Dez on his way ?
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can we not bring up kizer, like at all? honest to god id gotten him out of my system and essentially forgot who are qb was last year. Obviously if pressed i would rem it but id done a goid job of putting the chargers and packers game, among others, in the back of my mind. Its the same weedons time here, u technically remember it but the vividness is mercufully diminished. I saw the shovelpass live and its something i never thought, until kizer came along, that id see its equal in stupidity
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Are we really discussing the merits of Kenny Britt right now? And posting stats and Shít?
Ok, carry on...
Are we really discussing the merits of Kenny Britt right now? And posting stats and Shít?
Ok, carry on...
Why not? As I said when we signed him- beware of guys coming off of contract years. Hah- he's so great, his current contract with the Patriots is only around $500k more than vet minimum. Looking at spotrac, almost none of that is guaranteed. He can be cut at any time, and it only costs Bill and the Patriots $150k to make him go away.
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Kizer struggled? He has no business in the NFL, so stop acting like Britt had anyone competent throwing the ball in Cleveland. Yew, had his playcalling duties stripped. What were you expecting from Britt? To light up the AFCN?
Do you really think that a player can to go to a new team and not have a learning curve? Forget about Briit last year in NE. He was not in the NE training camp.
His number are not nearly as dire as you make them out to be. In 92 games, Briit has averaged 52 yards a game, 3 receptions per game.
4 seasons of at least 681 yards and 3 TDs
2010 - 12 games 42 receptions, 775 yards and 9 TDs
2011- 3 games 17 receptions, 289 yards and 3 TDs.
If he makes the team its not because of Edelman. Its because NE sees potential.
was britt even activated for any of the playoff games last year ?
oh wait I know the answer NO
was britt even activated for any of the playoff games last year ?
oh wait I know the answer NO
Because he did not know the offense.
Its not baseball.
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Are we really discussing the merits of Kenny Britt right now? And posting stats and Shít?
Ok, carry on...
Are we really discussing the merits of Kenny Britt right now? And posting stats and Shít?
Ok, carry on...
Did you know he was a 1st round pick?
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More on the what not to do thread:
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- Transaction, fine, and suspension data since 2015
December 13, 2017: New England Patriots signed WR Kenny Britt to a two-year contract.
December 11, 2017: Cleveland Browns cut WR Kenny Britt.
December 8, 2017: Cleveland Browns waived WR Kenny Britt.
March 11, 2017: Cleveland Browns signed WR Kenny Britt to a four-year, $32.5 million contract. <-----
March 18, 2015: Los Angeles Rams re-signed WR Kenny Britt to a two-year, $14 million contract.
April 7, 2014: Los Angeles Rams signed WR Kenny Britt to a one-year, $1.4 million contract.
September 11, 2012: Tennessee Titans lifted the suspension on WR Kenny Britt.
July 25, 2012: Tennessee Titans placed WR Kenny Britt on the physically unable to perform list.
February 6, 2012: Tennessee Titans has been taken off IR.
September 28, 2011: Tennessee Titans placed on IR.
More on the what not to do thread:
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- Transaction, fine, and suspension data since 2015
December 13, 2017: New England Patriots signed WR Kenny Britt to a two-year contract.
December 11, 2017: Cleveland Browns cut WR Kenny Britt.
December 8, 2017: Cleveland Browns waived WR Kenny Britt.
March 11, 2017: Cleveland Browns signed WR Kenny Britt to a four-year, $32.5 million contract. <-----
March 18, 2015: Los Angeles Rams re-signed WR Kenny Britt to a two-year, $14 million contract.
April 7, 2014: Los Angeles Rams signed WR Kenny Britt to a one-year, $1.4 million contract.
September 11, 2012: Tennessee Titans lifted the suspension on WR Kenny Britt.
July 25, 2012: Tennessee Titans placed WR Kenny Britt on the physically unable to perform list.
February 6, 2012: Tennessee Titans has been taken off IR.
September 28, 2011: Tennessee Titans placed on IR.
