Former Brown Winslow arrested for burglary
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Very sad to see this...Now when I think of this.. and the stupid bike stuff.. And then I think of how Big Ben could've been drafted by the Browns.. BUT! BUT! BUT! the great Andrew "Butch" Davis intervened.. And drafted "WIN-SLOW"... There's that sound that goes "THUD" And your heart sinks back to reality.. But this year figures to be different.. "fingers crossed"
Nick, I hope you are right. I have always maintained that the reason the Browns continue to suck is that they have purposely refused to participate in drafting the very top tier playmakers. Winslow, Manziel, Quinn, and we refuse Big Ben, Petersen, Wenz, and on it goes. I want this team to win, because honestly another losing season pretty much will have me bored to death. My interest is on its last leg as it is.
If I am being honest, I believe the Browns completely fukced up another draft. I believe the proper draft was Barkley at #1, and whichever of the three 6"5" top QBs was left at #4. My gut tells me this is going to be another year of watching the guys we didn't take run wild. Sadly, if we do blow this again, it's time to find a new team No more "rebuilding" for me.
Nick, I hope you are right. I have always maintained that the reason the Browns continue to suck is that they have purposely refused to participate in drafting the very top tier playmakers. Winslow, Manziel, Quinn, and we refuse Big Ben, Petersen, Wenz, and on it goes. I want this team to win, because honestly another losing season pretty much will have me bored to death. My interest is on its last leg as it is.
If I am being honest, I believe the Browns completely fukced up another draft. I believe the proper draft was Barkley at #1, and whichever of the three 6"5" top QBs was left at #4. My gut tells me this is going to be another year of watching the guys we didn't take run wild. Sadly, if we do blow this again, it's time to find a new team No more "rebuilding" for me.
Well Tom..
One can only go on so long bitching about the team,etc. At some point the pendulum , does swing your way... Eventually.. As long as Hue just plays team administrator.. I'm cool with that as long as he's letting the Coaches, coach.. Staying out of team scouts way. And Jimmy and Dee follow suit... I'm not that big a Barkley fan..... I thought Rashaad Penny looked a litt better.. But.. I think this kid Nick Chubb we drafted , could be special... He's elusive as hell.. Hes gonna have get up to NFL shape.. But once he does,,, I think this kid can do well for us...Baker seems to be doing well... I'm expecting this team to be fun to watch...
EDIT: Next time Training Camp resumes , they do it in pads!!!.. Then we'll see what we've got!
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What a jackoff his Father must be. LOL. Father day present... Hey KW Sr., how do you feel about your Son's aspirations to take penis in his soldier asss? LMAO. LMAO. Applauding what has happened to this kid. LMAO................We traded UP to get him. LMAO.
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I believe the proper draft was Barkley at #1
It's June 2018. What's different now than it was in June 2012 when we drafted Trent Richardson? (you have to put Richardson's failure out of your mind....because we're comparing now to June 2012)
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Butch Davis was lousy. He drafted Gerard Big Money Warren, when all the scouts told him Richard Seymour was the pick. And he drafted Winslow...who had a 15 yard unsportsman-like penalty in just about every game he ever played. He was a dope then and a dope now.
It's June 2018. What's different now than it was in June 2012 when we drafted Trent Richardson? (you have to put Richardson's failure out of your mind....because we're comparing now to June 2012)
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Butch Davis was lousy. He drafted Gerard Big Money Warren, when all the scouts told him Richard Seymour was the pick. And he drafted Winslow...who had a 15 yard unsportsman-like penalty in just about every game he ever played. He was a dope then and a dope now.
I didn't want Trent Richardson. I hated that Shmucking pick. When I quoted Jim Brown as saying Trent was ordinary, you guys went ballistic. Really, you guys are fukcking jackoffs. There is no commonality between Barkley and Richardson. Nothing at all. Oh, they played the same positions? Ahhhhh... I see, so as long as you draft someone at a position, it doens't matter how well they play, all that matters is that you can come back and say.... hey, we tried a RB before it didn't work. SO then, why draft a QB? We did that before, too.
Again, I am past the annual "I told you so" of all the years past. THere is no more fun watching you guys run and hide after this board is flooded with " Ghoolie Was Right Again" posts.
Saying that Dosey "nailed it" before a single game is played, is just more annual browns fans arrogant, self-important BS of "we are way smarter than the rest of the teams", only to watch Big Ben, Wenz, Petersen etc etc etc help their team win while we go 1 - 31. I support Dorsey because honestly, at 0 - 8, I will be bored out of Browns town.
