Stallworth Suspended
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Good deal, hope it's forever.
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Good deal, hope it's forever.
Good deal, hope it's forever.
Oh, come on now. It was unavoidable, and it's not like he was that drunk...
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Apparently the Commissioner isn't buying those arguments either. That's a stiff penalty, and a really strong reprimand.
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Correct me I'm wrong, but if his suspension is indefinite, Stalworth's accident ruined his pro football career forever.
I feel that his civil justice punishment was too lenient and that this is too harsh.... I feel sorry for Stalworth but also... I cant say that he isnt responsible for it. I hope Goodall's "final determination" will give him a bit more leniency.
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Correct me I'm wrong, but if his suspension is indefinite, Stalworth's accident ruined his pro football career forever.
I feel that his civil justice punishment was too lenient and that this is too harsh.... I feel sorry for Stalworth but also... I cant say that he isnt responsible for it. I hope Goodall's "final determination" will give him a bit more leniency.
Correct me I'm wrong, but if his suspension is indefinite, Stalworth's accident ruined his pro football career forever.
I feel that his civil justice punishment was too lenient and that this is too harsh.... I feel sorry for Stalworth but also... I cant say that he isnt responsible for it. I hope Goodall's "final determination" will give him a bit more leniency.
Indefinite can mean a LOT of different things. Orlando Brown was suspended indefinitely also, for shoving a ref that blinded him. For now it is the initial response from Goodell, but it is far from the final response. Donte will play football again, but most likely not until most, if not all, of his house arrest is served.
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He will be suspended 8 games for substance abuse, and 8 games for conduct. 1 full season
thats my prediction anyways
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I have no idea, but I can't imagine him being suspended for more than a year.
He's going to feel the repercussions of Tags' leniency towards Little and the resulting outrage even years later. Hell, it basically got swept under the rug at the time but when people find out what happened and the resulting second offense they got MADD.
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Okay this is a bit much...Mike Vick defrauded the NFL the US Government and commited a heinous crime against humanity for murdering dogs... and he was suspended indefinitely. Stallworth on the other hand, drove drunk hit and killed a humanbeing who may or may not have been "breaking the law" (jay walking) and using poor judgement (jumping out infront of traffic). Stallworth didn't run from his mistake or try to lie about it, he stayed there took his lumps made things as right as they could possibly be (under the circumstances) and will do his time as handed down by and count of law...(unlike another NFL wide reciever who shall remain nameless and who very likely will be suiting up for an NFL team this season.) Now I am in no way saying Stallworth shouldn't be punished...by all means give him and 4 or 8 game suspension...but while we condemn his crimes let us not for get to commend his handling of the situation...he didn't bitch or whine or cry about it being "not my fault" he maned up and did the right thing. No I am an huge Brown's Fan...but I am not a huge Stallworth fan....until now...in a world full of celebrity athletes who lie cheat and steal their way out of trouble, Stallworth handled it the right way. I am not saying he should be congratulated or rewarded I am saying he shouldn't be crusified. Thank you for reading.
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Exactly the point I was trying to make, well said
Welcome to the board by the way!
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You can start a list of players that were suspended indefinately and were back inside a year or were back playing after the one year. Does the name Pacman ring a bell?
No way Stallworth sits out more then one season.
Hopefully the Browns can recoup some of the bonus money and the suspension won't make it a cap hit. Next year his cap hit will be minimal so it is goodbye to Stallworth. I don't think we will ever see him in a Brown's uniform again.
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mikeyP72 said:
I bet 2 cases of beer Goodell has drank and drove. Probably done worse.Hyprocrisy.
Ill raise you a fifth of Crown Royal
Most are guilty of it, hell all you have to do is drink 1 and 1/2 glasses of wine or have 2 beers at resteraunt and get behind the wheel and blow .08
Just because you dont feel tipsy dosn't mean your below the limit. Your brain will build up a higher tolerance level the more you drink.
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I think the fact that we drafted two WRs in round two in April's draft and signed two additional vets tells me Stally wasn't in our 2009/future plans anyway.
mz. said:
I think the fact that we drafted two WRs in round two in April's draft and signed two additional vets tells me Stally wasn't in our 2009/future plans anyway.+1
anyone know if his suspension clears his salary on the cap? either way I don't want him anywhere near this team, he was practically worthless last year(albeit that could have been some of crennel's fault), and we have young rookies to develop anyway.