Suspended 6 years ago.
Cancer.
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But somehow 2016 Britt racked up 1000 yards and 5 TDs.
2017 Larry Fitzgerald 1156 yards and 6 TDs. Garbage.
? Come on Lancelot - all that sniffing Britt's garbage is making you silly! There's nothing garbage about Fitzgerald's 109 receptions in his 14th NFL season in 2017 - that's why you made sure you didn't include them.
Here's Fitzgerald's career stats where his average # of receptions, yards and TDs blow away Kenny Britt's. In fact, count how many times he had more than Britt's career best of 68 rec and 1002 yards.
Year Team G Rec Yds Avg Yds/G Lng TD 20+ 40+ 1st FUM 2017 Arizona Cardinals 16 109 1,156 10.6 72.2 37 6 16 0 66 1 2016 Arizona Cardinals 16 107 1,023 9.6 63.9 32 6 8 0 59 2 2015 Arizona Cardinals 16 109 1,215 11.1 75.9 44 9 17 1 65 2 2014 Arizona Cardinals 14 63 784 12.4 56.0 80T 2 11 1 39 1 2013 Arizona Cardinals 16 82 954 11.6 59.6 75T 10 11 3 49 1 2012 Arizona Cardinals 16 71 798 11.2 49.9 37T 4 9 0 44 0 2011 Arizona Cardinals 16 80 1,411 17.6 88.2 73T 8 25 8 61 0 2010 Arizona Cardinals 16 90 1,137 12.6 71.1 41 6 14 1 59 0 2009 Arizona Cardinals 16 97 1,092 11.3 68.2 34T 13 12 0 69 0 2008 Arizona Cardinals 16 96 1,431 14.9 89.4 78T 12 20 5 66 1 2007 Arizona Cardinals 15 100 1,409 14.1 93.9 48T 10 19 4 69 3 2006 Arizona Cardinals 13 69 946 13.7 72.8 57 6 11 2 52 0 2005 Arizona Cardinals 16 103 1,409 13.7 88.1 47 10 27 4 67 0 2004 Arizona Cardinals 16 58 780 13.4 48.8 48 8 15 1 36 1 ? Come on Lancelot - all that sniffing Britt's garbage is making you silly! There's nothing garbage about Fitzgerald's 109 receptions in his 14th NFL season in 2017 - that's why you made sure you didn't include them.
Here's Fitzgerald's career stats where his average # of receptions, yards and TDs blow away Kenny Britt's. In fact, count how many times he had more than Britt's career best of 68 rec and 1002 yards.
Britt had a season as good as Fitzgerald.
You think that Antonio Brown could come to the Browns last year and Kizer would be Ben. Hallucinations are no laughing matter.
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Might be more productive than Miles Austin ?
Miles Austin did not do to bad for us. Til he got hurt, Kenny Britt was the 1 laughing all the way to the bank, Oh and that Bowe guy from KC
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? Come on Lancelot - all that sniffing Britt's garbage is making you silly! There's nothing garbage about Fitzgerald's 109 receptions in his 14th NFL season in 2017 - that's why you made sure you didn't include them.
Here's Fitzgerald's career stats where his average # of receptions, yards and TDs blow away Kenny Britt's. In fact, count how many times he had more than Britt's career best of 68 rec and 1002 yards.
Britt had a season as good as Fitzgerald.
You think that Antonio Brown could come to the Browns last year and Kizer would be Ben. Hallucinations are no laughing matter.
Britt had a season as good as Fitzgerald.
Hallucinations are no laughing matter.
We can see that - but you're sharing them anyway so I'm ?
Telling me 68 receptions in 2016 is as good as Larry's 107 receptions in the same year is hallucinating... As I said, Fitzgerald had 109 receptions a year later in his 14th NFL season.
Thinking Britt is as good as Larry Fitzgerald is hallucinating.
