Big Gay Soccer Thread
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And here is a number: Overall this past season, the NFL playoffs, of which only 11 games were played, were watched by 408 million people. (This includes the 103 mill for the SB)
So....11 games in one country get 408 mill viewers......while 3.2 bill watch the 64 WC games in 200 countries.
To break it down:
The NFL playoffs were watched by an average 37.09 million per game....in the USA (with 4% of the population)
The WC games were watched by about 50 million per game....in 200 countries.
And here is a number: Overall this past season, the NFL playoffs, of which only 11 games were played, were watched by 408 million people. (This includes the 103 mill for the SB)
So....11 games in one country get 408 mill viewers......while 3.2 bill watch the 64 WC games in 200 countries.
To break it down:
The NFL playoffs were watched by an average 37.09 million per game....in the USA (with 4% of the population)
The WC games were watched by about 50 million per game....in 200 countries.
Gip, no one is arguing that the NFL isn't the #1 major domo sport in the United States. As I pointed out, more than half of the TVs in the USA weren't even tuned into the SB. Just get your head out of your a$$ and admit world wide, interest in the NFL pales in comparison to soccer. Or you forget they folded NFL Europe?
Yawn, so in those 200 countries- make that around 100 because the majority of the world doesn't give a $hit about the NFL, the Super Bowl was out viewed by a ratio of around 10-1 as opposed to the World Cup Final.
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Well, what I'm talking about is that ''NOTHING'' works every way. Any soccer fan I introduce to american football, I have to explain the importance of a guy running for 2 yards and being stopped, and then another time when a QB misses a pass, and then a punt.
In soccer you have more real action time, and a way bigger percentage for the overall match time. But in American Football, you have way less playing time, but I'm not going to be the one saying it is action packed and more intense.
Well...that is just wrong. again, just because people are moving does not mean that there is meaningful action. See my 4 corners example
The point I'm trying to get across is that, to put it simply:
-Soccer fans enjoy a sport where most of the time the ball is moving, with the tactic consisting on playing both at the same time defense and attack, thus making it a more easy paced sport that never stops.
Some can say that it rarely ever starts.
-American Football fans enjoy a sport where most of the time the ball is dead, with the tactic consisting on trying to solve the position that is given any given time by the rival, and with short time spans of action, thus making it a sport of top speed, and phisicallity.
So, the same ''rarara nothing happens in soccer, it's boring blablabla'' can be said to American Football too.
Furthermore, now that I'm thinking of it, I'm going to say that if there was NO TV (no replays, no different angles, etc.), I would probably enjoy more soccer than american football.
The thing is....there is more action and intensity in the few seconds of a single football game than there are in like 10 minutes of a soccer game.
That is just the nature of each sport.
But...you can fix soccer....just by eliminating the offside rule.
The thing is....there is more action and intensity in the few seconds of a single football game than there are in like 10 minutes of a soccer game.
That is just the nature of each sport.
But...you can fix soccer....just by eliminating the offside rule.
Well if you want to increase the scoring by orders of magnitude- sure. It's the same reason why there's offsides in hockey- and I played the sport Gip. You'd just have a bunch of guys hanging around the goal waiting for (in the case of soccer) a 50 yard pass, or in hockey- why bother to defend, if the object is to score as many goals as quickly as possible? Want to change it to a score-a-thon? They could make MLB a lot more interesting just by changing it to underhand slow pitch- have 50-40 games. It would change the nature of the game, and that's why it will never happen.
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And here is a number: Overall this past season, the NFL playoffs, of which only 11 games were played, were watched by 408 million people. (This includes the 103 mill for the SB)
So....11 games in one country get 408 mill viewers......while 3.2 bill watch the 64 WC games in 200 countries.
To break it down:
The NFL playoffs were watched by an average 37.09 million per game....in the USA (with 4% of the population)
The WC games were watched by about 50 million per game....in 200 countries.
Gip, no one is arguing that the NFL isn't the #1 major domo sport in the United States. As I pointed out, more than half of the TVs in the USA weren't even tuned into the SB. Just get your head out of your a$$ and admit world wide, interest in the NFL pales in comparison to soccer. Or you forget they folded NFL Europe?
