L. Bell/Steelers fail to reach agreement - last year in Pittsburgh?
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No way he sits out half the season. He is looking for a big pay day next off season and sitting out will turn teams off. If he were smart he will show up to camp, I hope he isn't smart.
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https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/report_le_39veon_bell_turned_down_5_year_70_million_deal/s1_12680_26836694 no we don't need to be the team to pay this premma'donna next season.. how much do ya need per touch in a pass happy league? #selfishLabia
Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends -
https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/report_le_39veon_bell_turned_down_5_year_70_million_deal/s1_12680_26836694 no we don't need to be the team to pay this premma'donna next season.. how much do ya need per touch in a pass happy league? #selfishLabia
https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/report_le_39veon_bell_turned_down_5_year_70_million_deal/s1_12680_26836694 no we don't need to be the team to pay this premma'donna next season.. how much do ya need per touch in a pass happy league? #selfishLabia
Its "Prima Donna.. Not Premma...
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How much of Bell's success would you attribute to playing for the best organization in professional sports (meaning they know how to draft and develop players to fit their philosophy better than anyone else in professional sports), and to a somewhat lesser extent for a top 5 offense with a definite first ballot HOF QB and a likely first ballot HOF wide receiver?
Just saying, put Leveon Bell in another organization, and on another offense, and you might not see the same production out of him.
For someone other than Pittsburgh, he could very well go from really, really Shmucking good to above average.
How much of Bell's success would you attribute to playing for the best organization in professional sports (meaning they know how to draft and develop players to fit their philosophy better than anyone else in professional sports), and to a somewhat lesser extent for a top 5 offense with a definite first ballot HOF QB and a likely first ballot HOF wide receiver?
Just saying, put Leveon Bell in another organization, and on another offense, and you might not see the same production out of him.
For someone other than Pittsburgh, he could very well go from really, really Shmucking good to above average.
I put little of Bell's success on the organization per se. His talents (and those of BR, Brown etc.) help make the organization, not the other way around. He could easily have had the same production elsewhere. In theory he could have had more production, if he had not had to share the ball with Brown etc.
Nevertheless, with the mileage he will have had on him by the end of this season, it is still possible that he would have a limited "shelf life" after this season. Maybe he is one of those Frank Gore types that can be productive into even his mid 30s, but those guys are rare.
In the last 10 years the league's leading rushers have all been 26 and under....except for Adrian Peterson.
And here is an interesting factoid:
In the history of the NFL and the AFL going back to 1932....only 3 times has a RB led the league in rushing who was 30 or older:
2015 Adrian Peterson age 30
2004 Curtis Martin age 31
1950 Marion Motley age 30
I know Bell is not that old, but last year he led the NFL in rushing attempts with 321, and you never know, it may be possible that someone's skills can drop like a hammer when they reach a certain point.
Nevertheless, it seems that after this year, whether or not he can or cannot prove durable, he will almost certainly be doing it for someone else.
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https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/report_le_39veon_bell_turned_down_5_year_70_million_deal/s1_12680_26836694 no we don't need to be the team to pay this premma'donna next season.. how much do ya need per touch in a pass happy league? #selfishLabia
https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/report_le_39veon_bell_turned_down_5_year_70_million_deal/s1_12680_26836694 no we don't need to be the team to pay this premma'donna next season.. how much do ya need per touch in a pass happy league? #selfishLabia
A Pre Madonna? What would that be like Debbie Harry , Olivia Newton John, Petula Clark, Debbie Boone...or the like?
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He will skip camp and sign the Tag at the last hour before the season.
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https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/report_le_39veon_bell_turned_down_5_year_70_million_deal/s1_12680_26836694 no we don't need to be the team to pay this premma'donna next season.. how much do ya need per touch in a pass happy league? #selfishLabia
https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/report_le_39veon_bell_turned_down_5_year_70_million_deal/s1_12680_26836694 no we don't need to be the team to pay this premma'donna next season.. how much do ya need per touch in a pass happy league? #selfishLabia
If Bell thinks a team is going to hand him a $70 million contract with $30 million guaranteed next year, both him and his agent are nuts.
