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Why is Jackson Painting Himself Into a Corner?

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  • Might want to hold of roasting a guy who just lost his brother & Mother.

  • His ego is setting himself up to do what he says, or not do what he says?

    Well, you’re not wrong...

  • Who lost a brother and mother.

  • Who lost a brother and mother.

    @lbc-mike said:

    Who lost a brother and mother.

    Hue.

  • Tie rods ceiling isn't going any higher than it is.. If Baker out duels him preseason.. you have to consider speading up the process with Baker.. You don't draft him #1 to sit and do nothing... And Hue.. well Hue is a dip $hit!...

  • Tie rods ceiling isn't going any higher than it is.. If Baker out duels him preseason.. you have to consider speading up the process with Baker.. You don't draft him #1 to sit and do nothing... And Hue.. well Hue is a dip $hit!...

    @nickers said:

    Tie rods ceiling isn't going any higher than it is.. If Baker out duels him preseason.. you have to consider speading up the process with Baker.. You don't draft him #1 to sit and do nothing... And Hue.. well Hue is a dip $hit!...

    Exactly. Last year Hue was content to let a far less talented Kizer stink up the joint- so now, it's 180 time and play Taylor regardless. Sure, I have the opinion it's far better to have Baker sit and watch for at least 1\2 the season- OTOH, Wentz got thrown into the fire week one- and it didn't seem to phase him.  

    Sure, Taylor is in another league than Kessler and Hogan. But it was maddening to see Deshone get trotted out there last year week after week when you knew it was going to be yet another suck performance.  

  • Tie rods ceiling isn't going any higher than it is.. If Baker out duels him preseason.. you have to consider speading up the process with Baker.. You don't draft him #1 to sit and do nothing... And Hue.. well Hue is a dip $hit!...

    @nickers said:

    Tie rods ceiling isn't going any higher than it is.. If Baker out duels him preseason.. you have to consider speading up the process with Baker.. You don't draft him #1 to sit and do nothing... And Hue.. well Hue is a dip $hit!...

    Tyrod is on a 1 year deal. You have to throw all your support behind him and hope he plays lights out and deserves year 2. There has to be a team leader and the QB is usually it. You dont want half the team in camp Taylor and the other guys in camp Mayfield. Taylor has won NFL games and taken his team to the playoffs. Get behind him in this offense now run by a post season OC.

    What happens if Tyrod has a probowl season and the Browns go to the playoffs largely because of his play?

    Kizer looked great in camp and beat out everyone else. Everybody looks like a world beater in camp and then faces reality when the real bullets start flying in the regular season. Preseason is hor$ehit and winning every game makes you pre season champions.

  • @nickers said:

    Tie rods ceiling isn't going any higher than it is.. If Baker out duels him preseason.. you have to consider speading up the process with Baker.. You don't draft him #1 to sit and do nothing... And Hue.. well Hue is a dip $hit!...

    Tyrod is on a 1 year deal. You have to throw all your support behind him and hope he plays lights out and deserves year 2. There has to be a team leader and the QB is usually it. You dont want half the team in camp Taylor and the other guys in camp Mayfield. Taylor has won NFL games and taken his team to the playoffs. Get behind him in this offense now run by a post season OC.

    What happens if Tyrod has a probowl season and the Browns go to the playoffs largely because of his play?

    Kizer looked great in camp and beat out everyone else. Everybody looks like a world beater in camp and then faces reality when the real bullets start flying in the regular season. Preseason is hor$ehit and winning every game makes you pre season champions.

    @boo-fagley said:

    Tyrod is on a 1 year deal. You have to throw all your support behind him and hope he plays lights out and deserves year 2. There has to be a team leader and the QB is usually it. You dont want half the team in camp Taylor and the other guys in camp Mayfield. Taylor has won NFL games and taken his team to the playoffs. Get behind him in this offense now run by a post season OC.

    What happens if Tyrod has a probowl season and the Browns go to the playoffs largely because of his play?