Yawn, so in those 200 countries- make that around 100 because the majority of the world doesn't give a $hit about the NFL, the Super Bowl was out viewed by a ratio of around 10-1 as opposed to the World Cup Final.
Gip, no one is arguing that the NFL isn't the #1 major domo sport in the United States. As I pointed out, more than half of the TVs in the USA weren't even tuned into the SB. Just get your head out of your a$$ and admit world wide, interest in the NFL pales in comparison to soccer. Or you forget they folded NFL Europe?
Yawn, so in those 200 countries- make that around 100 because the majority of the world doesn't give a $hit about the NFL, the Super Bowl was out viewed by a ratio of around 10-1 as opposed to the World Cup Final.
The point YOU are missing is that with just 4% of the population, the Super Bowl gets 16% of the overall viewership as the WC Final.
So, the bottom line is that the NFL, the Super Bowl is far, far more popular here than soccer is worldwide. That is the point I am making.
And, as you say....the Super Bowl is seen by "less than half of the TVs" in the US? Of course, you realize that when the Super Bowl is on you often get dozens of people going to a Super Bowl party....as I do annually go to Westside Steve's SB party. That means that my TV at home is not turned on to the SB...so by your argument, I would not be counted as watching the Super Bowl....but of course I certainly am watching it at the party.
Now....can you come up with some stats that say what % of people in Argentina or Germany were watching the WC final? I expect that more than 50% in those countries were watching it.....after all, it only happens once every 4 years....and for those countries it may be a fact that they are in that final only once in a generation, or lifetime. Like waiting for the Browns to be in the Super Bowl. So it should garner a ton of viewership.
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The thing is....there is more action and intensity in the few seconds of a single football game than there are in like 10 minutes of a soccer game.
That is just the nature of each sport.
But...you can fix soccer....just by eliminating the offside rule.
Well if you want to increase the scoring by orders of magnitude- sure. It's the same reason why there's offsides in hockey- and I played the sport Gip. You'd just have a bunch of guys hanging around the goal waiting for (in the case of soccer) a 50 yard pass, or in hockey- why bother to defend, if the object is to score as many goals as quickly as possible? Want to change it to a score-a-thon? They could make MLB a lot more interesting just by changing it to underhand slow pitch- have 50-40 games. It would change the nature of the game, and that's why it will never happen.
Well if you want to increase the scoring by orders of magnitude- sure. It's the same reason why there's offsides in hockey- and I played the sport Gip. You'd just have a bunch of guys hanging around the goal waiting for (in the case of soccer) a 50 yard pass, or in hockey- why bother to defend, if the object is to score as many goals as quickly as possible? Want to change it to a score-a-thon? They could make MLB a lot more interesting just by changing it to underhand slow pitch- have 50-40 games. It would change the nature of the game, and that's why it will never happen.
Hockey's offside is a totally different rule than the one in soccer. Soccer's offside rule is tantamount to saying that in football no WR is allowed to run past their defender on the way to the goal. That any score where the WR outruns the DB covering him would be disallowed. It also treats the goalie like he is a potted plant...incapable of doing anything.
Yet, in that sport...to hype it up at the end of tie games they go to a silly shootout system.....which is nothing but a mano a mano confrontation between a player and a goalie. Why not simply incorporate that matchup organically into the regular game?
And you totally overestimate the amount of "cherry picking" that would go on. Cherry picking is legal in basketball...yet you don't see it happening at all. So...if the offside rule were to never be eliminated...then that is one reason that soccer will always remain boring
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Zombo said:
Not sure which is gayer, Soccer or Las Vegas?
Zombo
1) Gip is always right.
2) If Gip is wrong, refer to #1.
To try some co-ckamamie spin that soccer isn't by far the world's #1 sport is just wrong, and I'm not going to bother debating him on it.
It's not like I'm a huge fan Z. I do tune into the highlights. LOL, you can usually condense 90 minutes of a match to 30 seconds. I will watch the final in toto.
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It's the worlds number one sport because it evolved that way. All you need is a ball, two sticks and some grass and kids can play anywhere in the world.
Great sport for ladies, in my opinion.
But here in the United States we have grown-ass man sports.