Britt's career stats show a disappointing 8 years of 9 and you're telling me that's all because of the 9 weeks had had to spend with Kizer in 2017 which went a lot better than 2 rec for 23 yards 0 TDs in the 3 weeks he spent w/ Brady/BB in NE.
Lancelot, you got more "yeah but" than a Budweiser Frog Commercial. I'm all done with this topic. There's nothing more to say. Why don't you share your school girl crush on the guy with NE fans.
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Britt had a season as good as Fitzgerald.
Hallucinations are no laughing matter.
We can see that - but you're sharing them anyway so I'm ?
Telling me 68 receptions in 2016 is as good as Larry's 107 receptions in the same year is hallucinating... As I said, Fitzgerald had 109 receptions a year later in his 14th NFL season.
Thinking Britt is as good as Larry Fitzgerald is hallucinating.
Britt's career stats show a disappointing 8 years of 9 and you're telling me that's all because of the 9 weeks had had to spend with Kizer in 2017 which went a lot better than 2 rec for 23 yards 0 TDs in the 3 weeks he spent w/ Brady/BB in NE.
Lancelot, you got more "yeah but" than a Budweiser Frog Commercial. I'm all done with this topic. There's nothing more to say. Why don't you share your school girl crush on the guy with NE fans.
We can see that - but you're sharing them anyway so I'm ?
Telling me 68 receptions in 2016 is as good as Larry's 107 receptions in the same year is hallucinating... As I said, Fitzgerald had 109 receptions a year later in his 14th NFL season.
Thinking Britt is as good as Larry Fitzgerald is hallucinating.
Britt's career stats show a disappointing 8 years of 9 and you're telling me that's all because of the 9 weeks had had to spend with Kizer in 2017 which went a lot better than 2 rec for 23 yards 0 TDs in the 3 weeks he spent w/ Brady/BB in NE.
Lancelot, you got more "yeah but" than a Budweiser Frog Commercial. I'm all done with this topic. There's nothing more to say. Why don't you share your school girl crush on the guy with NE fans.
Foolgel do you understand that Britts 14 yards per reception is better than Fitzgeralds 10 yards per reception? Britt achieved virtually the same yards and TDs as a HOFer with less receptions.
Im not saying that Britt is Fitzgerald, but you keep on blathering about that. Youre saying Britt is garbage and that is nonsense. Throughout Britts career he has shown flashes of being very good.
Using the Browns last year as evidence that Britt is a bum is really goofy. Britt was brought in to replace Pryor who had 1000 yards in 2016.
The NFL does not work like baseball Foolgel where you plug in a new shortstop and keep on winning. You just dont understand though. How are the Indians doing?
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Do you really think you need to tell anyone on this board that Kizer struggled - especially the guy who called him the Forfeit?
That said, if you're going to argue all Britt needed was an accurate QB for much better production - in this comparison Britt had 2 receptions per game with Kizer and only 2 receptions in 3 games played with Brady. As I said to you already - the experienced Brady preferred the receivers that get open and run good routes.
You can celebrate that 2016 exception to the rule all you want. I'm not nearly as impressed with a 1st round NFL WR that has played 9 years and only exceeded 42 receptions once and only exceeded 775 yards once while averaging only 3.5 TDs a year.
FWIW, I tried to talk myself into him too when he was 1 of the only available veteran WRs that would have touched our 2017 situation with a 10 foot pole.
Kizer struggled? He has no business in the NFL, so stop acting like Britt had anyone competent throwing the ball in Cleveland. Yew, had his playcalling duties stripped. What were you expecting from Britt? To light up the AFCN?
Do you really think that a player can to go to a new team and not have a learning curve? Forget about Briit last year in NE. He was not in the NE training camp.
His number are not nearly as dire as you make them out to be. In 92 games, Briit has averaged 52 yards a game, 3 receptions per game.
4 seasons of at least 681 yards and 3 TDs
2010 - 12 games 42 receptions, 775 yards and 9 TDs
2011- 3 games 17 receptions, 289 yards and 3 TDs.
If he makes the team its not because of Edelman. Its because NE sees potential.
