The number #1 pick
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Just got your second account added to "Poet's Bitches" Dutch.
Yeah, a guy I've known on the message board mjp and I were on for nearly 15 years is actually my second account.
I'm not Ghoolie, silly.
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Dutch only follows the crowd.
Hence, his disdain for Hogan and his noncommittal attitude towards Barkley or Taylor.
And his latching onto Ronald McDarnold as his top pick. Mary Kay told him so...
Dutch has forgotten more about football than you will ever know............get the Shmuck outa here..........
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Just got your second account added to "Poet's Bitches" Dutch.
I know Dutch from another forum. Ya see, I know he knows his Sheet. You think just cause you got more posts than said poster you are better, know more.........Not so dude. Just because we have not been here as long don't mean we don't know what the hell we are talking about. Sorry that's not how Sheet works........
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Just got your second account added to "Poet's Bitches" Dutch.
I know Dutch from another forum. Ya see, I know he knows his Sheet. You think just cause you got more posts than said poster you are better, know more.........Not so dude. Just because we have not been here as long don't mean we don't know what the hell we are talking about. Sorry that's not how Sheet works........
I know Dutch from another forum. Ya see, I know he knows his Sheet. You think just cause you got more posts than said poster you are better, know more.........Not so dude. Just because we have not been here as long don't mean we don't know what the hell we are talking about. Sorry that's not how Sheet works........
You have no idea about what I know. It's just more words to me. You've said- Darnold and Chubb. Book it. Is it coincidence that is the mainstream media or is that your own determination? I don't know where you guys came from but there are many posters HERE that know what they are talking about... Dutch doesn't seem to be one of them. Careful of the company you keep.
The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain- -
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I know Dutch from another forum. Ya see, I know he knows his Sheet. You think just cause you got more posts than said poster you are better, know more.........Not so dude. Just because we have not been here as long don't mean we don't know what the hell we are talking about. Sorry that's not how Sheet works........
You have no idea about what I know. It's just more words to me. You've said- Darnold and Chubb. Book it. Is it coincidence that is the mainstream media or is that your own determination? I don't know where you guys came from but there are many posters HERE that know what they are talking about... Dutch doesn't seem to be one of them. Careful of the company you keep.
You have no idea about what I know. It's just more words to me. You've said- Darnold and Chubb. Book it. Is it coincidence that is the mainstream media or is that your own determination? I don't know where you guys came from but there are many posters HERE that know what they are talking about... Dutch doesn't seem to be one of them. Careful of the company you keep.
You don't impress me dude. I know you won't give a Sheet, but I been a Browns fan since 1979. 49 years old. Do the math. (And I know that doesn't impress you either, but I don't give a Sheet.) I do my own research for the draft and Darnold and Chubb make the most sense. (Or Darnold and Barkley) Dutch, myself and MJP come from another forum that lasted for 15 years till the owner shut it down. While our post count here (especially mine) may not be impressive, we have each others back and are not gonna take any Sheet from the likes of you. We know our Sheet, even though you might not agree... You want respect for being here so long........... earn it.
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You have no idea about what I know. It's just more words to me. You've said- Darnold and Chubb. Book it. Is it coincidence that is the mainstream media or is that your own determination? I don't know where you guys came from but there are many posters HERE that know what they are talking about... Dutch doesn't seem to be one of them. Careful of the company you keep.
You don't impress me dude. I know you won't give a Sheet, but I been a Browns fan since 1979. 49 years old. Do the math. (And I know that doesn't impress you either, but I don't give a Sheet.) I do my own research for the draft and Darnold and Chubb make the most sense. (Or Darnold and Barkley) Dutch, myself and MJP come from another forum that lasted for 15 years till the owner shut it down. While our post count here (especially mine) may not be impressive, we have each others back and are not gonna take any Sheet from the likes of you. We know our Sheet, even though you might not agree... You want respect for being here so long........... earn it.
You don't impress me dude. I know you won't give a Sheet, but I been a Browns fan since 1979. 49 years old. Do the math. (And I know that doesn't impress you either, but I don't give a Sheet.) I do my own research for the draft and Darnold and Chubb make the most sense. (Or Darnold and Barkley) Dutch, myself and MJP come from another forum that lasted for 15 years till the owner shut it down. While our post count here (especially mine) may not be impressive, we have each others back and are not gonna take any Sheet from the likes of you. We know our Sheet, even though you might not agree... You want respect for being here so long........... earn it.