We developed basketball and that's what kids growing up in the city can play easily, much more exciting game than soccer to play or watch.
We developed baseball and that's what the country kids play, develops a multitude of skills ... you can actually use your hands and arms!.
And for the tough kids, we developed football ... rugby but much more exciting for the common guy to watch. Most exciting sport to watch for me... rest of the world can watch soccer, I'm cool with that .. Doesnt make me wrong for loving football, basketball and baseball and not caring a poop nugget about a ladies sport that the rest of the world still loves as a men's sport.
Z
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Regarding FS' comments about top athletes, completely different skill set as opposed to playing football. Basketball may be close. Top Marathon runners would gas any NFL player in the first mile or two. Regarding football, I'm always fond of recalling Chris Collinsworth's story about the Bengal's soccer match. The Bengals were in a bar, and called the local semi-pro soccer team a bunch of wusses. Got challenged to a soccer match- the soccer guys were up 10-0 when the Bengals quit. So much for the "superior athletes".
What do you think would happen if the soccer team took on the Bengals in football? It would be 150-0 after the first quarter.
Oh god my favorite exchange of the day......"deezzz guys were in a bar and were challenged to go play soccer" . Are you kidding me? If I were drinking in a bar I'd throw up if you wanted me to run around chasing a ball like it's the chicken in the Rocky movie.
If you look at the echelon of world athletes it would be a bit subjective but the hardest team sport to play physically would have to be American football followed by basketball or hockey (ice, try it!) then everything else in some order. Just try for a minute to take out our personal likes and preconceived notions out of the equation.
Anyone who wants to line up against a professional or collegiate football team and go for four quarters would get killed!
Sure and a skinny butt marathon runner from Kenya can run 26.2 miles also NOT a team sport. Soccer players stand around a lot (yes i've watched the USA men's and women's team in the Olympics and World Cup and our football team played one summer in high school) just try and watch it! Zzzooooooo.
And soccer the world's game, look it up, some form has been played going back about 2,000 years. All you need is a ball or human skull or something to kick around a field. (yes it's been theorized they used deceased enemies skulls way back but no video remains). The USA was a bunch of woods back then. That is why it is viewed and followed all over the world. OH and when was the last American football riot where they throw lit flares or people were killed? Do they put chain link link fences around the BROWNS games? Are some teams fans BARRED from some games or entire countries? True or false?
So to each his own but I guarantee you I'm not TIVOing a marathon game or soccer or golf match anytime this century. The recent CTE health crisis has been the biggest recent boom for soccer more mommies won't let their kids play tackle football, that's good for soccer they will get more former football athletes and mom's to attend games.
Just my humble opinion of course.
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Zombo said:
Not sure which is gayer, Soccer or Las Vegas?
Zombo
1) Gip is always right.
2) If Gip is wrong, refer to #1.
To try some co-ckamamie spin that soccer isn't by far the world's #1 sport is just wrong, and I'm not going to bother debating him on it.
It's not like I'm a huge fan Z. I do tune into the highlights. LOL, you can usually condense 90 minutes of a match to 30 seconds. I will watch the final in toto.
1) Gip is always right.
2) If Gip is wrong, refer to #1.
To try some co-ckamamie spin that soccer isn't by far the world's #1 sport is just wrong, and I'm not going to bother debating him on it.
To try some Sockamamie spin that I don't agree that soccer is the world's #1 sport is just wrong. I recognize that it is...and have said so repeatedly. Not sure what you have been reading. It is gay, it is boring...but it is popular. I am saying that in all those other 200 countries though....futbol is NOT more popular in them than real football is here.
It's not like I'm a huge fan Z. I do tune into the highlights. LOL, you can usually condense 90 minutes of a match to 30 seconds. I will watch the final in toto.
Yep, there you go.....90 minutes of a soccer game CAN be reduced to 30 seconds of real action.
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It's the worlds number one sport because it evolved that way. All you need is a ball, two sticks and some grass and kids can play anywhere in the world.
Great sport for ladies, in my opinion.
But here in the United States we have grown-ass man sports.
We developed basketball and that's what kids growing up in the city can play easily, much more exciting game than soccer to play or watch.