Kizer struggled? He has no business in the NFL, so stop acting like Britt had anyone competent throwing the ball in Cleveland. Yew, had his playcalling duties stripped. What were you expecting from Britt? To light up the AFCN?
Do you really think that a player can to go to a new team and not have a learning curve? Forget about Briit last year in NE. He was not in the NE training camp.
His number are not nearly as dire as you make them out to be. In 92 games, Briit has averaged 52 yards a game, 3 receptions per game.
4 seasons of at least 681 yards and 3 TDs
2010 - 12 games 42 receptions, 775 yards and 9 TDs
2011- 3 games 17 receptions, 289 yards and 3 TDs.
If he makes the team its not because of Edelman. Its because NE sees potential.
I have a compromise that hopefully both of you can agree on:
BOTH Kizer and Britt sucked swamp water.
OK...will that do it for you?
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Are we really discussing the merits of Kenny Britt right now? And posting stats and Shít?
Ok, carry on...
Did you know he was a 1st round pick?
Did you know he was a 1st round pick?
So were Charles Rogers, and Jamarcus Russell.....and Mike Junkin. And a lot of other busts. Maybe he is not an epic bust like those guys were....but he was not first round talent...or production in his career.
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The NFL does not work like baseball Foolgel where you plug in a new shortstop and keep on winning. You just dont understand though.
Actually...it can. If you have a QB like Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady etc......you CAN just plug in a new WR and keep on winning. Those QBs have proven it.
What you cannot do is to plug in a mediocre, or worse WR, and expect a losing team to start winning. (which seems to be what you are arguing about Britt)
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Did you know he was a 1st round pick?
So were Charles Rogers, and Jamarcus Russell.....and Mike Junkin. And a lot of other busts. Maybe he is not an epic bust like those guys were....but he was not first round talent...or production in his career.
So were Charles Rogers, and Jamarcus Russell.....and Mike Junkin. And a lot of other busts. Maybe he is not an epic bust like those guys were....but he was not first round talent...or production in his career.
I never said that Britt was.
He was drafted too high. It happens.
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The NFL does not work like baseball Foolgel where you plug in a new shortstop and keep on winning. You just dont understand though.
Actually...it can. If you have a QB like Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady etc......you CAN just plug in a new WR and keep on winning. Those QBs have proven it.
What you cannot do is to plug in a mediocre, or worse WR, and expect a losing team to start winning. (which seems to be what you are arguing about Britt)
The NFL does not work like baseball Foolgel where you plug in a new shortstop and keep on winning. You just dont understand though.
Actually...it can. If you have a QB like Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady etc......you CAN just plug in a new WR and keep on winning. Those QBs have proven it.
What you cannot do is to plug in a mediocre, or worse WR, and expect a losing team to start winning. (which seems to be what you are arguing about Britt)
They have to learn the teams offense and terminology.
Its not that easy.
No, I am arguing that Britt has shown flashes of being very good.
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The NFL does not work like baseball Foolgel where you plug in a new shortstop and keep on winning. You just dont understand though.
Actually...it can. If you have a QB like Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady etc......you CAN just plug in a new WR and keep on winning. Those QBs have proven it.
What you cannot do is to plug in a mediocre, or worse WR, and expect a losing team to start winning. (which seems to be what you are arguing about Britt)
They have to learn the teams offense and terminology.
Its not that easy.
No, I am arguing that Britt has shown flashes of being very good.
They have to learn the teams offense and terminology.
Its not that easy.
No, I am arguing that Britt has shown flashes of being very good.
Well....sure, anyone that puts on an NFL uniform, even a training camp grunt has to learn his teams terminology....and what to do at whatever position he plays. And, I suppose that he did show flashes of being good, it is why the Browns signed him. But...where were ANY of those flashes here? Nowhere clearly. John Dorsey could not wait to dump this guy. I think he did it within like 24 hours of being hired here.
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The NFL does not work like baseball Foolgel where you plug in a new shortstop and keep on winning. You just dont understand though.