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Okay this is a bit much...Mike Vick defrauded the NFL the US Government and commited a heinous crime against humanity for murdering dogs... and he was suspended indefinitely. Stallworth on the other hand, drove drunk hit and killed a humanbeing who may or may not have been "breaking the law" (jay walking) and using poor judgement (jumping out infront of traffic). Stallworth didn't run from his mistake or try to lie about it, he stayed there took his lumps made things as right as they could possibly be (under the circumstances) and will do his time as handed down by and count of law...(unlike another NFL wide reciever who shall remain nameless and who very likely will be suiting up for an NFL team this season.) Now I am in no way saying Stallworth shouldn't be punished...by all means give him and 4 or 8 game suspension...but while we condemn his crimes let us not for get to commend his handling of the situation...he didn't bitch or whine or cry about it being "not my fault" he maned up and did the right thing. No I am an huge Brown's Fan...but I am not a huge Stallworth fan....until now...in a world full of celebrity athletes who lie cheat and steal their way out of trouble, Stallworth handled it the right way. I am not saying he should be congratulated or rewarded I am saying he shouldn't be crusified. Thank you for reading.
...but I am not a huge Stallworth fan....until now...in a world full of celebrity athletes who lie cheat and steal their way out of trouble, Stallworth handled it the right way. I am not saying he should be congratulated or rewarded I am saying he shouldn't be crusified. Thank you for reading.
What do you mean crucified!? 30 days prison, 2 years home confinement, 8[?] years probation and ordinary people [non - celeb] involved in DUI/manslaughter charges/convictions on average get MUCH more harsh sentences {Like YEARS in prison!!} No, the big $$ did the talking, look at the legal system in Miami Beach court. Stallworth benefitted by swift action [quick public statements of remorse] a family probably eager to non lingering court battles and $$, plus some very questionable behind the scenes activity with the lawyers. To me looks like Donte got a GREAT deal, I hardly feel sorry for him. As a player, I never believed he was worth the money he got, and HOPE the Browns can recoup some of their loss. At the very least, Stallworth has no more paydays! BTW thanks Goodell, Stick it to him!!
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I think Goodell got it spot on. The part I liked is the link to the public support of this league and how he needed to respect those riches and conduct himself accordingly. There is no excuse for what he did, man the guy could have a full time chauffeur if he wanted. This decision is the right one. He's just lucky he got 30 days, that was far too soft.
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mz. said:
I think the fact that we drafted two WRs in round two in April's draft and signed two additional vets tells me Stally wasn't in our 2009/future plans anyway.+1
anyone know if his suspension clears his salary on the cap? either way I don't want him anywhere near this team, he was practically worthless last year(albeit that could have been some of crennel's fault), and we have young rookies to develop anyway.
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anyone know if his suspension clears his salary on the cap?
When a player is suspended, his prorated signing bonuses still count, but his base salary does not.
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+1
anyone know if his suspension clears his salary on the cap?
When a player is suspended, his prorated signing bonuses still count, but his base salary does not.
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mikeyP72 said:
I bet 2 cases of beer Goodell has drank and drove. Probably done worse.Hyprocrisy.
Dude, come on. Don't make ASSUMPTIONS. Because you look like an ASS and the UMP will SHUN you. But really, he never killed someone regardless.
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@jadbf said:
My two centsI applaud the Goodell for this action. And I agree with shep I beleive it was that said he heard it will be years. or the same amount as his home confinement set by the judicial system.
That makes sense to me. Because in my opinion, "home confinement" technically still counts as being in jail, and you wouldn't let a guy play while in jail.
I expect Goodell won't even say it's two years. I predict they say they will revist his supsension when the two year sentance is ending.
For those who think Stallworth should be banned for life for making one stupid mistake, I hope I never get someone like you on a jury of mine.
Actually, the home confinement means he is confined to home EXCEPT when he is working. He is allowed to go to and from his JOB and make a living. And although we like to think of this as 'playing', the NFL is his 'job'.
At any rate, I think a lot of people are making a lot of speculations about the duration, but looking at what has been done in the past for DUI's...and for Domestic Abuse...and other incidents with individuals with MULTIPLE infractions...I would tend to believe that he is out for THIS year...and then will be re-evaluated based on his commitment to the promises he made in the courts leading to this outcome.
Even so, the ramifications for the Browns is simple. He will cost us $7.6M if we cut him now...and $0 if we cut him in 2010 due to the absence of the Collective Bargaining Agreement. Therefore, he will most likely be cut the week following the end of the Browns season.
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Did you know that three of MADD's top executives have gotten DUI's in the last three years... talk about hypocrites
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Did you know that three of MADD's top executives have gotten DUI's in the last three years... talk about hypocrites
Did you know that three of MADD's top executives have gotten DUI's in the last three years... talk about hypocrites
rofl
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