Would an NHL team work in Cleveland?
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I actually think Hockey would do well.. I went to a couple of games.. it was fun...
Hockey is a good, fast hard hitting sport and fun to be at a game but can Ohio and NE OHIO support two NHL teams, I doubt it.
The old Barons even folded way back when the City of Cleveland had way more people.....I don't know if the metro area will go to the games in sufficient numbers with the Cavs still around.
Hockey is a good, fast hard hitting sport and fun to be at a game but can Ohio and NE OHIO support two NHL teams, I doubt it.
The old Barons even folded way back when the City of Cleveland had way more people.....I don't know if the metro area will go to the games in sufficient numbers with the Cavs still around.
Yeah well.. I don't expect the Cavs to make any noise for a few years... The Cavs without LABoob are nothing , sadly... The Indians are close.. they just need to get over the hump... The Browns might surprise.. But I'm not holding My breath...
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Hockey is a good, fast hard hitting sport and fun to be at a game but can Ohio and NE OHIO support two NHL teams, I doubt it.
The old Barons even folded way back when the City of Cleveland had way more people.....I don't know if the metro area will go to the games in sufficient numbers with the Cavs still around.
Yeah well.. I don't expect the Cavs to make any noise for a few years... The Cavs without LABoob are nothing , sadly... The Indians are close.. they just need to get over the hump... The Browns might surprise.. But I'm not holding My breath...
Yeah well.. I don't expect the Cavs to make any noise for a few years... The Cavs without LABoob are nothing , sadly... The Indians are close.. they just need to get over the hump... The Browns might surprise.. But I'm not holding My breath...
The Indians need a healthy A. Miller and a healthy outfield if they want to advance in October. They should win the weakest division in MLB just on starting pitching top 5 hitting and infield defense.
BROWNS, eh definitely improved over this decade hopefully they can further improve in 2019.
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This has to be one of the dumbest sports ideas since Herschel Walker went to the Vikings.......
........In conjunction with Wendy’s Restaurants, the franchise held a “Name the Team” contest throughout central Ohio during the month of August 1997, which gave fans throughout the area an opportunity to name the team. The plan worked out as over 14,000 entries were submitted. During the “Name the Team” contest, majority owner John H. McConnell was asked to fill out a questionnaire for the National Hockey League to help the league get a better idea of what Columbus stands for and the history of the city.
With help from the NHL, the Columbus franchise narrowed the 14,000 entries down to 10 names. Then with the information received from Mr. McConnell, the League and the franchise narrowed the list of potential names down to two – Blue Jackets and Justice...... (WHAT???).
The franchise explored all of the options of the two names, but it was the Blue Jackets name that intrigued the NHL and the Columbus franchise the most.
It was first thought that the Blue Jackets were named after the Indian chief, Blue Jacket, from Xenia, Ohio, but that was not the case.
The Blue Jackets name was selected because the name pays homage to Ohio’s contributions to American history and the great pride and patriotism exhibited by its citizens, especially during the Civil War as both the state of Ohio and the city of Columbus were significantly influential on the Union Army. Ohio contributed more of its population to the Union Army than any other state, while many of the Blue Coats worn by the Union soldiers were manufactured in6 Columbus.
With a name in place, the work really began to pick up. Next on the list were the selection of the logo, jerseys and a mascot. Just as the selection of the name process went, the Columbus franchise reviewed numerous logos before it settled on one primary logo.
The primary Blue Jackets logo that was selected features a star-studded red ribbon unfurled in the shape of the team’s initials, CBJ, with an electric green hockey stick cutting through the center to represent the “J.” The 13 stars represent each of the original 13 U.S. Colonies and signify patriotism. The star on top of the stick signifies Columbus as the state capital.
Shortly thereafter, Stinger was introduced as the mascot, the “Bug with an Attitude.” Stinger is a symbol to characterize the citizens of Columbus known for their hard work and pride for their team ........BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.......
And they ended up with the Columbus BJs.
This has to be one of the dumbest sports ideas since Herschel Walker went to the Vikings.......
........In conjunction with Wendy’s Restaurants, the franchise held a “Name the Team” contest throughout central Ohio during the month of August 1997, which gave fans throughout the area an opportunity to name the team. The plan worked out as over 14,000 entries were submitted. During the “Name the Team” contest, majority owner John H. McConnell was asked to fill out a questionnaire for the National Hockey League to help the league get a better idea of what Columbus stands for and the history of the city.
