Revisionist History
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Dont want this to turn into some big rant and even less want to see a profane response.
But it seems as though some people just want to whine about something no matter what. It's quite sad.
1st we get the most infamous poster. To his credit, he has said Barkley was the top player. But that is where the compliments end. 1st- it was said Lamar Jackson was head and shoulders above the QBs. Then he turns around and said he was joking and only saying what the Browns WILL do, and that is getting a Black Tarkenton. At this time he said Baker Mayfield was the hands down top QB.
Now that the 1st round is over and the Browns drafted Baker, and Ravens drafted Lamar, all of a sudden Baker isn't the best QB and Lamar is a good QB again.
All that really says is that in no way would some people be happy.
I had Baker 3rd for Cleveland. I would have had him 2nd for other places.
I think Ward was a good pick, and the rest will just have to wait and see. The Browns tried to trade out of 4, but were asking for too much.
While my pick at 1 would have been Darnold, and 4 Chubb, the Ward pick makes A LOT of sense. No team ALWAYS looks at BPA, but need as well. 2 years ago Cleveland spent a high pick in 2nd to take Ogbah. While he hasn't been a star, he hasn't been terrible. You use the usable assets that you have.
Like I have said many times before, I know a little bit about this, and I would be TERRIBLE at the job. I am a realist and dont need to have a peeing contest and say I'm smarter than you, your dumb, etc. But I would have traded back into 1st for 3 players who fell, Derwin James, Calvin Ridley, and Sony Michel
While I may not like Baker Mayfield, he is now a member of the Cleveland Browns so I hope he does extremely well since I am a Browns fan.
Good night and God Bless
I think Ward was a good pick, and the rest will just have to wait and see. The Browns tried to trade out of 4, but were asking for too much.
What trade rumors were you hearing at #4? I have heard/seen nothing on us trading back rumors.thanks
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What trade rumors were you hearing at #4? I have heard/seen nothing on us trading back rumors.thanks
Heard during draft that Bills tried to trade up with them but the price was too steep. They also said the Bills had a deal in place to trade with Denver that was worked on all day, but when Chubb was there at 5, Denver pulled out to select Chubb
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What trade rumors were you hearing at #4? I have heard/seen nothing on us trading back rumors.thanks
Heard during draft that Bills tried to trade up with them but the price was too steep. They also said the Bills had a deal in place to trade with Denver that was worked on all day, but when Chubb was there at 5, Denver pulled out to select Chubb
Heard during draft that Bills tried to trade up with them but the price was too steep. They also said the Bills had a deal in place to trade with Denver that was worked on all day, but when Chubb was there at 5, Denver pulled out to select Chubb
I heard both of those as well. I wonder what the price was that the Bills thought was too high? Both 12 and 22 I suspect? Which Buff was not willing to do?
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Dont want this to turn into some big rant and even less want to see a profane response.
But it seems as though some people just want to whine about something no matter what. It's quite sad.
1st we get the most infamous poster. To his credit, he has said Barkley was the top player. But that is where the compliments end. 1st- it was said Lamar Jackson was head and shoulders above the QBs. Then he turns around and said he was joking and only saying what the Browns WILL do, and that is getting a Black Tarkenton. At this time he said Baker Mayfield was the hands down top QB.
Now that the 1st round is over and the Browns drafted Baker, and Ravens drafted Lamar, all of a sudden Baker isn't the best QB and Lamar is a good QB again.
All that really says is that in no way would some people be happy.
I had Baker 3rd for Cleveland. I would have had him 2nd for other places.
I think Ward was a good pick, and the rest will just have to wait and see. The Browns tried to trade out of 4, but were asking for too much.
While my pick at 1 would have been Darnold, and 4 Chubb, the Ward pick makes A LOT of sense. No team ALWAYS looks at BPA, but need as well. 2 years ago Cleveland spent a high pick in 2nd to take Ogbah. While he hasn't been a star, he hasn't been terrible. You use the usable assets that you have.
Like I have said many times before, I know a little bit about this, and I would be TERRIBLE at the job. I am a realist and dont need to have a peeing contest and say I'm smarter than you, your dumb, etc. But I would have traded back into 1st for 3 players who fell, Derwin James, Calvin Ridley, and Sony Michel
While I may not like Baker Mayfield, he is now a member of the Cleveland Browns so I hope he does extremely well since I am a Browns fan.
