WR position
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Do remember that the Browns need a serious stretch the field deep threat that can fight for the ball.......not fight Mike Tyson in a ring. Being in great shape is nice, being over muscled for a WR, DB even some other positions might have it's hot weather and gameday risks.
They need a gazelle not a tank.
Perhaps that could be Coleman’s role. Less things and people to crash your hands into way out there.
Perhaps that could be Coleman’s role. Less things and people to crash your hands into way out there.
Yes if Coleman can prove he won't drop wide open potentially game winning catches versus a big division rival.
He's still a first round talent but I hope that he doesn't end up on the bust list.
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Perhaps that could be Coleman’s role. Less things and people to crash your hands into way out there.
Yes if Coleman can prove he won't drop wide open potentially game winning catches versus a big division rival.
He's still a first round talent but I hope that he doesn't end up on the bust list.
Yes if Coleman can prove he won't drop wide open potentially game winning catches versus a big division rival.
He's still a first round talent but I hope that he doesn't end up on the bust list.
Tell Cory Coleman he has the week off starting Sept.19th 2018..On 9-26- 2016,"We" broke his right hand 1st by bending his hand all the way back off defenders pad "at practice"..Next 9-19-17 in week 2 at Ravens, Coleman falls hard on same right hand..snap" out again. Good betting odds on Week 1 or 2
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That can happen! And I don't ever remember Jerry Rice looking like that on the way to the Hall of Fame, conditioned yes mirror worthy no.
I remember former Buckeye - David Boston going from a very productive WR to looking like a body builder that lost a few steps on his way out. I think he's younger than Boston was at the time though so he probably has more quicks/speed to his game at this point.
All this said, I'd rather see Gordon cross addicted to fitness/conditioning than the stuff suspending him. He could be taking Creatine which adds mass during strength training especially for guys that never had a lot of body fat in the first place. Warrick Dunn used to take creatine back when I worked in the Bucs weight room back in 97 and 98. The biggest drawback to that was it made him even more susceptible to cramps than the heat of the summers in Tampa were already exposing him to. It's good for guys that want to add strength and mass without using PEDs.
This almost makes me wonder if they want to kick him inside more frequently like Arizona did with Larry Fitzgerald when they first perceived he lost a step. He at least gives us an option to do that occasionally. We shall see...
I remember former Buckeye - David Boston going from a very productive WR to looking like a body builder that lost a few steps on his way out. I think he's younger than Boston was at the time though so he probably has more quicks/speed to his game at this point.
All this said, I'd rather see Gordon cross addicted to fitness/conditioning than the stuff suspending him. He could be taking Creatine which adds mass during strength training especially for guys that never had a lot of body fat in the first place. Warrick Dunn used to take creatine back when I worked in the Bucs weight room back in 97 and 98. The biggest drawback to that was it made him even more susceptible to cramps than the heat of the summers in Tampa were already exposing him to. It's good for guys that want to add strength and mass without using PEDs.
This almost makes me wonder if they want to kick him inside more frequently like Arizona did with Larry Fitzgerald when they first perceived he lost a step. He at least gives us an option to do that occasionally. We shall see...
David Boston was my first thought too. Dude looked like he was stepping into the cage to fight Kimbo Slice. You have to do it gradually! Adding 35 pounds of muscle in an off-season is a little too obvious.
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I remember former Buckeye - David Boston going from a very productive WR to looking like a body builder that lost a few steps on his way out. I think he's younger than Boston was at the time though so he probably has more quicks/speed to his game at this point.
All this said, I'd rather see Gordon cross addicted to fitness/conditioning than the stuff suspending him. He could be taking Creatine which adds mass during strength training especially for guys that never had a lot of body fat in the first place. Warrick Dunn used to take creatine back when I worked in the Bucs weight room back in 97 and 98. The biggest drawback to that was it made him even more susceptible to cramps than the heat of the summers in Tampa were already exposing him to. It's good for guys that want to add strength and mass without using PEDs.
This almost makes me wonder if they want to kick him inside more frequently like Arizona did with Larry Fitzgerald when they first perceived he lost a step. He at least gives us an option to do that occasionally. We shall see...
David Boston was my first thought too. Dude looked like he was stepping into the cage to fight Kimbo Slice. You have to do it gradually! Adding 35 pounds of muscle in an off-season is a little too obvious.