With help from the NHL, the Columbus franchise narrowed the 14,000 entries down to 10 names. Then with the information received from Mr. McConnell, the League and the franchise narrowed the list of potential names down to two – Blue Jackets and Justice...... (WHAT???).
The franchise explored all of the options of the two names, but it was the Blue Jackets name that intrigued the NHL and the Columbus franchise the most.
It was first thought that the Blue Jackets were named after the Indian chief, Blue Jacket, from Xenia, Ohio, but that was not the case.
The Blue Jackets name was selected because the name pays homage to Ohio’s contributions to American history and the great pride and patriotism exhibited by its citizens, especially during the Civil War as both the state of Ohio and the city of Columbus were significantly influential on the Union Army. Ohio contributed more of its population to the Union Army than any other state, while many of the Blue Coats worn by the Union soldiers were manufactured in6 Columbus.
With a name in place, the work really began to pick up. Next on the list were the selection of the logo, jerseys and a mascot. Just as the selection of the name process went, the Columbus franchise reviewed numerous logos before it settled on one primary logo.
The primary Blue Jackets logo that was selected features a star-studded red ribbon unfurled in the shape of the team’s initials, CBJ, with an electric green hockey stick cutting through the center to represent the “J.” The 13 stars represent each of the original 13 U.S. Colonies and signify patriotism. The star on top of the stick signifies Columbus as the state capital.
Shortly thereafter, Stinger was introduced as the mascot, the “Bug with an Attitude.” Stinger is a symbol to characterize the citizens of Columbus known for their hard work and pride for their team ........BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.......
And they ended up with the Columbus BJs.
If the team was supposedly named to honor the Blue Coats of the Union Army, they would have been called the Blue Coats, not the Blue Jackets. I have never heard of the Union Army referred to as Blue Jackets, always Blue Coats. So I stick by my theory. I do like the logo though.
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I actually think Hockey would do well.. I went to a couple of games.. it was fun...
Hockey is a good, fast hard hitting sport and fun to be at a game but can Ohio and NE OHIO support two NHL teams, I doubt it.
The old Barons even folded way back when the City of Cleveland had way more people.....I don't know if the metro area will go to the games in sufficient numbers with the Cavs still around.
Hockey is a good, fast hard hitting sport and fun to be at a game but can Ohio and NE OHIO support two NHL teams, I doubt it.
The old Barons even folded way back when the City of Cleveland had way more people.....I don't know if the metro area will go to the games in sufficient numbers with the Cavs still around.
Hockey, somewhat like Basketball, likes to put its team into "One Horse Towns". They want to be the only major league franchise in a city a lot of times. Ergo: Columbus, Raleigh (who moved from one horse town Hartford), ...in a sense, San Jose though that is a part of a larger market. Its why they went into Vegas (the Raiders announced their move later)...and, of course the 6 Canadian cities where they are the only game in town.
They need one more team to make an "even" 32. Some candidates include Canadian cities where there are no teams now: Quebec City, and Hamilton. It also includes American cities that do have other teams, but no NBA team to compete at the same time of year: Seattle, San Diego. You never know, a wild card could come out of the woods, again, a market with no current major league team: like Va. Beach/Norfolk.
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Hockey is a good, fast hard hitting sport and fun to be at a game but can Ohio and NE OHIO support two NHL teams, I doubt it.
The old Barons even folded way back when the City of Cleveland had way more people.....I don't know if the metro area will go to the games in sufficient numbers with the Cavs still around.
Hockey, somewhat like Basketball, likes to put its team into "One Horse Towns". They want to be the only major league franchise in a city a lot of times. Ergo: Columbus, Raleigh (who moved from one horse town Hartford), ...in a sense, San Jose though that is a part of a larger market. Its why they went into Vegas (the Raiders announced their move later)...and, of course the 6 Canadian cities where they are the only game in town.
They need one more team to make an "even" 32. Some candidates include Canadian cities where there are no teams now: Quebec City, and Hamilton. It also includes American cities that do have other teams, but no NBA team to compete at the same time of year: Seattle, San Diego. You never know, a wild card could come out of the woods, again, a market with no current major league team: like Va. Beach/Norfolk.
Hockey, somewhat like Basketball, likes to put its team into "One Horse Towns". They want to be the only major league franchise in a city a lot of times. Ergo: Columbus, Raleigh (who moved from one horse town Hartford), ...in a sense, San Jose though that is a part of a larger market. Its why they went into Vegas (the Raiders announced their move later)...and, of course the 6 Canadian cities where they are the only game in town.