Actually...it can. If you have a QB like Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady etc......you CAN just plug in a new WR and keep on winning. Those QBs have proven it.
What you cannot do is to plug in a mediocre, or worse WR, and expect a losing team to start winning. (which seems to be what you are arguing about Britt)
They have to learn the teams offense and terminology.
Its not that easy.
No, I am arguing that Britt has shown flashes of being very good.
They have to learn the teams offense and terminology.
Its not that easy.
No, I am arguing that Britt has shown flashes of being very good.
Career TD highs and lows 9, 5, 4, 3, 3, 3, 3, 2, 0. Eh. But well paid!
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We can see that - but you're sharing them anyway so I'm ?
Telling me 68 receptions in 2016 is as good as Larry's 107 receptions in the same year is hallucinating... As I said, Fitzgerald had 109 receptions a year later in his 14th NFL season.
Thinking Britt is as good as Larry Fitzgerald is hallucinating.
Britt's career stats show a disappointing 8 years of 9 and you're telling me that's all because of the 9 weeks had had to spend with Kizer in 2017 which went a lot better than 2 rec for 23 yards 0 TDs in the 3 weeks he spent w/ Brady/BB in NE.
Lancelot, you got more "yeah but" than a Budweiser Frog Commercial. I'm all done with this topic. There's nothing more to say. Why don't you share your school girl crush on the guy with NE fans.
Foolgel do you understand that Britts 14 yards per reception is better than Fitzgeralds 10 yards per reception? Britt achieved virtually the same yards and TDs as a HOFer with less receptions.
Im not saying that Britt is Fitzgerald, but you keep on blathering about that. Youre saying Britt is garbage and that is nonsense. Throughout Britts career he has shown flashes of being very good.
Using the Browns last year as evidence that Britt is a bum is really goofy. Britt was brought in to replace Pryor who had 1000 yards in 2016.
The NFL does not work like baseball Foolgel where you plug in a new shortstop and keep on winning. You just dont understand though. How are the Indians doing?
Using the Browns last year as evidence that Britt is a bum is really goofy. Britt was brought in to replace Pryor who had 1000 yards in 2016.
Thanks for the reminder. Pryor gave us over 1000 yards on a team that went 1-15 with QBs like Kessler, Whitehurst, Hogan and RG3andout. Britt came here for way more money and gave us far less effort and production with the guy that beat out Kessler. NOBODY except maybe Poe wanted Kizer replaced more than me last year. That doesn't mean Britt didn't perform anywhere near like a 1st round WR in 2015, 2104, 2013, 2012, 2011, 2010 and 2009.
As I said before, I lived in Nashville throughout Britt's disappointing tenure on and off the field as a 1st round draft pick. THAT, not to be confused with just 9 games with Kizer, was enough of a 1st impression to justify why I think he sucks. Already told you that earlier in our discussion but it's not what your Kizer alibi wanted to hear. In a 9 year career, Britt had only 1 year that resembled 1st round performance (not to be confused with 9 forgettable weeks in Cleveland).
If he wasn't on NE's roster - we wouldn't even be having this discussion.
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Using the Browns last year as evidence that Britt is a bum is really goofy. Britt was brought in to replace Pryor who had 1000 yards in 2016.
Thanks for the reminder. Pryor gave us over 1000 yards on a team that went 1-15 with QBs like Kessler, Whitehurst, Hogan and RG3andout. Britt came here for way more money and gave us far less effort and production with the guy that beat out Kessler. NOBODY except maybe Poe wanted Kizer replaced more than me last year. That doesn't mean Britt didn't perform anywhere near like a 1st round WR in 2015, 2104, 2013, 2012, 2011, 2010 and 2009.
As I said before, I lived in Nashville throughout Britt's disappointing tenure on and off the field as a 1st round draft pick. THAT, not to be confused with just 9 games with Kizer, was enough of a 1st impression to justify why I think he sucks. Already told you that earlier in our discussion but it's not what your Kizer alibi wanted to hear. In a 9 year career, Britt had only 1 year that resembled 1st round performance (not to be confused with 9 forgettable weeks in Cleveland).