I've been a Browns Fan since '99. That's 18/19 years - so really, I've paid my dues as well, so I don't care what you think about me. You don't know me and I'm entitled to my own opinion and if you or your boy Dutch has a problem with it- that's your problem, not mine.
The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain- -
You don't impress me dude. I know you won't give a Sheet, but I been a Browns fan since 1979. 49 years old. Do the math. (And I know that doesn't impress you either, but I don't give a Sheet.) I do my own research for the draft and Darnold and Chubb make the most sense. (Or Darnold and Barkley) Dutch, myself and MJP come from another forum that lasted for 15 years till the owner shut it down. While our post count here (especially mine) may not be impressive, we have each others back and are not gonna take any Sheet from the likes of you. We know our Sheet, even though you might not agree... You want respect for being here so long........... earn it.
I've been a Browns Fan since '99. That's 18/19 years - so really, I've paid my dues as well, so I don't care what you think about me. You don't know me and I'm entitled to my own opinion and if you or your boy Dutch has a problem with it- that's your problem, not mine.
I've been a Browns Fan since '99. That's 18/19 years - so really, I've paid my dues as well, so I don't care what you think about me. You don't know me and I'm entitled to my own opinion and if you or your boy Dutch has a problem with it- that's your problem, not mine.
Since '99 wow some grueling times there PoG, hopefully they can right this ship in the next two years or so.
GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND! -
You don't impress me dude. I know you won't give a Sheet, but I been a Browns fan since 1979. 49 years old. Do the math. (And I know that doesn't impress you either, but I don't give a Sheet.) I do my own research for the draft and Darnold and Chubb make the most sense. (Or Darnold and Barkley) Dutch, myself and MJP come from another forum that lasted for 15 years till the owner shut it down. While our post count here (especially mine) may not be impressive, we have each others back and are not gonna take any Sheet from the likes of you. We know our Sheet, even though you might not agree... You want respect for being here so long........... earn it.
I've been a Browns Fan since '99. That's 18/19 years - so really, I've paid my dues as well, so I don't care what you think about me. You don't know me and I'm entitled to my own opinion and if you or your boy Dutch has a problem with it- that's your problem, not mine.
I've been a Browns Fan since '99. That's 18/19 years - so really, I've paid my dues as you have as well, I don't care what you think. I'm entitled to my opinion and if you're boy Dutch has a problem with it- that's on him.
1999, Ok you have seen a lot of pain. I can respect that. See, I remember when we were actually really, really good. Like shoulda won a Superbowl good. (Shmuckin Elway......) Dutch has his opinions, some of which I agree with, some I don't. But don't disrespect his knowledge. While you (or I )may not agree, he and MJP do know what they are talking about. It might be a different perspective due to experience, that does not mean its wrong. Until proven otherwise.
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I've been a Browns Fan since '99. That's 18/19 years - so really, I've paid my dues as well, so I don't care what you think about me. You don't know me and I'm entitled to my own opinion and if you or your boy Dutch has a problem with it- that's your problem, not mine.
Since '99 wow some grueling times there PoG, hopefully they can right this ship in the next two years or so.
Since '99 wow some grueling times there PoG, hopefully they can right this ship in the next two years or so.
This year is the year. I can feel it. This is going to be a special season.
The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain- -
I've been a Browns Fan since '99. That's 18/19 years - so really, I've paid my dues as you have as well, I don't care what you think. I'm entitled to my opinion and if you're boy Dutch has a problem with it- that's on him.
1999, Ok you have seen a lot of pain. I can respect that. See, I remember when we were actually really, really good. Like shoulda won a Superbowl good. (Shmuckin Elway......) Dutch has his opinions, some of which I agree with, some I don't. But don't disrespect his knowledge. While you (or I )may not agree, he and MJP do know what they are talking about. It might be a different perspective due to experience, that does not mean its wrong. Until proven otherwise.
