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  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @jrb12711 said:

    Yeah, that was brought up as well. I've only been three times, and it was definitely very interesting to see how things shifted. This last time I was amazed that even places like Luxor were $100+ a night on a non-descript week in April. When I first went (2013) I simply called for rates and was offered a buy one, get two nights free deal and paid a whopping $110 total.

    I really enjoy the wow factor of Vegas, but that just isn't worth it.

    Question.....will losing their monopoly on sports gaming mean that LV will lose a lot of tourism there....seeing as how they  (Nevada) WERE the only place you could go to do that legally?  Or will they go the other route and jack up hotel prices by claiming that their basic....non gambling attractions are enough to warrant tourism on a large scale?  Will they think they have similar to offer to a tourist as does San Fran, Boston, NYC, DC etc...other places where the hotel rates are high?

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/214585/most-expensive-cities-in-the-us-ordered-by-hotel-prices-2010/

    from this link you see that the highest hotel rates are in:

    1. Boston

    2. New York City

    3. San Fran

    4. Wash DC

    5. Honolulu

    6. Chicago

    7. Nashville

    8. LA

    9. Seattle

    10. New Orleans

    11. Miami

    12. Philly

    13. San Jose

    14. Scottsdale

    15. Denver.

     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     

    @the-gipper said:

    Question.....will losing their monopoly on sports gaming mean that LV will lose a lot of tourism there....seeing as how they  (Nevada) WERE the only place you could go to do that legally?  Or will they go the other route and jack up hotel prices by claiming that their basic....non gambling attractions are enough to warrant tourism on a large scale?  Will they think they have similar to offer to a tourist as does San Fran, Boston, NYC, DC etc...other places where the hotel rates are high?

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/214585/most-expensive-cities-in-the-us-ordered-by-hotel-prices-2010/

    from this link you see that the highest hotel rates are in:

    2. New York City

    6. Chicago

    7. Nashville

    12. Philly

    Interesting list when you consider the City's where the NFL Draft has gone. Heard the first complaint from a Cowboy fan today, complaining on how the draft lottery went to get in. Only allowing about 20 thousand in per day including media..Sounds like next season the NFL Draft will be in Nashville. A 8 hour drive for me. But if you have never been in Nashville? Hotels are not easy to find at Anytime..Glad that it maybe back to the open streets thou.  EDIT--States need to quit stalling on opening gambling outlets..Todd Haley is planning on hanging 50 on Tomlins arss..Odds were 7.5..Our luck the machines come out with odds under -4 😛..  

    Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends
  • hoortaH hoorta

    @mjp28 said:

    FROM CNN, 2016.....

    "Brothels not legal in big cities

    Nevada law allows counties with a population below 700,000 to offer brothel prostitution.
    That means no legal prostitution in Clark County, where Las Vegas is. County law prohibits brothels in Washoe County, home to Reno, and several other counties." (SEE THE LINK IT EXPLAINS NRS 244.345 in detail.)  😉

    The current law says under 700,000 in population, 60 miles is never mentioned.

    Nevada is a tiny little state with nothing except Vegas and Henderson in Clark County and Reno in Washoe county......    nevermind this is going nowhere. 

    Facts just tend to confuse some people.  😆

    Actually Nevada is a really big state- with not much in it besides Vegas, Reno, and Henderson. 🙂  7th in area, and it surprised me that it's bigger than Wyoming. But 33rd (estimate) in population. BTW, 2\3rd of the state's 3 million population are in the Las Vegas vicinity, meaning there's a whole lot of nothing everywhere else in the state. But they do have a lot of open desert open desert where the military blows stuff up, and and nice high level nuclear waste dump.  

    @hoorta said:

    Actually Nevada is a really big state- with not much in it besides Vegas, Reno, and Henderson. 🙂  7th in area, and it surprised me that it's bigger than Wyoming. But 33rd (estimate) in population. BTW, 2\3rd of the state's 3 million population are in the Las Vegas vicinity, meaning there's a whole lot of nothing everywhere else in the state. But they do have a lot of open desert open desert where the military blows stuff up, and and nice high level nuclear waste dump.  