They need one more team to make an "even" 32. Some candidates include Canadian cities where there are no teams now: Quebec City, and Hamilton. It also includes American cities that do have other teams, but no NBA team to compete at the same time of year: Seattle, San Diego. You never know, a wild card could come out of the woods, again, a market with no current major league team: like Va. Beach/Norfolk.
Yes, it's hard to go head to head with the NFL, MLB, NBA for the fans attention and discretionary dollars.
Remember too the NHL actually canceled a whole season awhile back until they could get their finances in order.....players fled to Europe to play not the other way around.
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Of course the tendency of the leagues now is to move into the warmer climes and the growing cities in the south and west, and while that is fine, I guess, I am not sure that works for hockey.
Recall.....the NHL has twice left ATL for Canada: the Atlanta Flames, named such because of Sherman torching the city in the Civil War, left for Calgary; and the Atlanta Thrashers left to become the new Winnipeg Jets.
When the NHL merged with the WHA, they did not take on the team in Houston...who had won 2 titles....or the one in Phoenix.
Certainly it is true that teams have left the north for the south: the original Winnipeg Jets are now the Phoenix Coyotes, The Hartford Whalers became the Raleigh Hurricane, the Minnesota North Stars became the Dallas Stars, and the Quebec Nordiques became the Colorado Avalanche (though I don't know that you can say that by moving to Denver that they moved to a warm weather city)...it has been as much a two way street with teams in southern areas moving to the north or Canada. One move was kind of lateral: the KC Scouts/Colorado Rockies became the New Jersey Devils.
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This has to be one of the dumbest sports ideas since Herschel Walker went to the Vikings.......
........In conjunction with Wendy’s Restaurants, the franchise held a “Name the Team” contest throughout central Ohio during the month of August 1997, which gave fans throughout the area an opportunity to name the team. The plan worked out as over 14,000 entries were submitted. During the “Name the Team” contest, majority owner John H. McConnell was asked to fill out a questionnaire for the National Hockey League to help the league get a better idea of what Columbus stands for and the history of the city.
With help from the NHL, the Columbus franchise narrowed the 14,000 entries down to 10 names. Then with the information received from Mr. McConnell, the League and the franchise narrowed the list of potential names down to two – Blue Jackets and Justice...... (WHAT???).
The franchise explored all of the options of the two names, but it was the Blue Jackets name that intrigued the NHL and the Columbus franchise the most.
It was first thought that the Blue Jackets were named after the Indian chief, Blue Jacket, from Xenia, Ohio, but that was not the case.
The Blue Jackets name was selected because the name pays homage to Ohio’s contributions to American history and the great pride and patriotism exhibited by its citizens, especially during the Civil War as both the state of Ohio and the city of Columbus were significantly influential on the Union Army. Ohio contributed more of its population to the Union Army than any other state, while many of the Blue Coats worn by the Union soldiers were manufactured in6 Columbus.
With a name in place, the work really began to pick up. Next on the list were the selection of the logo, jerseys and a mascot. Just as the selection of the name process went, the Columbus franchise reviewed numerous logos before it settled on one primary logo.
The primary Blue Jackets logo that was selected features a star-studded red ribbon unfurled in the shape of the team’s initials, CBJ, with an electric green hockey stick cutting through the center to represent the “J.” The 13 stars represent each of the original 13 U.S. Colonies and signify patriotism. The star on top of the stick signifies Columbus as the state capital.
Shortly thereafter, Stinger was introduced as the mascot, the “Bug with an Attitude.” Stinger is a symbol to characterize the citizens of Columbus known for their hard work and pride for their team ........BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.......
And they ended up with the Columbus BJs.
If the team was supposedly named to honor the Blue Coats of the Union Army, they would have been called the Blue Coats, not the Blue Jackets. I have never heard of the Union Army referred to as Blue Jackets, always Blue Coats. So I stick by my theory. I do like the logo though.
If the team was supposedly named to honor the Blue Coats of the Union Army, they would have been called the Blue Coats, not the Blue Jackets. I have never heard of the Union Army referred to as Blue Jackets, always Blue Coats. So I stick by my theory. I do like the logo though.
I agree Gip. Well aware of Blue Jacket, they had an outdoor theater show involving him for many years here in Dayton.
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The NHL is a little like NASCAR plays better in some locales than others and neither is truly national.....or international.
The NHL is a little like NASCAR plays better in some locales than others and neither is truly national.....or international.