David Boston was my first thought too. Dude looked like he was stepping into the cage to fight Kimbo Slice. You have to do it gradually! Adding 35 pounds of muscle in an off-season is a little too obvious.
I'll never forget the story of Boston in practice one day telling a DBack to be careful hitting him up high because he had just gotten a nipple ring and his man titty was sore. ?
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I remember former Buckeye - David Boston going from a very productive WR to looking like a body builder that lost a few steps on his way out. I think he's younger than Boston was at the time though so he probably has more quicks/speed to his game at this point.
All this said, I'd rather see Gordon cross addicted to fitness/conditioning than the stuff suspending him. He could be taking Creatine which adds mass during strength training especially for guys that never had a lot of body fat in the first place. Warrick Dunn used to take creatine back when I worked in the Bucs weight room back in 97 and 98. The biggest drawback to that was it made him even more susceptible to cramps than the heat of the summers in Tampa were already exposing him to. It's good for guys that want to add strength and mass without using PEDs.
This almost makes me wonder if they want to kick him inside more frequently like Arizona did with Larry Fitzgerald when they first perceived he lost a step. He at least gives us an option to do that occasionally. We shall see...
David Boston was my first thought too. Dude looked like he was stepping into the cage to fight Kimbo Slice. You have to do it gradually! Adding 35 pounds of muscle in an off-season is a little too obvious.
David Boston was my first thought too. Dude looked like he was stepping into the cage to fight Kimbo Slice. You have to do it gradually! Adding 35 pounds of muscle in an off-season is a little too obvious.
Precisely! Plus I think that was after he had about 6 years of wear and tear on his body while Josh has only played 10 games since 2013. Josh looked big last year at this time too. Once training camp gets underway - the combination of heat and the strength training transition to a maintenance phase should reduce the mass/weight a little.
I gave poor MJP a long winded reply that prolly had him snoring by the 2nd paragraph. The added muscle to Gordon over the last 2 years or so reminds me of TO/MeO. I don't think we'll see a decline in the speed/deep threat MJP and others are concerned about. If anything, we may see some better quicks out of stance and change of direction (especially if he's doing plyometrics).
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David Boston was my first thought too. Dude looked like he was stepping into the cage to fight Kimbo Slice. You have to do it gradually! Adding 35 pounds of muscle in an off-season is a little too obvious.
Precisely! Plus I think that was after he had about 6 years of wear and tear on his body while Josh has only played 10 games since 2013. Josh looked big last year at this time too. Once training camp gets underway - the combination of heat and the strength training transition to a maintenance phase should reduce the mass/weight a little.
I gave poor MJP a long winded reply that prolly had him snoring by the 2nd paragraph. The added muscle to Gordon over the last 2 years or so reminds me of TO/MeO. I don't think we'll see a decline in the speed/deep threat MJP and others are concerned about. If anything, we may see some better quicks out of stance and change of direction (especially if he's doing plyometrics).
Precisely! Plus I think that was after he had about 6 years of wear and tear on his body while Josh has only played 10 games since 2013. Josh looked big last year at this time too. Once training camp gets underway - the combination of heat and the strength training transition to a maintenance phase should reduce the mass/weight a little.
I gave poor MJP a long winded reply that prolly had him snoring by the 2nd paragraph. The added muscle to Gordon over the last 2 years or so reminds me of TO/MeO. I don't think we'll see a decline in the speed/deep threat MJP and others are concerned about. If anything, we may see some better quicks out of stance and change of direction (especially if he's doing plyometrics).
David Boston was into steroids, right? That's probably one of the reasons his body completely broke down early. With Josh being the most tested athlete in the league (I assume), I can't imagine he would take something remotely controversial. Of course, I've been wrong before, LOL.
It's funny, the only player people are really talking about IS Josh Gordon. Reporters, players, analysts...they all are mesmerized by Gordon's combination of size, speed, and sticky hands. I've never seen anything like him. Additionally, even though Landry is traditionally a slot WR, I found it interesting that Todd Haley is lining him up at the outside, and using either Duke Johnson or Corey Coleman in the slot. We've got a lot of flexibility, and it feels rather strange to go from one extreme to the other.
