WR position
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Have ye folks seen the latest picture of this man? Dear God he is farkin jacked! I have supreme confidence Flash is back for good with his head on straight!
Have ye folks seen the latest picture of this man? Dear God he is farkin jacked! I have supreme confidence Flash is back for good with his head on straight!
Absolute machine. Hope he can stay on the field
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Teams will fear our wrs for once.
Teams will fear our wrs for once.
That just sounds strange but might possibly turn out to be true.
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Can't wait to see how he celebrates this....
isn't he still out with a groin injury
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Can't wait to see how he celebrates this....
isn't he still out with a groin injury
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Have ye folks seen the latest picture of this man? Dear God he is farkin jacked! I have supreme confidence Flash is back for good with his head on straight!
Have ye folks seen the latest picture of this man? Dear God he is farkin jacked! I have supreme confidence Flash is back for good with his head on straight!
Is he trying out for a body building contest? Sheeze, Baker's comment I've never seen anyone like him could mean a couple of different things.... Don't rip one of those muscles Josh...
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Have ye folks seen the latest picture of this man? Dear God he is farkin jacked! I have supreme confidence Flash is back for good with his head on straight!
Is he trying out for a body building contest? Sheeze, Baker's comment I've never seen anyone like him could mean a couple of different things.... Don't rip one of those muscles Josh...
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Have ye folks seen the latest picture of this man? Dear God he is farkin jacked! I have supreme confidence Flash is back for good with his head on straight!
Is he trying out for a body building contest? Sheeze, Baker's comment I've never seen anyone like him could mean a couple of different things.... Don't rip one of those muscles Josh...
Is he trying out for a body building contest? Sheeze, Baker's comment I've never seen anyone like him could mean a couple of different things.... Don't rip one of those muscles Josh...
I don't think there is a receiver in the league as buff as Flash... he looks like a goddamn linebacker on steroids. If he keeps his head on straight he will destroy anybody who tries to press him in coverage.
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Is he trying out for a body building contest? Sheeze, Baker's comment I've never seen anyone like him could mean a couple of different things.... Don't rip one of those muscles Josh...
I don't think there is a receiver in the league as buff as Flash... he looks like a goddamn linebacker on steroids. If he keeps his head on straight he will destroy anybody who tries to press him in coverage.
I don't think there is a receiver in the league as buff as Flash... he looks like a goddamn linebacker on steroids. If he keeps his head on straight he will destroy anybody who tries to press him in coverage.
Can't really press him. Not effectively anyway. Go watch that bomb against Pittsburgh last year. Watch how he tracks the ball and snatches it out of the air like it's nothing. Crazy.
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I don't think there is a receiver in the league as buff as Flash... he looks like a goddamn linebacker on steroids. If he keeps his head on straight he will destroy anybody who tries to press him in coverage.
Can't really press him. Not effectively anyway. Go watch that bomb against Pittsburgh last year. Watch how he tracks the ball and snatches it out of the air like it's nothing. Crazy.
Can't really press him. Not effectively anyway. Go watch that bomb against Pittsburgh last year. Watch how he tracks the ball and snatches it out of the air like it's nothing. Crazy.
He is so insanely talented it makes me sick what he could have accomplished with 3 years of basically not playing... only way is up from here. I couldn't be more pumped for this season though. I cried and barely watched more than a quarter of any game last year. I love Dorsey. Man has elephant balls of steel.
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Have ye folks seen the latest picture of this man? Dear God he is farkin jacked! I have supreme confidence Flash is back for good with his head on straight!
Is he trying out for a body building contest? Sheeze, Baker's comment I've never seen anyone like him could mean a couple of different things.... Don't rip one of those muscles Josh...
Is he trying out for a body building contest? Sheeze, Baker's comment I've never seen anyone like him could mean a couple of different things.... Don't rip one of those muscles Josh...
That can happen! And I don't ever remember Jerry Rice looking like that on the way to the Hall of Fame, conditioned yes mirror worthy no.
GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND! -
He was working out with Harrison supposedly, hope he doesn't get busted for PEDs.
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Is he trying out for a body building contest? Sheeze, Baker's comment I've never seen anyone like him could mean a couple of different things.... Don't rip one of those muscles Josh...
That can happen! And I don't ever remember Jerry Rice looking like that on the way to the Hall of Fame, conditioned yes mirror worthy no.
That can happen! And I don't ever remember Jerry Rice looking like that on the way to the Hall of Fame, conditioned yes mirror worthy no.
I remember former Buckeye - David Boston going from a very productive WR to looking like a body builder that lost a few steps on his way out. I think he's younger than Boston was at the time though so he probably has more quicks/speed to his game at this point.