    Kizer looked great in camp and beat out everyone else. Everybody looks like a world beater in camp and then faces reality when the real bullets start flying in the regular season. Preseason is hor$ehit and winning every game makes you pre season champions.

    Kizer looked like $hit to me in Camp.. I didn't see anything special about him.. He had slow eyes from the start.. Mayfield is on a whole other level intellectually and in efficiency.. Kizer was supposed to be a poor mans Cam Newton.. Russ Wilson And DeShaun Watson did't sit long..I think Baker can be even as good or better.. If he displays character and great play,.. You play him sooner rather than later.... You don't draft him with the mindset of keeping him on the bench.. When you're drafted #1.. You're drafted there for a reason.. TT is 7 years into his career.. Now granted.. We supposedly have a good WR room... And I'm sure that will be a positive.. But Taylor is NOT the kind of QB who can create his own plays... Taylor historically has all of his games under 300 yards..  That's just not very convincing to me.. He's a game manager.. Not a stud...

  • The man is a moron who doesn’t know his arse from his elbow. 

  • he's just saying tyrods the starter mo matter how good mayfield looks in camp.(and i agree with that) OF COURSE if tyrod shts the bed or gets hurt mayfields gonna see some reps. Hopefully theres another guy that can step in before tgat cause id rather mayfields first start be as far down the line as possible.

    i dont think hues saying ill deactivate mayfield before i let him on the field

  • if we wanted to draft a college qb tgat was nfl ready day one, we wouldnt have drafted mayfield. 

  • The man is a moron who doesn’t know his arse from his elbow. 

    @londonbrown said:

    The man is a moron who doesn’t know his arse from his elbow. 

    Don't be so hard on nickers, he's tries his best. 

  • if we wanted to draft a college qb tgat was nfl ready day one, we wouldnt have drafted mayfield. 

    @clevfan4life said:

    if we wanted to draft a college qb tgat was nfl ready day one, we wouldnt have drafted mayfield. 

    Actually he and Rosen were probalbly the most NFL-ready QBs of this draft. Mayfield had a Sheet-ton of college starts. Darnold really should have gone back for one more year. Allen should start hitting the broad side of the barn in 3-5 years. 

    I'd still love to see Mayfield sit for most/all his rookie season though. 

  • @boo-fagley said:

    Tyrod is on a 1 year deal. You have to throw all your support behind him and hope he plays lights out and deserves year 2. There has to be a team leader and the QB is usually it. You dont want half the team in camp Taylor and the other guys in camp Mayfield. Taylor has won NFL games and taken his team to the playoffs. Get behind him in this offense now run by a post season OC.

    What happens if Tyrod has a probowl season and the Browns go to the playoffs largely because of his play?

    Kizer looked great in camp and beat out everyone else. Everybody looks like a world beater in camp and then faces reality when the real bullets start flying in the regular season. Preseason is hor$ehit and winning every game makes you pre season champions.

    Kizer looked like $hit to me in Camp.. I didn't see anything special about him.. He had slow eyes from the start.. Mayfield is on a whole other level intellectually and in efficiency.. Kizer was supposed to be a poor mans Cam Newton.. Russ Wilson And DeShaun Watson did't sit long..I think Baker can be even as good or better.. If he displays character and great play,.. You play him sooner rather than later.... You don't draft him with the mindset of keeping him on the bench.. When you're drafted #1.. You're drafted there for a reason.. TT is 7 years into his career.. Now granted.. We supposedly have a good WR room... And I'm sure that will be a positive.. But Taylor is NOT the kind of QB who can create his own plays... Taylor historically has all of his games under 300 yards..  That's just not very convincing to me.. He's a game manager.. Not a stud...

    @nickers said:

    Kizer looked like $hit to me in Camp.. I didn't see anything special about him.. He had slow eyes from the start.. Mayfield is on a whole other level intellectually and in efficiency.. Kizer was supposed to be a poor mans Cam Newton.. Russ Wilson And DeShaun Watson did't sit long..I think Baker can be even as good or better.. If he displays character and great play,.. You play him sooner rather than later.... You don't draft him with the mindset of keeping him on the bench.. When you're drafted #1.. You're drafted there for a reason.. TT is 7 years into his career.. Now granted.. We supposedly have a good WR room... And I'm sure that will be a positive.. But Taylor is NOT the kind of QB who can create his own plays... Taylor historically has all of his games under 300 yards..  That's just not very convincing to me.. He's a game manager.. Not a stud...