1999, Ok you have seen a lot of pain. I can respect that. See, I remember when we were actually really, really good. Like shoulda won a Superbowl good. (Shmuckin Elway......) Dutch has his opinions, some of which I agree with, some I don't. But don't disrespect his knowledge. While you (or I )may not agree, he and MJP do know what they are talking about. It might be a different perspective due to experience, that does not mean its wrong. Until proven otherwise.
In the process of becoming a fan I did go and learn all about the past. The Drive and the Fumble brought a tear to my eye... so I do get it. I also love Paul Brown- as I would a respected elder relative.
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This year is the year. I can feel it. This is going to be a special season.
Maybe not special in the sense of number of wins. (I think 6-7 wins is reasonable.) But I agree "special" in the sense that we have a front office that knows what the hell they are doing and some talent that will not embarrass the fan base. Just Freaking beat Pittsburg, Cinci and the Ratbirds this year. Next year go for the Division.
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I know Dutch from another forum. Ya see, I know he knows his Sheet. You think just cause you got more posts than said poster you are better, know more.........Not so dude. Just because we have not been here as long don't mean we don't know what the hell we are talking about. Sorry that's not how Sheet works........
You have no idea about what I know. It's just more words to me. You've said- Darnold and Chubb. Book it. Is it coincidence that is the mainstream media or is that your own determination? I don't know where you guys came from but there are many posters HERE that know what they are talking about... Dutch doesn't seem to be one of them. Careful of the company you keep.
You have no idea about what I know. It's just more words to me. You've said- Darnold and Chubb. Book it. Is it coincidence that is the mainstream media or is that your own determination? I don't know where you guys came from but there are many posters HERE that know what they are talking about... Dutch doesn't seem to be one of them. Careful of the company you keep.
You are the biggest joke on this board.
That is saying a lot, considering this board still has Ghoolie and calfox on it.
Almost impressive.
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I've been a Browns Fan since '99. That's 18/19 years - so really, I've paid my dues as you have as well, I don't care what you think. I'm entitled to my opinion and if you're boy Dutch has a problem with it- that's on him.
1999, Ok you have seen a lot of pain. I can respect that. See, I remember when we were actually really, really good. Like shoulda won a Superbowl good. (Shmuckin Elway......) Dutch has his opinions, some of which I agree with, some I don't. But don't disrespect his knowledge. While you (or I )may not agree, he and MJP do know what they are talking about. It might be a different perspective due to experience, that does not mean its wrong. Until proven otherwise.
1999, Ok you have seen a lot of pain. I can respect that. See, I remember when we were actually really, really good. Like shoulda won a Superbowl good. (Shmuckin Elway......) Dutch has his opinions, some of which I agree with, some I don't. But don't disrespect his knowledge. While you (or I )may not agree, he and MJP do know what they are talking about. It might be a different perspective due to experience, that does not mean its wrong. Until proven otherwise.
Well I got to see Jim Brown in his prime, well all 9 seasons were his prime even with 12 and 14 game seasons. The BROWNS won the NFL when I was 13, the INDIANS won the World Series when I was 4, I used to listen since I was about 7 with grandpa, the BUCKEYES were great and our high school was #1 in Ohio.
Yeah I was a spoiled sports nut. Oh and I loved to bet especially on football.
GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND! -
This year is the year. I can feel it. This is going to be a special season.
Maybe not special in the sense of number of wins. (I think 6-7 wins is reasonable.) But I agree "special" in the sense that we have a front office that knows what the hell they are doing and some talent that will not embarrass the fan base. Just Freaking beat Pittsburg, Cinci and the Ratbirds this year. Next year go for the Division.
I feel that.
Maybe not special in the sense of number of wins. (I think 6-7 wins is reasonable.) But I agree "special" in the sense that we have a front office that knows what the hell they are doing and some talent that will not embarrass the fan base. Just Freaking beat Pittsburg, Cinci and the Ratbirds this year. Next year go for the Division.
I also feel that your statement is soooo close to being what the majority of fans in Cleveland feel.
I would say that beating Pit, Cin and Bal is a great start... But if we truly want to be great and turn the corner - we cannot concede ANY losses.
We must be of the mindset that every game we will compete and find a way to win. Until the Team, the FO and the Fans embrace this belief as well - we'll continue to struggle.
I don't see any reason that this year cannot be our year.
