Baker Mayfield Thread
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Tour in all sincerity off of the top of your head please list the guys who have been “shutdown” corners each of the past 5 years. And by that I mean one guy being a shutdown corner each year not this guy was in 2015 but not in 2017. I’m also curious as to the teams they played for. So for example
Josh Norman Carolina, Washington
Just to be clear, you want a list of who has been shutdown corners every year for the past 5?
Patrick Peterson
Sherm when he was healthy
Chris Harris
with cases to be made for Talib & Rhodes.
Just to be clear, you want a list of who has been shutdown corners every year for the past 5?
- Patrick Peterson
- Sherm when he was healthy
- Chris Harris
- with cases to be made for Talib & Rhodes.
Pretty much where I'd have gone adding Trumaine Johnson... off the top of my head... although Chris Harris would have escaped me.
One of the issues is that emerging, shutdown CBs tend to move a lot in FA and once in a new situation, a new system surrounded by new teammates, they may not produce at the same level even if they have the same capability.
Also raw stats aren't as revealing as they once were... at least not INTs and PD... as opponents simply go away from the CB studs. But QB ratings when throwing in a CB's area and other new-Gen stats do still show who the studs are.
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After a couple of days to digest Baker being picked #1 overall, and I'm now totally on the Baker Bandwagon. There's a lot to like about the kid and since he's now a Brown, I'm going to focus on all of the good things he brings to the team, and I'll let some of you mope about on the questionable ones he brings.
What got me aboard the BB? It's simple.....
Who am I going to put more trust in at this point in time, all of those kool, self appointed Draft Gurus that have only seen the tip of the iceberg (but like to pretend they've seen the whole thing), or the group of people that have spent well over a thousand man hours on seeing the whole iceberg?
So, it's just that phuckin' simple, and as long as the kid doesn't do anything stupid on - or especially off the field, I'll be the official Captain of the SS BB.................. All Aboard.
After a couple of days to digest Baker being picked #1 overall, and I'm now totally on the Baker Bandwagon. There's a lot to like about the kid and since he's now a Brown, I'm going to focus on all of the good things he brings to the team, and I'll let some of you mope about on the questionable ones he brings.
What got me aboard the BB? It's simple.....
Who am I going to put more trust in at this point in time, all of those kool, self appointed Draft Gurus that have only seen the tip of the iceberg (but like to pretend they've seen the whole thing), or the group of people that have spent well over a thousand man hours on seeing the whole iceberg?
So, it's just that phuckin' simple, and as long as the kid doesn't do anything stupid on - or especially off the field, I'll be the official Captain of the SS BB.................. All Aboard.
Thatta boy D-Bone!
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After a couple of days to digest Baker being picked #1 overall, and I'm now totally on the Baker Bandwagon. There's a lot to like about the kid and since he's now a Brown, I'm going to focus on all of the good things he brings to the team, and I'll let some of you mope about on the questionable ones he brings.
What got me aboard the BB? It's simple.....
Who am I going to put more trust in at this point in time, all of those kool, self appointed Draft Gurus that have only seen the tip of the iceberg (but like to pretend they've seen the whole thing), or the group of people that have spent well over a thousand man hours on seeing the whole iceberg?
So, it's just that phuckin' simple, and as long as the kid doesn't do anything stupid on - or especially off the field, I'll be the official Captain of the SS BB.................. All Aboard.
Seeing the iceberg doesn't mean you avoid it... just ask the Titanic.
Seeing the iceberg doesn't mean you avoid it... just ask the Titanic.
Oh this should be fun, maybe he is the rookie "sooner savior". Bernie v2.0, well sorta.
I just hope the BROWNS are not just rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.
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Lattimore
Norman
The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown -
Hi D Bone.
What nobody got that reference?
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WSS
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He was my second favorite guy in every instance. I figured Sam darnold was the safest but in second place I liked Baker Mayfield.
It seems to me the Josh Rosen was the most ready to step into an NFL offense and my second choice was Baker Mayfield.
I believed that Josh Allen had the physical tools to be a legendary quarterback if you can harness the lightning and again my #2 was Baker Mayfield.
I like the kid I'm on his side.
WSS
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Lattimore
Norman
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"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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I'm with you Steve and D Bone. Let's roll on the Baker train!
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Hopefully, this translates to the NFL.... What sold me on Baker is he's crazy accurate- 70 completion%. I don't what to hear the "yeah, but his receivers were wide open" BS. He was hitting those wide open guys in stride, with zero adjustment to his passes. How many times last year did we see Kizer throw passes behind guys , over their heads or in the dirt? His completion% would have been a lot worse if guys weren't making circus catches the times his passers were 1\2 on target.