Good night and God Bless
Dont want this to turn into some big rant and even less want to see a profane response.
But it seems as though some people just want to whine about something no matter what. It's quite sad.
1st we get the most infamous poster. To his credit, he has said Barkley was the top player. But that is where the compliments end. 1st- it was said Lamar Jackson was head and shoulders above the QBs. Then he turns around and said he was joking and only saying what the Browns WILL do, and that is getting a Black Tarkenton. At this time he said Baker Mayfield was the hands down top QB.
Now that the 1st round is over and the Browns drafted Baker, and Ravens drafted Lamar, all of a sudden Baker isn't the best QB and Lamar is a good QB again.
All that really says is that in no way would some people be happy.
I had Baker 3rd for Cleveland. I would have had him 2nd for other places.
I think Ward was a good pick, and the rest will just have to wait and see. The Browns tried to trade out of 4, but were asking for too much.
While my pick at 1 would have been Darnold, and 4 Chubb, the Ward pick makes A LOT of sense. No team ALWAYS looks at BPA, but need as well. 2 years ago Cleveland spent a high pick in 2nd to take Ogbah. While he hasn't been a star, he hasn't been terrible. You use the usable assets that you have.
Like I have said many times before, I know a little bit about this, and I would be TERRIBLE at the job. I am a realist and dont need to have a peeing contest and say I'm smarter than you, your dumb, etc. But I would have traded back into 1st for 3 players who fell, Derwin James, Calvin Ridley, and Sony Michel
While I may not like Baker Mayfield, he is now a member of the Cleveland Browns so I hope he does extremely well since I am a Browns fan.
Good night and God Bless
Everything this pos(t)er says is just to annoy and degrade fans of his least favorite team. He may have been a fan at one time, but he isn't anymore. The same thing he's doing with Lamar Jackson, he did with RG3 back in the day.
Mayfield has been the most accurate QB in college football for 2 years. He is a mobile guy IN the pocket and has a pretty good deep ball. I would like to remind everyone here that no one outside of a handful on this board wanted Watson last year. As the season went on everyone suggested we clearly should of drafted him. What great insight, right?
The pos(t)er you speak of will claim in a few years, if things go well, that he had actually suggested Mayfield was good and that we all just misunderstood him. Yes, he is very g@y like that. And just as often, when he suggests something that is stupid, well I'm sure you can figure out what happens next.
“It is impossible to get a man to understand something if his livelihood depends on him not understanding.” -
"Lamar Jackson IS the cream of this year's QB Crop. If the Browns were not picking #1 he would go #2. As it is, The browns are likely to take Rosen, at that point whether by trade or just taking the pick they have, Barkley will go #2. Just as I said Trubisky was the player of the 2017 draft, so too, is Barkley in the 2018 draft. If the Browns pass on Jackson and Barkley, they will again have one of the worst drafts since they wasted a #1 on do-nothing Joe Thomas.
It is hard to predict how the QBs will go, because the Browns, who pick #1, are likely to again make a fukcked up choice that throws the true order of players into a ball of chaos. HOWEVER......................... here is the proper rating of the 2018 QBs
Lamar Jackson
Josh Rosen ( THe Browns will fukck this up and take him first)
Baker Mayfield
Sam Darnold
Then
“They need to take next year's #1, which will be greatly over-valued, make available for trade Myles Garret, Joe Thomas and Corey Colesore. In that concoction,they needto emergewiththe #1, #2 and #s 4or 5.
1 Barkley
2 QB of choice, I like Mayfield
4-5 Calvin Ridley”
Then
“I said all along, I would take Baker.My comments about Lamar Jackson, if you have ever read any of my posts, should standout as obvious, over-the-top parody. Lamar Jackson is Black Tarkenton. He is schidt. He is RG3, He is Cam Newton, Donovan McNabb, Kordell Stewart, Deshone Kizer, and all the other run-first QBs who have flopped. My comment saying the Browns should take him................. was meant as a "yeah, fukc yeah, take another black Tarkenton, by all means, fukck up another draft. I DO want the Browns to take him.............. so I can laugh my fat Ukrainian American butt off at the Browns again.”
