Mayfield is no Brees
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"Manziel's character head little to do with his downfall" - TacoCabana should be immortalized in our Hall of Bad Posts.
I do agree that Baker is much less athletic than JFF, which is why Baker had to learn how to play QB to the extent he has.
Nonsense....Johnny's character WOULD HAVE prevented him from being good, but character issues aside JM didn't have the requisite nfl skill set anyways.
JM was another undersized qb with an unfavorable release point to boot who had an average arm. He could have been the highest character guy ever and still wouldn't have been shite as an nfl qb, thus it had little to do with his inability to be a successful nfl qb. It had a lot to do with amplifying all the negativity and bad press, but that has nothing to do with my origina statement.
We'll see on Baker....I think the most likely comp is Jeff Garcia. If he turns out to be that I'd be content.
Nonsense....Johnny's character WOULD HAVE prevented him from being good, but character issues aside JM didn't have the requisite nfl skill set anyways.
JM was another undersized qb with an unfavorable release point to boot who had an average arm. He could have been the highest character guy ever and still wouldn't have been shite as an nfl qb, thus it had little to do with his inability to be a successful nfl qb. It had a lot to do with amplifying all the negativity and bad press, but that has nothing to do with my origina statement.
We'll see on Baker....I think the most likely comp is Jeff Garcia. If he turns out to be that I'd be content.
One thing that gets me on Drew Brees he's 39 and signed a two year contract extension, whoa.
He must really love the game he and his family for generations to come certainly don't need the additional money.
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Ok, so you don't like the guy. Ask me if I care what you like.
If Baker was a inch or two taller, the only QB discussion the last few months would have been about who was going after him.
Absolutely correct. Two inches makes all the difference in some minds...and it is understandable why. But in this case it didn't matter. Dorsey made an executive decision.
It ain't the meat, its the motion....that hopefully makes the Brownies want to rock.
Mayfield was clearly the best choice we could make. No doubt we are going to have to structure some things that play to his strengths. That is why we traded for Tyrod Taylor. He and Baker are similar. Looking back, Tyrod was signed knowing we were going to take Baker.
Add in the fact we don't have dimwit Hue calling plays in his vertical O and have Haley who is more flexible in molding the O around the players on the roster, this is going to work out well.
Another excellent point. ANY choice would cause skepticism if Hue had retained the play calling duties. Now, hopefully...plays will be called that are not constantly head scratchers.
And there it is in a nutshell. Hue sucked as a HC/OC. He should have just stuck to HC and trust whomever he got for OC. Glad someone came to their senses whether it was Hue or someone else that made that decision to hire an OC.
Now, hopefully...plays will be called that are not constantly head scratchers.
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"Manziel's character head little to do with his downfall" - TacoCabana should be immortalized in our Hall of Bad Posts.
I do agree that Baker is much less athletic than JFF, which is why Baker had to learn how to play QB to the extent he has.
Nonsense....Johnny's character WOULD HAVE prevented him from being good, but character issues aside JM didn't have the requisite nfl skill set anyways.
JM was another undersized qb with an unfavorable release point to boot who had an average arm. He could have been the highest character guy ever and still wouldn't have been shite as an nfl qb, thus it had little to do with his inability to be a successful nfl qb. It had a lot to do with amplifying all the negativity and bad press, but that has nothing to do with my origina statement.
We'll see on Baker....I think the most likely comp is Jeff Garcia. If he turns out to be that I'd be content.
Nonsense....Johnny's character WOULD HAVE prevented him from being good, but character issues aside JM didn't have the requisite nfl skill set anyways.
We'll see on Baker....I think the most likely comp is Jeff Garcia. If he turns out to be that I'd be content.
Now that's a reasonable take, but it's also in opposition to your earlier one. My bottom line is that JFF's low character fed the poor work ethic which restricted the skill set. The two are inseparable.
Garcia is an interesting comp.
As an aside I'm chuckling at remembering all the "hard worker", "first guy in the building" testimonials shoveled at us by the Manzealot hoard.
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As an aside I'm chuckling at remembering all the "hard worker", "first guy in the building" testimonials shoveled at us by the Manzealot hoard.
Were they all lying....or just misinformed?
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Nonsense....Johnny's character WOULD HAVE prevented him from being good, but character issues aside JM didn't have the requisite nfl skill set anyways.
We'll see on Baker....I think the most likely comp is Jeff Garcia. If he turns out to be that I'd be content.
Now that's a reasonable take, but it's also in opposition to your earlier one. My bottom line is that JFF's low character fed the poor work ethic which restricted the skill set. The two are inseparable.
Garcia is an interesting comp.
As an aside I'm chuckling at remembering all the "hard worker", "first guy in the building" testimonials shoveled at us by the Manzealot hoard.
Garcia is an interesting comp.
it is. Maybe Mayfield sees the field even faster than Garcia did.
I can see Mayfield coaching kids one of these days about quarterbacking like Garcia:
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Garcia is an interesting comp.