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Do remember that the Browns need a serious stretch the field deep threat that can fight for the ball.......not fight Mike Tyson in a ring. Being in great shape is nice, being over muscled for a WR, DB even some other positions might have it's hot weather and gameday risks.
They need a gazelle not a tank.
Over doing it on the weights is the reason we see so many muscle tears now.
Over doing it on the weights is the reason we see so many muscle tears now.
Very true. That, and shortcuts in other parts of the strength and conditioning. Some of these guys blowoff stretching, warming up and hydrating sufficiently. I remember 1 time when this guy I called Exhale asked me "Aren't you going to warmup?" I said I'm all set I just scratched my nose.
Recuperation is one of the most underrated parts of getting bigger, faster and stronger. I learned that the hard way back in the day. The rookies never get the proper recuperation, which is why they hit the wall early (increasing their vulnerability to injury at the same time). Many go from Bowl Games to either the Senior Bowl or East-West Shrine Games to the Combines to their Pro Days to private workouts (for NFL teams) to however many mini-camps and OTAs that follow right after the draft. I really believe some of that is why Myles Garrett's bouts with the high ankle sprain lingered throughout last season. He didn't want to do the Pro Day after proving himself at the Combine but Jeff Fisher convinced him he needed to. I'm glad this off-season gave him a better opportunity to heal the ankle.
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Precisely! Plus I think that was after he had about 6 years of wear and tear on his body while Josh has only played 10 games since 2013. Josh looked big last year at this time too. Once training camp gets underway - the combination of heat and the strength training transition to a maintenance phase should reduce the mass/weight a little.
I gave poor MJP a long winded reply that prolly had him snoring by the 2nd paragraph. The added muscle to Gordon over the last 2 years or so reminds me of TO/MeO. I don't think we'll see a decline in the speed/deep threat MJP and others are concerned about. If anything, we may see some better quicks out of stance and change of direction (especially if he's doing plyometrics).
David Boston was into steroids, right? That's probably one of the reasons his body completely broke down early. With Josh being the most tested athlete in the league (I assume), I can't imagine he would take something remotely controversial. Of course, I've been wrong before, LOL.
It's funny, the only player people are really talking about IS Josh Gordon. Reporters, players, analysts...they all are mesmerized by Gordon's combination of size, speed, and sticky hands. I've never seen anything like him. Additionally, even though Landry is traditionally a slot WR, I found it interesting that Todd Haley is lining him up at the outside, and using either Duke Johnson or Corey Coleman in the slot. We've got a lot of flexibility, and it feels rather strange to go from one extreme to the other.
David Boston was into steroids, right? That's probably one of the reasons his body completely broke down early. With Josh being the most tested athlete in the league (I assume), I can't imagine he would take something remotely controversial. Of course, I've been wrong before, LOL.
It's funny, the only player people are really talking about IS Josh Gordon. Reporters, players, analysts...they all are mesmerized by Gordon's combination of size, speed, and sticky hands. I've never seen anything like him. Additionally, even though Landry is traditionally a slot WR, I found it interesting that Todd Haley is lining him up at the outside, and using either Duke Johnson or Corey Coleman in the slot. We've got a lot of flexibility, and it feels rather strange to go from one extreme to the other.
Good points. Another thing worth noting is our WR Coach was the position coach for Landry and Beckham at LSU. Maybe he's recommending/encouraging moving him around some.
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Josh Gordon thinks the Browns have the best wide receiving group in the NFL. . .
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Odell is no Flash. If they're healthy, Gordon all day.
He's roughly 4 inches taller and must be at least 30 lbs heavier right now. Probably faster than OBJ too. He's like a mini lebron. Just insane genetics. Hopefully he doesn't pop for peds.
Flash, Landry, Callaway, Njoku, Duke, janis, Coleman if he steps up... Devalve isn't bad either.
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well, God Bless Josh now, he seems to really have his mind and heart in a great place to be a success in his life.
This is going to be an exciting season for a lot of reasons, but that is the first time I heard Josh Gordon talk eloquently and with some serious wisdom.
He's going to be alright.
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well, God Bless Josh now, he seems to really have his mind and heart in a great place to be a success in his life.
This is going to be an exciting season for a lot of reasons, but that is the first time I heard Josh Gordon talk eloquently and with some serious wisdom.