Hockey is definitely "international". Obviously, it is the national sport of Canada, so that there makes it international......but it is also huge in Russia, Finland, Sweden, Germany, Poland, Czech/Slovakia, Croatia, Slovenia, Norway, Switzerland, South Korea...and in a lot of the Former USSR republics, Belarus, Ukraine, Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania, Kazakhstan etc. About 50 countries had teams that tried to get into the Winter Olympic games:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_hockey_at_the_2018_Winter_Olympics_–_Men's_qualification
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Is this some kind of water skiing sport where you kick the ball with your free foot and slalom with the other??
Or is it one that is more appropriate to the environs of the moon Europa?
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Is this some kind of water skiing sport where you kick the ball with your free foot and slalom with the other??
Or is it one that is more appropriate to the environs of the moon Europa?
Is this some kind of water skiing sport where you kick the ball with your free foot and slalom with the other??
Or is it one that is more appropriate to the environs of the moon Europa?
Are you drunk? Or on some other drug?
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Zombo said:
Won't happen. You can always drive to Columbus. Or Pittsburgh. Or Buffalo. Or Detroit.
Z
Which is why a Cleveland team makes sense because you have 4 natural rivals right there.
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Hockey is a good, fast hard hitting sport and fun to be at a game but can Ohio and NE OHIO support two NHL teams, I doubt it.
The old Barons even folded way back when the City of Cleveland had way more people.....I don't know if the metro area will go to the games in sufficient numbers with the Cavs still around.
Hockey, somewhat like Basketball, likes to put its team into "One Horse Towns". They want to be the only major league franchise in a city a lot of times. Ergo: Columbus, Raleigh (who moved from one horse town Hartford), ...in a sense, San Jose though that is a part of a larger market. Its why they went into Vegas (the Raiders announced their move later)...and, of course the 6 Canadian cities where they are the only game in town.
They need one more team to make an "even" 32. Some candidates include Canadian cities where there are no teams now: Quebec City, and Hamilton. It also includes American cities that do have other teams, but no NBA team to compete at the same time of year: Seattle, San Diego. You never know, a wild card could come out of the woods, again, a market with no current major league team: like Va. Beach/Norfolk.
Hockey, somewhat like Basketball, likes to put its team into "One Horse Towns". They want to be the only major league franchise in a city a lot of times. Ergo: Columbus, Raleigh (who moved from one horse town Hartford), ...in a sense, San Jose though that is a part of a larger market. Its why they went into Vegas (the Raiders announced their move later)...and, of course the 6 Canadian cities where they are the only game in town.
They need one more team to make an "even" 32. Some candidates include Canadian cities where there are no teams now: Quebec City, and Hamilton. It also includes American cities that do have other teams, but no NBA team to compete at the same time of year: Seattle, San Diego. You never know, a wild card could come out of the woods, again, a market with no current major league team: like Va. Beach/Norfolk.
Hockey thrives in football towns. See - Dallas, Boston, Chicago, Buffalo, Pittsburgh,.DC, Denver, Philadelphia
Put a winner out there and they will come. Look at Las Vegas? Who would guess hockey would make it there. Or Dallas, Tampa Bay, Nashville.
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Hockey, somewhat like Basketball, likes to put its team into "One Horse Towns". They want to be the only major league franchise in a city a lot of times. Ergo: Columbus, Raleigh (who moved from one horse town Hartford), ...in a sense, San Jose though that is a part of a larger market. Its why they went into Vegas (the Raiders announced their move later)...and, of course the 6 Canadian cities where they are the only game in town.
They need one more team to make an "even" 32. Some candidates include Canadian cities where there are no teams now: Quebec City, and Hamilton. It also includes American cities that do have other teams, but no NBA team to compete at the same time of year: Seattle, San Diego. You never know, a wild card could come out of the woods, again, a market with no current major league team: like Va. Beach/Norfolk.
Hockey thrives in football towns. See - Dallas, Boston, Chicago, Buffalo, Pittsburgh,.DC, Denver, Philadelphia
Put a winner out there and they will come. Look at Las Vegas? Who would guess hockey would make it there. Or Dallas, Tampa Bay, Nashville.
Hockey thrives in football towns. See - Dallas, Boston, Chicago, Buffalo, Pittsburgh,.DC, Denver, Philadelphia
Put a winner out there and they will come. Look at Las Vegas? Who would guess hockey would make it there. Or Dallas, Tampa Bay, Nashville.