EDIT: Here's the #s from Spotrac. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/rankings/base/ Bell thinks he's worth Aaron Rodgers money, and a lot more than Ben.
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https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/report_le_39veon_bell_turned_down_5_year_70_million_deal/s1_12680_26836694 no we don't need to be the team to pay this premma'donna next season.. how much do ya need per touch in a pass happy league? #selfishLabia
If Bell thinks a team is going to hand him a $70 million contract with $30 million guaranteed next year, both him and his agent are nuts.
EDIT: Here's the #s from Spotrac. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/rankings/base/ Bell thinks he's worth Aaron Rodgers money, and a lot more than Ben.
If Bell thinks a team is going to hand him a $70 million contract with $30 million guaranteed next year, both him and his agent are nuts.
EDIT: Here's the #s from Spotrac. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/rankings/base/ Bell thinks he's worth Aaron Rodgers money, and a lot more than Ben.
At most I think he may have 1 or 2 more good years in him.
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If Bell thinks a team is going to hand him a $70 million contract with $30 million guaranteed next year, both him and his agent are nuts.
EDIT: Here's the #s from Spotrac. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/rankings/base/ Bell thinks he's worth Aaron Rodgers money, and a lot more than Ben.
At most I think he may have 1 or 2 more good years in him.
At most I think he may have 1 or 2 more good years in him.
This is from ESPN earlier in the year Gip- MHO Le'veon has an extremely inflated notion of his "value".
Last July, Bell turned down a long-term contract that reports said was worth up to $30 million in the first two years because he felt the team didn't value his full skill set.
Asked what the Steelers should do this off season, Bell said simply: "Value me."
"Just get the numbers straight, exactly where we want them. I'm not going to settle for anything," Bell said. "I know what I do and what I bring to the table. I'm not going out here getting the ball 400 times if I'm not getting what I feel I'm valued at."
Looking at those Spotrac salaries, there's probably at least 10 guys making less than Bell I'd pick for my roster if given the chance.
PS- maybe the Steelers should have signed him to that cap busting salary- a plus for the Browns when they get in cap hell.
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In all likelihood this is Bells last year as a Pittsburgh Steeler. He is going to set out the entire off-season and not report until game one. Would you trade Carlos Hyde and a third round pick To the Steelers conditional on #BAL agreeing to a long-term contract with the Browns.
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Look, I don't like the Steelers, and I hate MSU, but Bell is a hell of a back. The risk of injury he puts himself at with the workload at his position probably warrants a lot of compensation. Now is it what he wants, the market will decide.
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
In all likelihood this is Bells last year as a Pittsburgh Steeler. He is going to set out the entire off-season and not report until game one. Would you trade Carlos Hyde and a third round pick To the Steelers conditional on #BAL agreeing to a long-term contract with the Browns.
In all likelihood this is Bells last year as a Pittsburgh Steeler. He is going to set out the entire off-season and not report until game one. Would you trade Carlos Hyde and a third round pick To the Steelers conditional on #BAL agreeing to a long-term contract with the Browns.
Answer: No way in hell!! Keep the prima dona in Pissburgh & ruin THEIR salary cap.
Mike
IN DORSEY I TRUST -
I think that Bell will be a problem all season.
Why risk injury and jeopardizing your shot at a big contract? Bell may not get the crazy money he wants, but the new contract signing bonus alone will be a nice chunk of change. I see him coasting at times saving himself for his new team.
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Screw him then. Sure, he has been a hell of a back. But as far as I am concerned he can tear his achilles, or his MCL/ACL...ACLU/UCLA...all of the above.
Why is everybody talking so much on here about the Shittsburg Squealers?
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In all likelihood this is Bells last year as a Pittsburgh Steeler. He is going to set out the entire off-season and not report until game one. Would you trade Carlos Hyde and a third round pick To the Steelers conditional on #BAL agreeing to a long-term contract with the Browns.