He's going to be alright.
well, God Bless Josh now, he seems to really have his mind and heart in a great place to be a success in his life.
This is going to be an exciting season for a lot of reasons, but that is the first time I heard Josh Gordon talk eloquently and with some serious wisdom.
He's going to be alright.
You know what? Even if the unthinkable happens, and Josh relapses, I still think he'll be alright. He's in true addiction recovery, and as we all know, recovery usually isn't perfect and people make mistakes. The thing is, Josh is equipping himself for handling any possible failure, and would likely get right back on the sobriety train. I'm by no means saying Josh is going to use again this year, I'm simply stating that IF that were to happen, it wouldn't cost him his life because he's genuinely working on his treatment for the first time in his life.
How many of us experienced addiction (in its many forms) either personally or through a friend or family member? I'd say all of us, right? How many times did that person have to fail before they "got it"? How many of them sadly never did? And the thing is, how many of those people relapsed AFTER they "got it?" Quite a few, right? But when addicts are actively working on their recovery, they will spend less time using and they're more likely to get back to sobriety. I believe Josh is at this point, and it's to be celebrated.
I don't expect Josh to slip up and get suspended. I really don't. However, it would also be naive to expect everything to go perfectly. It would be absolutely devastating for Josh professionally and personally if he were to be suspended for another year, and this time...right now...is literally the most important 6 weeks of his entire life. He said he's staying in Cleveland to train and be with family. He needs to be off the radar completely, train hard, and stick to his treatment.
I don't believe people outside of Browns fans truly understand what Josh is capable of doing on the field. If he played with someone like Tom Brady for 16 games, it's likely he'd be around 2000 yards receiving. His ability to stretch the field and take any pass the distance make him a terror, and he's all but impossible to press cover due to his size. Perhaps his most lethal attributes are his hands, and they aren't talked about as much as his other alarming physical traits. Josh Gordon has about the softest freaking hands I've ever seen. They're giant and he's not afraid to pluck the ball out of the air while running full speed. He rarely "body catches" the rock, and he can make a variety of different catches. If he has a drop, it's generally a focus issue, but drops aren't really a concern. Most importantly, Josh shows terrific ability in both tracking the long ball, and securing the catch. Watch that amazing bomb against Pittsburgh last year as the perfect example of what I'm saying.
I've always felt a special connection with Josh. I work with homeless military vets, many of which suffer from addiction. I see everyday the devastation it causes to everyone in the addict's world. I've seen my share of heartbreak, but I've also seen successes, people working through tragedy, and regaining their lives. I want so very much to see Josh enjoy success, to be there for his family, and realize his potential. Very few things in life are as tragic as squandered potential. Conversely, nothing is more inspiring than a man overcoming his demons and prevailing over such a merciless foe. I only wish I could personally tell him just how much we're rooting for him, on and off the field.
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Speaking of WRs aside from Josh, have you guys been listening to the Browns Daily show? The WR garnering the most attention isn't Josh, it's Jarvis Landry. Everyday. Every practice. The one name brought up time and again is Landry's. Apparently he catches everything, and by now I'm sure you all have seen his one-handed TD catch against Denzel Ward. Ward had essentially perfect coverage, but Tyrod put the rock in the one place it could be caught, and Jarvis made the catch to cheers and applause. Not only that, but apparently Tyrod and Jarvis already have a special connection, and they look like they've been together for years. As freaky as Josh is, Landry is very likely to lead us in both receptions and yards. He's a 1st down machine, and somebody who will move the chains every Sunday.
The guy you aren't hearing much from is Corey Coleman, and that's both a good and bad thing. It's bad in that you'd LIKE to hear more about the plays he's making, but it's also good because there's nothing negative either. Corey is showing up and doing what he's supposed to, and he's also the recipient of some major luck. What luck? Well, Antonio Callaway is a guy who immediately earned rave reviews the second he got onto the field. He looked fast, smooth, and extremely dangerous. He had the look of someone who could take Corey's job. The LUCK I mention is Callaway got a minor groin pull which has kept him sidelined the past few weeks. This provided Corey with nobody nipping at his heels, guaranteed 1st team reps in 3 WR sets, and valuable time with Tyrod. Additionally, Corey has avoided the soft muscle injuries that plagued him forever. Believe it or not, Corey Coleman is the secret to our offense. SO MUCH attention will have to paid to both Jarvis and Josh, which means Corey will be the guy getting covered by defense's 3rd corner. That's a match-up a 1st round pick HAS to win, and if he does, our offense will be all but impossible to match up with.