We developed baseball and that's what the country kids play, develops a multitude of skills ... you can actually use your hands and arms!.
And for the tough kids, we developed football ... rugby but much more exciting for the common guy to watch. Most exciting sport to watch for me... rest of the world can watch soccer, I'm cool with that .. Doesnt make me wrong for loving football, basketball and baseball and not caring a poop nugget about a ladies sport that the rest of the world still loves as a men's sport.
Z
Zombo said:
It's the worlds number one sport because it evolved that way. All you need is a ball, two sticks and some grass and kids can play anywhere in the world.
Where do the sticks come into play in soccer?
Great sport for ladies, in my opinion.
But here in the United States we have grown-butt man sports.
We developed basketball and that's what kids growing up in the city can play easily, much more exciting game than soccer to play or watch.
We developed baseball and that's what the country kids play, develops a multitude of skills ... you can actually use your hands and arms!.
And for the tough kids, we developed football ... rugby but much more exciting for the common guy to watch. Most exciting sport to watch for me... rest of the world can watch soccer, I'm cool with that .. Doesnt make me wrong for loving football, basketball and baseball and not caring a poop nugget about a ladies sport that the rest of the world still loves as a men's sport.
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It's the worlds number one sport because it evolved that way. All you need is a ball, two sticks and some grass and kids can play anywhere in the world.
Great sport for ladies, in my opinion.
But here in the United States we have grown-ass man sports.
We developed basketball and that's what kids growing up in the city can play easily, much more exciting game than soccer to play or watch.
We developed baseball and that's what the country kids play, develops a multitude of skills ... you can actually use your hands and arms!.
And for the tough kids, we developed football ... rugby but much more exciting for the common guy to watch. Most exciting sport to watch for me... rest of the world can watch soccer, I'm cool with that .. Doesnt make me wrong for loving football, basketball and baseball and not caring a poop nugget about a ladies sport that the rest of the world still loves as a men's sport.
Z
Zombo said:
It's the worlds number one sport because it evolved that way. All you need is a ball, two sticks and some grass and kids can play anywhere in the world.
Great sport for ladies, in my opinion.
But here in the United States we have grown-butt man sports.
We developed basketball and that's what kids growing up in the city can play easily, much more exciting game than soccer to play or watch.
We developed baseball and that's what the country kids play, develops a multitude of skills ... you can actually use your hands and arms!.
And for the tough kids, we developed football ... rugby but much more exciting for the common guy to watch. Most exciting sport to watch for me... rest of the world can watch soccer, I'm cool with that .. Doesnt make me wrong for loving football, basketball and baseball and not caring a poop nugget about a ladies sport that the rest of the world still loves as a men's sport.
Z
And with the shoe on the other foot, the majority of the rest of the world doesn't give a rat about American football. I agree, basketball is becoming very much a world sport. Not like when the original Dream Team was beating the rest of the world's best by 50, and not even trying too hard. Plenty of foreign stars in the NBA, Nowitzki is a certain first ballot HOFer. It's working the other way around now, the very top American soccer players like Tim Howard, Landon Donovan, Clint Dempsey playing in Europe- because the money is way better over there. I've said eventually, us guys will reach a critical mass of top players to make a serious run at a World Cup. FWIW, the US missing out on the World Cup this year losing to Trinidad is the football equivalent of Michigan getting beat by Appalachian State.
BTW Z in Third World countries, that's all you need to play soccer, a ball and two sticks for a goal post. LOL- as an aside to Gip, if you're living in a hut with a dirt floor and no running water, you probably don't have a TV and satellite dish (um, no electricity either) to tune into the World Cup, or the viewership would be a lot higher.
But I'd bet if we had all grown up in Europe, we'd all be soccer fans.
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Zombo said:
It's the worlds number one sport because it evolved that way. All you need is a ball, two sticks and some grass and kids can play anywhere in the world.
Great sport for ladies, in my opinion.
But here in the United States we have grown-butt man sports.
We developed basketball and that's what kids growing up in the city can play easily, much more exciting game than soccer to play or watch.
We developed baseball and that's what the country kids play, develops a multitude of skills ... you can actually use your hands and arms!.