If it were my team, I would have drafted the best player first, and taken one of the even money BIG QBs at #4. My beef with this franchise is that they purposely refrain from taking the top playmakers in the draft.
We will see if Dorsey knows something I don't.
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It's June 2018. What's different now than it was in June 2012 when we drafted Trent Richardson? (you have to put Richardson's failure out of your mind....because we're comparing now to June 2012)
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Butch Davis was lousy. He drafted Gerard Big Money Warren, when all the scouts told him Richard Seymour was the pick. And he drafted Winslow...who had a 15 yard unsportsman-like penalty in just about every game he ever played. He was a dope then and a dope now.
I didn't want Trent Richardson. I hated that Shmucking pick. When I quoted Jim Brown as saying Trent was ordinary, you guys went ballistic. Really, you guys are fukcking jackoffs. There is no commonality between Barkley and Richardson. Nothing at all. Oh, they played the same positions? Ahhhhh... I see, so as long as you draft someone at a position, it doens't matter how well they play, all that matters is that you can come back and say.... hey, we tried a RB before it didn't work. SO then, why draft a QB? We did that before, too.
Again, I am past the annual "I told you so" of all the years past. THere is no more fun watching you guys run and hide after this board is flooded with " Ghoolie Was Right Again" posts.
Saying that Dosey "nailed it" before a single game is played, is just more annual browns fans arrogant, self-important BS of "we are way smarter than the rest of the teams", only to watch Big Ben, Wenz, Petersen etc etc etc help their team win while we go 1 - 31. I support Dorsey because honestly, at 0 - 8, I will be bored out of Browns town.
If it were my team, I would have drafted the best player first, and taken one of the even money BIG QBs at #4. My beef with this franchise is that they purposely refrain from taking the top playmakers in the draft.
We will see if Dorsey knows something I don't.
I didn't want Trent Richardson. I hated that Shmucking pick. When I quoted Jim Brown as saying Trent was ordinary, you guys went ballistic
ok. I wasn't on this board back then. I had no clue of your take on Richardson before he played a down with us. But I can tell you this, I don't value the RB position as highly as you do......because I live in New England and have watched the Patriots win super bowls with washed up RB's. I view the league as an offensive, passing league first and foremost.
....oh, and when Richardson started out pretty good with us, Jim Brown changed his tune into, "I see some of myself in Trent Richardson." Perhaps he was talking about his (Jim's) non willingness to block.
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I didn't want Trent Richardson. I hated that Shmucking pick. When I quoted Jim Brown as saying Trent was ordinary, you guys went ballistic
ok. I wasn't on this board back then. I had no clue of your take on Richardson before he played a down with us. But I can tell you this, I don't value the RB position as highly as you do......because I live in New England and have watched the Patriots win super bowls with washed up RB's. I view the league as an offensive, passing league first and foremost.
....oh, and when Richardson started out pretty good with us, Jim Brown changed his tune into, "I see some of myself in Trent Richardson." Perhaps he was talking about his (Jim's) non willingness to block.
ok. I wasn't on this board back then. I had no clue of your take on Richardson before he played a down with us. But I can tell you this, I don't value the RB position as highly as you do......because I live in New England and have watched the Patriots win super bowls with washed up RB's. I view the league as an offensive, passing league first and foremost.
....oh, and when Richardson started out pretty good with us, Jim Brown changed his tune into, "I see some of myself in Trent Richardson." Perhaps he was talking about his (Jim's) non willingness to block.
I think Jim was merely being kind and politically correct. He couldn't very well dis the kid after we drafted him. New England has lost a bunch of SB's too, so, that passing game isn't all it's cracked up to be?
Look, here is what you young pups and zealots continue to miss, year after year after year. Whatever football is today..............a passing game, a running game. it always changes, always has, always will....and, great players can change the game. They always have, and always will.
I can tell you this much, a human being, with talent and drive from God, will, 100% of the time, make you analytical, buzzword experts look like jackoffs. Barkley is that caliber of player. When a guy like him comes along, all the draft analysis goes out the window, and you take him. Case in point.................... If you didn't know the story, and I told you that a head coach with Jim Brown on his team, used a #1 pick to go get a Rookie FB, you would go on and on and on with analytics, and bullschidt about how you don't draft a RB when you have a great one.
BUT.............you would be, as you are now, wrong.....100% wrong......... That is Exactly what Paul Brown Did. Gee Orion, if you were around back then you could have given your draft analysis bullschidt to PB and taught him something.
Sorry man, it doens't fukcing matter who is own your team, when you have a chance to take Barkley.....you don't take Baker................. WHO BY THE WAY.......would have been available at 4.