Finally, watch out for Rashard Higgins as the dark horse. Apparently he's looked good and is a sneaky route runner. He'll make the team and be a stand out in the preseason, trust me. Also, our rookie Ratley is making some plays, especially when out there with Baker. Time to get excited.
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Speaking of WRs aside from Josh, have you guys been listening to the Browns Daily show? The WR garnering the most attention isn't Josh, it's Jarvis Landry. Everyday. Every practice. The one name brought up time and again is Landry's. Apparently he catches everything, and by now I'm sure you all have seen his one-handed TD catch against Denzel Ward. Ward had essentially perfect coverage, but Tyrod put the rock in the one place it could be caught, and Jarvis made the catch to cheers and applause. Not only that, but apparently Tyrod and Jarvis already have a special connection, and they look like they've been together for years. As freaky as Josh is, Landry is very likely to lead us in both receptions and yards. He's a 1st down machine, and somebody who will move the chains every Sunday.
The guy you aren't hearing much from is Corey Coleman, and that's both a good and bad thing. It's bad in that you'd LIKE to hear more about the plays he's making, but it's also good because there's nothing negative either. Corey is showing up and doing what he's supposed to, and he's also the recipient of some major luck. What luck? Well, Antonio Callaway is a guy who immediately earned rave reviews the second he got onto the field. He looked fast, smooth, and extremely dangerous. He had the look of someone who could take Corey's job. The LUCK I mention is Callaway got a minor groin pull which has kept him sidelined the past few weeks. This provided Corey with nobody nipping at his heels, guaranteed 1st team reps in 3 WR sets, and valuable time with Tyrod. Additionally, Corey has avoided the soft muscle injuries that plagued him forever. Believe it or not, Corey Coleman is the secret to our offense. SO MUCH attention will have to paid to both Jarvis and Josh, which means Corey will be the guy getting covered by defense's 3rd corner. That's a match-up a 1st round pick HAS to win, and if he does, our offense will be all but impossible to match up with.
Finally, watch out for Rashard Higgins as the dark horse. Apparently he's looked good and is a sneaky route runner. He'll make the team and be a stand out in the preseason, trust me. Also, our rookie Ratley is making some plays, especially when out there with Baker. Time to get excited.
Corey Coleman is the secret to our offense
Coleman dropped the ball that cost us the game against the Steelers last year. He drops balls...and he drops them in the clutch. He can't be counted on. I've moved on from him. Go Callaway!
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Corey Coleman is the secret to our offense
Coleman dropped the ball that cost us the game against the Steelers last year. He drops balls...and he drops them in the clutch. He can't be counted on. I've moved on from him. Go Callaway!
Coleman dropped the ball that cost us the game against the Steelers last year. He drops balls...and he drops them in the clutch. He can't be counted on. I've moved on from him. Go Callaway!
Corey had two awful drops. Career defining drops, and there's no arguing with that. Other than that, he really didn't have many drops. In fact, he was generally the only WR who could make a difficult catch. SO MANY balls thrown by Kizer were off target, and I can think of multiple diving catches he made where he really shouldn't have HAD to dive. Several of those coming on 3rd down. Has Corey lived up to being the 1st WR drafted? Heck no. Not even CLOSE.
However, I've heard that WR is one of the most difficult positions in the NFL for young players to learn. Making matters worse, Corey had RG III, Cody Kessler, Kevin Hogan, and Deshone Kizer throwing him the pill. Not exactly the "who's who" of NFL signal callers. Making matters SOMEHOW even worse, Corey played with virtually no other receiving threats, save a few games with Josh. That's not a combination for success.
Am I making excuses for him? Possibly. But I'm also rather bullish on NOT giving up on 1st round picks. Wide receivers depend on other positions perhaps more than anyone else. Let's see what Corey looks like with a real team around him and two hands that AREN'T broken. He'll have every opportunity, so if he fails now, we'll know for sure.
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Coleman dropped the ball that cost us the game against the Steelers last year. He drops balls...and he drops them in the clutch. He can't be counted on. I've moved on from him. Go Callaway!