And for the tough kids, we developed football ... rugby but much more exciting for the common guy to watch. Most exciting sport to watch for me... rest of the world can watch soccer, I'm cool with that .. Doesnt make me wrong for loving football, basketball and baseball and not caring a poop nugget about a ladies sport that the rest of the world still loves as a men's sport.
Z
And with the shoe on the other foot, the majority of the rest of the world doesn't give a rat about American football. I agree, basketball is becoming very much a world sport. Not like when the original Dream Team was beating the rest of the world's best by 50, and not even trying too hard. Plenty of foreign stars in the NBA, Nowitzki is a certain first ballot HOFer. It's working the other way around now, the very top American soccer players like Tim Howard, Landon Donovan, Clint Dempsey playing in Europe- because the money is way better over there. I've said eventually, us guys will reach a critical mass of top players to make a serious run at a World Cup. FWIW, the US missing out on the World Cup this year losing to Trinidad is the football equivalent of Michigan getting beat by Appalachian State.
BTW Z in Third World countries, that's all you need to play soccer, a ball and two sticks for a goal post. LOL- as an aside to Gip, if you're living in a hut with a dirt floor and no running water, you probably don't have a TV and satellite dish (um, no electricity either) to tune into the World Cup, or the viewership would be a lot higher.
But I'd bet if we had all grown up in Europe, we'd all be soccer fans.
And with the shoe on the other foot, the majority of the rest of the world doesn't give a rat about American football. I agree, basketball is becoming very much a world sport. Not like when the original Dream Team was beating the rest of the world's best by 50, and not even trying too hard. Plenty of foreign stars in the NBA, Nowitzki is a certain first ballot HOFer. It's working the other way around now, the very top American soccer players like Tim Howard, Landon Donovan, Clint Dempsey playing in Europe- because the money is way better over there. I've said eventually, us guys will reach a critical mass of top players to make a serious run at a World Cup. FWIW, the US missing out on the World Cup this year losing to Trinidad is the football equivalent of Michigan getting beat by Appalachian State.
BTW Z in Third World countries, that's all you need to play soccer, a ball and two sticks for a goal post. LOL- as an aside to Gip, if you're living in a hut with a dirt floor and no running water, you probably don't have a TV and satellite dish (um, no electricity either) to tune into the World Cup, or the viewership would be a lot higher.
But I'd bet if we had all grown up in Europe, we'd all be soccer fans.
You overemphasize the lack of access to TV around the world. How much of it is really that dirt poor that there is no TV. (and fyi....there are more TVs in China than in the USA).
And we didn't grow up in Europe. So you can thank goodness for that. Besides that......not ALL Europeans are into soccer. My cousin in England despises it really....he is more of a rugby guy. He is the one I quote when I say that soccer players are a pile of preening pansies. Those were his words, not mine.
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Zombo said:
It's the worlds number one sport because it evolved that way. All you need is a ball, two sticks and some grass and kids can play anywhere in the world.
Great sport for ladies, in my opinion.
But here in the United States we have grown-butt man sports.
We developed basketball and that's what kids growing up in the city can play easily, much more exciting game than soccer to play or watch.
We developed baseball and that's what the country kids play, develops a multitude of skills ... you can actually use your hands and arms!.
And for the tough kids, we developed football ... rugby but much more exciting for the common guy to watch. Most exciting sport to watch for me... rest of the world can watch soccer, I'm cool with that .. Doesnt make me wrong for loving football, basketball and baseball and not caring a poop nugget about a ladies sport that the rest of the world still loves as a men's sport.
Z
And with the shoe on the other foot, the majority of the rest of the world doesn't give a rat about American football. I agree, basketball is becoming very much a world sport. Not like when the original Dream Team was beating the rest of the world's best by 50, and not even trying too hard. Plenty of foreign stars in the NBA, Nowitzki is a certain first ballot HOFer. It's working the other way around now, the very top American soccer players like Tim Howard, Landon Donovan, Clint Dempsey playing in Europe- because the money is way better over there. I've said eventually, us guys will reach a critical mass of top players to make a serious run at a World Cup. FWIW, the US missing out on the World Cup this year losing to Trinidad is the football equivalent of Michigan getting beat by Appalachian State.
