Baker Mayfield Thread
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can anyone link anything to me about mayfield's alcohol problems? i see one incident, but nothing repeated like JFF had...
I can't find anything that suggests he has a drinking problem.
I can't find anything that suggests he has a drinking problem.
Mayfield doesn’t have a drinking problem, he has a maturity problem.
The aging process usually cures most people of that problem...key word “usually”.
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I can't find anything that suggests he has a drinking problem.
right, me either. It's like people saw a 6'0 QB, latched on to the Manziel comparison and never let go. Mayfield is older, puts in work studying playbooks, demonstrated his knowledge of X's and O's, has brought his team up to higher levels of competition, did not have a single WR he heaved it to and relied on to bail him out time and time again...
i don't think the JFF comparisons are valid. I read about once incident where he evaded arrest. One incident does not make a pattern. As long as he can drag the Browns to some wins, I don't care about one incident in college.
I also do not care about the crotch grab. Right from the start, the other team refused to shake his hand and was jeering at him all game. Can't really blame him for that, plus he actually has the gaming ability to back up his Sockiness. It's not like he's grabbing his crotch after every TD pass every game like JFF with his money sign.
I'm just not seeing Manziel 2.0. I'm willing to have someone enlighten me if they can provide something concrete, not link me to some article blindly comparing Mayfield to Manziel because someone said it once and now everyone is mindlessly parroting it. Don't let facts get in the way of your opinions. Like it or not, Mayfield is on the Browns and I think Dorsey made the right choice at #1 based on Mayfield's stats, his ability to fire his team up, and his willingness to work hard to get what he wants. Mayfield is the QB the Browns need, someone who isn't afraid of a challenge.
right, me either. It's like people saw a 6'0 QB, latched on to the Manziel comparison and never let go. Mayfield is older, puts in work studying playbooks, demonstrated his knowledge of X's and O's, has brought his team up to higher levels of competition, did not have a single WR he heaved it to and relied on to bail him out time and time again...
i don't think the JFF comparisons are valid. I read about once incident where he evaded arrest. One incident does not make a pattern. As long as he can drag the Browns to some wins, I don't care about one incident in college.
I also do not care about the crotch grab. Right from the start, the other team refused to shake his hand and was jeering at him all game. Can't really blame him for that, plus he actually has the gaming ability to back up his Sockiness. It's not like he's grabbing his crotch after every TD pass every game like JFF with his money sign.
I'm just not seeing Manziel 2.0. I'm willing to have someone enlighten me if they can provide something concrete, not link me to some article blindly comparing Mayfield to Manziel because someone said it once and now everyone is mindlessly parroting it. Don't let facts get in the way of your opinions. Like it or not, Mayfield is on the Browns and I think Dorsey made the right choice at #1 based on Mayfield's stats, his ability to fire his team up, and his willingness to work hard to get what he wants. Mayfield is the QB the Browns need, someone who isn't afraid of a challenge.
Size-wise, they are similar. Mayfield appears a little thicker.
On the field, I don't see it really. Manziel was a playground improviser, while Mayfield seems to play within the system. He can extend plays, but it's not his thing. I've said it before, Penn State's Trace McSorley reminds me on the field more of Manziel.
Both are Socky on the field, in fact I think Mayfield plays with more of an edge. When Manziel came into the NFL, opposing defensive players went out of their way to go after him, to jaw with him. I expect the same will happen to Mayfield. Manziel's personality, though, was self-destructive off the field, and he had zero work ethic. Mayfield IMO doesn't have either issue.
Remember when Manziel made his first start, vs Cincinnati? He looked like he had zero idea what was going on, like he was a fan in the stands who got pulled down onto the sidelines and suited up to play QB ten minutes before the coin toss. I don't know how Mayfield's career is going to turn out - and honestly I have my doubts how successful it will be - but I have zero doubt that if he doesn't end up being a good starting QB it won't be because he pissed it away from a lack of trying. I'll definitely give the kid that.
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The people that say he's just another "Johnny" are butt hurt still.. Manziel was a selfish schwanse head. These are the people who play too much Madden, and don't really know the game of football.. I'll bet money they never put on a pair of shoulder pads.. Then felt the excruciating soreness in thier armpits the following day.
No two people are alike ever.. Baker Mayfield is married.. So.. I highly doubt He'll be the new poster boy for TMZ..Like Johnny was...Manziel was a selfish schwanse head. These are the people who play too much Madden...