Corey had two awful drops. Career defining drops, and there's no arguing with that. Other than that, he really didn't have many drops. In fact, he was generally the only WR who could make a difficult catch. SO MANY balls thrown by Kizer were off target, and I can think of multiple diving catches he made where he really shouldn't have HAD to dive. Several of those coming on 3rd down. Has Corey lived up to being the 1st WR drafted? Heck no. Not even CLOSE.
However, I've heard that WR is one of the most difficult positions in the NFL for young players to learn. Making matters worse, Corey had RG III, Cody Kessler, Kevin Hogan, and Deshone Kizer throwing him the pill. Not exactly the "who's who" of NFL signal callers. Making matters SOMEHOW even worse, Corey played with virtually no other receiving threats, save a few games with Josh. That's not a combination for success.
Am I making excuses for him? Possibly. But I'm also rather bullish on NOT giving up on 1st round picks. Wide receivers depend on other positions perhaps more than anyone else. Let's see what Corey looks like with a real team around him and two hands that AREN'T broken. He'll have every opportunity, so if he fails now, we'll know for sure.
Corey had two awful drops. Career defining drops, and there's no arguing with that. Other than that, he really didn't have many drops. In fact, he was generally the only WR who could make a difficult catch. SO MANY balls thrown by Kizer were off target, and I can think of multiple diving catches he made where he really shouldn't have HAD to dive. Several of those coming on 3rd down. Has Corey lived up to being the 1st WR drafted? Heck no. Not even CLOSE.
However, I've heard that WR is one of the most difficult positions in the NFL for young players to learn. Making matters worse, Corey had RG III, Cody Kessler, Kevin Hogan, and Deshone Kizer throwing him the pill. Not exactly the "who's who" of NFL signal callers. Making matters SOMEHOW even worse, Corey played with virtually no other receiving threats, save a few games with Josh. That's not a combination for success.
Am I making excuses for him? Possibly. But I'm also rather bullish on NOT giving up on 1st round picks. Wide receivers depend on other positions perhaps more than anyone else. Let's see what Corey looks like with a real team around him and two hands that AREN'T broken. He'll have every opportunity, so if he fails now, we'll know for sure.
Well said Jigs. Like Baker Mayfield is learning, routes are a lot more contested at the NFL level than the Big 12 so the learning curve you spoke of takes time. My 2 biggest concerns with Coleman are - can the bad habit of body catching be corrected or is it now instinctive to the extent of beyond repair? Greg Little was a body catcher; which made him look like Danny Ferry trying to catch a ball in traffic as opposed to Antonio Brown or others with better habits perfected. And, can a pass dropper be cured any easier than a QB that isn't accurate? The inventory doesn't look good but we haven't exactly had Tom Brady chucking strikes and throwing people open here.
As you said, the drop against Pittsburgh came at the worst time so it's all people are going to remember him by. Having said that, I posted a 2017 chart below of all those that led the league in dropped passes. If the chart loses form, to your point - it shows Coleman only had 3 other drops beside the 1 our fans will never forget. Unfortunately, he has the 2nd lowest drop per target% which can be skewed to his volume and the type of passing we couldn't wait to replace. If Gordon and Landry ease his matchups to the opponents' 3rd best corner every week; while a more experienced/accurate QB leads him to more YAC than YUCK - maybe he'll remind us of some of the things that once earned him a Biletnikoff Award.