BTW Z in Third World countries, that's all you need to play soccer, a ball and two sticks for a goal post. LOL- as an aside to Gip, if you're living in a hut with a dirt floor and no running water, you probably don't have a TV and satellite dish (um, no electricity either) to tune into the World Cup, or the viewership would be a lot higher.
But I'd bet if we had all grown up in Europe, we'd all be soccer fans.
BTW Z in Third World countries, that's all you need to play soccer, a ball and two sticks for a goal post.
But I'd bet if we had all grown up in Europe, we'd all be soccer fans.
Yep, that's exactly what I said.
We've got basketball courts, baseball fields and football fields, so we're good.
But I'd bet if we had all grown up in Europe, we'd all be soccer fans.
Well thank God we didn't, because soccer blows.
And with the shoe on the other foot, the majority of the rest of the world doesn't give a rat about American football.
Did you read the part where I said I don't give a shit that don't give a shit?
Zombo
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Ha, until they changed the rules, the same could be said for pro basketball. Led by the King of the floppers, Bill Laimbeer.
There's more action in the first five minutes of a soccer match than an entire baseball game-
That is just a stupid comment.
no wonder a lot of people consider baseball utterly boring, second only to golf. Regarding golf- we hashed this out years ago, and guys are entrenched in their opinions- but personally- I don't consider golf to be a sport- it's a skill.
Thanks to MJP's article, US major league soccer has a long way to go to catch up in average salary to the European version- (looks like the equivalent of Class A baseball) probably why most of the top US soccer players play on European teams. We'd need to start filling up 60,000 seat stadiums and get major air time to catch up.
Regarding FS' comments about top athletes, completely different skill set as opposed to playing football. Basketball may be close. Top Marathon runners would gas any NFL player in the first mile or two. Regarding football, I'm always fond of recalling Chris Collinsworth's story about the Bengal's soccer match. The Bengals were in a bar, and called the local semi-pro soccer team a bunch of wusses. Got challenged to a soccer match- the soccer guys were up 10-0 when the Bengals quit. So much for the "superior athletes".
What do you think would happen if the soccer team took on the Bengals in football? It would be 150-0 after the first quarter.
Machismo doesn't define whether something is a sport or not. Try your hand at figure skating and tell me if it is hard or not.
Golf isn't a sport. It simply isn't. A pro who is a par shooter is going to take 72 swings per round of golf. From top to contact, let's say generously a swing takes 6 seconds to execute. That means a guy does 432 seconds of physical work to play an entire round. 7 minutes plus change. What the hell kind of sport takes 3 hours and requires 7 minutes of physical activity? Let's not be stupid.
Soccer? A sport for effeminate men. A sport mostly played by homosexuals. Soccer is nothing more than Dancing With The Stars for sissy boys. How can anyone watch this schidt?
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Machismo doesn't define whether something is a sport or not. Try your hand at figure skating and tell me if it is hard or not.
Golf isn't a sport. It simply isn't. A pro who is a par shooter is going to take 72 swings per round of golf. From top to contact, let's say generously a swing takes 6 seconds to execute. That means a guy does 432 seconds of physical work to play an entire round. 7 minutes plus change. What the hell kind of sport takes 3 hours and requires 7 minutes of physical activity? Let's not be stupid.
Soccer? A sport for effeminate men. A sport mostly played by homosexuals. Soccer is nothing more than Dancing With The Stars for sissy boys. How can anyone watch this schidt?
Machismo doesn't define whether something is a sport or not. Try your hand at figure skating and tell me if it is hard or not.
Golf isn't a sport. It simply isn't. A pro who is a par shooter is going to take 72 swings per round of golf. From top to contact, let's say generously a swing takes 6 seconds to execute. That means a guy does 432 seconds of physical work to play an entire round. 7 minutes plus change. What the hell kind of sport takes 3 hours and requires 7 minutes of physical activity? Let's not be stupid.
Soccer? A sport for effeminate men. A sport mostly played by homosexuals. Soccer is nothing more than Dancing With The Stars for sissy boys. How can anyone watch this schidt?
