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  • Westside Steve W Dedicated Reacting Well Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Conversation Starter Week One Done One Year In One Month Later Very Popular
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    W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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    So, of course, this has sparked outrage among some people. At what point is it correct to lower the flag to half-mast? I am assuming that the request regarding the shootings of journalists is politically motivated.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/07/02/lowering-flag-its-trumps-decision-when-order-flags-half-staff/753218002/

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      DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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      Do we lower it when 10 people get killed in Chicago Hood?

      "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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        So we're at a point where a mass shooting has to be "big enough"? Lovely

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          Do we lower it when 10 people get killed in Chicago Hood?

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          Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by
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          @diehardbrownsfan said:

          Do we lower it when 10 people get killed in Chicago Hood?

          No...that's considered a slow day in Chicago.

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            Do we lower it when 10 people get killed in Chicago Hood?

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            @diehardbrownsfan said:

            Do we lower it when 10 people get killed in Chicago Hood?

            10 people in 10 seperate incidents is not the same as 5 people in one incident. 

            fyi

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              @diehardbrownsfan said:

              Do we lower it when 10 people get killed in Chicago Hood?

              10 people in 10 seperate incidents is not the same as 5 people in one incident. 

              fyi

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              @clevfan4life said:

              10 people in 10 seperate incidents is not the same as 5 people in one incident. 

              fyi

              So your saying 5 > 10?

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                @clevfan4life said:

                10 people in 10 seperate incidents is not the same as 5 people in one incident. 

                fyi

                So your saying 5 > 10?

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                @canton-dawg said:

                So your saying 5 > 10?

                5 at one time is considered a mass shooting dipsht. 10 in 10 seperate incidents is called saturday night in da hood

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                  @canton-dawg said:

                  So your saying 5 > 10?

                  5 at one time is considered a mass shooting dipsht. 10 in 10 seperate incidents is called saturday night in da hood

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                  @clevfan4life said:

                  5 at one time is considered a mass shooting dipsht. 10 in 10 seperate incidents is called saturday night in da hood

                  So you're saying black lives don't matter?

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                    @clevfan4life said:

                    5 at one time is considered a mass shooting dipsht. 10 in 10 seperate incidents is called saturday night in da hood

                    So you're saying black lives don't matter?

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                    @canton-dawg said:

                    So you're saying black lives don't matter?

                    yes thats exactly where i was going, well done. 

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                      i hope the next president keeps the flags up next time a church gets shot up. i will enjoy the impotent hypocritical rage

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                        i hope the next president keeps the flags up next time a church gets shot up. i will enjoy the impotent hypocritical rage

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                        @clevfan4life said:

                        i hope the next president keeps the flags up next time a church gets shot up. i will enjoy the impotent hypocritical rage

                        So which of the recent shootings warranted Flags Across the Nation to be flown at half-mast? Since individual shootings in the ghetto don't count. And how many need to die? 5 and over? Or is it just because they are so called journalists and we want to pretend that the president, rightfully thinking that journalists are crooked is what caused their deaths? 

                        If so... Three... Two... One...

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                          @clevfan4life said:

                          i hope the next president keeps the flags up next time a church gets shot up. i will enjoy the impotent hypocritical rage

                          So which of the recent shootings warranted Flags Across the Nation to be flown at half-mast? Since individual shootings in the ghetto don't count. And how many need to die? 5 and over? Or is it just because they are so called journalists and we want to pretend that the president, rightfully thinking that journalists are crooked is what caused their deaths? 

                          If so... Three... Two... One...

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                          @westside-steve said:

                          So which of the recent shootings warranted Flags Across the Nation to be flown at half-mast? Since individual shootings in the ghetto don't count. And how many need to die? 5 and over? Or is it just because they are so called journalists and we want to pretend that the president, rightfully thinking that journalists are crooked is what caused their deaths? 

                          If so... Three... Two... One...

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                          didnt the flags get lowered for parkland and texas school shooting? i mean if they didnt than thats fine, then its consustent. but if they did get lowered, than i dont understand them not getting lowered now

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                            @westside-steve said:

                            So which of the recent shootings warranted Flags Across the Nation to be flown at half-mast? Since individual shootings in the ghetto don't count. And how many need to die? 5 and over? Or is it just because they are so called journalists and we want to pretend that the president, rightfully thinking that journalists are crooked is what caused their deaths? 

                            If so... Three... Two... One...

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                            didnt the flags get lowered for parkland and texas school shooting? i mean if they didnt than thats fine, then its consustent. but if they did get lowered, than i dont understand them not getting lowered now

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                            @clevfan4life said:

                            didnt the flags get lowered for parkland and texas school shooting? i mean if they didnt than thats fine, then its consustent. but if they did get lowered, than i dont understand them not getting lowered now

                            No idea. They lowered them today this morning I think anyway. Apparently nobody really refused in the first place.