I won’t go through what he is saying NOW. I think it proves either he just doesn’t remember the things he says, is just a troll, or just likes contradicting himself.
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"Lamar Jackson IS the cream of this year's QB Crop. If the Browns were not picking #1 he would go #2. As it is, The browns are likely to take Rosen, at that point whether by trade or just taking the pick they have, Barkley will go #2. Just as I said Trubisky was the player of the 2017 draft, so too, is Barkley in the 2018 draft. If the Browns pass on Jackson and Barkley, they will again have one of the worst drafts since they wasted a #1 on do-nothing Joe Thomas.
It is hard to predict how the QBs will go, because the Browns, who pick #1, are likely to again make a fukcked up choice that throws the true order of players into a ball of chaos. HOWEVER......................... here is the proper rating of the 2018 QBs
Lamar Jackson
Josh Rosen ( THe Browns will fukck this up and take him first)
Baker Mayfield
Sam Darnold
Then
“They need to take next year's #1, which will be greatly over-valued, make available for trade Myles Garret, Joe Thomas and Corey Colesore. In that concoction,they needto emergewiththe #1, #2 and #s 4or 5.
1 Barkley
2 QB of choice, I like Mayfield
4-5 Calvin Ridley”
Then
“I said all along, I would take Baker.My comments about Lamar Jackson, if you have ever read any of my posts, should standout as obvious, over-the-top parody. Lamar Jackson is Black Tarkenton. He is schidt. He is RG3, He is Cam Newton, Donovan McNabb, Kordell Stewart, Deshone Kizer, and all the other run-first QBs who have flopped. My comment saying the Browns should take him................. was meant as a "yeah, fukc yeah, take another black Tarkenton, by all means, fukck up another draft. I DO want the Browns to take him.............. so I can laugh my fat Ukrainian American butt off at the Browns again.”
I won’t go through what he is saying NOW. I think it proves either he just doesn’t remember the things he says, is just a troll, or just likes contradicting himself.
"Lamar Jackson IS the cream of this year's QB Crop. If the Browns were not picking #1 he would go #2. As it is, The browns are likely to take Rosen, at that point whether by trade or just taking the pick they have, Barkley will go #2. Just as I said Trubisky was the player of the 2017 draft, so too, is Barkley in the 2018 draft. If the Browns pass on Jackson and Barkley, they will again have one of the worst drafts since they wasted a #1 on do-nothing Joe Thomas.
It is hard to predict how the QBs will go, because the Browns, who pick #1, are likely to again make a fukcked up choice that throws the true order of players into a ball of chaos. HOWEVER......................... here is the proper rating of the 2018 QBs
Lamar Jackson
Josh Rosen ( THe Browns will fukck this up and take him first)
Baker Mayfield
Sam Darnold
Then
“They need to take next year's #1, which will be greatly over-valued, make available for trade Myles Garret, Joe Thomas and Corey Colesore. In that concoction,they needto emergewiththe #1, #2 and #s 4or 5.
1 Barkley
2 QB of choice, I like Mayfield
4-5 Calvin Ridley”
Then
“I said all along, I would take Baker.My comments about Lamar Jackson, if you have ever read any of my posts, should standout as obvious, over-the-top parody. Lamar Jackson is Black Tarkenton. He is schidt. He is RG3, He is Cam Newton, Donovan McNabb, Kordell Stewart, Deshone Kizer, and all the other run-first QBs who have flopped. My comment saying the Browns should take him................. was meant as a "yeah, fukc yeah, take another black Tarkenton, by all means, fukck up another draft. I DO want the Browns to take him.............. so I can laugh my fat Ukrainian American butt off at the Browns again.”
I won’t go through what he is saying NOW. I think it proves either he just doesn’t remember the things he says, is just a troll, or just likes contradicting himself.
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Dont want this to turn into some big rant and even less want to see a profane response.
But it seems as though some people just want to whine about something no matter what. It's quite sad.
1st we get the most infamous poster. To his credit, he has said Barkley was the top player. But that is where the compliments end. 1st- it was said Lamar Jackson was head and shoulders above the QBs. Then he turns around and said he was joking and only saying what the Browns WILL do, and that is getting a Black Tarkenton. At this time he said Baker Mayfield was the hands down top QB.