LOL, you remember Garo Yepremian saying "I keek a touchdown?" But at least on the pro level, you at least have to have endurance, not to mention some skill. We had a pretty decent soccer team in college and I'd see guys running around our basketball court bouncing the ball off their head continuously. Try that one on for degree of difficulty. Gips protestations there's a lot of standing around is BS. From Wiki- Long games, a massive field and a constantly moving ball add up to serious distance for soccer players. STATS puts the average at 7 miles per game depending on position, and as much as 9.5 miles for some players
Tom, I'm 100% with you on golf. But you at least have to be able to walk- if you remember they wouldn't give that guy an exemption to use a cart because he had some weird vascular disorder. It's a repetitive skill. At least driving the ball off a tee, and putting. John Daley doesn't have that athletic look. Though with all due respects, the better golfers today do work out. Hey- Rory McIllroy missed some time on the Tour, got himself hurt playing soccer with his friends.
I played competitive tennis in my earlier years- and for sure you have to have some athletic ability- especially now. Back in the 70s you'd see guys hit kill shots once in awhile, now they murder every stroke. As to a repetitive skill- that's how I learned to develop a decent serve. Went out one summer every day with a bucket of tennis balls, and hit serves for a couple hours, until I got good at it.
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Gips protestations there's a lot of standing around is BS.
I didn't say they just stood around, they move....but just with very rare attempt to attack the goal. The guys running the Dean Smith 4 corners moved...the would dribble the ball all around and pass it all around....never attempting to score. You know...like in soccer.
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Gips protestations there's a lot of standing around is BS.
I didn't say they just stood around, they move....but just with very rare attempt to attack the goal. The guys running the Dean Smith 4 corners moved...the would dribble the ball all around and pass it all around....never attempting to score. You know...like in soccer.
Gips protestations there's a lot of standing around is BS.
I didn't say they just stood around, they move....but just with very rare attempt to attack the goal. The guys running the Dean Smith 4 corners moved...the would dribble the ball all around and pass it all around....never attempting to score. You know...like in soccer.
Me and Nero would say that's your utter lack of knowledge how the game is played showing. You can't constantly attack in soccer, (you have to look for your openings) it leaves you open to a counter-attack- listen to the FS1 commentators. Shove everyone up close, one boot over the defenders heads, it's the equivalent of a three on none basketball break, and an almost certain goal. Where you don't get a second- or tenth chance, like in basketball. $hit like that happens (using the hockey equivalent) when you're down a goal, and you pull the goalie to go 6 on 5 in the last minute or two. Goals are at a premium- for a reason. They could make the scoring a a lot higher if they just shrunk the field.
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Gips protestations there's a lot of standing around is BS.
I didn't say they just stood around, they move....but just with very rare attempt to attack the goal. The guys running the Dean Smith 4 corners moved...the would dribble the ball all around and pass it all around....never attempting to score. You know...like in soccer.
Me and Nero would say that's your utter lack of knowledge how the game is played showing. You can't constantly attack in soccer, (you have to look for your openings) it leaves you open to a counter-attack- listen to the FS1 commentators. Shove everyone up close, one boot over the defenders heads, it's the equivalent of a three on none basketball break, and an almost certain goal. Where you don't get a second- or tenth chance, like in basketball. $hit like that happens (using the hockey equivalent) when you're down a goal, and you pull the goalie to go 6 on 5 in the last minute or two. Goals are at a premium- for a reason. They could make the scoring a a lot higher if they just shrunk the field.
Me and Nero would say that's your utter lack of knowledge how the game is played showing.
Maybe..but that does not make it any less boring.
You can't constantly attack in soccer, (you have to look for your openings) it leaves you open to a counter-attack- listen to the FS1 commentators. Shove everyone up close, one boot over the defenders heads, it's the equivalent of a three on none basketball break, and an almost certain goal. Where you don't get a second- or tenth chance, like in basketball. $hit like that happens (using the hockey equivalent) when you're down a goal, and you pull the goalie to go 6 on 5 in the last minute or two. Goals are at a premium- for a reason. They could make the scoring a a lot higher if they just shrunk the field.