Year 3 with Hue, 2nd year with Williams at DC, new offense and some more weapons. This team is not even close to being an 0-16 team- they never should have been in the first place. We could have won some of those games last year. With the combined resolution to win coming from the players that were here last year and the determination to never let that happen again, I've foreseen a huge leap forward this year.
The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain- -
1999, Ok you have seen a lot of pain. I can respect that. See, I remember when we were actually really, really good. Like shoulda won a Superbowl good. (Shmuckin Elway......) Dutch has his opinions, some of which I agree with, some I don't. But don't disrespect his knowledge. While you (or I )may not agree, he and MJP do know what they are talking about. It might be a different perspective due to experience, that does not mean its wrong. Until proven otherwise.
Well I got to see Jim Brown in his prime, well all 9 seasons were his prime even with 12 and 14 game seasons. The BROWNS won the NFL when I was 13, the INDIANS won the World Series when I was 4, I used to listen since I was about 7 with grandpa, the BUCKEYES were great and our high school was #1 in Ohio.
Yeah I was a spoiled sports nut. Oh and I loved to bet especially on football.
Well I got to see Jim Brown in his prime, well all 9 seasons were his prime even with 12 and 14 game seasons. The BROWNS won the NFL when I was 13, the INDIANS won the World Series when I was 4, I used to listen since I was about 7 with grandpa, the BUCKEYES were great and our high school was #1 in Ohio.
Yeah I was a spoiled sports nut. Oh and I loved to bet especially on football.
You have seen a lot of the great times and a lot of misery. Seen it all. That is why even after 40 years of being a Cleveland sports fan I have a great deal of respect for your opinion. Oh I may still think you are full of Sheet sometimes.......but after 15 years on the same message board............I'm allowed...............LOL
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You have no idea about what I know. It's just more words to me. You've said- Darnold and Chubb. Book it. Is it coincidence that is the mainstream media or is that your own determination? I don't know where you guys came from but there are many posters HERE that know what they are talking about... Dutch doesn't seem to be one of them. Careful of the company you keep.
You are the biggest joke on this board.
That is saying a lot, considering this board still has Ghoolie and calfox on it.
Almost impressive.
You are the biggest joke on this board.
That is saying a lot, considering this board still has Ghoolie and calfox on it.
Almost impressive.
No matter how many times you like to say it- it simply does not make it so.
The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain- -
I feel that.
Maybe not special in the sense of number of wins. (I think 6-7 wins is reasonable.) But I agree "special" in the sense that we have a front office that knows what the hell they are doing and some talent that will not embarrass the fan base. Just Freaking beat Pittsburg, Cinci and the Ratbirds this year. Next year go for the Division.
I also feel that your statement is soooo close to being what the majority of fans in Cleveland feel.
I would say that beating Pit, Cin and Bal is a great start... But if we truly want to be great and turn the corner - we cannot concede ANY losses.
We must be of the mindset that every game we will compete and find a way to win. Until the Team, the FO and the Fans embrace this belief as well - we'll continue to struggle.
I don't see any reason that this year cannot be our year.
Year 3 with Hue, 2nd year with Williams at DC, new offense and some more weapons. This team is not even close to being an 0-16 team- they never should have been in the first place. We could have won some of those games last year. With the combined resolution to win coming from the players that were here last year and the determination to never let that happen again, I've foreseen a huge leap forward this year.
I feel that.
I also feel that your statement is soooo close to being what the majority of fans in Cleveland feel.
I would say that beating Pit, Cin and Bal is a great start... But if we truly want to be great and turn the corner - we cannot concede ANY losses.
We must be of the mindset that every game we will compete and find a way to win. Until the Team, the FO and the Fans embrace this belief as well - we'll continue to struggle.
I don't see any reason that this year cannot be our year.
Year 3 with Hue, 2nd year with Williams at DC, new offense and some more weapons. This team is not even close to being an 0-16 team- they never should have been in the first place. We could have won some of those games last year. With the combined resolution to win coming from the players that were here last year and the determination to never let that happen again, I've foreseen a huge leap forward this year.
Few teams go from basement to penthouse in 1 year. Be realistic. (It will cause less pain) If we start by beating our rivals, and getting 6-7 wins, after 1-31.......... that's a freaking monumental accomplishment. Then add some talent, fill some holes next year. Win 10 games in '19. Steps man, gotta walk before you can run...........
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