Then I can't wait to see a photo of Baker's squeeze....considering who Garcia is married to:
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Garcia is an interesting comp.
Then I can't wait to see a photo of Baker's squeeze....considering who Garcia is married to:
Garcia is an interesting comp.
Then I can't wait to see a photo of Baker's squeeze....considering who Garcia is married to:
Picture won't copy, but here's the link. Just GF now.... https://nypost.com/2018/04/27/how-baker-mayfield-and-girlfriend-celebrated-draft-night/
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Almost looks like that psycho Jodi Arias somewhat.'
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970. -
Almost looks like that psycho Jodi Arias somewhat.'
Nice little perky boobies.
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The fact you are trying to rationalize cheering for dirtbags says more about you than us.
I have never cheered for you.
I have never cheered for you.
You're the trailer trash loser lining up to fellate Drunkard Mayfield and Inmate Callaway, not me. Enjoy swilling cheap beer while you cheer rapists and alcoholics like the typical fat American sports fan.
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Semi-fair comment, but were you even here when we drafted Wheezy? There were few that embraced him pre-draft. There were more than a few who "he's ours now" embraced him. But there were a lot of us who were confident he was the mistake he turned out to be.
I'm sorry, that was vague, it was on the message board mjp, Coyote and I were previously on for years that generally wanted nothing to do with Weeden on Wednesday before the draft, but by Friday morning miraculously "slept on it" and decided it was a shrewd move by the Browns. I see a similar reaction to Mayfield. I'm not expecting people to riot, but just asking for a little consistency.
I'm intrigued by the Baker Mayfield Experiment. He was definitely 3rd on my list, but he's not Josh Allen, so thank dog for small miracles...
I'm sorry, that was vague, it was on the message board mjp, Coyote and I were previously on for years that generally wanted nothing to do with Weeden on Wednesday before the draft, but by Friday morning miraculously "slept on it" and decided it was a shrewd move by the Browns. I see a similar reaction to Mayfield. I'm not expecting people to riot, but just asking for a little consistency.
I'm intrigued by the Baker Mayfield Experiment. He was definitely 3rd on my list, but he's not Josh Allen, so thank dog for small miracles...
which board ?
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I have never cheered for you.
You're the trailer trash loser lining up to fellate Drunkard Mayfield and Inmate Callaway, not me. Enjoy swilling cheap beer while you cheer rapists and alcoholics like the typical fat American sports fan.
You're the trailer trash loser lining up to fellate Drunkard Mayfield and Inmate Callaway, not me. Enjoy swilling cheap beer while you cheer rapists and alcoholics like the typical fat American sports fan.
I am just a fan...that's right. That hopes that the players that my team selected do well. I also hope that they stay clean...and am willing to see that they are given a chance to do so.
So, no, I am not a judgmental, pluperfect prick buggerer who thinks he has a monopoly on righteousness.
And if you don't like the way American sports fans conduct themselves....then go find another sport.
I am sure that the Cricketeers would be glad to have you. That seems like a sport for pious, pompous, tight sphinctered, sanctimonious, pretentious pharisees like you.
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As you continue swilling PBR and counting your welfare checks so shall I continue supporting and cheering for whichever Sport that *I* choose. Save the cult cowpoop about being a blind follower or not following at all.
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Garcia married very well indeed for a gay guy...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
As you continue swilling PBR and counting your welfare checks so shall I continue supporting and cheering for whichever Sport that *I* choose. Save the cult cowpoop about being a blind follower or not following at all.
As you continue swilling PBR and counting your welfare checks so shall I continue supporting and cheering for whichever Sport that *I* choose. Save the cult cowpoop about being a blind follower or not following at all.
You are the one that says he wants blind obeisance to some unattainable standard that you seem to want to impose...on players/fans. A standard you certainly fall far short of yourself. I don't see, based on that...that there is anything or anyone out there for you to root for.
(by the way...they are Social Security checks now...which I worked very hard to earn)
OH WAIT....by the way....maybe there is a guy:
Tim Tebow is playing for the Binghamton team at the Akron Rubber Ducks. So, you should go root for him.
He is a young man with character. Ain't worth spit as either a pro football player or baseball player. But he was good at his level....and so you should stick to your level: only follow holy rollers with minor league talent.
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You're the trailer trash loser lining up to fellate Drunkard Mayfield and Inmate Callaway, not me. Enjoy swilling cheap beer while you cheer rapists and alcoholics like the typical fat American sports fan.
I am just a fan...that's right. That hopes that the players that my team selected do well. I also hope that they stay clean...and am willing to see that they are given a chance to do so.
So, no, I am not a judgmental, pluperfect prick buggerer who thinks he has a monopoly on righteousness.
And if you don't like the way American sports fans conduct themselves....then go find another sport.
I am sure that the Cricketeers would be glad to have you. That seems like a sport for pious, pompous, tight sphinctered, sanctimonious, pretentious pharisees like you.