If he wasn't on NE's roster - we wouldn't even be having this discussion.
Thanks for the reminder. Pryor gave us over 1000 yards on a team that went 1-15 with QBs like Kessler, Whitehurst, Hogan and RG3andout. Britt came here for way more money and gave us far less effort and production with the guy that beat out Kessler. NOBODY except maybe Poe wanted Kizer replaced more than me last year. That doesn't mean Britt didn't perform anywhere near like a 1st round WR in 2015, 2104, 2013, 2012, 2011, 2010 and 2009.
As I said before, I lived in Nashville throughout Britt's disappointing tenure on and off the field as a 1st round draft pick. THAT, not to be confused with just 9 games with Kizer, was enough of a 1st impression to justify why I think he sucks. Already told you that earlier in our discussion but it's not what your Kizer alibi wanted to hear. In a 9 year career, Britt had only 1 year that resembled 1st round performance (not to be confused with 9 forgettable weeks in Cleveland).
If he wasn't on NE's roster - we wouldn't even be having this discussion.
Not true at all.
Just looking at Britts entire body of work. Like his 3 games with 3 TDs and approximately 300 yards.
Where he was drafted is irrelevant at this point.
Britt did not get a fair shake in Cleveland, but he also should not have shot his way out of town. So, I can see why you would be upset.
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Using the Browns last year as evidence that Britt is a bum is really goofy. Britt was brought in to replace Pryor who had 1000 yards in 2016.
Thanks for the reminder. Pryor gave us over 1000 yards on a team that went 1-15 with QBs like Kessler, Whitehurst, Hogan and RG3andout. Britt came here for way more money and gave us far less effort and production with the guy that beat out Kessler. NOBODY except maybe Poe wanted Kizer replaced more than me last year. That doesn't mean Britt didn't perform anywhere near like a 1st round WR in 2015, 2104, 2013, 2012, 2011, 2010 and 2009.
As I said before, I lived in Nashville throughout Britt's disappointing tenure on and off the field as a 1st round draft pick. THAT, not to be confused with just 9 games with Kizer, was enough of a 1st impression to justify why I think he sucks. Already told you that earlier in our discussion but it's not what your Kizer alibi wanted to hear. In a 9 year career, Britt had only 1 year that resembled 1st round performance (not to be confused with 9 forgettable weeks in Cleveland).
If he wasn't on NE's roster - we wouldn't even be having this discussion.
Thanks for the reminder. Pryor gave us over 1000 yards on a team that went 1-15 with QBs like Kessler, Whitehurst, Hogan and RG3andout. Britt came here for way more money and gave us far less effort and production with the guy that beat out Kessler. NOBODY except maybe Poe wanted Kizer replaced more than me last year. That doesn't mean Britt didn't perform anywhere near like a 1st round WR in 2015, 2104, 2013, 2012, 2011, 2010 and 2009.
As I said before, I lived in Nashville throughout Britt's disappointing tenure on and off the field as a 1st round draft pick. THAT, not to be confused with just 9 games with Kizer, was enough of a 1st impression to justify why I think he sucks. Already told you that earlier in our discussion but it's not what your Kizer alibi wanted to hear. In a 9 year career, Britt had only 1 year that resembled 1st round performance (not to be confused with 9 forgettable weeks in Cleveland).
If he wasn't on NE's roster - we wouldn't even be having this discussion.
I was hoping that Britt would replace Pryor and if you go back and see all my comments supported Sashi for letting Pryor go. He wanted way too much money and we saw what happened to him last year in Washington. Everything looked good on paper with Britt bringing a 1000 yard season with him.
Britt is not a guy who comes in and makes Kizer better. He is not a Michael Jordan. If he makes the team this year which is looking more and more likely, Britt could be a good # 3 or even a # 2 WR.
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