Now that the 1st round is over and the Browns drafted Baker, and Ravens drafted Lamar, all of a sudden Baker isn't the best QB and Lamar is a good QB again.
All that really says is that in no way would some people be happy.
I had Baker 3rd for Cleveland. I would have had him 2nd for other places.
I think Ward was a good pick, and the rest will just have to wait and see. The Browns tried to trade out of 4, but were asking for too much.
While my pick at 1 would have been Darnold, and 4 Chubb, the Ward pick makes A LOT of sense. No team ALWAYS looks at BPA, but need as well. 2 years ago Cleveland spent a high pick in 2nd to take Ogbah. While he hasn't been a star, he hasn't been terrible. You use the usable assets that you have.
Like I have said many times before, I know a little bit about this, and I would be TERRIBLE at the job. I am a realist and dont need to have a peeing contest and say I'm smarter than you, your dumb, etc. But I would have traded back into 1st for 3 players who fell, Derwin James, Calvin Ridley, and Sony Michel
While I may not like Baker Mayfield, he is now a member of the Cleveland Browns so I hope he does extremely well since I am a Browns fan.
Good night and God Bless
Everything this pos(t)er says is just to annoy and degrade fans of his least favorite team. He may have been a fan at one time, but he isn't anymore. The same thing he's doing with Lamar Jackson, he did with RG3 back in the day.
Mayfield has been the most accurate QB in college football for 2 years. He is a mobile guy IN the pocket and has a pretty good deep ball. I would like to remind everyone here that no one outside of a handful on this board wanted Watson last year. As the season went on everyone suggested we clearly should of drafted him. What great insight, right?
The pos(t)er you speak of will claim in a few years, if things go well, that he had actually suggested Mayfield was good and that we all just misunderstood him. Yes, he is very g@y like that. And just as often, when he suggests something that is stupid, well I'm sure you can figure out what happens next.
Everything this pos(t)er says is just to annoy and degrade fans of his least favorite team. He may have been a fan at one time, but he isn't anymore. The same thing he's doing with Lamar Jackson, he did with RG3 back in the day.
Mayfield has been the most accurate QB in college football for 2 years. He is a mobile guy IN the pocket and has a pretty good deep ball. I would like to remind everyone here that no one outside of a handful on this board wanted Watson last year. As the season went on everyone suggested we clearly should of drafted him. What great insight, right?
The pos(t)er you speak of will claim in a few years, if things go well, that he had actually suggested Mayfield was good and that we all just misunderstood him. Yes, he is very g@y like that. And just as often, when he suggests something that is stupid, well I'm sure you can figure out what happens next.
That is the thing that has ruffled my feathers a few times on here, and maybe it shouldn't, but people having revisionist history. Just like you said with Watson, there were people saying he was trash and then the obvious "we should have drafted him."
But what is even worse, and one of the reasons I brought up the trade rumors, is the ones who said how bad and dumb it was to trade last year. Trades NEVER work, look what the Browns get. Then some of those same people, "well we have an opportunity to get 2 TOP players." Well the Browns had that opportunity because of a TRADE. There was no Barkley, Chubb, Ward, Fitzpatrick discussion if not for a TRADE. But then again, the Browns should NEVER trade.
But the funniest of all is the Brock trade. People have said just how valuable these draft picks are, some say they wouldnt trade that great draft capital for a Pro Bowler, so that 2nd seems pretty valuable, but they want to get mad and say but we paid him 16 million. So that pick is SOOOOOOOOO valuable that you wouldnt trade it for a Pro Bowler, but youre upset because it cost the team with most cap in history 16 million? Yea doesnt make sense.
It is what it is, it just seems like some just want to whine about ANYTHING, just want to say EVERYTHING is bad. I KNEW when I looked last night after Ward pick that there would be those who would be saying he went too high and if the Browns were going to take him then they should have traded down. Same that said Browns shouldnt trade.