Answer: No way in hell!! Keep the prima dona in Pissburgh & ruin THEIR salary cap.
Mike
Answer: No way in hell!! Keep the prima dona in Pissburgh & ruin THEIR salary cap.
Mike
Yes, along with big ticket guys big ben and a. brown......many die hard steeler fans totally agree.
GO BROWNS!
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In all likelihood this is Bells last year as a Pittsburgh Steeler. He is going to set out the entire off-season and not report until game one. Would you trade Carlos Hyde and a third round pick To the Steelers conditional on #BAL agreeing to a long-term contract with the Browns.
In all likelihood this is Bells last year as a Pittsburgh Steeler. He is going to sit out the entire off-season and not report until game one. Would you trade Carlos Hyde and a third round pick To the Steelers conditional on #BAL agreeing to a long-term contract with the Browns.
No way in hell, as others have said. He wants double what any other RB is making this year. He wants more than a bunch of QBs, and every top DE\pass rusher. I'll give you a different scenario. Think the Texans would trade Clowney or Watt to the Steelers (who both make far less) for Bell straight up? Heehee.
Screw him then. Sure, he has been a hell of a back. But as far as I am concerned he can tear his achilles, or his MCL/ACL...ACLU/UCLA...all of the above.
Why is everybody talking so much on here about the Shittsburg Squealers?
Just fun to talk about a guy who has an extremely inflated value of what he thinks he's worth. The Steelers problems should make you very happy Gip.
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Look, I don't like the Steelers, and I hate MSU, but Bell is a hell of a back. The risk of injury he puts himself at with the workload at his position probably warrants a lot of compensation. Now is it what he wants, the market will decide.
Look, I don't like the Steelers, and I hate MSU, but Bell is a hell of a back. The risk of injury he puts himself at with the workload at his position probably warrants a lot of compensation. Now is it what he wants, the market will decide.
And the sad part of it is that "bell cow" RB's really get screwed in this proposition. Basically any other position on the field a healthy 26-27 year old would be considered in their prime. However, RB's (fairly) don't get that benefit of the doubt, at all.
With that being said, if there's even a whiff of truth he got that 5 year offer, he was a moron to turn it down.
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Screw him then. Sure, he has been a hell of a back. But as far as I am concerned he can tear his achilles, or his MCL/ACL...ACLU/UCLA...all of the above.
Why is everybody talking so much on here about the Shittsburg Squealers?
Screw him then. Sure, he has been a hell of a back. But as far as I am concerned he can tear his achilles, or his MCL/ACL...ACLU/UCLA...all of the above.
Why is everybody talking so much on here about the Shittsburg Squealers?
Bad karma.
The Steelers are the top dog to beat. To be the best you must beat the best.
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Screw him then. Sure, he has been a hell of a back. But as far as I am concerned he can tear his achilles, or his MCL/ACL...ACLU/UCLA...all of the above.
Why is everybody talking so much on here about the Shittsburg Squealers?
Bad karma.
The Steelers are the top dog to beat. To be the best you must beat the best.
Bad karma.
The Steelers are the top dog to beat. To be the best you must beat the best.
They are only the best by default....because none of the other teams in this division have even been mediocre. So, the barely above average Steelers take the division crown.
Let me correct that: Most of the Steeler team is barely above average, if that. However, they have the exceptional talent at 4 spots: QB/BR RB/Bell WR/Brown, and OL coach/Munchak. So, yes, I believe that parity is such in the NFL that superior talent in just a few places can make a difference.
I will even agree with you to a certain point...that Tomlin is not an exceptionally talented HC. But he is a good solid HC that by no means should be terminated. But...if the Steelers didn't have the 4 assets mentioned above...perhaps you would really see how good Tomlin would be as an HC if he did have this exceptional talent to work with.
(that said, even with these exceptionally talented assets....other teams are better overall).
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