Goals are at a premium because the teams rarely attempt to attack the goal...and because the rules of the game disallow exciting attacks on the goal. Eliminate the offside rule....make shootouts an organic part of the game..then it would maybe be interesting and exciting. (But fuycking God forbid that there actually be 2-3 more goals scored per game.....)
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Machismo doesn't define whether something is a sport or not. Try your hand at figure skating and tell me if it is hard or not.
Golf isn't a sport. It simply isn't. A pro who is a par shooter is going to take 72 swings per round of golf. From top to contact, let's say generously a swing takes 6 seconds to execute. That means a guy does 432 seconds of physical work to play an entire round. 7 minutes plus change. What the hell kind of sport takes 3 hours and requires 7 minutes of physical activity? Let's not be stupid.
Soccer? A sport for effeminate men. A sport mostly played by homosexuals. Soccer is nothing more than Dancing With The Stars for sissy boys. How can anyone watch this schidt?
LOL, you remember Garo Yepremian saying "I keek a touchdown?" But at least on the pro level, you at least have to have endurance, not to mention some skill. We had a pretty decent soccer team in college and I'd see guys running around our basketball court bouncing the ball off their head continuously. Try that one on for degree of difficulty. Gips protestations there's a lot of standing around is BS. From Wiki- Long games, a massive field and a constantly moving ball add up to serious distance for soccer players. STATS puts the average at 7 miles per game depending on position, and as much as 9.5 miles for some players
Tom, I'm 100% with you on golf. But you at least have to be able to walk- if you remember they wouldn't give that guy an exemption to use a cart because he had some weird vascular disorder. It's a repetitive skill. At least driving the ball off a tee, and putting. John Daley doesn't have that athletic look. Though with all due respects, the better golfers today do work out. Hey- Rory McIllroy missed some time on the Tour, got himself hurt playing soccer with his friends.
I played competitive tennis in my earlier years- and for sure you have to have some athletic ability- especially now. Back in the 70s you'd see guys hit kill shots once in awhile, now they murder every stroke. As to a repetitive skill- that's how I learned to develop a decent serve. Went out one summer every day with a bucket of tennis balls, and hit serves for a couple hours, until I got good at it.
LOL, you remember Garo Yepremian saying "I keek a touchdown?" But at least on the pro level, you at least have to have endurance, not to mention some skill. We had a pretty decent soccer team in college and I'd see guys running around our basketball court bouncing the ball off their head continuously. Try that one on for degree of difficulty. Gips protestations there's a lot of standing around is BS. From Wiki- Long games, a massive field and a constantly moving ball add up to serious distance for soccer players. STATS puts the average at 7 miles per game depending on position, and as much as 9.5 miles for some players
Tom, I'm 100% with you on golf. But you at least have to be able to walk- if you remember they wouldn't give that guy an exemption to use a cart because he had some weird vascular disorder. It's a repetitive skill. At least driving the ball off a tee, and putting. John Daley doesn't have that athletic look. Though with all due respects, the better golfers today do work out. Hey- Rory McIllroy missed some time on the Tour, got himself hurt playing soccer with his friends.
I played competitive tennis in my earlier years- and for sure you have to have some athletic ability- especially now. Back in the 70s you'd see guys hit kill shots once in awhile, now they murder every stroke. As to a repetitive skill- that's how I learned to develop a decent serve. Went out one summer every day with a bucket of tennis balls, and hit serves for a couple hours, until I got good at it.
Larry, on a serious note, my trip to the Masters was eye-opening. I don't consider horse racing a sport and will never change my opinion on that, but whatever one calls it, these pro golfers are very, very skilled. I honestly don't want to dis the guys. It is boring to me, but wow they have great hand eye, discipline and range judgement. Soccer? Boring to me, but these guys are athletes. Do you remember Kyle Rote Junior on the Super Stars Competition? We all laughed at the thought of a soccer sissy competing against NFL, MLB, NBA and boxers. hey guy didn't just win, he dominated.
I am an old NFL American. Baseball, Hotdogs Apple Pie and Chevrolet. I remember the great times we had in the 60s and 70s, and I have lived to see much that was good turned to schidt. I say, God Bless anyone who can get paid to do something they love. I just like football, ya know?
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