RECEIVING GP Rec Yds Avg Yds/G YAC TD Lng Big 100+ Tgt Drop Pct Fum FumL 1st Pct 14 56 702 12.5 50.1 283 3 45 3 0 96 8 58.3% 1 0 40 71.4% 16 83 949 11.4 59.3 295 5 40 5 1 140 7 59.3% 1 1 53 63.9% 16 57 520 9.1 32.5 204 10 33 4 0 96 7 59.4% 0 0 32 56.1% 16 88 1444 16.4 90.3 504 3 53 15 4 148 7 59.5% 0 0 67 76.1% 16 69 838 12.1 52.4 281 6 50 6 0 132 6 52.3% 1 1 44 63.8% 15 67 703 10.5 46.9 245 5 25 1 0 96 6 69.8% 0 0 41 61.2% 16 44 703 16.0 43.9 127 6 61 8 1 80 6 55.0% 0 0 33 75.0% 16 59 350 5.9 21.9 351 0 18 0 0 88 6 67.0% 0 0 17 28.8% 16 54 688 12.7 43.0 230 2 35 6 2 86 5 62.8% 1 1 35 64.8% 14 58 618 10.7 44.1 179 8 41 5 0 101 5 57.4% 1 0 35 60.3% 13 49 558 11.4 42.9 263 2 44 5 1 74 5 66.2% 1 0 29 59.2% 15 83 1038 12.5 69.2 439 8 44 9 4 122 5 68.0% 0 0 55 66.3% 16 91 1276 14.0 79.8 439 4 65 11 4 142 5 64.1% 3 2 59 64.8% 14 74 885 12.0 63.2 349 10 55 7 1 117 5 63.2% 0 0 45 60.8% 14 48 680 14.2 48.6 305 7 87 6 2 96 5 50.0% 1 0 28 58.3% 16 58 476 8.2 29.8 503 4 49 2 0 83 5 69.9% 0 0 22 37.9% 16 27 357 13.2 22.3 90 0 37 4 0 61 5 44.3% 0 0 18 66.7% 16 23 125 5.4 7.8 158 0 12 0 0 32 5 71.9% 0 0 4 17.4% 15 64 722 11.3 48.1 288 6 35 7 0 115 5 55.7% 0 0 37 57.8% 15 62 869 14.0 57.9 367 5 64 6 2 94 5 66.0% 1 1 42 67.7% 15 43 515 12.0 34.3 281 2 44 4 1 63 5 68.3% 0 0 22 51.2% 16 21 180 8.6 11.3 167 1 32 1 0 36 5 58.3% 0 0 9 42.9% 16 24 318 13.3 19.9 156 5 37 2 0 48 4 50.0% 0 0 18 75.0% 10 11 70 6.4 7.0 58 0 13 0 0 19 4 57.9% 0 0 3 27.3% 15 8 52 6.5 3.5 69 1 21 0 0 15 4 53.3% 0 0 2 25.0% 15 61 659 10.8 43.9 206 2 27 4 1 86 4 70.9% 1 0 40 65.6% 16 59 448 7.6 28.0 424 2 39 1 0 77 4 76.6% 0 0 23 39.0% 16 75 1078 14.4 67.4 282 8 77 6 3 142 4 52.8% 2 2 55 73.3% 16 36 430 11.9 26.9 133 2 59 3 1 68 4 52.9% 0 0 11 30.6% 16 65 810 12.5 50.6 303 5 51 6 2 102 4 63.7% 1 0 37 56.9% 11 9 84 9.3 7.6 64 0 17 0 0 18 4 50.0% 0 0 6 66.7% 16 56 962 17.2 60.1 209 2 83 7 3 105 4 53.3% 0 0 46 82.1% 16 43 389 9.1 24.3 436 2 61 3 0 60 4 71.7% 0 0 16 37.2% 15 80 690 8.6 46.0 355 4 26 1 1 108 4 74.1% 2 2 34 42.5% 12 39 369 9.5 30.8 273 0 29 1 0 59 4 66.1% 0 0 16 41.0% 15 85 655 7.7 43.7 688 2 42 3 1 106 4 80.2% 1 0 31 36.5% 15 96 1378 14.4 91.9 297 13 72 17 5 174 4 55.2% 1 1 69 71.9% 4 25 302 12.1 75.5 60 3 48 2 0 41 4 61.0% 0 0 15 60.0% 16 65 1082 16.7 67.6 243 7 64 15 2 114 4 57.0% 0 0 42 64.6% 14 36 317 8.8 22.6 256 1 29 2 0 47 4 76.6% 0 0 18 50.0% 15 50 603 12.1 40.2 182 3 51 4 0 84 4 59.5% 0 0 30 60.0% 13 42 554 13.2 42.6 323 3 63 3 1 62 4 67.7% 0 0 32 76.2% 11 10 77 7.7 7.0 9 0 14 0 0 35 4 28.6% 0 0 3 30.0% 16 42 404 9.6 25.3 160 7 59 1 0 62 4 67.7% 0 0 23 54.8% 15 66 789 12.0 52.6 363 3 41 9 2 103 4 64.1% 1 0 37 56.1% 9 23 305 13.3 33.9 29 2 44 1 0 58 4 39.7% 0 0 17 73.9% 11 59 731 12.4 66.5 316 2 77 5 3 84 4 70.2% 1 0 36 61.0% 16 43 648 15.1 40.5 307 3 69 8 0 69 3 62.3% 2 2 23 53.5% 16 74 807 10.9 50.4 249 3 42 3 0 111 3 66.7% 2 2 43 58.1% 15 20 151 7.6 10.1 168 0 25 1 0 31 3 64.5% 0 0 6 30.0% -
We've literally never seen Corey Coleman get the ball in space, and it's something that boggles the mind. I can't think of ONE slant he caught where he zipped down the field, or one pass he caught where he was in full stride and he made some people miss for a big gainer. This is what Corey DID in college, yet somehow he hasn't shown ONE flash of it. It's really crazy when you consider just how many huge plays he had in college.