I am just a fan...that's right. That hopes that the players that my team selected do well. I also hope that they stay clean...and am willing to see that they are given a chance to do so.
So, no, I am not a judgmental, pluperfect prick buggerer who thinks he has a monopoly on righteousness.
And if you don't like the way American sports fans conduct themselves....then go find another sport.
I am sure that the Cricketeers would be glad to have you. That seems like a sport for pious, pompous, tight sphinctered, sanctimonious, pretentious pharisees like you.
Now, now Gip. Don't pick on this little kid. After all, a child's ego is very fragile.
Mike
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As you continue swilling PBR and counting your welfare checks so shall I continue supporting and cheering for whichever Sport that *I* choose. Save the cult cowpoop about being a blind follower or not following at all.
You are the one that says he wants blind obeisance to some unattainable standard that you seem to want to impose...on players/fans. A standard you certainly fall far short of yourself. I don't see, based on that...that there is anything or anyone out there for you to root for.
(by the way...they are Social Security checks now...which I worked very hard to earn)
OH WAIT....by the way....maybe there is a guy:
Tim Tebow is playing for the Binghamton team at the Akron Rubber Ducks. So, you should go root for him.
He is a young man with character. Ain't worth spit as either a pro football player or baseball player. But he was good at his level....and so you should stick to your level: only follow holy rollers with minor league talent.
You are the one that says he wants blind obeisance to some unattainable standard that you seem to want to impose...on players/fans. A standard you certainly fall far short of yourself. I don't see, based on that...that there is anything or anyone out there for you to root for.
(by the way...they are Social Security checks now...which I worked very hard to earn)
OH WAIT....by the way....maybe there is a guy:
Tim Tebow is playing for the Binghamton team at the Akron Rubber Ducks. So, you should go root for him.
He is a young man with character. Ain't worth spit as either a pro football player or baseball player. But he was good at his level....and so you should stick to your level: only follow holy rollers with minor league talent.
This team is named after Paul Brown, a man who didn't let garbage like Callaway or Mayfield mop floors, much less play. If you want to cheer for a team full of scumbags then go follow the Yinzers or Ratbirds. They love your kind, welfare willy.
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You are the one that says he wants blind obeisance to some unattainable standard that you seem to want to impose...on players/fans. A standard you certainly fall far short of yourself. I don't see, based on that...that there is anything or anyone out there for you to root for.
(by the way...they are Social Security checks now...which I worked very hard to earn)
OH WAIT....by the way....maybe there is a guy:
Tim Tebow is playing for the Binghamton team at the Akron Rubber Ducks. So, you should go root for him.
He is a young man with character. Ain't worth spit as either a pro football player or baseball player. But he was good at his level....and so you should stick to your level: only follow holy rollers with minor league talent.
This team is named after Paul Brown, a man who didn't let garbage like Callaway or Mayfield mop floors, much less play. If you want to cheer for a team full of scumbags then go follow the Yinzers or Ratbirds. They love your kind, welfare willy.
This team is named after Paul Brown, a man who didn't let garbage like Callaway or Mayfield mop floors, much less play. If you want to cheer for a team full of scumbags then go follow the Yinzers or Ratbirds. They love your kind, welfare willy.
So you're leaving now. OK.
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According to the Darnold loving Browns executice
After the scouting combine, it was widely assumed that the Cleveland Browns had zeroed in on Sam Darnold as their man at the top of the 2018 draft. However, Cleveland made a late pivot to Baker Mayfield that shocked the NFL world.
Asked Monday what the Browns saw in Mayfield that they didn't see in Darnold, vice president of player personnel Alonzo Highsmith explained that the 2017 Heisman winner's 'it' factor swayed him from his original top grade on Darnold.
"Here's the honest to God's truth," Highsmith said, according to CantonRep.com's Steve Doerschuk. "From the start of his college football season to the end of the season, I had Darnold No. 1 and Baker No. 2, (Josh) Rosen No. 3, (Lamar) Jackson No. 4, and (Josh) Allen after that.
"On our way through everything, you couldn't tell me Darnold wasn't the best. I did all my evaluations of the season. Then comes the part where you meet them off the field. You watch their workouts. You watch everything. And Baker blew me away. Highly, highly intelligent. Highly competitive.
"And he had a trait that some of the good ones have. I call it efficacy. That includes the power to (affect) other people. I thought that of all the quarterbacks I watched, he stood out far and above the other guys. When he walked into a room, you knew he was there."
Darnold didn't have to wait long to hear his name called, as the New York Jets jumped on the talented quarterback at No. 3 overall.
Josh Allen was also in contention to go the Browns but ultimately went seventh overall to the Buffalo Bills. Highsmith said Mayfield's ability to succeed regardless of his supporting cast pushed him ahead of the former Wyoming passer.
"Baker Mayfield lost two receivers and he was the same quarterback,” Highsmith said. "Josh Allen ... big arm ... he could throw the ball from here to the moon. When they have to make excuses ... why are they not completing passes? That's a problem."
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