    Yes, I was thinking about population and Nevada is pretty much dependant on Los Wages, NV for money and any other state bragging rights, if Vegas slows it would not be a great thing.....at least Vegas isn't too far from California money.

    But Vegas has a hockey team and are going to the Stanley Cup, woo-hoo!

    GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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  • jrb12711J jrb12711

    @boo-fagley said:

    I believe that profits via gambling are down because of the economy which is now on the rebound. Some states were still suffering a slight recession as early as 2016. I know that in 2008 Vegas really took it hard. I had a friend working on a high rise there and one day they just shut down the job and sent everyone home with the building 50% complete. 

    I now dont have to go to Vegas to place a football bet.

    Yeah, that was brought up as well. I've only been three times, and it was definitely very interesting to see how things shifted. This last time I was amazed that even places like Luxor were $100+ a night on a non-descript week in April. When I first went (2013) I simply called for rates and was offered a buy one, get two nights free deal and paid a whopping $110 total.

    I really enjoy the wow factor of Vegas, but that just isn't worth it.

    @jrb12711 said:

    Yeah, that was brought up as well. I've only been three times, and it was definitely very interesting to see how things shifted. This last time I was amazed that even places like Luxor were $100+ a night on a non-descript week in April. When I first went (2013) I simply called for rates and was offered a buy one, get two nights free deal and paid a whopping $110 total.

    I really enjoy the wow factor of Vegas, but that just isn't worth it.

    If you ever want to have a great time, check out the Mirage opening NCAA football weekend.

    Betting on games, theater style seating, 4 games on at once, free beer and some drinks too, if you gamble, Carnigie deli around the corner. Bunch of football fans having a swell time. I will go back.

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  • mjp28M mjp28

    @hoorta said:

    Actually Nevada is a really big state- with not much in it besides Vegas, Reno, and Henderson. 🙂  7th in area, and it surprised me that it's bigger than Wyoming. But 33rd (estimate) in population. BTW, 2\3rd of the state's 3 million population are in the Las Vegas vicinity, meaning there's a whole lot of nothing everywhere else in the state. But they do have a lot of open desert open desert where the military blows stuff up, and and nice high level nuclear waste dump.  

    Yes, I was thinking about population and Nevada is pretty much dependant on Los Wages, NV for money and any other state bragging rights, if Vegas slows it would not be a great thing.....at least Vegas isn't too far from California money.

    But Vegas has a hockey team and are going to the Stanley Cup, woo-hoo!

    @mjp28 said:

    Yes, I was thinking about population and Nevada is pretty much dependant on Los Wages, NV for money and any other state bragging rights, if Vegas slows it would not be a great thing.....at least Vegas isn't too far from California money.

    But Vegas has a hockey team and are going to the Stanley Cup, woo-hoo!

    This is Bull S**t. Let those expansion suckers wait for 20 years or so to make it. 1999 Browns = Super Bowl.  

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  • B boo fagley

    @jrb12711 said:

    Yeah, that was brought up as well. I've only been three times, and it was definitely very interesting to see how things shifted. This last time I was amazed that even places like Luxor were $100+ a night on a non-descript week in April. When I first went (2013) I simply called for rates and was offered a buy one, get two nights free deal and paid a whopping $110 total.

    I really enjoy the wow factor of Vegas, but that just isn't worth it.

    If you ever want to have a great time, check out the Mirage opening NCAA football weekend.

    Betting on games, theater style seating, 4 games on at once, free beer and some drinks too, if you gamble, Carnigie deli around the corner. Bunch of football fans having a swell time. I will go back.

    @boo-fagley said:

    If you ever want to have a great time, check out the Mirage opening NCAA football weekend.

    Betting on games, theater style seating, 4 games on at once, free beer and some drinks too, if you gamble, Carnigie deli around the corner. Bunch of football fans having a swell time. I will go back.

    Yeah, Mirage is high on my list although Wynn takes the cake in terms of quality.

    The best experience I've had by far though was in Lagasse's stadium at the Palazzo. Sounds crazy at first, but we got private recliner seats and the area is stadium style seating with the typical myriad of screens setup. The reserved seats also come with a private (not high roller) area with craps & blackjack, so free booze (and good booze at that). It was during an OSU game and I can safely say I haven't had that was an amazing evening.