All this said, I'd rather see Gordon cross addicted to fitness/conditioning than the stuff suspending him. He could be taking Creatine which adds mass during strength training especially for guys that never had a lot of body fat in the first place. Warrick Dunn used to take creatine back when I worked in the Bucs weight room back in 97 and 98. The biggest drawback to that was it made him even more susceptible to cramps than the heat of the summers in Tampa were already exposing him to. It's good for guys that want to add strength and mass without using PEDs.
This almost makes me wonder if they want to kick him inside more frequently like Arizona did with Larry Fitzgerald when they first perceived he lost a step. He at least gives us an option to do that occasionally. We shall see...
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
That can happen! And I don't ever remember Jerry Rice looking like that on the way to the Hall of Fame, conditioned yes mirror worthy no.
I remember former Buckeye - David Boston going from a very productive WR to looking like a body builder that lost a few steps on his way out. I think he's younger than Boston was at the time though so he probably has more quicks/speed to his game at this point.
All this said, I'd rather see Gordon cross addicted to fitness/conditioning than the stuff suspending him. He could be taking Creatine which adds mass during strength training especially for guys that never had a lot of body fat in the first place. Warrick Dunn used to take creatine back when I worked in the Bucs weight room back in 97 and 98. The biggest drawback to that was it made him even more susceptible to cramps than the heat of the summers in Tampa were already exposing him to. It's good for guys that want to add strength and mass without using PEDs.
This almost makes me wonder if they want to kick him inside more frequently like Arizona did with Larry Fitzgerald when they first perceived he lost a step. He at least gives us an option to do that occasionally. We shall see...
I remember former Buckeye - David Boston going from a very productive WR to looking like a body builder that lost a few steps on his way out. I think he's younger than Boston was at the time though so he probably has more quicks/speed to his game at this point.
All this said, I'd rather see Gordon cross addicted to fitness/conditioning than the stuff suspending him. He could be taking Creatine which adds mass during strength training especially for guys that never had a lot of body fat in the first place. Warrick Dunn used to take creatine back when I worked in the Bucs weight room back in 97 and 98. The biggest drawback to that was it made him even more susceptible to cramps than the heat of the summers in Tampa were already exposing him to. It's good for guys that want to add strength and mass without using PEDs.
This almost makes me wonder if they want to kick him inside more frequently like Arizona did with Larry Fitzgerald when they first perceived he lost a step. He at least gives us an option to do that occasionally. We shall see...
Do remember that the Browns need a serious stretch the field deep threat that can fight for the ball.......not fight Mike Tyson in a ring. Being in great shape is nice, being over muscled for a WR, DB even some other positions might have it's hot weather and gameday risks.
They need a gazelle not a tank.
GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND! -
I remember former Buckeye - David Boston going from a very productive WR to looking like a body builder that lost a few steps on his way out. I think he's younger than Boston was at the time though so he probably has more quicks/speed to his game at this point.
All this said, I'd rather see Gordon cross addicted to fitness/conditioning than the stuff suspending him. He could be taking Creatine which adds mass during strength training especially for guys that never had a lot of body fat in the first place. Warrick Dunn used to take creatine back when I worked in the Bucs weight room back in 97 and 98. The biggest drawback to that was it made him even more susceptible to cramps than the heat of the summers in Tampa were already exposing him to. It's good for guys that want to add strength and mass without using PEDs.
This almost makes me wonder if they want to kick him inside more frequently like Arizona did with Larry Fitzgerald when they first perceived he lost a step. He at least gives us an option to do that occasionally. We shall see...
Do remember that the Browns need a serious stretch the field deep threat that can fight for the ball.......not fight Mike Tyson in a ring. Being in great shape is nice, being over muscled for a WR, DB even some other positions might have it's hot weather and gameday risks.
They need a gazelle not a tank.
Do remember that the Browns need a serious stretch the field deep threat that can fight for the ball.......not fight Mike Tyson in a ring. Being in great shape is nice, being over muscled for a WR, DB even some other positions might have it's hot weather and gameday risks.
They need a gazelle not a tank.
Over doing it on the weights is the reason we see so many muscle tears now.
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Do remember that the Browns need a serious stretch the field deep threat that can fight for the ball.......not fight Mike Tyson in a ring. Being in great shape is nice, being over muscled for a WR, DB even some other positions might have it's hot weather and gameday risks.
They need a gazelle not a tank.
Over doing it on the weights is the reason we see so many muscle tears now.
Over doing it on the weights is the reason we see so many muscle tears now.
Yeah that was my problem.......wait I wasn't a WR I was a LB and undersized DE, nevermind.
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@gumby73 said:
Let the Flash just be Flash...
the dude owes something to himself in life..Come Football Sundays, it maybe just as fun to watch..
Maybe he's getting ready for Hollywood and Hard Knocks? Eh?
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@gumby73 said:
Let the Flash just be Flash...
the dude owes something to himself in life..Come Football Sundays, it maybe just as fun to watch..
