquon. We have Gordon and Landry and Njoku and Taylor around him. It creates a very difficult situation for the defenses that we'll face.

Secondly, as mentioned. The FO sees Tyrod Taylor as their guy, what would make their guy even better? A #1 overall QB or the #1 RB prospect in the last 20 years?

You guys are not thinking clearly. Thank goodness it's almost time to draft for real...

Dutch Oven

@poeticg said:

You guys are not thinking clearly.

You think Kevin Hogan is a franchise QB.

I don't think anyone is worried about your opinion of their thought process.

PoeticG

@dutch-oven said:

You think Kevin Hogan is a franchise QB.

I don't think anyone is worried about your opinion of their thought process.

I said Kevin Hogan could have been. Last year was the year to get a chance to see that. But, you wanted to see Kizer over and over and over. That was the chance to see what he could have been, now both are off the team and Tyrod Taylor is our guy for the foreseeable future.

I got to watch an entire year of shitty QB play from Kizer and now to reward that- I want a legit, clear #1 overall player, mostly safe from being a bust(barring injury). I want the sure fire difference maker. Hyde and Duke are fine complementary players but nobody would compare them to being a playmaker on Antonio Browns' level.

PoeticG

The Browns really need to try and not overcomplicate this draft. Take Saquon Barkley and don't look back. We'll be right back on the clock two picks later and it's there that we can invest a high pick on the QBOTF. Taylor and the rookie QB will benefit greatly from having a player like Barkley to lean on.

Dutch Oven

@poeticg said:

The Browns really need to try and not overcomplicate this draft. Take Saquon Barkley and don't look back. We'll be right back on the clock two picks later and it's there that we can invest a high pick on the QBOTF. Taylor and the rookie QB will benefit greatly from having a player like Barkley to lean on.

But it isn't going to happen.

But hey, maybe he'll still be on the board at #4... then who knows.

If there is a god, the Browns will pass on Barkley again. If this happens, just know that a guy on the other side of Stark County from you is laughing at your expense.

PoeticG

Garrett touches on a few of the things that I've been saying.

We need an offensive weapon.

-And to go back and watch Ogbah and Garrett together out there. Ogbah is a beast and when they get to play together more it's going to be special.

Mike H

https://twitter.com/richeisen/status/989247540137811968

PoeticG

@dutch-oven said:

But it isn't going to happen.

But hey, maybe he'll still be on the board at #4... then who knows.

If there is a god, the Browns will pass on Barkley again. If this happens, just know that a guy on the other side of Stark County from you is laughing at your expense.

There is a God and he's got my back.

MLD Woody

Just shut up

PoeticG

@mld-woody said:

Just shut up

You're about to be included in "Poet's Bitches".

MLD Woody

Hey man, if this forum troll gig is your thing, go for it.

You wouldn't happen to be super liberal, would you? If you are, I really NEED you to start trolling, I mean posting, in the political board. Use your broken troll brain to entertain me.

PoeticG

I'm not trolling anything.

I'm using sound logic in my assessment.

Tyrod Taylor is the "guy" and the Browns have said they are in WIN NOW mode.

Barkley is good enough to go #2 to the Giants, nobody blinks- even though their QB is in his late 30's. But you guys think the Browns HAVE to take a QB #1. How does that help us "win now"?

Orion

@poeticg said:

you guys think the Browns HAVE to take a QB #1. How does that help us "win now"?

It doesn't. But that's just the way it is (usually). The rookie QB has to sit and learn. Especially now, since the college game is so different from the pro game....from a QB's perspective. We played our rookie QB last year. That should never have happened. Except our stupid brain trust let McCown go. He would've been a good fit for our young QB room...but NOOooo. We had to have a rookie and a couple of 2nd year bums as our QB's. The 2nd year bums were so bad that the rookie beat them out. - pathetic -

The QB is far and away the most important player. We are NOT picking a RB #1 and then let the 2 NY teams decide who we can have as our QB. That's just plain dumb.

Dutch Oven

@poeticg said:

You're about to be included in "Poet's Bitches".