You see, maybe I just view things differently. But there are no definites. There should ALWAYS be a case for trading, whether you do it or not. But when you dont get the player you wanted to draft, you cant turn around and say they SHOULD have done something you were so against before that pick. They dont have an issue with not trading, they have an issue of not getting what they want, big difference
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"Lamar Jackson IS the cream of this year's QB Crop. If the Browns were not picking #1 he would go #2. As it is, The browns are likely to take Rosen, at that point whether by trade or just taking the pick they have, Barkley will go #2. Just as I said Trubisky was the player of the 2017 draft, so too, is Barkley in the 2018 draft. If the Browns pass on Jackson and Barkley, they will again have one of the worst drafts since they wasted a #1 on do-nothing Joe Thomas.
It is hard to predict how the QBs will go, because the Browns, who pick #1, are likely to again make a fukcked up choice that throws the true order of players into a ball of chaos. HOWEVER......................... here is the proper rating of the 2018 QBs
Lamar Jackson
Josh Rosen ( THe Browns will fukck this up and take him first)
Baker Mayfield
Sam Darnold
Then
“They need to take next year's #1, which will be greatly over-valued, make available for trade Myles Garret, Joe Thomas and Corey Colesore. In that concoction,they needto emergewiththe #1, #2 and #s 4or 5.
1 Barkley
2 QB of choice, I like Mayfield
4-5 Calvin Ridley”
Then
“I said all along, I would take Baker.My comments about Lamar Jackson, if you have ever read any of my posts, should standout as obvious, over-the-top parody. Lamar Jackson is Black Tarkenton. He is schidt. He is RG3, He is Cam Newton, Donovan McNabb, Kordell Stewart, Deshone Kizer, and all the other run-first QBs who have flopped. My comment saying the Browns should take him................. was meant as a "yeah, fukc yeah, take another black Tarkenton, by all means, fukck up another draft. I DO want the Browns to take him.............. so I can laugh my fat Ukrainian American butt off at the Browns again.”
I won’t go through what he is saying NOW. I think it proves either he just doesn’t remember the things he says, is just a troll, or just likes contradicting himself.
The way he posts, and I do believe he is trolling most of the time, he deserves to be called out. When it is clear that he has said these things it needs to be called out. Because in a week, month, year he will say he was right about everything and he said it first.
So yes he is being fed, but he is getting fed his own ****. I think I have heard it can be quite nutritious
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Everything this pos(t)er says is just to annoy and degrade fans of his least favorite team. He may have been a fan at one time, but he isn't anymore. The same thing he's doing with Lamar Jackson, he did with RG3 back in the day.
Mayfield has been the most accurate QB in college football for 2 years. He is a mobile guy IN the pocket and has a pretty good deep ball. I would like to remind everyone here that no one outside of a handful on this board wanted Watson last year. As the season went on everyone suggested we clearly should of drafted him. What great insight, right?
The pos(t)er you speak of will claim in a few years, if things go well, that he had actually suggested Mayfield was good and that we all just misunderstood him. Yes, he is very g@y like that. And just as often, when he suggests something that is stupid, well I'm sure you can figure out what happens next.
That is the thing that has ruffled my feathers a few times on here, and maybe it shouldn't, but people having revisionist history. Just like you said with Watson, there were people saying he was trash and then the obvious "we should have drafted him."
But what is even worse, and one of the reasons I brought up the trade rumors, is the ones who said how bad and dumb it was to trade last year. Trades NEVER work, look what the Browns get. Then some of those same people, "well we have an opportunity to get 2 TOP players." Well the Browns had that opportunity because of a TRADE. There was no Barkley, Chubb, Ward, Fitzpatrick discussion if not for a TRADE. But then again, the Browns should NEVER trade.
But the funniest of all is the Brock trade. People have said just how valuable these draft picks are, some say they wouldnt trade that great draft capital for a Pro Bowler, so that 2nd seems pretty valuable, but they want to get mad and say but we paid him 16 million. So that pick is SOOOOOOOOO valuable that you wouldnt trade it for a Pro Bowler, but youre upset because it cost the team with most cap in history 16 million? Yea doesnt make sense.
It is what it is, it just seems like some just want to whine about ANYTHING, just want to say EVERYTHING is bad. I KNEW when I looked last night after Ward pick that there would be those who would be saying he went too high and if the Browns were going to take him then they should have traded down. Same that said Browns shouldnt trade.