* 33-6 in 39 starts
* Second in D-I history in passer efficiency rating (175.4)
* Big 12 all-time record in yards per attempt (9.8),
* 131:30 TD-to-INT ratio, and 21 rushing scores.
* Led nation in QB rating under pressure in 2015 (117.4), 2016 (119.2), and 2017 (111.6).I’m sorry but you’ve got to hear it. Against Kansas, Texas Tech, WVU, OK St, TCU, Baylor he basically stood back in the pocket and waited for guys to get open. He rarely put in into windows or made anticipated throws. To top it all off the team rushed for 220 a game. He was playing a video game. You want to truly evaluate Baker look at the six losses.
I’m sorry but you’ve got to hear it. Against Kansas, Texas Tech, WVU, OK St, TCU, Baylor he basically stood back in the pocket and waited for guys to get open. He rarely put in into windows or made anticipated throws. To top it all off the team rushed for 220 a game. He was playing a video game. You want to truly evaluate Baker look at the six losses.
Evaluating a QB by his losses? Guess that's why we didn't take Darnold after he put up a stinker against Ohio State.
Even the HOF guys have bad games.
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Instead of saving the ship and closing hatches and remaining afloat, they left them all open thus filling the whole boat.
Then why'd the ship go down by the bow?
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
I'm happy D-bone has found something Browns related in which to (once again) have faith.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
I’m sorry but you’ve got to hear it. Against Kansas, Texas Tech, WVU, OK St, TCU, Baylor he basically stood back in the pocket and waited for guys to get open. He rarely put in into windows or made anticipated throws. To top it all off the team rushed for 220 a game. He was playing a video game. You want to truly evaluate Baker look at the six losses.
Evaluating a QB by his losses? Guess that's why we didn't take Darnold after he put up a stinker against Ohio State.
Even the HOF guys have bad games.
Evaluating a QB by his losses? Guess that's why we didn't take Darnold after he put up a stinker against Ohio State.
Even the HOF guys have bad games.
Absolutely but seeing how a player goes when everything is not going his way says a lot. There are many QBs that look great when everything is going their way. The QB of the Browns is going to have some rough sledding.
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Instead of saving the ship and closing hatches and remaining afloat, they left them all open thus filling the whole boat.
Then why'd the ship go down by the bow?
Then why'd the ship go down by the bow?
Shitty cost cutting iron rivets that held the bow plates failed, leading to more then 4 water tight compartments to fill and sink the bow. It was said to be unsinkable because of the supposed water tight compartments, but nothing is perfect.
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Shitty cost cutting iron rivets that held the bow plates failed, leading to more then 4 water tight compartments to fill and sink the bow. It was said to be unsinkable because of the supposed water tight compartments, but nothing is perfect.
So they did close the doors?
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
The Titanic sank because of progressive flooding. Instead of saving the ship and closing hatches and remaining afloat, they left them all open thus filling the whole boat.
Basic DC mate!
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Shitty cost cutting iron rivets that held the bow plates failed, leading to more then 4 water tight compartments to fill and sink the bow. It was said to be unsinkable because of the supposed water tight compartments, but nothing is perfect.
So they did close the doors?
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Baker Mayfield better have all the intangibles his fans say he has and more. Intangibles literally oozing out of every orifice.
Because physically he possesses nothing that warrants a #1 overall pick. Not elite athleticism, not elite size, not an elite arm.
Baker Mayfield better have all the intangibles his fans say he has and more. Intangibles literally oozing out of every orifice.
Because physically he possesses nothing that warrants a #1 overall pick. Not elite athleticism, not elite size, not an elite arm.
He does have an above average arm, elite accuracy and elite football IQ. I believe his intangibles of leadership and drive are elite as well. Time will tell who's right.
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I like this guy. I hope he is the top QB of this bunch and makes us feel what it's like to have a franchise QB for some years... Having a serviceable QB will be already an upgrade.
If we ever get to succeed, yesterday I was watching Band of Brothers for the 5th time and I think we could use "Baker Company" as a nickname.
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I have wanted Baker Mayfield drafted #1 as our QB all along, but even though I love the kid, I don't want to hear Fans screaming for him after Tyrod makes his first mistake as a Brown. Who knows how soon Baker will be ready to take over, but I hope, as Fans & Coaches, we will be patient & not rush him prematurely for the good of the player & our team.
Exciting times ahead.
Mike
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