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  • hoortaH hoorta

    @mjp28 said:

    Yes, I was thinking about population and Nevada is pretty much dependant on Los Wages, NV for money and any other state bragging rights, if Vegas slows it would not be a great thing.....at least Vegas isn't too far from California money.

    But Vegas has a hockey team and are going to the Stanley Cup, woo-hoo!

    This is Bull S**t. Let those expansion suckers wait for 20 years or so to make it. 1999 Browns = Super Bowl.  

    @hoorta said:

    This is Bull S**t. Let those expansion suckers wait for 20 years or so to make it. 1999 Browns = Super Bowl.  

      This would have been like the Houston Texans making the Super Bowl in their first year.....absolutely absurd.

    Though....the one thing that it may demonstrate is that  QBs and  pitchers are NOT the most important players in sports but rather it is the Hockey Goalie that is.  What is the LVGK's goalie's name?  Fleury or something?  

  • B boo fagley

    @jrb12711 said:

    Yeah, that was brought up as well. I've only been three times, and it was definitely very interesting to see how things shifted. This last time I was amazed that even places like Luxor were $100+ a night on a non-descript week in April. When I first went (2013) I simply called for rates and was offered a buy one, get two nights free deal and paid a whopping $110 total.

    I really enjoy the wow factor of Vegas, but that just isn't worth it.

    If you ever want to have a great time, check out the Mirage opening NCAA football weekend.

    Betting on games, theater style seating, 4 games on at once, free beer and some drinks too, if you gamble, Carnigie deli around the corner. Bunch of football fans having a swell time. I will go back.

    @boo-fagley said:

    If you ever want to have a great time, check out the Mirage opening NCAA football weekend.

    Betting on games, theater style seating, 4 games on at once, free beer and some drinks too, if you gamble, Carnigie deli around the corner. Bunch of football fans having a swell time. I will go back.

    I spent a Sunday in the Harrah's casino in Tahoe in 1999.  You could sit and watch all the games being played after having placed your bets.  It was fun. 

    The Browns had just "come back"....and the game was vs. the Bengals.  I put a 5 dollar bet on them to win.  This was the game in which Akili Smith like won the only game of his career as a starter.   The Bengals  scored in the last minute to win by 2 I think....but they were favored to win by like 3 or 5 points.   The Browns covered but lost the game.  I was so pissed that I never collected my winnings.  I still have the ticket as a souvenir of the day.

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  • jrb12711J jrb12711

    @boo-fagley said:

    If you ever want to have a great time, check out the Mirage opening NCAA football weekend.

    Betting on games, theater style seating, 4 games on at once, free beer and some drinks too, if you gamble, Carnigie deli around the corner. Bunch of football fans having a swell time. I will go back.

    Yeah, Mirage is high on my list although Wynn takes the cake in terms of quality.

    The best experience I've had by far though was in Lagasse's stadium at the Palazzo. Sounds crazy at first, but we got private recliner seats and the area is stadium style seating with the typical myriad of screens setup. The reserved seats also come with a private (not high roller) area with craps & blackjack, so free booze (and good booze at that). It was during an OSU game and I can safely say I haven't had that was an amazing evening.

    @jrb12711 said:

    Yeah, Mirage is high on my list although Wynn takes the cake in terms of quality.

    The best experience I've had by far though was in Lagasse's stadium at the Palazzo. Sounds crazy at first, but we got private recliner seats and the area is stadium style seating with the typical myriad of screens setup. The reserved seats also come with a private (not high roller) area with craps & blackjack, so free booze (and good booze at that). It was during an OSU game and I can safely say I haven't had that was an amazing evening.

    And now, perhaps...you can have that same experience right here in Cleveland.

    But....there is a BIG question to be answered:    Will a person be able to own both a sports franchise AND a casino that will be involved in sports betting?  Of course I am thinking of Dan Gilbert.  

    Under NFL rules Gilbert could NOT own both a team and a casino....but  the NBA does not disallow that, obviously.  But I don't know if Gilbert can both own the Cavs....and also own a casino that  allows betting on the Cavs.