Maybe he's getting ready for Hollywood and Hard Knocks? Eh?
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I remember former Buckeye - David Boston going from a very productive WR to looking like a body builder that lost a few steps on his way out. I think he's younger than Boston was at the time though so he probably has more quicks/speed to his game at this point.
All this said, I'd rather see Gordon cross addicted to fitness/conditioning than the stuff suspending him. He could be taking Creatine which adds mass during strength training especially for guys that never had a lot of body fat in the first place. Warrick Dunn used to take creatine back when I worked in the Bucs weight room back in 97 and 98. The biggest drawback to that was it made him even more susceptible to cramps than the heat of the summers in Tampa were already exposing him to. It's good for guys that want to add strength and mass without using PEDs.
This almost makes me wonder if they want to kick him inside more frequently like Arizona did with Larry Fitzgerald when they first perceived he lost a step. He at least gives us an option to do that occasionally. We shall see...
Do remember that the Browns need a serious stretch the field deep threat that can fight for the ball.......not fight Mike Tyson in a ring. Being in great shape is nice, being over muscled for a WR, DB even some other positions might have it's hot weather and gameday risks.
They need a gazelle not a tank.
Do remember that the Browns need a serious stretch the field deep threat that can fight for the ball.......not fight Mike Tyson in a ring. Being in great shape is nice, being over muscled for a WR, DB even some other positions might have it's hot weather and gameday risks.
They need a gazelle not a tank.
Seymore Crack gives you a vertical smile from his plumber pants. Good smart asss though MJ so I'll do my best to give you the devil's advocate reply. It'll be long winded but hear me out...
Of course I remember. Just like I remember why there's still so much emphasis on strength and conditioning all over the league and for pre-draft prep all over the country. Guys getting closer to 30 than 22 years of age aren't always going to have their FOs feeling all deep throat about their deep threat so their FOs draft a younger WR like Calloway just in case roles in the dynamic need to change. TBD...
If more muscle mass was a problem for taller athletes - you would have seen Michael Jordan, LeBron James and Terrell Owens stay as skinny as they were at 21 years of age vrs the massed up versions dominating people at 27-28 years of age. Michael Irvin also looked like he was on an Etiophian track star's diet at the U while he looked about 20 lbs heavier in his HOF career. All these guys I mentioned could run just as fast, if not faster, than their much skinnier previous versions of lesser accomplishment. Have you seen how massed up James is? Didn't stop him from scoring 50 points on Golden State or beating the Celtics. Nothing wrong with Gordon wanting to be more like that than Johnny Manziel these days.
Gordon used to routinely beat people down field with effortless LONG strides in tandem with the hand-eye coordination to make people pay. On the other hand, he's only played 5 football games since the 5 games he didn't score a single TD in back in 2014. In his 10 games since the magical 2013 season, he's scored only 1 TD. In 2014, he only averaged 12.6 yards per catch with 24 rec (47 targets) with 0 TD. In 2017, he averaged 18.6 yards a catch with 18 rec (42 targets) with 1 TD. When we've had the arm strength at QB to accommodate his long strides, he's scored more TDs especially in 2013. That said, who here misses Brandon Weeden after Kizer got sent packing? I'd rather get a comfortable blend of arm strength and accuracy from a QB that can either throw this guy open or hit him deep on a timing pattern from a 5-7 step drop or from an out-of-pocket waggle/bootleg. Many of our fans here have been saying this for years...
As for the stuff Gordon can control, I have a good feeling that he wants to be able to run more routes (featuring change of direction) in the passing tree than the old effortless ones (like straight aheads/drags/posts) he used to get away with. That's a good thing. I wouldn't say that if I didn't see a much different Josh Gordon last year in particular on plays he wasn't the primary target where he ran a route and sold the play vrs the previous "F--- it I'm not getting the ball this play." Then again, it's tough to evaluate our WRs when an inexperienced QB that isn't being coached very well isn't accurate enough to promote YAC from the YUCK.
Aside from work ethic, great hand-eye coordination is what made an often well covered WR like Cris Carter a HOF WR after he overcame a drug addiction. Nobody was better catching the ball in traffic or at reaching over and/or around guys in jump balls/double coverage or when well covered. Gordon can do this too especially if we can ever get confident and accurate enough QBs to pull it off. IMO, Gordon has very good hand-eye coordination with long levers and the same ability to out jump people if necessary. I HATE TO (MeO) but I think he morphed his body into the same well buffed temple I see Gordon working to establish. That didn't hurt his game - it took it to another level. If he can take the work ethic of both WRs I just mentioned - he won't allow himself to suck either. He'll be a bigger help to our QBs when he can run ALL of the routes in the playbook. It's gotta be better than the previous versions of preparation that never made it to game day...
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