You see, maybe I just view things differently. But there are no definites. There should ALWAYS be a case for trading, whether you do it or not. But when you dont get the player you wanted to draft, you cant turn around and say they SHOULD have done something you were so against before that pick. They dont have an issue with not trading, they have an issue of not getting what they want, big difference
That is the thing that has ruffled my feathers a few times on here, and maybe it shouldn't, but people having revisionist history. Just like you said with Watson, there were people saying he was trash and then the obvious "we should have drafted him."
But what is even worse, and one of the reasons I brought up the trade rumors, is the ones who said how bad and dumb it was to trade last year. Trades NEVER work, look what the Browns get. Then some of those same people, "well we have an opportunity to get 2 TOP players." Well the Browns had that opportunity because of a TRADE. There was no Barkley, Chubb, Ward, Fitzpatrick discussion if not for a TRADE. But then again, the Browns should NEVER trade.
But the funniest of all is the Brock trade. People have said just how valuable these draft picks are, some say they wouldnt trade that great draft capital for a Pro Bowler, so that 2nd seems pretty valuable, but they want to get mad and say but we paid him 16 million. So that pick is SOOOOOOOOO valuable that you wouldnt trade it for a Pro Bowler, but youre upset because it cost the team with most cap in history 16 million? Yea doesnt make sense.
It is what it is, it just seems like some just want to whine about ANYTHING, just want to say EVERYTHING is bad. I KNEW when I looked last night after Ward pick that there would be those who would be saying he went too high and if the Browns were going to take him then they should have traded down. Same that said Browns shouldnt trade.
You see, maybe I just view things differently. But there are no definites. There should ALWAYS be a case for trading, whether you do it or not. But when you dont get the player you wanted to draft, you cant turn around and say they SHOULD have done something you were so against before that pick. They dont have an issue with not trading, they have an issue of not getting what they want, big difference
I would hate to be these kids' parents on Christmas day.
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I love the ignore feature... but it needs to include when the ignored is quoted.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Heard during draft that Bills tried to trade up with them but the price was too steep. They also said the Bills had a deal in place to trade with Denver that was worked on all day, but when Chubb was there at 5, Denver pulled out to select Chubb
I heard both of those as well. I wonder what the price was that the Bills thought was too high? Both 12 and 22 I suspect? Which Buff was not willing to do?
I heard both of those as well. I wonder what the price was that the Bills thought was too high? Both 12 and 22 I suspect? Which Buff was not willing to do?
Rappaport said the Bills were set on not giving up both those picks
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The way he posts, and I do believe he is trolling most of the time, he deserves to be called out. When it is clear that he has said these things it needs to be called out. Because in a week, month, year he will say he was right about everything and he said it first.
So yes he is being fed, but he is getting fed his own ****. I think I have heard it can be quite nutritious
The way he posts, and I do believe he is trolling most of the time, he deserves to be called out. When it is clear that he has said these things it needs to be called out. Because in a week, month, year he will say he was right about everything and he said it first.
So yes he is being fed, but he is getting fed his own ****. I think I have heard it can be quite nutritious
Yeah, I'm guiltier than most of feeding the troll. But there were a couple things so factually wrong (like Hue is calling the shots in the draft) he needed to be called out on.
FWIW, I was a Mayfield supporter from way back, and though I wanted Chubb, I see the logic of taking Ward. The secondary was a disaster last year.
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I heard both of those as well. I wonder what the price was that the Bills thought was too high? Both 12 and 22 I suspect? Which Buff was not willing to do?
Rappaport said the Bills were set on not giving up both those picks
Rappaport said the Bills were set on not giving up both those picks
Not for the #7, but reports were that both the Bills' 1sts were heading to Denver for the #5 overall. Deal was in place until Chubb fell to them.
So we surely were getting both ones and more, but wanted even more yet. Not hard to think that the "even more" we wanted was to insure we could move back up from #12 to land Ward.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
The way he posts, and I do believe he is trolling most of the time, he deserves to be called out. When it is clear that he has said these things it needs to be called out. Because in a week, month, year he will say he was right about everything and he said it first.
So yes he is being fed, but he is getting fed his own ****. I think I have heard it can be quite nutritious
Yeah, I'm guiltier than most of feeding the troll. But there were a couple things so factually wrong (like Hue is calling the shots in the draft) he needed to be called out on.