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                              @clevfan4life said:

                              didnt the flags get lowered for parkland and texas school shooting? i mean if they didnt than thats fine, then its consustent. but if they did get lowered, than i dont understand them not getting lowered now

                              No idea. They lowered them today this morning I think anyway. Apparently nobody really refused in the first place.

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                              @westside-steve said:

                              No idea. They lowered them today this morning I think anyway. Apparently nobody really refused in the first place.

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                              oh i get that it was another gotcha to trump, but at the same time just lower the flags and nobody can say sht

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                                @clevfan4life said:

                                didnt the flags get lowered for parkland and texas school shooting? i mean if they didnt than thats fine, then its consustent. but if they did get lowered, than i dont understand them not getting lowered now

                                No idea. They lowered them today this morning I think anyway. Apparently nobody really refused in the first place.

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                                @westside-steve said:

                                No idea. They lowered them today this morning I think anyway. Apparently nobody really refused in the first place.

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                                https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/‘disgraceful’-trump-once-criticized-obama-for-not-swiftly-lowering-the-american-flag-now-it’s-his-turn/ar-AAzxi1o?ocid=spartandhp

                                wow, so Obama didn't lower the flags for the church shooting quick enough for Drumphy and look what he wrote at the time...

                                "“This disgraceful omission is unacceptable and yet another example of our incompetent politicians,” Trump said at the time, ordering flags at all of his properties to be flown at half-staff. “It is a simple yet meaningful and important gesture that signifies our respect and recognition for these great soldiers who lost their lives.”

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                                  just another head shaking example. The guy literally has zero consistent principle. He just says what he feels at any given moment. This is not a guy I trust to do anything of any value in Washington, he's not a leader. You can argue neither was Obama, fine I really don't care about any other past president cause I never liked any of them...including lord Reagan. They're all frauds and hucksters. 

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                                    just another head shaking example. The guy literally has zero consistent principle. He just says what he feels at any given moment. This is not a guy I trust to do anything of any value in Washington, he's not a leader. You can argue neither was Obama, fine I really don't care about any other past president cause I never liked any of them...including lord Reagan. They're all frauds and hucksters. 

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                                    @clevfan4life said:

                                    just another head shaking example. The guy literally has zero consistent principle. He just says what he feels at any given moment. This is not a guy I trust to do anything of any value in Washington, he's not a leader. You can argue neither was Obama, fine I really don't care about any other past president cause I never liked any of them...including lord Reagan. They're all frauds and hucksters. 

                                    Hey you can respect or follow anybody you want. I've said all along, way before you ever showed up here that there is a ruling class. Guaranteed by the Constitution and the fact that we are a republic. I've also said just about anybody, besides maybe brain damaged or mentally Retarded oh, can be the president.

                                    We have a tendency to make heroes or villains out of people that are just like delete pilgrim, victims of different sets of circumstances.

                                    There's not a man on Earth who could handle every single aspect of a junior high school football team by himself let alone a country with hundreds of millions of people.

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                                      PS the idea that he refused to lower the flags has no actual basis besides an accusation by a democratic Trump hating hack politician. 

                                      That doesn't mean he did or he didn't but consider the source and consider the fact that it hasn't been verified.

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                                        And we still have not gotten an answer about which mass shootings are worthy of national flag lowering.

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                                          @westside-steve said:

                                          No idea. They lowered them today this morning I think anyway. Apparently nobody really refused in the first place.

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                                          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/‘disgraceful’-trump-once-criticized-obama-for-not-swiftly-lowering-the-american-flag-now-it’s-his-turn/ar-AAzxi1o?ocid=spartandhp

                                          wow, so Obama didn't lower the flags for the church shooting quick enough for Drumphy and look what he wrote at the time...

                                          "“This disgraceful omission is unacceptable and yet another example of our incompetent politicians,” Trump said at the time, ordering flags at all of his properties to be flown at half-staff. “It is a simple yet meaningful and important gesture that signifies our respect and recognition for these great soldiers who lost their lives.”

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                                          @clevfan4life said:

                                          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/‘disgraceful’-trump-once-criticized-obama-for-not-swiftly-lowering-the-american-flag-now-it’s-his-turn/ar-AAzxi1o?ocid=spartandhp

                                          wow, so Obama didn't lower the flags for the church shooting quick enough for Drumphy and look what he wrote at the time...

                                          "“This disgraceful omission is unacceptable and yet another example of our incompetent politicians,” Trump said at the time, ordering flags at all of his properties to be flown at half-staff. “It is a simple yet meaningful and important gesture that signifies our respect and recognition for these great soldiers who lost their lives.”

                                          For everything Trump does or doesn't do, there is a trump quote/tweet from the past contradicting it.

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