    Jumping straight to Mayfield would be a mistake.

    Give Tyrod a shot in Haleys aggressive passing offense.

    Everybody wants to see Mayfield play. I do. All fans do. Mayfield is the ace in the hole when needed. Hue is playing his cards spot on this time and not betting the farm on a rookie who looks good in camp. Camp is bull $hit. Tyrod gives the Browns the best chance to win. His Buffalo passing stats are night and day different than the Browns offense last season. The Browns are going to beat the Steelers opening day and Tyrod is going to be part of the reason why.

  • @nickers said:

    Kizer looked like $hit to me in Camp.. I didn't see anything special about him.. He had slow eyes from the start.. Mayfield is on a whole other level intellectually and in efficiency.. Kizer was supposed to be a poor mans Cam Newton.. Russ Wilson And DeShaun Watson did't sit long..I think Baker can be even as good or better.. If he displays character and great play,.. You play him sooner rather than later.... You don't draft him with the mindset of keeping him on the bench.. When you're drafted #1.. You're drafted there for a reason.. TT is 7 years into his career.. Now granted.. We supposedly have a good WR room... And I'm sure that will be a positive.. But Taylor is NOT the kind of QB who can create his own plays... Taylor historically has all of his games under 300 yards..  That's just not very convincing to me.. He's a game manager.. Not a stud...

    Jumping straight to Mayfield would be a mistake.

    Give Tyrod a shot in Haleys aggressive passing offense.

    Everybody wants to see Mayfield play. I do. All fans do. Mayfield is the ace in the hole when needed. Hue is playing his cards spot on this time and not betting the farm on a rookie who looks good in camp. Camp is bull $hit. Tyrod gives the Browns the best chance to win. His Buffalo passing stats are night and day different than the Browns offense last season. The Browns are going to beat the Steelers opening day and Tyrod is going to be part of the reason why.

    @boo-fagley said:

    Jumping straight to Mayfield would be a mistake.

    Give Tyrod a shot in Haleys aggressive passing offense.

    Everybody wants to see Mayfield play. I do. All fans do. Mayfield is the ace in the hole when needed. Hue is playing his cards spot on this time and not betting the farm on a rookie who looks good in camp. Camp is bull $hit. Tyrod gives the Browns the best chance to win. His Buffalo passing stats are night and day different than the Browns offense last season. The Browns are going to beat the Steelers opening day and Tyrod is going to be part of the reason why.

    KCUF AY

  • @nickers said:

    Kizer looked like $hit to me in Camp.. I didn't see anything special about him.. He had slow eyes from the start.. Mayfield is on a whole other level intellectually and in efficiency.. Kizer was supposed to be a poor mans Cam Newton.. Russ Wilson And DeShaun Watson did't sit long..I think Baker can be even as good or better.. If he displays character and great play,.. You play him sooner rather than later.... You don't draft him with the mindset of keeping him on the bench.. When you're drafted #1.. You're drafted there for a reason.. TT is 7 years into his career.. Now granted.. We supposedly have a good WR room... And I'm sure that will be a positive.. But Taylor is NOT the kind of QB who can create his own plays... Taylor historically has all of his games under 300 yards..  That's just not very convincing to me.. He's a game manager.. Not a stud...

    Jumping straight to Mayfield would be a mistake.

    Give Tyrod a shot in Haleys aggressive passing offense.

    Everybody wants to see Mayfield play. I do. All fans do. Mayfield is the ace in the hole when needed. Hue is playing his cards spot on this time and not betting the farm on a rookie who looks good in camp. Camp is bull $hit. Tyrod gives the Browns the best chance to win. His Buffalo passing stats are night and day different than the Browns offense last season. The Browns are going to beat the Steelers opening day and Tyrod is going to be part of the reason why.