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And Jim Brown won nothing until the Browns put a high-performance passing attack around him with Frank Ryan throwing to Gary Collins and Paul Warfield.
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ok. I wasn't on this board back then. I had no clue of your take on Richardson before he played a down with us. But I can tell you this, I don't value the RB position as highly as you do......because I live in New England and have watched the Patriots win super bowls with washed up RB's. I view the league as an offensive, passing league first and foremost.
....oh, and when Richardson started out pretty good with us, Jim Brown changed his tune into, "I see some of myself in Trent Richardson." Perhaps he was talking about his (Jim's) non willingness to block.
I think Jim was merely being kind and politically correct. He couldn't very well dis the kid after we drafted him. New England has lost a bunch of SB's too, so, that passing game isn't all it's cracked up to be?
Look, here is what you young pups and zealots continue to miss, year after year after year. Whatever football is today..............a passing game, a running game. it always changes, always has, always will....and, great players can change the game. They always have, and always will.
I can tell you this much, a human being, with talent and drive from God, will, 100% of the time, make you analytical, buzzword experts look like jackoffs. Barkley is that caliber of player. When a guy like him comes along, all the draft analysis goes out the window, and you take him. Case in point.................... If you didn't know the story, and I told you that a head coach with Jim Brown on his team, used a #1 pick to go get a Rookie FB, you would go on and on and on with analytics, and bullschidt about how you don't draft a RB when you have a great one.
BUT.............you would be, as you are now, wrong.....100% wrong......... That is Exactly what Paul Brown Did. Gee Orion, if you were around back then you could have given your draft analysis bullschidt to PB and taught him something.
Sorry man, it doens't fukcing matter who is own your team, when you have a chance to take Barkley.....you don't take Baker................. WHO BY THE WAY.......would have been available at 4.
If you didn't know the story, and I told you that a head coach with Jim Brown on his team, used a #1 pick to go get a Rookie FB,
TOTALLY different era. An era of if your weren't good enough to play offense, you played defense. An era when you could run power sweeps.
We're in a new century now. Come join us. (and still, our '64 championship was won with 3 TD passes)
...and the Patriots were going to trade with the Giants if Baker was there to draft.......and the Cards were going to trade with us at #4 but only if Baker was there (not if Barkley was there).
Do I know if Baker is going to be great? No. My crystal ball doesn't work too well.
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And Jim Brown won nothing until the Browns put a high-performance passing attack around him with Frank Ryan throwing to Gary Collins and Paul Warfield.
And Jim Brown won nothing until the Browns put a high-performance passing attack around him with Frank Ryan throwing to Gary Collins and Paul Warfield.
Well Jim Brown did win 8 of 9 NFL rushing titles during his reign but yes only ONE ring......before he decided to go play army man in the Dirty Dozen.
The Packers and Colts basically crowded him out of any shot at more titles. It's both who you play and when you play that can determine how many championships you get a shot at in any sport.
GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND! -
And Jim Brown won nothing until the Browns put a high-performance passing attack around him with Frank Ryan throwing to Gary Collins and Paul Warfield.
Well Jim Brown did win 8 of 9 NFL rushing titles during his reign but yes only ONE ring......before he decided to go play army man in the Dirty Dozen.
The Packers and Colts basically crowded him out of any shot at more titles. It's both who you play and when you play that can determine how many championships you get a shot at in any sport.
The Packers and Colts basically crowded him out of any shot at more titles. It's both who you play and when you play that can determine how many championships you get a shot at in any sport.
There is that! We got screwed by the Steelers and Broncos when we had Kosar.
.....and it was the Packers & Cowboys.....we beat the Colts.
- using my brand new laptop right now. just got it set up. isn't it great? (my Vaio crapped out a couple of weeks ago)
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And Jim Brown won nothing until the Browns put a high-performance passing attack around him with Frank Ryan throwing to Gary Collins and Paul Warfield.
Well Jim Brown did win 8 of 9 NFL rushing titles during his reign but yes only ONE ring......before he decided to go play army man in the Dirty Dozen.
The Packers and Colts basically crowded him out of any shot at more titles. It's both who you play and when you play that can determine how many championships you get a shot at in any sport.
Well Jim Brown did win 8 of 9 NFL rushing titles during his reign but yes only ONE ring......before he decided to go play army man in the Dirty Dozen.
The Packers and Colts basically crowded him out of any shot at more titles. It's both who you play and when you play that can determine how many championships you get a shot at in any sport.
I said it a bunch of times to the guys who wanted us to draft Barkley. RBs don't win championships, at least not many unless they have a great team around them like Emmett Smith.