FWIW, I was a Mayfield supporter from way back, and though I wanted Chubb, I see the logic of taking Ward. The secondary was a disaster last year.
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Rappaport said the Bills were set on not giving up both those picks
Not for the #7, but reports were that both the Bills' 1sts were heading to Denver for the #5 overall. Deal was in place until Chubb fell to them.
So we surely were getting both ones and more, but wanted even more yet. Not hard to think that the "even more" we wanted was to insure we could move back up from #12 to land Ward.
Not for the #7, but reports were that both the Bills' 1sts were heading to Denver for the #5 overall. Deal was in place until Chubb fell to them.
So we surely were getting both ones and more, but wanted even more yet. Not hard to think that the "even more" we wanted was to insure we could move back up from #12 to land Ward.
Think they may have demanded the Bills #12, 22 AND next year's first rounder?
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Since I already started this thread and it goes along with it:
I have seen all the meaning about Ward over Chubb. I get it he was rated higher, but I just wonder how many people would have been groaning had the Browns taken Chubb that there wasn't a corner, or even more that the Browns wasted another high pick since they got Ogbah replacement?
As for the Guard pick and wondering why. I dont have any inside knowledge, but maybe the thought process is moving one of the Guards to tackle.
Now as for the DE pick, not a fan of it. I would have taken Sam Hubbard or Griffin
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Since I already started this thread and it goes along with it:
I have seen all the meaning about Ward over Chubb. I get it he was rated higher, but I just wonder how many people would have been groaning had the Browns taken Chubb that there wasn't a corner, or even more that the Browns wasted another high pick since they got Ogbah replacement?
As for the Guard pick and wondering why. I dont have any inside knowledge, but maybe the thought process is moving one of the Guards to tackle.
Now as for the DE pick, not a fan of it. I would have taken Sam Hubbard or Griffin
Since I already started this thread and it goes along with it:
I have seen all the meaning about Ward over Chubb. I get it he was rated higher, but I just wonder how many people would have been groaning had the Browns taken Chubb that there wasn't a corner, or even more that the Browns wasted another high pick since they got Ogbah replacement?
As for the Guard pick and wondering why. I dont have any inside knowledge, but maybe the thought process is moving one of the Guards to tackle.
Now as for the DE pick, not a fan of it. I would have taken Sam Hubbard or Griffin
Or just maybe they want him as the RT as they move Coleman to LT?
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Since I already started this thread and it goes along with it:
I have seen all the meaning about Ward over Chubb. I get it he was rated higher, but I just wonder how many people would have been groaning had the Browns taken Chubb that there wasn't a corner, or even more that the Browns wasted another high pick since they got Ogbah replacement?
As for the Guard pick and wondering why. I dont have any inside knowledge, but maybe the thought process is moving one of the Guards to tackle.
Now as for the DE pick, not a fan of it. I would have taken Sam Hubbard or Griffin
Or just maybe they want him as the RT as they move Coleman to LT?
Or just maybe they want him as the RT as they move Coleman to LT?
Might be, just heard some talking about getting a G when they already have 2 good ones. It's about 14 hrs since the pick, no reason to say its terrible right now
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Since I already started this thread and it goes along with it:
I have seen all the meaning about Ward over Chubb. I get it he was rated higher, but I just wonder how many people would have been groaning had the Browns taken Chubb that there wasn't a corner, or even more that the Browns wasted another high pick since they got Ogbah replacement?
As for the Guard pick and wondering why. I dont have any inside knowledge, but maybe the thought process is moving one of the Guards to tackle.
Now as for the DE pick, not a fan of it. I would have taken Sam Hubbard or Griffin
Since I already started this thread and it goes along with it:
- As for the Guard pick and wondering why. I dont have any inside knowledge, but maybe the thought process is moving one of the Guards to tackle.
- Now as for the DE pick, not a fan of it. I would have taken Sam Hubbard or Griffin
- I see competition at Center with a downside of a 5-position backup. Is that worth the spend of 2.01? Not in my book, but we shall see.
- After adding about 10 lb I see Chad Thomas as a rotational 3-tech DT, not a DE. Hubbard and Griffin? Don't think they improved our DE rotation appreciably.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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