    @boo-fagley said:

    Jumping straight to Mayfield would be a mistake.

    Give Tyrod a shot in Haleys aggressive passing offense.

    Everybody wants to see Mayfield play. I do. All fans do. Mayfield is the ace in the hole when needed. Hue is playing his cards spot on this time and not betting the farm on a rookie who looks good in camp. Camp is bull $hit. Tyrod gives the Browns the best chance to win. His Buffalo passing stats are night and day different than the Browns offense last season. The Browns are going to beat the Steelers opening day and Tyrod is going to be part of the reason why.

    Your philosophy is just way too chicken Sheet...

  • @boo-fagley said:

    Jumping straight to Mayfield would be a mistake.

    Give Tyrod a shot in Haleys aggressive passing offense.

    Everybody wants to see Mayfield play. I do. All fans do. Mayfield is the ace in the hole when needed. Hue is playing his cards spot on this time and not betting the farm on a rookie who looks good in camp. Camp is bull $hit. Tyrod gives the Browns the best chance to win. His Buffalo passing stats are night and day different than the Browns offense last season. The Browns are going to beat the Steelers opening day and Tyrod is going to be part of the reason why.

    Your philosophy is just way too chicken Sheet...

    @nickers said:

    Your philosophy is just way too chicken Sheet...

    No its not.

    Its well thought out. Tyrod has training camps under his belt. He has started NFL regular season games and post season games. His 62% completion rate is nothing to ignore. I firmly believe that he will make guys like Coleman and Higgins better. 

  • @nickers said:

    Your philosophy is just way too chicken Sheet...

    No its not.

    Its well thought out. Tyrod has training camps under his belt. He has started NFL regular season games and post season games. His 62% completion rate is nothing to ignore. I firmly believe that he will make guys like Coleman and Higgins better. 

    @boo-fagley said:

    No its not.

    Its well thought out. Tyrod has training camps under his belt. He has started NFL regular season games and post season games. His 62% completion rate is nothing to ignore. I firmly believe that he will make guys like Coleman and Higgins better. 

    LOl your high...Coleman sucks...

  • @boo-fagley said:

    No its not.

    Its well thought out. Tyrod has training camps under his belt. He has started NFL regular season games and post season games. His 62% completion rate is nothing to ignore. I firmly believe that he will make guys like Coleman and Higgins better. 

    LOl your high...Coleman sucks...

    @nickers said:

    LOl your high...Coleman sucks...

    Broken hand 2 seasons in a row.

  • @nickers said:

    Tie rods ceiling isn't going any higher than it is.. If Baker out duels him preseason.. you have to consider speading up the process with Baker.. You don't draft him #1 to sit and do nothing... And Hue.. well Hue is a dip $hit!...

    Exactly. Last year Hue was content to let a far less talented Kizer stink up the joint- so now, it's 180 time and play Taylor regardless. Sure, I have the opinion it's far better to have Baker sit and watch for at least 1\2 the season- OTOH, Wentz got thrown into the fire week one- and it didn't seem to phase him.  

    Sure, Taylor is in another league than Kessler and Hogan. But it was maddening to see Deshone get trotted out there last year week after week when you knew it was going to be yet another suck performance.  

    @hoorta said:

    Sure, Taylor is in another league than Kessler and Hogan. But it was maddening to see Deshone get trotted out there last year week after week when you knew it was going to be yet another suck performance.  

    That was last year....with the worst QB room in the history of the NFL.  It didn't even matter which bum he played.  Might as well go with the young bum. 

    A year ago at this time I was saying how Kizer had a legit chance to win the starting job because the competition was so bad.  THIS year we at least have a fighting chance that the veteran starter can beat out the rookie draft pick.  That's what we should want.  We don't want to have to prop Mayfield up there on opening day against the Steelers.  That's turning up the pressure dial pretty high.  Let's let the season roll on for a while........and ease him into the position.   (of course, now that I've said that, Tyrod will trip and break his arm while exiting the tunnel on opening day)