There is nothing to say that hockey could not have thrived here in Cleveland. It was really never, ever given a chance. While maybe initially attendance was off, interest in the team was starting to catch on. It was really bad management.....or misfeasance if not malfeasance that caused things to go wrong. There was also apparently some gouging going on in their lease arrangement with the Coliseum. Not sure who was running the Coliseum at that point (Nick Mileti? or someone else)
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Is this some kind of water skiing sport where you kick the ball with your free foot and slalom with the other??
Or is it one that is more appropriate to the environs of the moon Europa?
Are you drunk? Or on some other drug?
Are you drunk? Or on some other drug?
I left 5 years in the cold of Wyoming and never want to experience anything like that again. I hate Ice. They had two seasons, winter and July 4.
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the reason it wont happen is not brcause hockey wouldnt go over well here, cause it would, but because cleveland pulls fans from the south for all their other teams. ohio wants columbus to have hockey and the buckeyes. if cleveland were to push for a hockey team columbus could start making noise for a basketball team and "maybe" even push for an NFL team. wouldnt surprise me in the slightest to hear of colimbus approaching haslem to move the browns there.
i went to one of the playoff games berween the jackets and caps.....tgat sht was amazing. as much as i loved it tho id rather let the blue jackets pull all of ohio and keep columbus more or less browns territory. i would like nothing more than for the bucks to be a conduit of players to the browns. nick bosa shut ur fukking mouth and say nothing about cleveland just fukking come here and get a big building poster of urself
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The NHL is a little like NASCAR plays better in some locales than others and neither is truly national.....or international.
Hockey is definitely "international". Obviously, it is the national sport of Canada, so that there makes it international......but it is also huge in Russia, Finland, Sweden, Germany, Poland, Czech/Slovakia, Croatia, Slovenia, Norway, Switzerland, South Korea...and in a lot of the Former USSR republics, Belarus, Ukraine, Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania, Kazakhstan etc. About 50 countries had teams that tried to get into the Winter Olympic games:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_hockey_at_the_2018_Winter_Olympics_–_Men's_qualification
Hockey is definitely "international". Obviously, it is the national sport of Canada, so that there makes it international......but it is also huge in Russia, Finland, Sweden, Germany, Poland, Czech/Slovakia, Croatia, Slovenia, Norway, Switzerland, South Korea...and in a lot of the Former USSR republics, Belarus, Ukraine, Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania, Kazakhstan etc. About 50 countries had teams that tried to get into the Winter Olympic games:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_hockey_at_the_2018_Winter_Olympics_–_Men's_qualification
Hockey is international including the Olympics.
The NHL is played in the USA and Canada, I don't think that there will be any NHL teams abroad.
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Back to the original question would the NHL work in Cleveland?
Would someone bankroll it -and- would the NHL go for it over other possible cities.......I don't know.
Back to the original question would the NHL work in Cleveland?
Would someone bankroll it -and- would the NHL go for it over other possible cities.......I don't know.
The answer to the last part is definitely no. NHL doesn't want to come to Cleveland because I think the Cleveland is the Columbus blue me jackets territoryThe answer to the last part is definitely no. NHL doesn't want to come to Cleveland because I think that Cleveland is the Columbus blue me jackets
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Hockey thrives in football towns. See - Dallas, Boston, Chicago, Buffalo, Pittsburgh,.DC, Denver, Philadelphia
Put a winner out there and they will come. Look at Las Vegas? Who would guess hockey would make it there. Or Dallas, Tampa Bay, Nashville.
There is nothing to say that hockey could not have thrived here in Cleveland. It was really never, ever given a chance. While maybe initially attendance was off, interest in the team was starting to catch on. It was really bad management.....or misfeasance if not malfeasance that caused things to go wrong. There was also apparently some gouging going on in their lease arrangement with the Coliseum. Not sure who was running the Coliseum at that point (Nick Mileti? or someone else)
There is nothing to say that hockey could not have thrived here in Cleveland. It was really never, ever given a chance. While maybe initially attendance was off, interest in the team was starting to catch on. It was really bad management.....or misfeasance if not malfeasance that caused things to go wrong. There was also apparently some gouging going on in their lease arrangement with the Coliseum. Not sure who was running the Coliseum at that point (Nick Mileti? or someone else)
If there was only the Browns, Indians and the NHL team in Cleveland... and assuming Columbus wasn't given an expansion team.... Yes, I believe Cleveland could have been a decent NHL town. Seems like the Monsters get good support.
But I still stick to my assertion that Cleveland is not a big enough market for four pro teams... For a NHL team to have succeeded in Cleveland, there could not have been the Cavs.
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