As for Josh Gordon, it's safe to say these next 6 weeks are the biggest 42 days of his entire life. He's away from practice, the facility, and his schedule. "Free time" is an addict's worst nightmare, and while I seriously doubt he'll be indulging in too much "free time", I'm still checking my phone every single day to see that negative Josh Gordon headline. Now, I SERIOUSLY doubt Josh will have an issue, but we've been burned so many times that i won't feel completely better until training camp begins and I see him in PADS.
Also, I'm not sure all of our fans truly understand how good Jarvis Landry is, and it's interesting to note that the guy we hear about in OTA's isn't Gordon, but Landry. I loved reading how he's immediately developing chemistry with Tyrod. I see lots of first downs from these two, and that makes me happy. Josh Gordon, Jarvis Landry, Corey Coleman, Antonio Callaway, Duke Johnson, David Njoku, Carlos Hyde, Nick Chubb, and last but not least....Seth Devalve. We now have depth, experience, and speed. Keep an eye on Devalve....I think he's a sneaky weapon.
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The fact that Coleman’s still on the team indicates he’s tentatively in the plans this year. It’s not like the new decision makers have been shy about cutting or trading people.
All l know is that Coleman has shown the ability to make some really good catches. Question is can he make them consistantly and when it really matters? Remains to be seen, but l squarely think there’s more to gain by giving him a shot than not.
New QBs on this team, and you never know who Tyrod or Baker will find their chemical groove with, so why not throw them on a grid with wideouts who have at least shown some potential and see where the cards fall?
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I have no proof of this, but it wouldn't surprise me to hear we tried to trade Corey during the offseason. I don't think anything materialized because of his low production, weird injury history, and the fact we would've gotten squat for him, but I'm pretty sure we had feelers out there. For example, can you imagine Corey Coleman playing with Tom Brady? Now, to be fair, you can probably say that with just about ANY wide receiver in the league, but still, Corey is EXACTLY the type of receiver the Patriots favor, and I'd actually love to see what Corey can do with an accurate passer and someone that can get him the ball in stride.
I'm very interested to see what our offense will look like this season, and we all know we're going to hear the "we're going to run the ball!" talk, but we can't run the ball if we're down 17 points in the first half of every game. Now, I predict we'll be a much better TEAM this year, and I don't THINK we'll be down 17 in the first half too many times, but we do start the year with the Steelers and then at the Saints, so getting down early is a very real possibility. I'd love nothing more than to see us be a running football team. I'd have no problem with Tyrod Taylor finishing games with stats like, 17-24 for 170 yards, 2 TDs and no picks. In fact, I think that's what we're going to WANT. Of course, this is assuming we can get around 140 yards rushing a game, and our defense actually forces some FG's instead of giving up 7 every time. I don't see us being "explosive", despite the oddly talented and deep weapons we now have in the cupboard. We'll be a grinding team, and that can work if we run the ball and stop people. (take a look at our RB group. I mean, our top 3 backs are pretty solid, and could even be spectacular if Chubb blows up)
Of course, I could be wrong and we may zing it all over the field and score a bunch of points, or we could completely suck and get stomped like we did last year. We could be behind in every game and Tyrod might be finishing with stats like 28-44, 315 yards with 2 TDs and a pick, with another rushing score....but we still lose 30-24 because our defense sucks. We'll know soon, LOL.
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