Hey! He won me a Superbowl in my first season...
... then I traded him for a 1st rounder.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
I don't think they let anybody just go up to the top floors of the justice center unless on jury duty or you work there.
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970. -
I don't think they let anybody just go up to the top floors of the justice center unless on jury duty or you work there.
I don't think they let anybody just go up to the top floors of the justice center unless on jury duty or you work there.
Or you are a criminal.
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WSS
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Can the midget even stay sober long enough to be a savior? Can't wait till he's grabbing his crotch and directing it at other men (again) on the sidelines like some low rent trailer park loser.
Can the midget even stay sober long enough to be a savior? Can't wait till he's grabbing his crotch and directing it at other men (again) on the sidelines like some low rent trailer park loser.
Here's a novel idea, how about if you just root for OUR QB to succeed. Accept what you can't change, he's our guy. Change what you can, either support him or find a new team.
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Can the midget even stay sober long enough to be a savior? Can't wait till he's grabbing his crotch and directing it at other men (again) on the sidelines like some low rent trailer park loser.
Here's a novel idea, how about if you just root for OUR QB to succeed. Accept what you can't change, he's our guy. Change what you can, either support him or find a new team.
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What I liked hearing the most was how "football intelligent" Baker Mayfield was during the draft process, and I especially enjoyed reading that snippet about how Mayfield scored the second highest mark in the history of that football IQ exam. He apparently "wow'd" people on the white board, and he's got a quick release. This means Baker not only KNOWS football, but he has the ability to throw with tremendous accuracy. Oh, for the people knocking him because he's short, you should know he had the least amount of passes knocked down out of the "Big 4" QB prospects (think I heard that on Building the Browns, but I can double check that stat too).
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The one team that was willing to give up their 2019 #1 plus 2018 #1 and maybe another player to move up to #4, was only willing to do so if Baker Mayfield was there for the taking. Dorsey could not take it because he knew who he was taking #1.
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The more we read, there were a lot of teams that wanted Baker Mayfield. Some people act like he should have been a 3rd rounder.
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The more we read, there were a lot of teams that wanted Baker Mayfield. Some people act like he should have been a 3rd rounder.
The more we read, there were a lot of teams that wanted Baker Mayfield. Some people act like he should have been a 3rd rounder.
That goes for the entire 2018 quarterback class, good not great we will just have to wait and see who breaks out as a real NFL quarterback.
The current fleet of aging has created a real supply and demand problem, wait until they start retiring all at once.
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Shmuck Baker Mayfield.
If you don’t love the Browns more than you hate Baker Mayfield then you’re not a true Browns fan
If you don’t love the Browns more than you hate Baker Mayfield then you’re not a true Browns fan
Well....his SN is VikingDawg. I think that may something about where his sentiment's actually lie.
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Gip are we nailing another Brown's QB to the cross?
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I can't find anything that suggests he has a drinking problem.
Mayfield doesn’t have a drinking problem, he has a maturity problem.
The aging process usually cures most people of that problem...key word “usually”.
Mayfield doesn’t have a drinking problem, he has a maturity problem.
The aging process usually cures most people of that problem...key word “usually”.
How can anyone accurately take a kid out of college and project him as a savior on a team that hasn't had real success in decades before he takes a single NFL snap.
1. Manning 2. Leaf twenty years ago ring any bells just for one example, it happens.
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I don't think they let anybody just go up to the top floors of the justice center unless on jury duty or you work there.
I don't think they let anybody just go up to the top floors of the justice center unless on jury duty or you work there.
Or if you are a lawyer...which is why I went up there.
I guess the other option is from the HIlton or the Marriott. But the angle just does not seem right....but maybe it is. I guess the Hilton is like brand new and sits right next to the Justice Center.
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Gip are we nailing another Brown's QB to the cross?
Gip are we nailing another Brown's QB to the cross?
I think we did that with Kizer. Sacrifices must be made.
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Enough of the love him or leave us bullsh!t...
At this point loving Mayfield is NOT a litmus test for loving the Browns...
No more than loving JFF was...
No more than loving Wheezy was...
If folks legitimately think drafting him he was a big mistake, then that's how it will be until there's proof one way or the other.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Gip are we nailing another Brown's QB to the cross?
I think we did that with Kizer. Sacrifices must be made.
I think we did that with Kizer. Sacrifices must be made.
Was he a virgin?
Not fun being thrown into a volcano or a starting NFL quarterback on a bad team with only two years NCAA experience.
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