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Well Jim Brown did win 8 of 9 NFL rushing titles during his reign but yes only ONE ring......before he decided to go play army man in the Dirty Dozen.
The Packers and Colts basically crowded him out of any shot at more titles. It's both who you play and when you play that can determine how many championships you get a shot at in any sport.
I said it a bunch of times to the guys who wanted us to draft Barkley. RBs don't win championships, at least not many unless they have a great team around them like Emmett Smith.
I said it a bunch of times to the guys who wanted us to draft Barkley. RBs don't win championships, at least not many unless they have a great team around them like Emmett Smith.
The Browns can't even win a fukcking game.
The Cleveland Browns have the hardest hit players in the NFL -
The Packers and Colts basically crowded him out of any shot at more titles. It's both who you play and when you play that can determine how many championships you get a shot at in any sport.
There is that! We got screwed by the Steelers and Broncos when we had Kosar.
.....and it was the Packers & Cowboys.....we beat the Colts.
- using my brand new laptop right now. just got it set up. isn't it great? (my Vaio crapped out a couple of weeks ago)
There is that! We got screwed by the Steelers and Broncos when we had Kosar.
.....and it was the Packers & Cowboys.....we beat the Colts.
- using my brand new laptop right now. just got it set up. isn't it great? (my Vaio crapped out a couple of weeks ago)
NFL Championships in the Jim Brown era, I was ages 6 to 14 back them I remember the later years!
1957 NFL Detroit Lions (4) 59–14 Cleveland Browns Briggs Stadium 55,263 1958 NFL Baltimore Colts (1) 23–17 (OT) New York Giants Yankee Stadium 64,185 1959 NFL Baltimore Colts (2) 31–16 New York Giants Memorial Stadium 57,545 1960 NFL Philadelphia Eagles (3) 17–13 Green Bay Packers Franklin Field 67,325 1961 NFL Green Bay Packers (7) 37–0 New York Giants "New" City Stadium 39,029 1962 NFL Green Bay Packers (8) 16–7 New York Giants Yankee Stadium 64,892 1963 NFL Chicago Bears (8) 14–10 New York Giants Wrigley Field 45,801 1964 NFL Cleveland Browns (4) 27–0 Baltimore Colts Cleveland Municipal Stadium 79,544 1965 NFL Green Bay Packers (9) 23–12 Cleveland Browns Lambeau Field 50,777 The BROWNS were champions once and runnerup twice.
And look at the NY football Giants the Buffalo Bills of their day. The Cowboys, Raiders, Broncos -and- Steelers and others weren't in the picture yet.
GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND! -
There is that! We got screwed by the Steelers and Broncos when we had Kosar.
.....and it was the Packers & Cowboys.....we beat the Colts.
- using my brand new laptop right now. just got it set up. isn't it great? (my Vaio crapped out a couple of weeks ago)
NFL Championships in the Jim Brown era, I was ages 6 to 14 back them I remember the later years!
1957 NFL Detroit Lions (4) 59–14 Cleveland Browns Briggs Stadium 55,263 1958 NFL Baltimore Colts (1) 23–17 (OT) New York Giants Yankee Stadium 64,185 1959 NFL Baltimore Colts (2) 31–16 New York Giants Memorial Stadium 57,545 1960 NFL Philadelphia Eagles (3) 17–13 Green Bay Packers Franklin Field 67,325 1961 NFL Green Bay Packers (7) 37–0 New York Giants "New" City Stadium 39,029 1962 NFL Green Bay Packers (8) 16–7 New York Giants Yankee Stadium 64,892 1963 NFL Chicago Bears (8) 14–10 New York Giants Wrigley Field 45,801 1964 NFL Cleveland Browns (4) 27–0 Baltimore Colts Cleveland Municipal Stadium 79,544 1965 NFL Green Bay Packers (9) 23–12 Cleveland Browns Lambeau Field 50,777 The BROWNS were champions once and runnerup twice.
And look at the NY football Giants the Buffalo Bills of their day. The Cowboys, Raiders, Broncos -and- Steelers and others weren't in the picture yet.
NFL Championships in the Jim Brown era, I was ages 6 to 14 back them I remember the later years!
