Has there ever been a more pivotal/important season for the Browns?
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You all feed this troll way too much
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You all feed this troll way too much
It's a day before training camp. Too bored not to feed it. LOL! ?
So...................................................my response is.....................Wait 'till next year!?
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The actual serious answer to the question of "is this the most pivotal season in the history of the Browns"...the answer is: Certainly not, by any means.
Not as critical as 1946, their first season in existance. Not as critical as 1950...their first season in the NFL. Not as critical as any of the seasons when they were defending their crown.....or any of the seasons in which they lost the title game and were trying to get back to it. Not as critical as 1963, the first year under Blanton Collier after the firing of Paul Brown.
Not as critical as the years that Skorich took over for Collier, or when Forrest Gregg took over for Skorich, or when Rutigliano took over for Gregg, or when Marty took over for Sam. Not as critical as when Belichick took over for Carson. Not as critical as 1995, a year after the Browns had their only winning season under BB...and were hopefully going to continue with a playoff run until Modell sabotaged his team and the city. Not as critical as 1999 when the Browns came back after a 3 year hiatus.
And it is no more critical than the like 20 years since then when the Browns have been trying to recover from losing...and the various years that they have changed directions with new HCs, and new GMs.
So...the answer is simply, NO. Absolutely not. This year probably does not rate among the Top 20 critical seasons in Browns history......as we stand right now. If they do perform a miraculous turnaround and really make something of this season, it could catapult far up the scale when you would look at it in hindsight. But right here, right now? No. It is just another season when the Browns are trying to win some games. Being 0-16 last year is really no difference in the scheme of things than if they were 2-14, 3-13.
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You all feed this troll way too much
That's so true but in the offseason its so tempting to do it and see what happens.
Like feeding the wild Canadian geese near your house when you know later they will just s.hit all over your car.

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You all feed this troll way too much
Lets put it this way....if you ignore the source of the question, it is still a semi-legitimate question at its core. "How pivotal is this season in Browns history". In my previous post on here I tried to give a fair answer to that particular question...while putting the source of the question out of my mind.
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Every season is pivotal in my mind.. You are only as good as the year that preceded the last year.. Every year.. At least to me.. You wipe the slate clean and start from ground zero.. That the approach I would take.. Every team and athlete is constantly proving themselves.. It's just how life is.. Not only in Football.. but in careers as well..
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You all feed this troll way too much
That would explain his staunch waist line.
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Yes it's pivotal. There's fans like us, who attend, watch through thick and thin. Maybe not so pivotal for we kind of fans.
It's certainly pivotal for the fence sitters. Fans who got turned off by the losing, Haslam, or Hue. This season could reel them back in.
Yes it's pivotal. There's fans like us, who attend, watch through thick and thin. Maybe not so pivotal for we kind of fans.
It's certainly pivotal for the fence sitters. Fans who got turned off by the losing, Haslam, or Hue. This season could reel them back in.
Well said, but not all Fans either LIVE in Berea (you), or were BORN there (me)! ?
Mike
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ummmm, let's see. . . . There is a new QB and a new coach calling the plays. Isn't that the same every year? I would just like to see some progress and some results to build on.
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ummmm, let's see. . . . There is a new QB and a new coach calling the plays. Isn't that the same every year? I would just like to see some progress and some results to build on.
ummmm, let's see. . . . There is a new QB and a new coach calling the plays. Isn't that the same every year? I would just like to see some progress and some results to build on.
Yea, as Yogi said, "Its Deja Vu all over again.
And I guess some reference to Groundhog day is appropriate. Which is why I say it is not that high on the "pivotal season" list.
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Forget commentary about what the team needs to do, or fix, or any of the analytical schidt. Can you recall or cite a more crucial season than this one?
Should all you guys be correct and the team does well, and I don't know what " well" would mean. 7 - 9 or better I think paints the team as WOW, and makes the year enjoyable, and the Browns and off season story.
4 - 6 wins leaves the Browns as the most boring, lackluster, uninteresting football team in the history of the NFL.
3 wins or less ( Camp Ghoolie) and you have the official laughing stock of all professional sports. 3 wins or less, and Haslam will get out of town. 3 wins or less, I think moving this schidtpile becomes inevitable.
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Win win situation. If they win 9 or more games, we see postseason football. If we win 7 or less, Hue is gone & a better coach is in.
Win win situation. If they win 9 or more games, we see postseason football. If we win 7 or less, Hue is gone & a better coach is in.
What basis do you have for believing 7 wins means Hue is fired? Seriously, there is no logic to back you up. Hue went 1 - 15 and kept his job. He then went 0 - 16 and kept his job. So your logic is if he goes 7 - 9 he loses his job? Dude, look at this numerically.............
1 - 15 - Keeps Job
0 - 16 Keeps Job
7 - 9 Gets Fired?
WTF drug are you on?
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2 - 14 or some such crap, Haslam will sell and the team WILL face being moved. This IS the most pivotal season the Browns ever faced. Their first year in operation and first year in the NFL were dull, unimportant, low stress. Nobody expects much from a 1st-year team. The future of the fake Browns in Cleveland ride on the success of 2018. Just watch.
