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  • I will shocked if we can win 4 games.  You can have all the talent but if the coach sucks the team will suck.   

    @lbc-mike said:

    I will shocked if we can win 4 games.  You can have all the talent but if the coach sucks the team will suck.   

    True. Hue has a long way to go to make a lot of us believers. 

  • We're always substantially improved looking in May.

    This year, however, is markedly different from the previous years.  We have Todd Haley instead of Hue running the offense and play calling.

    We've brought in 3 offensive weapons in Tyrod, Landry & Chubb.  (I'm not counting Mayfield...but even if he DID play it'd still be 3 weapons as Tyrod would sit.  and Carlos Hyde is the new Crowell)

    On D we are now to believe that Peppers will play his normal position due to the Kizer trade and the draft.  We get to play eleven on eleven.

    ...and of course, last but not least, we have the joker of the deck....Josh Gordon.  He could be anywhere from the pro bowl to a jail cell.

    On paper, we're quite improved...although we're gonna need a little luck with the guys we brought in for the offensive tackle positions.

  • I will shocked if we can win 4 games.  You can have all the talent but if the coach sucks the team will suck.   

    @lbc-mike said:

    I will shocked if we can win 4 games.  You can have all the talent but if the coach sucks the team will suck.   

    Take Ben from Tomlin.Take Rogers from McCarthy.Take R.Wilson from P.Carol. How good are they as coaches when there are only 32 of them jobs? Am not even sure Pete Carrol had a full play call card before... R.Wilson run around for your life than just chuck it up 🙂..

  • @lbc-mike said:

    I will shocked if we can win 4 games.  You can have all the talent but if the coach sucks the team will suck.   

    True. Hue has a long way to go to make a lot of us believers. 

    @comeonman said:

    True. Hue has a long way to go to make a lot of us believers. 

    Good news is that both Haley and Williams have been a HC.

    Haley wont put up with any crap from Hue. 

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    @comeonman said:

    The best you can say of Shurmur is he is experienced? Yeah, that’s about right I guess. Honestly I couldn’t tell you if I’d rather have him or Hue coaching the team if I had to choose between only the two of them. 

    shurmer for sure he seems to have a little more practice calling plays that said thank god hugh got stripped of that duty

    @syd said:

    shurmer for sure he seems to have a little more practice calling plays that said thank god hugh got stripped of that duty

    The only draw back there is .. if Hue doesn't like a particular play call.. He reserves the right to nullify it.

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    @comeonman said:

    The best you can say of Shurmur is he is experienced? Yeah, that’s about right I guess. Honestly I couldn’t tell you if I’d rather have him or Hue coaching the team if I had to choose between only the two of them. 

    shurmer for sure he seems to have a little more practice calling plays that said thank god hugh got stripped of that duty

    @syd said:

    shurmer for sure he seems to have a little more practice calling plays that said thank god hugh got stripped of that duty

    I still say Pat Shurmer was the worst coach we've had. 

    Hue's closing in though....no excuses this yer, on paper the team is improved.

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    @texasag1969 said:

    And here is more good news!!!!! Howard Wilson says he's ready to go now!!

    https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/Article/Howard-Wilson-intends-to-be-on-Browns-field-for-OTAs-coming-back-from-injury-118244816?utm_source=247Sports Newsletter&utm_medium=Newsletter&utm_campaign=180515_195714_Cleveland Browns&utm_content=Image&liveconnect=1B-C2-1E-69-15-F3-1E-26-47-C2-FB-AF-1F-3D-14-30180515_195714ClevelandBrowns

    a 4th round pick from last year missed the entire season we drafted 2 cb's and added in f,a he is gonna have to ball out on special teams if he wants a roster spot

    @syd said:

    a 4th round pick from last year missed the entire season we drafted 2 cb's and added in f,a he is gonna have to ball out on special teams if he wants a roster spot

    He actually was a first rounder who dropped because of the knee injury. Not really a 4th rounder if he's as fully recovered as he says he is.

    @canton-mike said:

    We may find ourselves with a real logjam at DB. Sort of a good problem to have.

    Mike

    We may have a steal here Mike.

  • @syd said:

    a 4th round pick from last year missed the entire season we drafted 2 cb's and added in f,a he is gonna have to ball out on special teams if he wants a roster spot

    He actually was a first rounder who dropped because of the knee injury. Not really a 4th rounder if he's as fully recovered as he says he is.

    @canton-mike said:

    We may find ourselves with a real logjam at DB. Sort of a good problem to have.

    Mike

    We may have a steal here Mike.

    @texasag1969 said:

    He actually was a first rounder who dropped because of the knee injury. Not really a 4th rounder if he's as fully recovered as he says he is.

    We may have a steal here Mike.

    Hopefully not a repeat of that kid we drafted out of Oregon a couple years back. He was supposedly a first round talent as well before his injury. 

  • @texasag1969 said:

    He actually was a first rounder who dropped because of the knee injury. Not really a 4th rounder if he's as fully recovered as he says he is.

    We may have a steal here Mike.

    Hopefully not a repeat of that kid we drafted out of Oregon a couple years back. He was supposedly a first round talent as well before his injury. 

    @comeonman said:

    Hopefully not a repeat of that kid we drafted out of Oregon a couple years back. He was supposedly a first round talent as well before his injury. 

    Do you mean Mayle?  Or are you talking about another position?

  • Mayle was USC. Some Nigerian guy like Njmbigwae. No clue what his name really was or how to spell it. He was a DB as well.

  • @comeonman said:

    Hopefully not a repeat of that kid we drafted out of Oregon a couple years back. He was supposedly a first round talent as well before his injury. 

    Do you mean Mayle?  Or are you talking about another position?

    @the-gipper said:

    Do you mean Mayle?  Or are you talking about another position?

    I forgot the kids name but he got hurt on a non contact drill leading up to the rose bowl vs Ohio State (good thing for him that he took out a insurance policy on himself for injury)

  • Had to look it up. Ifo Ekpre-Olomu. Beast DB for Oregon who took a late injury and we took a chance (7th round). 

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    @the-gipper said:

    Do you mean Mayle?  Or are you talking about another position?

    I forgot the kids name but he got hurt on a non contact drill leading up to the rose bowl vs Ohio State (good thing for him that he took out a insurance policy on himself for injury)

    @syd said:

    I forgot the kids name but he got hurt on a non contact drill leading up to the rose bowl vs Ohio State (good thing for him that he took out a insurance policy on himself for injury)

    OK, we are talking the DB, not the WR.

  • @comeonman said:

    Hopefully not a repeat of that kid we drafted out of Oregon a couple years back. He was supposedly a first round talent as well before his injury. 

    Do you mean Mayle?  Or are you talking about another position?

    @the-gipper said:

    Do you mean Mayle?  Or are you talking about another position?

    Mayle is now a Raven..Only Ray Farmer would use a 4th round pick on a guy that breaks his thumb at the Senior Bowl in Jan. But didn't realize it was broken till late Feb. at Combine..sure we drafted him 😕 knowing it. A short stop at dallas, now a raven coming off concussion issues..  

  • I will shocked if we can win 4 games.  You can have all the talent but if the coach sucks the team will suck.   

    @lbc-mike said:

    I will shocked if we can  can't win 4 games.  You can have all the talent but if the coach sucks the team will suck.   

    MHO FIWY.

  • @syd said:

    I forgot the kids name but he got hurt on a non contact drill leading up to the rose bowl vs Ohio State (good thing for him that he took out a insurance policy on himself for injury)

    OK, we are talking the DB, not the WR.

    @the-gipper said:

    OK, we are talking the DB, not the WR.

    olomu is the guy