    I guarandamntee you that the casinos in this area:   the two JACKS, downtown and at Thistledown...owned by Gilbert and the Hard Rock at Northfield will want to get into the sports gaming arena.  But I do not see any way that Gilbert could go along with not having sports betting in the Casinos he owns while it is allowed at the Hard Rock.  Here is the owner of the Hard Rock:

    Hard Rock Rocksino Northfield Park Ownership/Management

     
     
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  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @boo-fagley said:

    If you ever want to have a great time, check out the Mirage opening NCAA football weekend.

    Betting on games, theater style seating, 4 games on at once, free beer and some drinks too, if you gamble, Carnigie deli around the corner. Bunch of football fans having a swell time. I will go back.

    I spent a Sunday in the Harrah's casino in Tahoe in 1999.  You could sit and watch all the games being played after having placed your bets.  It was fun. 

    The Browns had just "come back"....and the game was vs. the Bengals.  I put a 5 dollar bet on them to win.  This was the game in which Akili Smith like won the only game of his career as a starter.   The Bengals  scored in the last minute to win by 2 I think....but they were favored to win by like 3 or 5 points.   The Browns covered but lost the game.  I was so pissed that I never collected my winnings.  I still have the ticket as a souvenir of the day.

    @the-gipper said:

    I spent a Sunday in the Harrah's casino in Tahoe in 1999.  You could sit and watch all the games being played after having placed your bets.  It was fun. 

    The Browns had just "come back"....and the game was vs. the Bengals.  I put a 5 dollar bet on them to win.  This was the game in which Akili Smith like won the only game of his career as a starter.   The Bengals  scored in the last minute to win by 2 I think....but they were favored to win by like 3 or 5 points.   The Browns covered but lost the game.  I was so pissed that I never collected my winnings.  I still have the ticket as a souvenir of the day.

    Ah ha! I always thought that The Gipper was a high roller.  😉

    GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
  • hoortaH hoorta

    @mjp28 said:

    Yes, I was thinking about population and Nevada is pretty much dependant on Los Wages, NV for money and any other state bragging rights, if Vegas slows it would not be a great thing.....at least Vegas isn't too far from California money.

    But Vegas has a hockey team and are going to the Stanley Cup, woo-hoo!

    This is Bull S**t. Let those expansion suckers wait for 20 years or so to make it. 1999 Browns = Super Bowl.  

    @hoorta said:

    This is Bull S**t. Let those expansion suckers wait for 20 years or so to make it. 1999 Browns = Super Bowl.  

    When I saw golden knights on TV I thought it was a new nevada brothel. 😆

    And they have as goalie former Penguin:

    Marc-André Fleury is a French-Canadian professional ice hockey goaltender playing for the Vegas Golden Knights of the National Hockey League.
    Born: November 28, 1984 (age 33 years), Sorel-Tracy, Canada Height: 6′ 2″
    NHL team Former teams: Vegas Golden Knights; Pittsburgh Penguins
    GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @boo-fagley said:

    If you ever want to have a great time, check out the Mirage opening NCAA football weekend.

    Betting on games, theater style seating, 4 games on at once, free beer and some drinks too, if you gamble, Carnigie deli around the corner. Bunch of football fans having a swell time. I will go back.

    I spent a Sunday in the Harrah's casino in Tahoe in 1999.  You could sit and watch all the games being played after having placed your bets.  It was fun. 

    The Browns had just "come back"....and the game was vs. the Bengals.  I put a 5 dollar bet on them to win.  This was the game in which Akili Smith like won the only game of his career as a starter.   The Bengals  scored in the last minute to win by 2 I think....but they were favored to win by like 3 or 5 points.   The Browns covered but lost the game.  I was so pissed that I never collected my winnings.  I still have the ticket as a souvenir of the day.

    @the-gipper said:

    I spent a Sunday in the Harrah's casino in Tahoe in 1999.  You could sit and watch all the games being played after having placed your bets.  It was fun. 

    The Browns had just "come back"....and the game was vs. the Bengals.  I put a 5 dollar bet on them to win.  This was the game in which Akili Smith like won the only game of his career as a starter.   The Bengals  scored in the last minute to win by 2 I think....but they were favored to win by like 3 or 5 points.   The Browns covered but lost the game.  I was so pissed that I never collected my winnings.  I still have the ticket as a souvenir of the day.

    Sounds just like my luck.

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