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2 - 14 or some such crap, Haslam will sell and the team WILL face being moved. This IS the most pivotal season the Browns ever faced. Their first year in operation and first year in the NFL were dull, unimportant, low stress. Nobody expects much from a 1st-year team. The future of the fake Browns in Cleveland ride on the success of 2018. Just watch.
2 - 14 or some such crap, Haslam will sell and the team WILL face being moved. This IS the most pivotal season the Browns ever faced. Their first year in operation and first year in the NFL were dull, unimportant, low stress. Nobody expects much from a 1st-year team. The future of the fake Browns in Cleveland ride on the success of 2018. Just watch.
The ignorance is palpable. The Browns can't leave for many many years due to their lease. And Jimmy can make money hand over fist whether or not the team wins or not. So why the hell would he sell
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2 - 14 or some such crap, Haslam will sell and the team WILL face being moved. This IS the most pivotal season the Browns ever faced. Their first year in operation and first year in the NFL were dull, unimportant, low stress. Nobody expects much from a 1st-year team. The future of the fake Browns in Cleveland ride on the success of 2018. Just watch.
The ignorance is palpable. The Browns can't leave for many many years due to their lease. And Jimmy can make money hand over fist whether or not the team wins or not. So why the hell would he sell
why the hell would he sell
Haslam move the team? That I couldn't see. But SELL the team. THAT I wouldn't rule out totally...because of constant bad press following mounting losses (W/L that is). I mean, Haslam has really done nothing but brought the team to record badness...and ugliness. HE needs wins almost as bad as Hue. - and he's sold / selling his fuel / price gouging business.
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Win win situation. If they win 9 or more games, we see postseason football. If we win 7 or less, Hue is gone & a better coach is in.
What basis do you have for believing 7 wins means Hue is fired? Seriously, there is no logic to back you up. Hue went 1 - 15 and kept his job. He then went 0 - 16 and kept his job. So your logic is if he goes 7 - 9 he loses his job? Dude, look at this numerically.............
1 - 15 - Keeps Job
0 - 16 Keeps Job
7 - 9 Gets Fired?
WTF drug are you on?
What basis do you have for believing 7 wins means Hue is fired? Seriously, there is no logic to back you up. Hue went 1 - 15 and kept his job. He then went 0 - 16 and kept his job. So your logic is if he goes 7 - 9 he loses his job? Dude, look at this numerically.............
1 - 15 - Keeps Job
0 - 16 Keeps Job
7 - 9 Gets Fired?
WTF drug are you on?
Look at the roster additions. Furthermore, Hue isn't Dorsey's " Guy".
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2 - 14 or some such crap, Haslam will sell and the team WILL face being moved. This IS the most pivotal season the Browns ever faced. Their first year in operation and first year in the NFL were dull, unimportant, low stress. Nobody expects much from a 1st-year team. The future of the fake Browns in Cleveland ride on the success of 2018. Just watch.
The ignorance is palpable. The Browns can't leave for many many years due to their lease. And Jimmy can make money hand over fist whether or not the team wins or not. So why the hell would he sell
The ignorance is palpable. The Browns can't leave for many many years due to their lease. And Jimmy can make money hand over fist whether or not the team wins or not. So why the hell would he sell
Leases are made to be broken. It's definitely possible.
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Forget commentary about what the team needs to do, or fix, or any of the analytical schidt. Can you recall or cite a more crucial season than this one?
Should all you guys be correct and the team does well, and I don't know what " well" would mean. 7 - 9 or better I think paints the team as WOW, and makes the year enjoyable, and the Browns and off season story.
4 - 6 wins leaves the Browns as the most boring, lackluster, uninteresting football team in the history of the NFL.
3 wins or less ( Camp Ghoolie) and you have the official laughing stock of all professional sports. 3 wins or less, and Haslam will get out of town. 3 wins or less, I think moving this schidtpile becomes inevitable.
Forget commentary about what the team needs to do, or fix, or any of the analytical schidt. Can you recall or cite a more crucial season than this one?
Should all you guys be correct and the team does well, and I don't know what " well" would mean. 7 - 9 or better I think paints the team as WOW, and makes the year enjoyable, and the Browns and off season story.
4 - 6 wins leaves the Browns as the most boring, lackluster, uninteresting football team in the history of the NFL.
3 wins or less ( Camp Ghoolie) and you have the official laughing stock of all professional sports. 3 wins or less, and Haslam will get out of town. 3 wins or less, I think moving this schidtpile becomes inevitable.
Yes, it is.
Lets face it, the Browns have had a transnational off season. The offense where the struggles have originated, has been totally revamped. The only area where there is uncertainty is at WR - besides Landry. Louis is done. Coleman and Gordon production would be icing on the cake. I bet Higgins has a better season with Taylor throwing that ball. The great news on Callaway is encouraging, but lots of guys look awesome in practice. If Dorsey pulls the trigger, signing Dez Bryant is sure going alleviate some of the concern at that position.
Pittsburgh game 1 will be a Win.
New Orleans game 2 will be a loss. Its typical to have a let down after a big win.
2 wins per every 4 games would be great and if you can steal a couple of wins 10 - 6 likely gets you in the post season.
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