1957 NFL Detroit Lions (4) 59–14 Cleveland Browns Briggs Stadium 55,263 1958 NFL Baltimore Colts (1) 23–17 (OT) New York Giants Yankee Stadium 64,185 1959 NFL Baltimore Colts (2) 31–16 New York Giants Memorial Stadium 57,545 1960 NFL Philadelphia Eagles (3) 17–13 Green Bay Packers Franklin Field 67,325 1961 NFL Green Bay Packers (7) 37–0 New York Giants "New" City Stadium 39,029 1962 NFL Green Bay Packers (8) 16–7 New York Giants Yankee Stadium 64,892 1963 NFL Chicago Bears (8) 14–10 New York Giants Wrigley Field 45,801 1964 NFL Cleveland Browns (4) 27–0 Baltimore Colts Cleveland Municipal Stadium 79,544 1965 NFL Green Bay Packers (9) 23–12 Cleveland Browns Lambeau Field 50,777 The BROWNS were champions once and runnerup twice.
And look at the NY football Giants the Buffalo Bills of their day. The Cowboys, Raiders, Broncos -and- Steelers and others weren't in the picture yet.
The Steelers certainly were "in the picture" in that they did exist....but they just sucked.
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NFL Championships in the Jim Brown era, I was ages 6 to 14 back them I remember the later years!
1957 NFL Detroit Lions (4) 59–14 Cleveland Browns Briggs Stadium 55,263 1958 NFL Baltimore Colts (1) 23–17 (OT) New York Giants Yankee Stadium 64,185 1959 NFL Baltimore Colts (2) 31–16 New York Giants Memorial Stadium 57,545 1960 NFL Philadelphia Eagles (3) 17–13 Green Bay Packers Franklin Field 67,325 1961 NFL Green Bay Packers (7) 37–0 New York Giants "New" City Stadium 39,029 1962 NFL Green Bay Packers (8) 16–7 New York Giants Yankee Stadium 64,892 1963 NFL Chicago Bears (8) 14–10 New York Giants Wrigley Field 45,801 1964 NFL Cleveland Browns (4) 27–0 Baltimore Colts Cleveland Municipal Stadium 79,544 1965 NFL Green Bay Packers (9) 23–12 Cleveland Browns Lambeau Field 50,777 The BROWNS were champions once and runnerup twice.
And look at the NY football Giants the Buffalo Bills of their day. The Cowboys, Raiders, Broncos -and- Steelers and others weren't in the picture yet.
The Steelers certainly were "in the picture" in that they did exist....but they just sucked.
The Steelers certainly were "in the picture" in that they did exist....but they just sucked.
I was referring mainly to the playoff picture back then, no wild cards either.
But from 1933 - 1970+ they royally sucked......but don't try and tell a steelrz fan that.
GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND! -
There is that! We got screwed by the Steelers and Broncos when we had Kosar.
.....and it was the Packers & Cowboys.....we beat the Colts.
- using my brand new laptop right now. just got it set up. isn't it great? (my Vaio crapped out a couple of weeks ago)
NFL Championships in the Jim Brown era, I was ages 6 to 14 back them I remember the later years!
1957 NFL Detroit Lions (4) 59–14 Cleveland Browns Briggs Stadium 55,263 1958 NFL Baltimore Colts (1) 23–17 (OT) New York Giants Yankee Stadium 64,185 1959 NFL Baltimore Colts (2) 31–16 New York Giants Memorial Stadium 57,545 1960 NFL Philadelphia Eagles (3) 17–13 Green Bay Packers Franklin Field 67,325 1961 NFL Green Bay Packers (7) 37–0 New York Giants "New" City Stadium 39,029 1962 NFL Green Bay Packers (8) 16–7 New York Giants Yankee Stadium 64,892 1963 NFL Chicago Bears (8) 14–10 New York Giants Wrigley Field 45,801 1964 NFL Cleveland Browns (4) 27–0 Baltimore Colts Cleveland Municipal Stadium 79,544 1965 NFL Green Bay Packers (9) 23–12 Cleveland Browns Lambeau Field 50,777 The BROWNS were champions once and runnerup twice.
And look at the NY football Giants the Buffalo Bills of their day. The Cowboys, Raiders, Broncos -and- Steelers and others weren't in the picture yet.
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The Steelers certainly were "in the picture" in that they did exist....but they just sucked.
I was referring mainly to the playoff picture back then, no wild cards either.
But from 1933 - 1970+ they royally sucked......but don't try and tell a steelrz fan that.
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How does everyone just deal with this?
“It is impossible to get a man to understand something if his livelihood depends on him not understanding.” -
How does everyone just deal with this?
How does everyone just deal with this?
We don’t we ignore it which is what you should do.
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How does everyone just deal with this?
We don’t we ignore it which is what you should do.
We don’t we ignore it which is what you should do.
Ignore a grown man jacking in your hotel room or ignore the article?
“It is impossible to get a man to understand something if his livelihood depends on him not understanding.”
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